CM Punk Breaks His Silence About AEW | Busted Open

Dave LaGreca and Bully Ray dissect the interview CM Punk did with Ariel Helwani on "The MMA Hour" where Punk did not hold back with his thoughts about his former company in AEW, his former co-workers in Jack Perry, and his former boss in Tony Khan.
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[@risingevil83]

Bubba is 100% right. Tony khan is an adult child with real life wrestling action figures. Daddy needs to teach him how to be a boss

[@nataliescott2261]

Guess that’s why he put a cco in place

[@redrick8900]

You zombies are just mad that AEW puts out the best wrestling out there.

[@Donster2]

​@@redrick8900😂😂😭🤦‍♂️ Man idk what's wrong with people like you, as a person that has watched many wrestling companies, it's obvious that Tony is a friend before boss. They have good wrestling yea but that alone does not put butts in seats and that's been showing for a while now

[@808Stone]

​@@redrick8900why would anyone be mad at AEW? Wrestling with no storyline is boring af

[@johnreyes1749]

@@redrick8900.🤣🤣🤣I’m laughing my ass off!!!!

[@lukeburton6632]

I had the pleasure of meeting Bully Ray in 2017 where we shared a locker room for WCPW. I was intimidated by his size and aura BUT once I introduced myself and shook his hand, that all washed away. He took the piss out of my wrestling gear (I was a heel wearing god awful gear) and spoke to both me & my partner like human beings. I asked him, if you have time sir, could you watch our match please? He politely declined with a genuine sincerity & and reasons as to why, apologised profusely and gave me & my partner 10-15 minutes of his time to talk about tag wrestling and little things that were beyond valuable to both of us. As far as professionals go, Bully is up there as one of the most professional wrestlers I’ve ever met. 👊🏼👊🏼

[@HaraldSilvaOficial]

Was That at The "Delete WCPW" show ?

[@mattshackleford2565]

Took 15 minutes with you but won't watch a 15 minute match. Yeah. Lol. Gonna call bullshit.

[@HaraldSilvaOficial]

@@mattshackleford2565 search for the WCPW tapings (was a recorded show) and tell me if You find him. I think Bully Ray appeard on 3 shows.

[@ericdorsey7481]

@@mattshackleford2565 he might have had 15 minutes at that moment but maybe he had to leave/do something else during their 15 minute match

[@b0nkert0ns7]

@@mattshackleford2565bullshit on what? This guy’s story or Bully’s reasoning? If it’s the latter, I highly doubt he would have sat there and talked to this dude for 15 minutes if he was bullshitting about not being able to watch the match. Even still. Let’s say he was lying…who gives a fuck? You’ve never made some shit up to get out of doing something you don’t want to do? We’re all human beings. These guys don’t owe you shit. At least he was nice enough to make this guy feel important instead of just being like “nah”.

[@kjghy96]

This isn't about the older generation hating on the newer generation, it's about younger wrestlers not wanting to take advice from the older veterans and it clearly shows in the attitude the second they're told what to do and what not to do. Punk was literally the only adult in the room.

[@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780]

PUNk was never an adult still isnt

[@t.styles2k202]

Hating on punk and the message went right over your head.. think before you comment sir

[@kev30631]

The dude given him his paycheck which is Tony khan should have put perry in check. There's a leadership structure and I am the head of it. My decision is final. If you can't or don't want to follow that then I am releasing you now . Good luck in your future endeavors

[@suranae]

That's kinda the point.e​@@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780

[@kjdee140]

@@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780 Says you.

[@rd_2113]

Punk just finally said what Cornette had revealed for months

[@thepostmans2145]

Years*

[@rd_2113]

@@thepostmans2145 I meant about everything that happened with Punk, but yeah you could say years

[@Willowposting]

The cornette haters that get butthurt over everything he says will still deny it

[@jtsra7]

That's true! Corny said from the very first year when he saw who was doing it that it would be All Friends Wrestling not knowing how to draw money. After Cody left, the entire show started to descend in every way revealing just how much a difference he made backstage and just how much Tony does Not know what he is doing.

[@angeltodorov5918]

Years***

[@Jeff_Pryce]

2:00 I’m glad Bully Ray said this. It’s not just Punk saying this. Jack Perry is apparently an entitled prick. Imagine being disrespectful to Bully Ray, a legend in the business who won titles everywhere he’s been, been a top act every place that matters. This kid, who’s never been anywhere and never done anything. He seems like he’s more trouble than he’s worth.

[@vicbasces]

Jack Perry is the son of a Hollywood star. I'm not surprised he's entitled.

[@theboxingboy7422]

Yeah fans at signings and stuff have said before he comes across quite cold and not very welcoming like he doesn't wanna be there etc.

[@mikegill3993]

​@@vicbascesHollywood star is a bit of a stretch 😂

[@chrisf2471]

@@vicbasceshis dad was actually a different type and a huge wrestling fan

[@Texansfan59]

​@@mikegill3993thats hollyweird for you

[@nodafy]

If you close your eyes it just sounds like Paul Heyman cutting a promo lmao

[@caderiesenberg9615]

Lol I came to the comments to see if anyone else was thinking the same thing

[@AlMoSiCe210]

I was about to comment the same thing

[@DamnWhoAsked]

Walked away from my phone after cutting on the podcast and damn near did a double-take after hearing Bully speak, lol. Sounds just like him.

[@8witAaron]

haha damn it, now i hear it a little...

[@JeanSonicka]

Holly shit, damn right he is.

[@marvj8255]

Bully sounds like Paul heyman

[@alappara_kelappurom778]

yes man 🤣

[@jihadx5307]

I’ve been saying this for years. Bubba definitely bit Heyman’s promo style.

[@MrKingkz]

​@@jihadx5307don't blame him Paul is one of the best

[@docsnatch9039]

I was going to say the same!! They almost got the same voice, tone etc

[@Evolution954]

They're both from New York lol that accent.

[@doublez_]

We need the whole show on KZbin and Spotify please

[@MikeyD727]

Agreed . but I doubt SiriusXM would allow it. For the ppl who say they subscribe just for busted open and they would prob loose subscribers if they can go to KZbin for the full show with video

[@mohamadsorya6718]

Why?

[@doublez_]

@@MikeyD727 how much is Sirius?

[@HomerTheBraves44]

And podcasts

[@varunaX]

pay for it on sirius

[@Kyle38A]

I think that CM Punk was speaking 100% fact's about Tony Khan and AEW. And I agree with everything that Bubba was saying.

[@trentdunn6610]

Bubba Ray and D-Von were a huge part of my make a wish back in TNA in 2010. There is not a nicer dude on the planet. Gracious, kind, and caring, not only for me, but also making sure my parents and my sister felt involved in the wrestling show as well.

[@callofdoody21]

as a cancer survivor and someone who had a make a wish about 20 years ago, no matter the context I love hearing this! glad you’re doing well :)

[@neonmancer9945]

Bubba is so goddamn right This guy's knowledge about the industry is something else. Cause he has been in everywhere, he worked under a lot of people.

[@dimaztri19]

Bully: "You can't buy the FORCE" facts you gotta be a jedi

[@jonathansalgado3013]

Jack Perry is a Jobber with a main event attitude 🤣🤣🤣

[@nickchivers9029]

Nah he's got what he thinks is a main event attitude

[@basquiatofconvos4655]

Jack Perry would 100% be a jobber in NXT/WWE....He thinks because everyone loved his dad that He is good and can't do know wrong....He is wrong

[@kev30631]

Jack perry is talented to be fair. His attitude is the issue.

[@DeeBatch]

No he can go in the ring be honest. He has a lot of growing up to do obviously

[@EliasRoy]

😂😂😂

[@JoyStickJester_]

Finally a podcast that actually gives their true option about what Punk said. All these other marks want to say Punk was the problem in AeW.

[@ItApproaches]

option?

[@jimcornette4492]

JD saying the same as bubba

[@justinschmidt4335]

Can honestly not wait for Cornys review of that interview

[@gmcuttin1727]

He was the problem, he had problems with over 20 people there.

[@dxtremecaliber]

Punk is a asshole and hes aware of it but Punk is the right one here.

[@jasean21]

I've heard Bully and Eric B, now im just waiting on Jim Cornette... 😂

[@arkapointer]

That's exactly my feeling 🤣🤣

[@brianpughsley8680]

I can’t wait 😊

[@brandonmaddox4862]

Just heard it, it was gold

[@darrenwilliams8016]

He’s pod cast was up this morning

[@badladyami]

Did NOT disappoint.

[@royalty843]

"I work with fuckin children" Pepsi Phil

[@msund9352]

tell me when he's tellin lies

[@redrick8900]

@@msund9352 Whenever he opens his sociopath mouth.

[@Tumorcoach]

@@redrick8900that’s just what smooth 🧠 say. When they are alleged to facts he says

[@braindeadrichard]

@@redrick8900bro I see you replying to everyone’s comments. Stop D riding AEW so hard. It’s not that serious. Besides the fact that AEW is a cesspool of children.

[@ExpressDunlop]

your alone in every post being a cult loser, to get smarter.@@redrick8900

[@adamprice9209]

Be the boss or hire someone who will be. It doesn't matter if it's a lemonade stand or AEW.

[@mariopadilla1445]

Yes I respect this

[@rickyrosay33977]

That's my biggest problem with AEW TK doesn't act like a boss The Bucks and Omega act more like the bosses while TK writes the checks like TK, "it's your company not theirs" the EVPs can't be the bosses

[@rickyrosay33977]

Say what you will about vince now at least he knew how to keep his talent under control

[@jamalwalker]

​@@rickyrosay33977 Vince doesn't let the talent screw him he screws them lol

[@rickyrosay33977]

@@jamalwalker true lol

[@MrHan14]

The Ariel Helwani interview with CM Punk was definitely a eulogy for Jack Perry.

[@stevenmiller7043]

I’d like to think so but the AEW tribals that I’ve seen on other platforms are basically calling Punk a liar, despite in the past never being found to be untruthful about anything.

[@badladyami]

@@stevenmiller7043 They're seething like Trumpsters.

[@stevenmiller7043]

@@badladyami I wouldn’t bring politics into this. Especially with how bad Biden has been. Not a Trump supporter myself but Biden’s been horrible

[@dwaynewright9981]

@@stevenmiller7043I hate bringing politics in it too but the denial is denial and I’ve always felt weird about AEW tribalism. The product mid at best.

[@stevenmiller7043]

@@dwaynewright9981 I agree. They have stuff that is great ie: Swerve, MJF, Samoa Joe and FTR. But they all act like AEW has and will not do any wrong.

[@thisjourneycalledlife5957]

Bully saying “ You can’t buy the force” 👏🏽👏🏽 he’s a genius!

[@cwell510]

Bubba is speaking straight FACTS! If you're the boss of a multi-million dollar company, you can't be "buddy-buddy" with the talent, it doesn't work.

[@metalcoffie]

"You can't give wrestlers power over other wrestlers"....agreed, tell that to the EVPs.

[@ItApproaches]

It worked with Undertaker.

[@heavymetalsalsa9003]

​@ItApproaches he wasnt an evp, just a good role model.

[@ItApproaches]

@@heavymetalsalsa9003 I was saying Undertaker had sway over other wrestlers. He could walk up to a wrestler and put them in their place. They respected him.

[@heavymetalsalsa9003]

@@ItApproaches I agree. The bucks and omega don't have the same respect

[@celokorver3698]

@@ItApproachesTaker was like the team captain but knew he wasn’t the coach

[@ohb71303]

Don’t know Bully personally, didn’t expect him to know/use Jedi/Padawan. But agree with the “can’t be friends with the talent.” Should be business in general. Boss is in it for the $.

[@cesarpac3723]

Nah TK is there to make friends, I’m so done with AEW

[@sickboy703]

Cornette nailed this whole thing over a year ago. The interview just confirm it.

[@justmarcus33]

watching CM Punk and Orton kinda reviewing their WM match I realized CM punk is right, bully ray is right, uhm jim cornet is right

[@thepeoplesartist2863]

Bully Rays Star Wars perspective is spot on

[@tylerblair318]

I love AEW but there are humongous fucking problems with a couple of massive things. 1. Tony Khan needs to start asserting himself as THE BOSS. He signs the fucking checks, he needs to be the final say on everything. 2. The Bucks (Omega seems fine on all accounts) need to quit with their petty bullshit. It's annoying, it doesn't help with signing talent, it is vastly annoying. If that means they need to relinquish the EVP slot that's fine. 3. The signing of wrestlers. If you don't have a plan for them, why the fuck are you signing them? I love a guy like Brian Keith, but what the fuck has he been doing? What about Jay Lethal? Rush? These guys were literally in that tournament and they've been doing jack shit. 4. When the TV deal comes in again, it should be Collision and Dynamite and that's it. Dynamite should be AEW and AEW talent, Collision should be Ring of Honor Collision. There's too much talent, do a brand split. They should have done it when they started Collision and made Punk the ROH champion. Put your veterans and young talent on ROH and your established guys in the middle of their peak on AEW Dynamite. 5. You need way more fucking people working creative and being producers and having final say on stuff. If Malenko or Jerry Lynn tell you to do something, you are fucking doing it. 6. Please get a better social media team. Im so tired of seeing KZbin videos misspelled or the wrong title for a video. It's amateur af. 7. Do video packages that tell an average audience who the fuck some of these people you sign are. The average person just watching doesn't know who some of these people are.

[@johnboydojo]

Tony needs a booker. Simple as that. Guy couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

[@PortalMaster2112]

You have done more analysis than anyone at AEW.

[@rickyrosay33977]

I agree with number 1 Say what you will about vince now at least he kept his talent under control

[@frankf684]

Tony doesn’t want to be a boss he wants them to be his friends. He signs wrestlers because he is collecting them like action figures This isn’t about making money for him it’s about playing.more power to him but AEW isn’t gonna get any better

[@ninjanunch2769]

Agree with everything you said I share a lot of the same opinions. The bucks are so insufferable. They were NWO marks growing up and they run shit like that. Dirt sheets, shit stirring, backstabbing smug lil pricks. Jack Perry is just like that and is friends with them. TK has no balls just a rich dude with daddies money and let's the inmates run the asylum and it's proven to not work.

[@wonipowa7542]

Jack Perry grew up in Hollywood with a rich famous dad, and on top of that is in AEW because of the Bucks, so he's incredibly disrespectful. I can't blame Punk really...

[@redrick8900]

Perry has no reason to respect Punk.

[@Florida_Cracker]

​@@redrick8900please extrapolate

[@kev30631]

Jack perry could be a lower middle class raised arrogant prick. I don't think it can always be blamed on Rich and famous parents. We all want to be rich and famous. That's not be hypocritical.

[@bigpablo673]

​@@redrick8900except for the fact that punk was the reason aew was making money lol

[@Jeff_Pryce]

@@redrick8900 Did he also have no reason to respect Tony Schiavone, a legend who has been in the business longer than Perry has been alive? Or the producers? Or the dr. warning him that using real glass was going to cause a serious injury? No, enough. Perry is a spoiled little prick and he needs to be humbled.

[@bryanmdwyer]

If Tony Kahn cared about accountability, he should have stripped the Bucks of their EVP titles after this whole Punk situation

[@Jeff_Pryce]

He should have, but he was too weak. According to the reports from about a year ago, the bucks and their friends all threatened to leave maybe for WWE when their contract was coming up and Tony just caved and gave them whatever they wanted.

[@foxvalleybandvids]

​@Jeff_Pryce Hardly Boyz (Bucks) wouldn't survive in the Fed because HHH doesn't allow for 30 second setups for 3 second spots

[@Jeff_Pryce]

@@foxvalleybandvids😂 No way. They wouldn’t survive 6 months before they’d be demoted to NXT. And then released.

[@dcatura1]

Tony Khan could manage his way out of a wet paper bag on a windy, rainy day… How the hell do you expect him to manage the multiple personalities involved in a wrestling company. AEW is Tony Khan’s dream play room with real life wrestling action figures. AEW IS NOT A BUSINESS OR AN ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY. It is a “plaything” for a billionaire.

[@cesarpac3723]

He should’ve fired them

[@PsyOpChampion]

This is the only channel other than Cornette that I really wanted to hear on this. Specifically Bully. Punk pretty much confirmed everything Jim and Last said about his situation along with AEW and the EVPs in general. According to them the issues with the Elite basically cosplaying as the Kliq go back to the California independent scene.

[@wonipowa7542]

I've heard (people can choose to believe me or not) that these guys have been passive aggressive and if you weren't part of their little clique, they would find ways to politic you off of local indie shows in CA. I also heard, that Cody is the one who fronted the starting money for BTE (Being the Elite) and yet the Bucks tried to downplay his influence/role in AEW.

[@johnthompson6689]

@@wonipowa7542Makes complete sense.

[@PsyOpChampion]

@@wonipowa7542 That lines up precisely. Not a fan of those guys or AEW’s product too much but I saw money if they could’ve just done business with Punk after Brawl Out.

[@ExpressDunlop]

Bischoff great too, there's others too but it varies.

[@PHENOMENALPHO]

I listen to konnan since AAA is a partner of aew. So he would have inside information.

[@HarleyQuinnGoon]

"The boys should never be in charge of the boys" this has been my thought about AEW since day one when it was announced that Omega, Rhodes, & the Bucks were EVPs. Historically it's never worked & AEW proving that it's no different

[@OceanbornAngel]

Heck, they're still having issues with getting along even without Punk there.

[@badladyami]

THIS. The variable has been removed, yet the problem still exists.

[@skeletonmandiecastcollector]

Very cool podcast episodes as always 🔥🤘🏻💀🤘🏻🔥. Bully Ray and Paul Heyman sound so similar when it comes to communicating.

[@mikawhofan]

It's the New Yorker in them. We have a certain way of communicating

[@theboxingboy7422]

The whole aew thing was basically summed up when punk told Tony to handle things and Tony said 'what do you want me to do' and Punk said 'be the boss' and thats the problem. Tony just wants to book matches and hang round the wrestler friends he brought. But when things need resolving he doesnt have a clue and he can't deal with it and thats why shit escalated.

[@Xeryoc]

And thats just bad leadership, Tony wants to be a booker fine then step down and hire someone to actually manage the company while still being owner/wannabe booker

[@joshhilliard6188]

You mean the wrestler's he bought!! Cuz that's why they are around him!!

[@iTsGonzo]

💯💯💯💯

[@gmcuttin1727]

"Hey Tony, i know we are live on a massive stadium show, the biggest we have ever done, and you're in the middle of producing it but can you go talk to Jack, he hurt my feelings" - CM Punk

[@bigpablo673]

Did you listen to the interview lmao they approached punk to handle it because Tony is too soft and doesn't want to make his friends upset ​@@gmcuttin1727

[@michaeljames6958]

Meet Bubba at Starrcast in Nashville a few years ago, although I can understand the intimidating vibe I will say that Bubba was a complete gentleman. Friendly to everyone. Glad to have meet him. Love the show btw 💪🏼

[@songoten7600I]

Bully, thank you for the memories. Bubba and Devon you were my absolute favorite growing up... GET THAT TABLE❤

[@chrishenze5284]

The two shows were like night and day. Dynamite was like an indie show, and Collison was great pro wrestling. It was literally one company having the best of both worlds. I really enjoyed collision with Punk in charge

[@dantecoleman9561]

Bubba seriously ain't lying about the business, Tony Khan needs to seriously learn how to be a more effective boss when it comes to his product

[@D4NK1]

If I listened to audio of paul heyman talking to bubba I wouldnt be able to tell the difference. Same cadence, same voice, structure their arguments the same way.

[@mikawhofan]

It's the New Yorker in them.

[@rav19862]

I have never loved listening to a wrestlers perspective on all things wrestling than when im listening to Bully!

[@L3ghair]

I don’t see how you can watch that Ariel Helwani interview and honestly think that Punk was the issue in AEW.

[@jakobbenjamin2098]

Finally good to hear the rest of the wrestling podcasters catching up to what Cornette's been saying for years!

[@bryceleblanc3548]

Sometimes cults are right lol...

[@viperrecords3288]

Anybody who’s not a mark for AEW knows Punk wasn’t lying. And I’m pissed that Meltzer and Young FUCKS did a smear campaign to say it was all Punks fault.

[@ThePlug_115]

sounds like a wwe slave

[@Tuxedoj]

Ok guy, aew has a lot to fix but cm punk is toxic as well

[@viperrecords3288]

@@Tuxedoj No. it’s the elite who’s toxic keep defending them. The mental gymnastics is Olympic level

[@Jeff_Pryce]

@@Tuxedoj If he’s so toxic, why has most in WWE had positive praise for him since he’s been back? Better yet, why did he get such positive reviews from people in AEW who weren’t in the Elite’s little camp? Sting, Mark Henry, FTR, Jade Cargill, Thunder Rosa, Adam Cole, House of Black, Darby Allin, Ricky Starks, the list goes on and on. Punk wanted to make it a thriving business, and the Bucks and their buddies wanted an easy paycheck and to play with their friends. That was never more clear than when Collision first launched. But hey, if they want a half-empty clubhouse where they worry more about getting fake stars from some old mark and his goofy sidekick on a podcast than making money, more power to them. 😂

[@MemfoTees]

I popped for "AEW is just ECW with money"! Less is More!

[@pddlopes7064]

and with a less talented booker in AEW

[@MemfoTees]

@@pddlopes7064 yep, buddy needs to hire someone who knows how to book!

[@y3ee3e]

​@@pddlopes7064better talent though

[@Jeff_Pryce]

@@y3ee3e Doesn’t matter. Talent without good direction is doomed to fail.

[@AlMoSiCe210]

​@Jeff_Pryce you sure af aint wrong

[@datbul]

Please start uploading the longer segments you post on Spotify. Spotify currently has a 40 minute version of this episode up

[@rarebreedsamTV28]

No one has that much time it's too long

[@robdurfee6861]

@@rarebreedsamTV28people listen to this stuff at work, that’s good content to pass the time

[@KareemHarper]

They will always post the longer content to the platform where they earn the most and rightfully so. They use this for clips, and it is a sound business strategy given KZbin's payouts. We also haven't seen their metrics, and it would make more sense they get 100% completion rates with shorter clips on youtube vs. longer clips on Spotify. They have their reasons.

[@datbul]

@@KareemHarper great points. this makes sense.

[@orestodomundo6652]

@@rarebreedsamTV28😂

[@gotobed7441]

Disagree on AJ, he spent time around Christian, Flair and extended programmes with Angle, he learnt how to work in TNA, refined it around the indies and NJPW.. came in as a true pro in WWE and got over with the office Vs Roman Reigns matches

[@theepicclassic]

Its frightening how much Bubba Ray (Bully Ray) sounds like Paul Heyman.

[@mattheweble5550]

I was going to say this, haha

[@blaircrocker9845]

Damn you're not kidding.

[@robintst]

That's that New York accent and inflection.

[@Oldschool1943]

aka Buh Buh Ray Dudley

[@kokocaptainqc]

been thinking that since early 2000s

[@ViainuTV]

Really enjoy the podcast! Thank you for your contributions to the wrestling space!

[@DannyBoy426]

“There wasn’t really an incident because if there was an incident, Jack Perry, wouldn’t be around anymore 😃” 😂😂😂😂

[@wwedxecw]

Lmaoooooo I was cracking up when I heard it earlier too 😂😂😂😂😂

[@hotman718]

Bubba was going to murder bro

[@Colbyy27]

Lmfao that shit took me out almost spit out my cupcake

[@KnightofSpear7101]

I cannot unhear it now and I hate it 😂😂😂

[@jamesbyersmusic]

And that made LoMonaco sound like a bigger child than anyone.

[@rbaman5]

"You can't but the force!" Great line Bully Ray!

[@nelson5850]

what is name of the mic that Bubba is using and where can I get that one

[@dwaynebyron9614]

Another great segment. It may just be my phone, but Dave's face looks red like Brother Love. 😄

[@The_Deal]

The fact that there was a meeting, and the Elite shot it down, its also a testament of TK not handling the situation. Punk asked TK to handle problems, and he folded, and chose not to address it.

[@GenGamesUniverse]

The meeting was a day before All In at Wembley, and all three including Tony Khan were supposed to have met somewhere, but it turned out to be a prank with the three against Punk. IF that meeting had happened, I guaran-damn-tee that Tony wouldn't have acted as a mediator. He'd have gone onto the Bucks camp straight away!

[@thelastdayzrecords2640]

Love this show keep it up guys much love 😊❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@jasonaustin1038]

Bully's last run in Impact last year was awesome. Thanks Bully!

[@PricefieldPunk]

Like Punk said it's the people Jack Perry knows in AEW. All the people in power are like Jack, so Jack could be disrespectful and nothing was gonna be done about it, Tony wasn't gonna do anything about it. Back in WWE when a young guy for example Daniel Puder disrespected Kurt Angle on live TV. Eddie, Chris, and Hardcore Holly took care of it.

[@aoisora1445]

Daniel Puder wanted to make a name for himself at the expense of the business...

[@samnabawy2731]

I'd love to see a shoot cage match between the Bucks and APA

[@johnthompson6689]

It'd be a crime scene. Sending the boys home in body bags.

[@kshinokevin]

The Young Bucks (Generation Me) = the Public Enemy (Rocco Rock & Johnny Grunge)

[@Dr_V_von_Doom]

DAMN

[@DougUnfunny]

Bully vs Jack, put him thru a table Bully.

[@marvinleong5902]

Real Wood, cry you a f**king table - Bully to JB

[@synthesizedpdx]

First clip I've ever seen of this show. Instant subscribe.

[@runeplate123]

Bubba should definitely be a writer of story teller in WWE

[@Wo0dY9621]

Just became a mark for Bubba. 1000% agree with his statements regarding Jack Perry and Tony Khan’s inability to run a professional locker room for pro wrestlers.

[@Skowl3883]

The most frustrating thing about the Collision show is Punk didnt want it. He told Tony he wanted out and Tony wasnt having any of it so gave him the show, which lead to the Jack Perry incident which ultimately ended with Punk walking anyway. All because TONY COULDNT DO HIS DAMN JOB!!!! I would love if AEW were a competent company run by competent management but its not and for that alone, I care not if it ultimately fails.

[@mariopadilla1445]

This was a great segment, I especially like the conversation of the DDT cause I agree completely on the bastardizing of moves

[@Masky5150]

The second Bully mentioned the bastardisation of movies the DDT immediately came to my mind. And the superkick of course. Usually kick outs during devastating moves like these were saved for big events like WrestleMania. But now it's become a common theme for any and all finishing moves to be kicked out of during the Grandest Stage of Them All. Just you wait and see as WrestleMania 40 is upon us.

[@kailindeman4531]

“You can’t buy the force.”-Bully Ray legendary quote.

[@DaReaIJesus]

Tell that to Disney 💀💀

[@JordanODash]

​@@DaReaIJesus🙄🙄🙄 stop with the disney hate

[@seabicuit7247]

I recall one of the Gunns tweeted that if they dressed with the Bucks and partied with TK like Perry did, maybe they’d be on tv. If everything Punk said is accurate about him and seeing as Bully had a similar interaction. Perry is getting away with 95-98 HBK behavior but is not a main event talent. That is baffling.

[@gamingdoppelganger1414]

I agree with Billy Ray about wrestler’s trying to be buddy buddy with the office because as soon as Vince McMahon made a statement about his favorite football team damn, if the following week on RAW there wasn’t people backstage wearing that teams T-shirts

[@werewolfy4]

The AJ angle was crazy, he's so right.

[@kob456]

He's not right on that. AJ by 2008 slowed down significantly. During AJ's time in TNA, there were enough veterans and established acts from WWE, WCW, and ECW that came into TNA to work with AJ. AJ by 2010 already understood the WWE and inring psychology style. AJ wretled Kurt Angle and RVD literally on a weekly basis. He knew how to incorporate inring psychology and to slow it down by rubbing elbows with so many of the established guys he worked with in TNA.

[@nathanrodriguez914nr]

The message Punk was trying to get across wasn't that nobody wanted him around. It was certain people, who had official power within the company, and their friends, didnt want him around. The second show was to separate Punk and his friends from the Elite and their friends.

[@GenGamesUniverse]

This is exactly what the message was 1000%, it's like I said, the all out brawl was going to happen one way or another and it wasn't a case of if, it was a case of when.

[@nathanrodriguez914nr]

Also, Bully's point about "Punk shouldn't have been in charge of the boys, because he's one of the boys." Did we forget The Young Bucks and Kenny Omega are Executive Vice Presidents of AEW? Or Bryan Danielson is a member of the Discipline Committee?

[@guillemf08]

YESSS This is my favourite wrestling podcast. Keep it up boys!

[@aquariums5154]

Best spot I’ve seen in a long time was La knight vs AJ styles when the mats were pulled up on the floor. It was old school and had not been done in forever.

[@mbryanf]

I love what Dave said about trying to work things out if a co-worker is unhappy. He would not want someone to just straight up leave after a conflict. The “what can can we do to work this out” approach is a sign that you have a good boss. Respect to you Mr LaGrecca.

[@knowur10sand18s]

Bully isn't even a Punk fan but this makes Punk look based AF

[@GenGamesUniverse]

He respects CM Punk though, that's the whole thing about it, he knows how much of a smug prick Jack Perry is.

[@kokocaptainqc]

punk is kinda like me meaning everywhere we go we make ennemies because if something or someone is dumb we say it no matter who it is and no one likes to have the truth shot in their face when its a negative truth....i have walked out on the spot of more than half the jobs i had in my life and usually with the tought 'im not their doormat and 'theyre literally unable to run this''

[@DrPowerBoy]

Yo fa real no cap

[@Rucker1980]

YOU CAN'T BUY THE FORCE! Bully is spittin

[@robertcornelius3514]

Just you two guys make this podcast perfect.

[@slayerBO2EPC]

Gotta love hearing Bubba talk about wrestling, the man really has a great mind for it

[@Mikeh2077]

“Jack Perry sucks. He went out to wrestle dressed as a Tarzan wannabe but instead made himself look like a jackass to match his real life personality.”

[@chaddriggers5120]

Speak on it Bully!!

[@KD_SWAGGER]

I saw a thumbnail of Bully Ray and CM Punk in the title so I clicked right away.

[@usmctanker7729]

Totally agree with Bully Ray his views on management of a company & dealing with talent/upper managements personnel. He is spot on about how the ring psychology, moves timing etc all make or break a wrestler. Age & experience shows time & time again. Thanks for all the great years of entertainment Bully Ray !!!

[@ThatGuyOnYoutube2]

Orton vs Omega. Yes please!

[@LL-rn2xp]

💯Agree with Bully Ray

[@AnthonyAscue]

You can’t buy the force is a hell of a quote / analogy

[@user-dt6hb7kb6u]

Correct 💯 Percent Bully. Same thing in almost any Work place. If the boss starts befriending an employee, that creates some conflicts of interest.

[@antoinettelovejoy]

Bully Ray is the best 💯

[@Rayla840]

For some reason, old school wrestlers always want to point at the DDT when talking about finishers that shouldn't be kicked out of. The only guy who used it as a definitive finisher for the majority of his career was Jake. A move is only a finisher to the person who uses it as one. Hogan used a leg drop. That doesn't mean no one should ever kick out after a leg drop.

[@Thinkcreep]

It’s a move that drives the top of your head into the mat… hard. It should be lights out move. Not really comparable to the leg drop.

[@haven7617]

multiple wrestlers use the ddt as a finisher jon moxley, alexa bliss, edge, michael hayes

[@GenGamesUniverse]

It's like the Tombstone Piledriver. You NEVER saw anyone kick out of that, or the "Last Ride" from Undertaker. Then Wrestlemania 25 and 26 happened, and look what happened - Shawn kicked out more than his fair share.

[@undertakernumberone1]

​​@@GenGamesUniverseKane kicked out of the Tombstone. I think so did some others during the AE. Edge might have as well... and the Last Ride was kicked out of when it transitioned into Signature

[@undertakernumberone1]

​@@haven7617Arn Anderson

[@RemnantSRT440]

Man listening to Bubba/Bully Ray talking about the intricacies of booking wrestling and wrestling itself so so fascinating to me. I 110% agree with him on bookers needing to find and tow the line between dealing with business and talent/friendship relationships. I mean Tony Khan could of learned a lot from Dixie Carter. Oh and the move set I totally agree. Less is more. I think the challenge to is also competing for people short attention span. Any Props Bubba/Bully! Wish you much success!

[@xbobtheslobx]

I love Bubbas Star Wars analogy. Its spot on

[@STEPHENisSTEPHEN]

Tony should honestly hire a GM, hell it could even be Big Show

[@dcatura1]

Tony Khan best chance at putting a successful wrestling company together, would be to hire OVW owner, Al Snow, to be AEW’s head honcho.

[@STEPHENisSTEPHEN]

@@dcatura1 Al Snow burying aew every week i doubt he wants it

[@pedrog747]

Scott Damore

[@davidpborrego]

Bubba Ray can do a perfect Paul Heyman impersonation

[@mikawhofan]

It's the New Yorker in them.

[@levisamom5069]

Fuck now i can't unhear how much he sounds like paul heymam

[@Dre.2397]

Well, they both from New York that’s why they sound alike 😂💯

[@Shisui5752]

2:00 for a monent, I thought that way Paul Heyman 😂

[@durivage1]

Wow, loved listening to Mr Dudley. Great passion and perspective. He's pretty much seen and done it all.

[@adrianpheiffer9960]

Tony Khan running AEW and doing all the booking is the equivalent to if he was the Head coach and GM of the Jaguars.

[@kev30631]

If he was proven to be good at it. I have no problem with him doing both. The problem is tony isn't good at it. This is tony and his dad's billions to spend. There is no scenario where it would be different. The best you could hope for is a compromise and them bringing in creative writers to (help) them. Because they will never, ever turn it completely over

[@MPCuse]

Tony really is a lot like his father, Shad Khan. From all accounts, Shad's a kind man but he doesn't put his foot down when the situation demands it. Take the Urban Meyer situation with the Jaguars. The fact that it was allowed to fester as long as it did is just bad leadership. It damn near ruined Trevor Lawrence's career.

[@raymondpalmer6208]

I use the impaler DDT/ glorious DDT on my custom wrestler, always thought the move was devastating and cool to use a finisher

[@jonahjustice]

Bully is a blast to listen to. Just straightforward and to the point.

[@QCS_AdamCole]

Bubba, you're not intimidating till you're pushed into that position. You go out of your way to pay it forward, your knowledge of the business, & anyone who shits on that deserves what they get for flipping your switch. Shared locker rooms with legends like Manny & Rock & Roll & it always blew my mind seeing these young boys act like they're anything. I spoke to the legends before the rest of the boys & always did my best to sit under the learning trees, absorbing & using the advice given to me. The absolute disrespect infuriates me. To end my rant on a positive note. Thank you for paving the path I walked on & for, even after having to retire from a bad injury, the knowledge I'm STILL absorbing to this day from you & the other legends who have podcasts & do shoots.

[@lancea1202]

We could all agree to disagree. You can call Punk and Bubba/Bully Ray a prick. But if you were raised right to respect your elders and shake their hand when they introduce themselves, you would know what the real problem is. Punk is right. He is an adult in a locker room with children on it. Love or hate Phil, he's just telling the truth. Grown ups really hate disrespect.

[@GenGamesUniverse]

That's the thing what people don't realize, Phil knows he's an arrogant prick, but he doesn't care. Same goes for Bubba/Bully Ray, it's like the incident he had at ROH that time with a fan who tried to attack his girl and didn't go off on him but just took him to the back and got him to apologize and explained that she's only doing what she needs to do as she was a heel.

[@808Stone]

I could listen to Bubba talk about wrestling every day

[@mixedmartialnutrition1746]

some good knowledge from Bully Ray gotta hear more of his stuff

[@chelseygunderson901]

Bully Ray deserves respect!!! Plain and simple. There’s no excuses to it. Jack Perry why did you do that sir??? Seriously it saddens me when young wrestlers think oh I’ll just bully the heck out of a HOF wrestler no matter who it is. I am emotional about this. Jack Perry guess who paved the way for you??? Wrestlers who have been in the wrestling business for years. They paved the way for you Jack Perry and yet you don’t understand how to grow up??? That’s sad Jack Perry. Seriously it is. I can’t say it any better. That’s how I feel about this situation.

[@hottytoddybuf]

Bryan Danielson is director of discipline which shows you how Tony doesn’t have the guts to do it himself

[@GenGamesUniverse]

what makes me laugh, is that IF Punk did indeed quit, which I'm inclined to believe him, why did they need to say "Danielson made the decision to fire Punk".

[@levisamom5069]

​@@GenGamesUniversei mean punk and Bryan are friends so maybe they worked the contract stuff out since Bryan seems to have some power over that and let punk out

[@apostolostvable]

@@GenGamesUniverse Punk probably quit but Tony came out with that "feared for my life" garbage to avoid any lawsuit, didn't even put a non-compete clause on Punk's way out, and did nothing to address the EVP/Elite/Perry nonsense, split the roster randomly on two shows because he couldn't get all the parties in the room to coincide and work. Dude is an overgrown, ADD riddled manchild.

[@zeromagnum2811]

Khan saying he was scared for his life over the Punk thing with Perry shows the mans mentality. He's a pampered manchild with a lot of money that wants to be everyones friend. And that incident showed he lacks experience in handling grown ass men if he can't manage to squash things like that before they got that far. And if it escalated quick, deal with it swiftly and lay down the law to all involved. All this made it evident its not in him. Plus he is a mark and a social media shitposter made evident with his twitter rants. Nobody has hurt AEW more than Tony Khan

[@petershortland478]

​@@apostolostvable guy is basically promoter with alot of money nothing more