How Honda Is Trying To Be Cool Again

[@KNRS927]

I love Hondas in general. The issue is that they’ve become so obsessed with simplifying, cost cutting, and making things so bland that it’s sort of lost the DNA of past Hondas. Not to mention they’re the most expensive of the mainstream brands with fewer discounts, and in some cars, they skimp on features that every competitor offers. They’ve sort of lost that fun and sporty character of past Hondas, and become expensive and cheap.

[@mrnobodymobile]

I think the boom of having the most modern technological cabins has really hurt Honda as all they used to worry about is engines and reliability now so many factors are coming through they for some reason were blind folded too

[@Mr99Burns]

They are relatively small car company relative to a giant like Toyota. Can’t really compete on The same level Honda corporation is involved in to many things.

[@DroneStrike1776]

It's why I went with Mazda. They're more reliable and more fun to drive. Don't get caught with a bad 1.5L turbo Honda engine or their faulty automatic transmission. J35 engines are chewing up bearings. Honda loves their vanilla CVT. I miss my old 2000 Civic Si, that was when Honda knew how to make fun cars.

[@KamBar2020]

Slava TOYOTA 😎 Scotty Kilmer

[@KNRS927]

@ I love the Honda hybrids but they’re just so expensive relative to their competitors. I remember looking at a civic hybrid hatchback for my parents and we ended up going Camry XLE and there was hardly any daylight in price between the XLE Camry and civic hybrid hatchback, as we got some discounts while the Honda dealers just wouldn’t budge near me. It’s funny how a compact sedan hybrid gets so close to a hybrid mid size sedan in price and it’s not top trim compact for base mid-size price, it’s underequipped top trim compact for super or nicely equipped middle or slightly above middle tim midsize sedan price.

[@WeWatchShortShorts]

probably unpopular opinion... I'd rather buy a car built in Japan than the U.S. the majority of Hondas in the U.S. now are built in the u.s. ... the quality shows

[@notforgotten3685]

Exactly. What’s the point of bringing manufacturing back to America if they’re gonna churn out cheaply made garbage at a premium price?

[@Agerian7]

The Canadian made ones are good

[@deet4895]

I totally get what you're saying, I like Japanese cars, and when I say Japanese, I mean Japanese, stuff that is designed, engineered, built and sold in the home market, I want to be able to go to Japan and see my car driving on the streets over there, "Japanese" cars that are designed in America for the American market does nothing for me. If there's one thing I really like about my third generation Mazda 6 is that it's a genuine Japanese car, designed, engineered and built in Japan, by the Japanese, placed on a ship and brought to America.

[@rasheedh7043]

Nothing unpopular about it You are absolutely correct

[@Pilot597]

Nothing unpopular about your opinion. One of the reasons I bought a Mazda CX5 was that it was assembled in Japan.

[@ksuen106]

Honda like all automakers got rid of their practical/affordable cars like The Fit, and replaced them with expensive SUVs.

[@dootdoot1867]

The honda fit and Toyota echo are easily some of the best bang for buck on the road. Solid 30 year cars, everyday.

[@zachkennedy8812]

I miss my Honda fit so much

[@stevsteve0694]

Unfortunately american car culture is not about utility but cool toys

[@KillerLettuce]

Agreed. Honda wont be all that cool again until it stops making so many SUV's. SUV's are never cool.

[@Kirnotsarg]

I recently bought an 8-year-old Jazz.

[@rhenry212]

Their cars are too expensive for what you get. They want to compete with luxury cars but aren’t offering luxury cars.

[@es9221]

True for every car these days

[@Mr_Pussi]

Honda is stubborn and doomed to fail.

[@Slaxsvo]

@@Mr_PussiWhat a hot take for a global company like Honda, coming from a guy nobody’s ever heard of.

[@Corgiking521]

A new civic is under 30k. There are no luxury brands that cheap

[@alexdoan273]

their luxury branch is Acura lol, of course Honda isn't offering luxury cars. Just like Toyota and Lexus

[@turbinator1990]

This video doesn’t address another problem. If I’m buying a Japanese branded car like Honda I’m expecting high build quality like to do when their Honda factories in Japan. More of these vehicles like Acura that they make in the US are not the same as manufactured in Japan.

[@comeconcon569]

Acura was never launched in Japan. it was launched in North America.

[@d3vilscry666]

Yeah because Amerikkkans are not skilled workers.

[@letit023]

The problem with Honda right now, they're overcharging. For a new accord it almost 30k. It like they're trying to sell you a metal chain and calling it gold. And also Honda was never consider cool. It was considered a reliable and more important affordable car, which is now losing that main appeal.

[@miguelbaeza65]

That's how much midsize sedans are selling for. But for my money, I would go for the Camry because you automatically get a hybrid powertrain. Honda makes you pay an extra $5,000 to enter the hybrid powertrain on the Accord

[@andrewschliewe6392]

That's incorrect the base price of the Camry and Accord are nearly identical.

[@Alumnikiid]

I can already get an 2024 Accord Ex for $25k. With less than 5-10k miles. Yet starting price is $30k same year as new

[@Alumnikiid]

@@andrewschliewe6392The base Camry at least comes with the Top trims hybrid system.

[@Corgiking521]

If you adjust for inflation a 1991 Accord was basically equivalent to 30k now. Nothing has changed

[@googleuser211]

Earlier this year, I test-drove Toyota RAV4 Prime, Honda CRV, Hyundai Tuscon, Kia Sportage, Mazda CX5. I tested only hybrid and top tier (trim) versions only. (Cx5 is only one that doesn't offer a hybrid version, yet) Here is my ranking in comfort and smooth driving, technology, features, warranty, and the price. 1. Hyundai Tuscon/Kia Sportage 2. Honda CRV 3. RAV4 4. Mazda CX5 I ended up buying Kia Sportage PHEV SX-Line Sportage. Honda and Toyota have infotainments look like from the 1990s in the year 2025. No 360-degree cam or parking like Kia/Hyundai and many other features missing. No USB C in 2024 models. Toyota/Honda 60,000 warranty Hyundai/Kia 100,000 warranty. It has been 4 months and I couldn't be happier with my decision. Sporatge is a very nice family car.

[@HerrPoopschitz]

Short term satisfaction w/ Korean junk. Get back to us in 4-5 years.

[@piltg8568]

Honda never tried to be cool, the aftermarket and street racing and customization made them cool. Remember Toyota made Scion a whole new company just to try to be cool like Honda with customization.

[@meandmrsjones8303]

My 2020 Honda Pilot has had multiple recalls since I purchased it. When I call to make an appointment to have it fixed, they say the parts are unavailable or limited, and only urgent needs will be addressed. It is up to my local dealership to decide if the fix to my vehicle is urgent or not.

[@jameslowry3208]

The safety aspect pertaining to said fault is what dictates urgent. Supply chains are hurting the entire industry, don't blame your local dealer.

[@KamBar2020]

Make TOYOTA Tundra Great Again 😎 Scotty Kilmer

[@dootdoot1867]

Every manufacturer right now. There are like 50k chevy cruise brand new waiting for a new motor. Ford and GM can't get 10 speed trans parts or replacements. Hyundai Kia can't even get 2.4l motors to replace the faulty ones. Toyota is practicing right on time part distribution, so often it's weeks or wait. Germans entire car distribution network is falling apart right now. Subaru is hilarious. 2 month wait for parts, Volvo lol, ...... Nissan of today has no aftermarket support, stellantis relies on Europe which is screwed.

[@RSJ1947]

​@@jameslowry3208 I'm trying to understand the last 2 years why is the supply chain is still stuck in covid times? Are we low on the supply of raw materials or are the manufacturers unable to keep up with the demand?

[@jameslowry3208]

@@RSJ1947 not 100% sure, most likely keeping up with demand

[@kj.rising]

Honda is a solid company with excellent vehicles. As others have mentioned, they need better suppliers. They are behind in EV but let’s see how that develops. I recently purchased a new Accord Touring and it’s a great car. My opinion, their cars are reliable, easy to maintain and drive much better than Toyota.

[@MOBMJ]

My dad had 3 pilots in his lifetime, a 2008, 2012 and 2017. all where great except the 2017. It had transmission issues and went back to the dealership 4 times. my dad got a lawyer and joined a class action were people were experiencing the same thing on pilots and odysseys. My dad told Honda, I just want a New car. I don't care about the money. I still love the car but, if you fight it, I will destroy you guys. they said no, good luck. we are not giving you a new car. here we are with $50K later

[@KamBar2020]

Make TOYOTA Prius Great Again 😎 Scotty Kilmer

[@DroneStrike1776]

2017 used the 9spd and it's problematic. Even the older 5 speeds and 6 speeds are problematic. Honda doesn't know how to make automatic transmissions. The only Honda I ever owned had a manual transmission.

[@realnapster1522]

@@DroneStrike1776I have a Civic and Odyssey and they run fine. Both are automatics.

[@User-o6e5o]

@@KamBar2020, but make sure you have a spare head gasket and tools to replace it 😅

[@blu0065]

Interesting. I didn't know the ZF9 (not a Honda developed transmission) had so many issues. I am only aware of the issues from the first generation H5-derived automatic transmissions. Maybe there is a reason they are now using their in-house 10-speed?

[@mrnobodymobile]

I'm telling you Mazdaz's have been slept on for a while now not to mention their engines being Toyota made.

[@jameslowry3208]

just the CX-50, not their lineup as assumed with your statement

[@gerbearjones6056]

Exactly ... Mazda teamed up with Toyota because the Mazda engines were outperforming Toyota engined in fuel economy and design.

[@SDpapa]

No thanks, bough a new Mazda 6 back in 2015 and OMG, it left me stranded twice in my 23 months ownership, sold it at a huge loss, it has one of the worst depreciations in the industry. Eletronics were the culprit, never never never again will buy a Mazda. Terrible experience.

[@DroneStrike1776]

It's why I drive a current gen Mazda3 awd hatchback.

[@disco.lemonade]

So you mean the brand cannot keep up making good engines?

[@zak5715]

A lot of Honda vehicles just aren't competitive in their respective segments. If you look at the new CR-V for example, it's lacking so many features compared to its competition and you can find something just as reliable at Toyota or something with way more features for the money at Hyundai/Kia.

[@TheMrJourneyer]

And yet CR-Vs are only outsold by RAV4s in the segment (and more than a few have said they bought CR-Vs because the waiting list for a RAV4 was just way too long). Probably not the example you’d want to use here.

[@WalidKhan]

Base level CR-Vs lack a lot of tech, but the top trim is just as good as any other brand. But the drivetrain and reliability is what people buy CR-Vs for. Most dealerships have a long waitlist for CR-Vs. It's a very good offering as a midsize SUV.

[@Lana-xd7ey]

Less features yet have the same prices is the problem

[@ironrain1x]

I think the short supply of certain toyotas are by design to promote scarcity for a premium

[@fastmover2598]

What made the Honda Accord and Civic "cool" was the fact that they were customizable--especially for the younger owners. Because of this, Accords and Civics became better-handing, sportier and more esthetically appealing even though they were, at their base, family sedans or economy cars. Of course, the reputation for affordability, reliability and dependability helped among the younger demographic, too.

[@fitnessfanatic87]

I think some of Honda's problems stem from the reputation of being a Honda, and possibly banking on the idea that if it's a Honda it must be excellent. In my opinion, Honda lost its value proposition. For example, the HRV is a good vehicle, but it has an underpowered engine and in the top model, I cant get a good sound system. My subaru crosstrek, however has more value for similar price....top stereo, better engjne, lots of power.

[@raxjax8787]

They need to get rid of their CVTs

[@Mr_Pussi]

They are stubborn. Just like VW with their DSG.

[@mrt4575]

all cars should be manual... All automatic transmissions are junk...

[@raxjax8787]

@ I’m gonna have just slightly disagree with you. Hondas automatics are super reliable if you take care of it and don’t abuse it and drive it properly. One of the biggest things that keeps the transmission going and last almost forever it’s to perform transmission fluid maintenance which people often overlooked and never doing it, as all they care about is getting oil changes and go.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

Agreed. just put in a 10 gear automatic transmission.

[@mrt4575]

@@raxjax8787 i just replied to original commenter... I have a Subaru with cvt with no problems over 10 years...

[@weswest8666]

The worst thing is the $10-$20k price increase for Acura, you’re literally paying $10-$20k extra for sound deadening…

[@very_tall_dude]

Very little difference in ride quality between the new accord and TLX

[@dontelindsey5846]

They ride nothing alike. Not even the same powertrains. ​@@very_tall_dude

[@userbosco]

The S2000, what an epic ride. They need something similar or a new Prelude.

[@bobjoe3566]

I bought my 2023 Civic hatch 2.0 with the 6 speed 1.5 years ago and absolutely love the car… I intentionally sought out the car for the fun and reliability

[@StinkySundae]

Hyundai is doing their best to improve their reputation. Honda doesn't need to do their best because of their already established reputation.

[@User-o6e5o]

Reputation of stolen cars 😂 KIA, Hyundai and Nissan are junk

[@dootdoot1867]

What have they done? Their piston rings are renowned for being some of the worst. Their block castings are the worst. But they can style a car and market well. But they are a 8-12 year car life before on deathbed. Opposed to a 1999 Honda crv that will be around longer then every Sante fe on the road right now.

[@StinkySundae]

@ their warranty is the only thing keeping them alive.

[@DuskDream3R]

Keep telling yourself that and dwelling on old problems while you overpay for less value in a Japanese car. New Kia models kick-ass and are extremely popular, while the original leaders continue to struggle.

[@alive4metal731]

hyundai/kia/nissan all look good and flashy, but ultimately they are not well made vehicles. Their cars feel cheap, and theres a reason why their resale value pummels after a year or so of ownership.

[@johndaugherty3544]

Honda will and always has been conservative with marketing. They let the vehicles speak for themselves. However, they’ve lost the “Honda Edge” that Soichiro Honda pushed. Even with Hirotoshi as the predominant shareholder, he lacks the vision and interest of Akio Toyoda. It’s as if they’ve almost swapped places and Akio is pushing racing/development and Hirotoshi is listening to a board of miscalculating and stock pushing advisors. Without excitement, there is no future in motor, sports, or sales. Get to it Hirotoshi!!!🙏🏻

[@spicytuna62]

Prelude owner here. It's not a fast car to drive. It's an exciting car to drive. And Preludes used to be everywhere in the 80s and 90s. The new one doesn't fill me with excitement the way my '97 Type SH does, even if it is better in every measurable way. The old Preludes have a soul that the new one looks to be lacking. All it needs is solid handling, 200 hp, and a rev-happy engine. That's all it takes to have a solid competitor to the BRZ/GR86.

[@abdulgill5013]

They just released the type r and integra type s not too long ago and are in the works of a new prelude, not sure entirely what they’re missing in terms of sports cars.

[@wessmith2716]

The new accord is HIGHLY DISAPPOINTING.

[@dapivimu]

You don’t even have it. People talk so much crap driving an old ass car. The car is nice looking, high quality interior, good hybrid engine. Now if you were to give me specifics like value, lack of features, then I could say yes, but that’s across their line up. I suggest you watch the review by the car care nut. You’ll see why people don’t regret their decision.

[@theholt2ic219]

@@dapivimuyou right there on the money literally. The people complaining about it were never going to buy it brand new anyways no matter how good or bad it looked. Most likely purchase it used years from now. And I think it’s over exaggerated, I do not think it’s a bad looking car just pricer than before

[@deet4895]

​@@dapivimuThe 11th generation Accord is a dumpster fire, it's not an improvement over the 10th generation in any way, that's why it's not selling well, a lot of owners with the 10th generation aren't giving them up for the new one, there's no good reason to buy a new accord over a new Camry.

[@UsmanTariq1992]

Agree. Bought it new. Had so many issues within one year. Turned out most came out the factory. One still isn’t fixed.

[@wessmith2716]

@@deet4895 i have a 10 gen 2.0. I’ll never get rid of it

[@RJ6AV6]

Headgasket issues, rod bearing issues, transmission issues, tin can build quality. Honda is definitely not what it used to be 🤷

[@DroneStrike1776]

J35s destroying itself. 1.5t oil dilution. 9spd made out of glass. They're trying to compete with Hyundai/Kia who can build the the worst high volume cars.

[@theholt2ic219]

@@DroneStrike1776the 1.5ts most serious issue is head gaskets. The oil dilution uhhhh doesn’t happen in every region.

[@DELICIOUSORANGECHICKEN]

Show me some proof papi

[@RJ6AV6]

@@DELICIOUSORANGECHICKEN I'm a technician at a dealership, and if you need more proof research it online buddy

[@DELICIOUSORANGECHICKEN]

@@RJ6AV6 that’s what they all say. I’m a Facebook technician 🧑‍🔧

[@mikekirby2085]

I think honda has been far too conservative with their car designs and figures. Cars have added more power in most brands. The Si has been underpowered for years. Acuras are considerably down on power vs their competition. Power isnt everything but Honda continually takes the safest most tame route which makes comparisons look underwhelming.

[@KamBar2020]

Make TOYOTA Prius Great Again 😎 Scotty Kilmer

[@n7y8c7]

This is the answer. I've owned 4 back when they were cool. The last was a '95 del Sol. Loved that car. Now they're very expensive, and not attractive at all.

[@realnapster1522]

They underrate their engines.

[@KaranSingh5]

I've a 2016 Civic LX in Canada. And the AC system on that car has been a nightmare. It has broken down several times. I was surprised to see that many problems with a reliable brand like Honda.

[@bwofficial1776]

If you're in Canada, you don't really need AC.

[@Antonio-lt1sp]

I also had issues with my AC here in Brazil (Honda Fit 2019). The owner of the repair shop said he has a stock of the parts, because basically all Honda models here are showing the same problems. There are reports of failure after a couple of years. I had 4 Hondas before this one, and never had any issues. It is clear their quality is no longer the same.

[@KaranSingh5]

@@bwofficial1776 it's only in Summers during afternoons. Due to greenhouse effect in car. 😅

[@bertschuh5720]

Bring back the Element to be cool!

[@BrooklynBound4]

I love my Element! Rusted chassis and all

[@harveysanchez6993]

The guy in beginning, Gregory Noble, making such statement of Honda is not making the transition to electric vehicles quickly enough, yet many electric vehicles are just sitting in many car dealers lots, and we all know, many people want more sportier cars with gasoline engines vs electric motors. I can't believe he made such statement when everyone is screaming loud all over the Internet that they don't want EV's.

[@Anomize23]

The lies they try to push 😂 kinda like those that invested too much into EVs thinking that people are gonna line up like it’s the new iPhone. Or so, in their delusional mind they think😂

[@realnapster1522]

It’s MSM lies 😂

[@ShawnUrich]

Noble was right. Honda has screwed up their EV transition and that’s the major reason they are getting killed in China. The EV’s sitting on dealer lots like GM and Ford are compliance cars that weren’t produced to be successful. They are made so they could pay less in regulatory credits

[@skierpage]

EV sales are increasing faster than combustion-engined sales. The strategy of falling behind in EVs so your sales in China (by far the biggest car market) collapse, but you hide behind tariffs in North America and Europe selling your old technology, is NOT a recipe for success, even if Toyota, VW, GM, Ford, Honda, etc. are all adopting it. Chinese EV makers will dominate South America, South-East Asia, and African markets while they build factories in Europe.

[@KurniadiPrathomo-sp5zd]

Lucid Air Sapphire, an EV 4-doors sedan, "smokes" any current Lamborghinis. Just sayin'.

[@jamslam5641]

My first Japanese car was the Acura Integra and have owned over 10 Hondas since. What has been hurting Honda recently are boring uninspired design, decontenting, poor reliability and mass recalls. I just bought a Honda CR-V and it's been in the shop longer than I've been driving due to engine problems. I had the original CR-V from the 90s and it was bulletproof and fun to drive.

[@realnapster1522]

CRV with engine problems? Did you change oil? 😅

[@User-o6e5o]

Even though I have enough money for a new car, I decided to buy a low mileage 2007 CR-V. Screw all that new junk

[@yellowrice1453]

What year integra did you have?

[@schalitz1]

Honda has raised prices faster than Toyota, and therefore are more expensive than the competition.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

No, they aren't. Accords and Camrys are very very close in pricing.

[@alvinsimba734]

@@andrewschliewe6392the fact is Toyota is cheaper than Honda. Corollas are cheaper and than civic just like Camry cheaper than accord. Toyotas also got more trims for anyone whereas at Honda not too many trims sadly

[@andrewschliewe6392]

@@alvinsimba734 How do you figure? Accord has 6 trim levels and Camry only has 4. Now the Civic only has 4 compared to Corolla's 7. You can't just make blanket statements about a brand unless its true across the board. Also the Base Camry and Accord are nearly identical in price and at the top end to have the same features for both the Camry XSE is $500 more than the Accord Touring.

[@KamBar2020]

Make TOYOTA Great Again 😎 Scotty Kilmer

[@realnapster1522]

Honda is still better than Toyota or any mainstream brand. Ergonomics, handling and engine is superior.

[@charleswagenseil5496]

Quality control needs to drastically improve (Toyota too). Too many recalls and issues with the 1.5T engines and catastrophic CVT failure rate. While other manufacturers are jumping all on board the EV bandwagon, Honda should focus on providing high quality IC and Hybrid vehicles.

[@chrissimmons9969]

I totally agree that QC needs to be improved on all fronts. Your take on Honda CVTs is just wrong. They produce some of the best and most reliable CVTs. Now Nissan JATCO CVTs is a different story. However your point about the Honda 1.5 liter turbo engine is absolutely spot on.

[@charleswagenseil5496]

I agree that the Honda CVTs are not as terrible as the JATCO/Nissan CVTs. However, if you look at when most breakdown, it occurs before 200K miles. You can’t really fix them. A new replacement unit costs $8-10K! At that point, you decide whether to invest in a new unit or buy something else. Most Americans don’t have $1000 emergency fund.

[@chrissimmons9969]

@@charleswagenseil5496 totally fair point about when CVTs do breakdown( regardless of the brand) there is just no fixing them, they're toast.

[@nitinprasad3842]

Their accord looks likes a damn boat

[@kevinroosa1315]

Kinda wild that they haven't experimented with the EV/range extender combo. They have extensive R&D poured into both generators and hybrid vehicles. Also, it may just be my ADHD, but I'm not a fan of boatloads of electronics in cars. It's so distracting to have several screens doing a million things. They could make their cars less expensive *and* appealing to folks that want to pay attention to the road without distractions. Every manufacturer is going this route, and it would be a nice differentiator.

[@monstercameron]

Hondas used an eCVT and can operate in series and parallel modes. Note series is effectively the same thing as range extender mode

[@deepseer]

They have tried. But they tried it in China, where the competition is fiercest. Their PHEVs have a bad reputation because of some serious design flaws, not to mention the price. For example, the first-generation CR-V PHEV only has a 26-litre fuel tank. And their first-generation Accord PHEV puts its battery behind the rear seat, creating a huge hump in the boot.

[@firefalcoln]

The Honda Clarity was a PHEV similar to the Volt for most U.S. buyers. It was only available a few years though.

[@maindimon]

Mazda is the new Honda.

[@dontelindsey5846]

Mazda is the next Acura.

[@idid1866]

Word on the street!

[@Antiwoke1]

I’m on my 5th Honda. 2019 civic coupe 6 speed manual. 42,000 original miles. I still get offers from dealers frequently who want to buy it. Lots of fun to drive.

[@realkimchi88]

Honda designers have been so lacking in the last decade, esp true for acura. and their current refreshes don't even look as good as Lincoln

[@Slaxsvo]

Totally agree, which is a bummer as a Honda/Acura fan.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

Agreed, they have over the years, took some of the really nice features and got rid of them.

[@christianhighlights4434]

Lincoln 😂

[@derrickblanding2730]

I've been wondering if they were getting inspiration from BMW, specifically the tail lights on accord.

[@KamBar2020]

Make TOYOTA Tacoma Great Again 😎 Scotty Kilmer

[@Sam-d8o6q]

Acura needs more of a push globally. Lexus has established Toyota in the upper end market, Acura needs to do the same.

[@SirChocula]

I bought my first new car, the TLX. After that, I'm never buying a Honda or Acura again.

[@realnapster1522]

Lexus is boring. Acura is much better in handling.

[@heyitsbroski]

I'll never sell my 2005 Accord EX V6. That V-tech is so sweet. It's simple and low maintenance.

[@Uchihawallstreet]

Read the comments Honda and take notes

[@phillm156]

Honda was cool when it built great engines. Engines that sing to 8k rpm, last 200k miles. Transmissions that last & manual transmission that feels like "well oiled rifle bolt". V6 that revs eagerly to 7k with great efficiency. Now it’s oil dilution, head gaskets problems, CVTs. Rod bearing failures. Long wheel base sedans (TLX) with subcompact interiors. $58k for a 4 cylinder. Just wait till the new Recall for 2018-2023 V6 engines.

[@texleeger8973]

The world needs an Element Electriq. - Element owner (the most useful/versatile car ever owned since my first in '76) PS I bought my orange Element EX-P six years ago. It was the only Element in town. Now there are several. It's still a very popular car in northern New England. And I assume the many more I see each year are refurbs purchased from here, there, and everywhere.

[@mlodyme3675]

Bring 6 speed manual gear box into TLX Type-S and you instantly get one happy customer.

[@realnapster1522]

I agree. They also need to make new S2K hybrid manual transmission.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

But doesn't that have the shifter paddles already.

[@justacinnamonbun8658]

It's a race to the bottom for all manufacturers, when you see these previously unheard of issues with Toyota and Honda. Eventually the market will straighten itself out (like the fact EVs are so cheap today) so I'm sure Honda and Toyota will right the ship and be around for at least another 100 years.

[@TheNJB]

My 2015 honda has a blindspot camera that the newer models dont have anymore, I feel like honda has lost a bit of its edge.

[@biovmr]

Agree. My 2019 Fit has the right-side blind spot camera, and it's the best safety-related add-on I've ever seen on a vehicle for visibility purposes. I believe every car should have dual-blind-spot cameras standard/mandatory. It's that much BETTER/safer than turning your head away from the front view of the car all the time (and it's much better for older folks whose bodies don't twist like they used too...). They could ditch the mirrors and just use the dual camera set up, saving money overall, and improving drag coefficient of the vehicles.

[@Dave414-j8l]

I bought a 2024 Honda Civic Touring. It’s fantastic! Smooth, peppy, and comfortable. Love it.

[@DriverX-JDM]

Honda still makes amazing cars... it's just that people now days r ignorant... or h

[@dootdoot1867]

I hate their GDI turbos, too much pressure in the cylinder causing blowby and oil dilution issues, prematurely wearing cylinder walls. They made it to meet bureaucratic emissions caps. Their 2.0 natural aspired 4 cylinder is bulletproof compared.

[@k20z3keith7]

​@@dootdoot1867They fixed that issue several years ago. It mainly affected people up North. My buddy has 100k on his Type R and has owned it since new. Not a single problem.

[@heilaw7002]

I loved my Honda until the AC start to fail every two years. I know that it has something to do with EPA , bs 1234yf and whatnot but still

[@Blank00]

⁠@@dootdoot1867good thing Honda is starting to phase the turbo out. Their hybrids are paired with naturally aspirated engines, so you will need to get the SI if anyone wants a turbo civic

[@Ianmundo]

Hydrogen is a complete dead end, I hope Honda realises that sooner rather than later

[@TheMrJourneyer]

Japanese car manufacturers are really insisting on hydrogen because it’s the infrastructure that works best for Japan. Easier for them to source hydrogen than what is needed to create electric batteries.

[@ShawnUrich]

@@TheMrJourneyerNot buying that at all. Hydrogen is inefficient for Japan just like every other country. Honda better get going on BEV’s or they’ll be out of business

[@CyborgZeta]

I love my 2013 Accord. My only issue with Honda right now is that they've gotten really expensive. A new Accord is not cheap; even mine was over $16,000 after taxes despite a 74,000 mileage.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

The same goes for any other mid size sedan, they all are around the same price range.

[@Hdhfhhdh]

Wow back in 2017 when I was shopping for a car , I saw Honda accord with 35 k miles listed for $16,000. These prices are insane now !!

[@hongNguyen-ls9xc]

My 2005 honda accord engine still runs like a champ at 175k miles. All original. Good old days.

[@lucycooper9149]

What I want from Honda is what they've historically made: a practically scaled car (in my case, that means a hatchback with a good boot) that keeps going for 100K miles. I don't mind paying a bit more for that, as long as I pay less in repairs down the road.

[@louislopez55]

I had a 2006 Civic coupe with a manual. It had so many problems I never bought a Honda again. Nothing to do with the engine or transmission, I had to replace the driver side sun visor at least 5 times because it would fail and droop right in my view. The cruise control button broke, the automatic driver side door lock broke, the driver side power window motor broke. The shifter ball cracked, the paint on the hood spider cracked on the entire surface. And it was the loudest car I’ve ever owned. My 1988 CRX was fantastic, but built in Japan. These American/Canadian built Hondas don’t compare.

[@firdausrosli90]

Come to Malaysia 🇲🇾 Honda is considered the coolest brand here with huge following among youngsters, be it motorbikes or cars especially those RS and Type-R variants.

[@stigonboard5751]

Cool only for B40 ppl that started with Proton cars … the professionals prefer Toyota or Mazda

[@michaelriera6277]

Honda was such a cool company. Remember the Prelude with all wheel steering, VTec, the cool Integra, Civic SI, used to be an amazing company making fun driving cars that everyone could afford.

[@Chris-N916]

Also the NSX, S2000, and the Type-R trims.

[@Phrancis5]

I'm still driving a 97 Prelude, but most newer offerings can't be had with a stick and just feel bloated.

[@rickholow307]

Bought a A45 and within one year need to be in a trailer towing back 250km back to service center due to some electrical chipping issues while my fd2 RR 2007 still runs super smoothly for 17 years till today and the 2nd hand value is still high due to limited units. The only problem is, got to be extra careful on your whereabouts driving this vehicle coz of gta due to its limitation and sought after rare parts. I’m blessed and happy with the opportunity to owning one of the rarest models available from Honda.

[@louiec.9782]

I would buy one of Hondas manual vehicles if they were affordable 😊

[@MarkLayton]

My 1985 Honda Prelude was so fun to drive. It's wide wheelbase would grab those turns, it felt so low and sporty to drive. I hope the new version of the Prelude is as fun to drive!

[@icomefromcanadia2783]

All OEMs have lost their way. People have smaller families than ever yet OEMs are almost exclusively making the biggest, blandest, chunkiest, vehicles ever. Nothing but huge boring family vehicles with lazy designs inside and out. Everything looks the same, and not in a good way. Then you look at MSRPs being way too damn high, and add on top the outrageous dealer markups and buying a brand new vehicle just isn't even worth considering right now. Honda used to stand for simple, reasonable size, reliable, affordable fun. Now the only thing they have is fairly reliable. There's nothing fun about them anymore, and they're all big and expensive.

[@jimwu8532]

Overweight Americans, am I right? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 In Europe/JP they have more variety in the smaller cars (like Kei cars). North America, typically they have one subcompact, if that.

[@Anomize23]

THATS THE PROBLEM!! ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️Right here in these comments!! JUST OVERBLOATED VEHICLES. Until they stop just pushing them, keep up the delusional nonsense of being “cool”

[@realnapster1522]

You can still buy the Type R which is made in Japan and is fastest FWD car.

[@icomefromcanadia2783]

@realnapster1522 True enough, and I'm thankful that it's at least a manual and not an SUV, though it's still a chunky, oversized, overpriced 4 door unfortunately, so still hard pass. It's better than nothing but still garbage compared to pre-00s Honda with light, fun, affordable cars. Nowadays they all look the same and are all too big , too boring, and too expensive. Type R included, though it is the best of the bad.

[@codincoman9019]

Thank the EPA/CAFE regulations (meaning the One World Order, pushing to cancel your freedoms) for that.

[@steveelrino1339]

got a loner civic, brand new ~1000 miles on the odo. I realized it was as nice as my old Audi A4 less the AWD. If I didn't have kids, an SI would be my next car. They have a place as understated efficient but fun cars.

[@SDpapa]

Owned nothing but Honda's in the 90's and 00's. I had an Accord, Odyssey and Pilot in the garage at one point. Then my wife's brand spanking new 2015 Odyssey started leaking rain water from the moonroof and shade holder. It also had a major suspension issue squiky noises when driving over speedbumps. Dealer couldn't figure it out, nor willing to address the issues appropriately. Sold her Odyssey the very next day at a huge loss. Since then switched to Palisade, Sienna, Tucson, Elantra, RAV4 and a Grand Highlander. We are very happy with these vehicles. Have not owned a Honda for 10 years now. Too bad cause back in the 90's Hondas were terrific. I wonder if their cars not being built in Japan but rather in the States jad anything to do with their quality gone down hill.....

[@davewilson7602]

@@SDpapa you probably just got a bad one. The odyssey you had was built in Alabama as was your pilot most likely. If you had a 2008-12 V6 accord also that factory, if not Ohio. But even in the 90s they were built in America mostly, civics and accords have always been US or Canada since the 80s

[@creepinwhileyousleepin]

My first car was a 5 speed 97 civic, absolutely amazing reliability and a lot of fun, I put that little sohc through hell and it never missed a beat. Also really nice to do maintenance on, everything was easy to get to, easy to replace. Parts were cheap back then too, I miss it. Would love to get another one again someday if I could find it.

[@buggaboo333]

We purchased a 2019 Honda Odyssey. What a disappointment the car has been. We will never buy another Honda. As a kid, Honda was the most reliable car you could buy. Not anymore.

[@RealJaybeeMusic]

what issues have you run into with your odyssey?

[@agreetodisagree7059]

Odyssey’s aren’t exactly their finest car tbh. My dad had one and had to change the transmission like 3 times

[@dannyk847]

It's a Van! Wtf do you expect. Vans are boring- that's why soccer moms drive SUVs

[@User-o6e5o]

⁠@@dannyk847, an old Odysseys were bulletproof cars. My friends contractors abused them so badly, and they still run.

[@kaveh1933]

Excellent public reporting. Thank you CNBC for such engaging material.

[@jeffm5099]

They knocked it out of the park with the 2026 Passport.

[@KamBar2020]

Slava TOYOTA 🦾 Scotty Kilmer

[@67keyakaren68]

no they didn’t. It’s a fake wannabe 4 runner

[@RichardArpin]

This is a joke right?

[@67keyakaren68]

@@RichardArpin it’s made in alabama. it looks like a fake 4x4. it happens to be a fwd based crossover. same interior as any honda. engine can’t even make 300hp with poor mpg. but for honda fans who aren’t the smartest bunch it’s a great thing lol

[@realnapster1522]

Pilot Trailsport is best

[@darrylt8502]

i own the 2017 Acura iLX - love it. Love the DCT. Love the dual screen which people complained about. Got a great deal on it brand new.

[@giovanahc]

I just bought a new Honda CR-V 2024. I had been saving more than 5 years. I had two previous Hondas, and I love them. I hope I didn't make a mistake after all my time saving. I definitely got a discount but it was small. I wanted some bells and whistles, too. I know this contributed to the price. I checked the consumer report as well. I definitely tested and drove other brands before Honda to be objective. I made my final decision with Honda, though...

[@realnapster1522]

Honda is king… 😅

[@giovanahc]

@@realnapster1522 😆😅✌🏽

[@DELICIOUSORANGECHICKEN]

You did well chica. Don’t let these clowns at MSNBC influence you.

[@azchef101]

My first was an '88 CRX, loved that car. Bring that one back.

[@johnnycash5858]

Anyone that still thinks EV is going to be a thing anytime soon is living in a California fantasy world so ending it there is so weird. The market might think EV is something but the average car buyer doesn’t, and crashing demand for anything EV has made that clear. Meanwhile Honda Pilots have a waiting list at most dealerships, but you conveniently left that point out.

[@staycgirlsitsgoingdown2]

The demand for EVs isn’t crashing by any means. The model Y is the best selling suv in the world, every single western automaker is failing in china as people refuse to buy their ICE engines in favor of electric ones, sales are growing 40-60% year over year in the US, this is the future. You can whine all you want, they’re here to stay. Honda can keep selling gas guzzlers for another few years but as battery tech improves and the shortfalls of EVs go away and the market pivots, they’re gonna be left behind if they don’t start trying. Hondas first EV that they just launched a few months ago is also quickly becoming a best seller… so clearly people want one

[@v4vannatta521]

Switched to Honda Pilot after my Hyundai Genesis Coup motor threw a rod below 80k miles... Going with the engine company :) LOVE my 2024 Pilot!

[@JorgeMejia-fe8cs]

With the CRV not offering things like a panoramic roof, cooled seats, and plug in hybrids they shot themselves in the foot. Rav 4 offers it all for the same $

[@DELICIOUSORANGECHICKEN]

Cool story bro. Go buy a RAV4 and go away

[@JorgeMejia-fe8cs]

Thank you for your permission! I did and it’s better than your inferior CRV! …. Bro

[@urbanstrencan]

I love both brands Honda and Toyota but for me Toyota is doing a better job bringing us drivers cars like Supra, GR86, GR Yaris ❤❤❤❤

[@letsgobrandon416]

Modern turbo Si is NOT fun to drive. It's slow to rev, runs out of huff early, and generally feels slow, because it is slow and under powered. NSX got it's lunch eaten by C8 Corvettes. Nothing in their lineup is noteworthy except the Civic Type R, but that thing costs as much as a performance sedan, so that makes no sense at all.

[@Mtematiks]

The price ot the TypeR are ridiculos ! NEVER pay this price

[@Shiusen]

In the US, beancounting brings companies to its knees. In Japan, rigid and risk adverse culture does it in.

[@mrniceguy7168]

I love my 2024 Accord but it is expensive and styled very boring, and doesn’t have any fun engine options.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

Blame the US EPA. If you want fun engine options you have to go to the luxury brands and now you are looking at a starting price of $50K

[@AntonioGarcia-zg7nz]

I agree. I have a 2.0 turbo touring model that’s actually fun to drive. They axed the 2.0 turbo saying they only made up 15% of sales. But you could only get them in two models. That’s their fault for not offering it and building them. The new ones are slow, look like a Volkswagen and are boring.

[@adildriouech1293]

I am still driving my 2000 civic today, best car ever made by Honda.

[@30kendel]

Me as well.. I just dont use it for winter, so that they dont rust out!!😂 this will last forever and pass it on to a love one, once Im gone! The style is timeless it never looks outdated, most cars now a-days look like alien space cars, COOL! but everyday I see these cars they look weird!

[@MoNoK15]

Honda is a stellar brand and always will remain one. They need to focus on selecting better suppliers to maintain their superior quality and improve US factory building quality. I’m still rocking with Honda 💯

[@Kai-ic4mp]

Honda has made its mark in the automotive industry. With that being said “being cool” won’t save it self, the only way it’s to develop a EV that’s comparable to BYD, Xiaomi, ZEEKR among other Chinese EV brands. Which means quality control, advanced tech, reliable battery, manufacturing, and most importantly PRICE! so yea being “cool” won’t help

[@joshuacollins7398]

I had a 2009 Honda Civic coupe LX. I loved it. I need more space, so I brought a 2017 Mitsubishi outlander Sport AWD. My Civic had 116K, and I brought it in 2016 with 71K on it. Now, my Mitsubishi outlander Sport has 105K on it. I brought it in 2022 with 71K.

[@jobturkey7418]

My Honda was built in Mexico. Those guys actually did a decent job. 400k miles and I still drive it daily

[@ricardocruzjr581]

Honda is not going to be cool again as long as they are putting those whimpy 1.5 engines and CVTs

[@k20z3keith7]

Last gen generation of Hondas had some nice body lines and style. This new generation over corrected. They took the 2.0T out of the Accords. They barely offer a 6 speed unless it's the Si or Type R. The Type R is ridiculously overpriced for what it is. Yes, I've driven it a lot through some friends. The new ones are 50k... lol Hondas are still very reliable. They still make the J series and K series. The styling and paint quality needs to be addressed.

[@Romeoforbes]

Took them years to put heated seats and Navigating systems in regular vehicles.

[@MonkeyBidness359]

Recently had my 2010 Odyssey totaled by a young princess who thought she could turn left in front of me when I had the green light. Replaced it with a newer Odyssey because the old one did it's job and protected my family and I. I could not care one iota if they don't look cool. Honda's are safe and reliable and I won't look at anything else until my kids are grown and out the house.

[@kwadwothestan]

The problem with Honda is that they are more expensive than ever (even more expensive than Toyota despite them also raising their prices) yet their quality is slipping. They are also a little behind in car technology too, which is totally fine if you focus on affordability and reliability, which they did in the past.

[@trumpisastump9382]

Examples of la price comparison of like models between Honda and Toyota??? Because, you just took that nonsense out of a bodily orifice.

[@Western_Decline]

if we allowed Chinese cars into America, Honda would be dinosaur'd immediately

[@TheMrJourneyer]

@@Western_DeclineWe have lots of Chinese cars here - and I can say this isn’t true. The Chinese cars took share from Kia and Hyundai here, not Honda.

[@dootdoot1867]

Main problem with Honda is every manufacturers, bureaucrats pushing emissions cap that make them less reliable, like GDI turbos, CVTs. GM/Ford cylinder deactivation, Nissan CVTs, DEF.. etc, all this tech makes cars less reliable but meet bureaucratic standards. The consumer ends up suffering for it.

[@leonelbrava2738]

Honda is falling behind in terms of technology and now pretty unreliable. I don't understand the appeal anymore

[@KamBar2020]

Make TOYOTA Tundra Great Again 😎 Scotty Kilmer

[@67keyakaren68]

americans love ugly fat heavy hondas

[@johna.4350]

You know what would make Honda super cool? Going to a dealership trying to buy an FL5 Type R and not getting price gouged $5-8,000 over MSRP. It has been years since it's been out and I still can't find an honest dealership that will come close to MSRP.

[@TropicalMafia473]

Soundproofing!!!! The accord for example...on the top touring trim is so noisy inside. No passenger seat option to lift also the side crash tests were hoerible. Too nuch cost cutting. Plus the new one is ugly AF. Smh

[@Doublebarreledsimian]

Know what's cool? Reliability. Bring it back Honda. Honda past 2011 started becoming crap. So bring back that ol Honda reliability and you'll be cool again. That and the Element!

[@dylliedutch]

They need to do a complete overhaul and re-design across the board. They make boring/ugly vehicles and they just keep getting worse.

[@UncleGabe216]

As I am watching this,I'm currently looking at a Odyssey 😮

[@mrnarason]

Issue is that Honda cars are expensive and cost cutting, 2025 civic has no rear vents, USB, spare tire. 2025 camry cost less and has all of that

[@a124as]

You’re comparing a civic and a Camry. You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

Camrys and Accords pricing is nearly identical.

[@alvinsimba734]

@@a124aseven Corolla has more options on trims compared to civics

[@trumpisastump9382]

You are clearly trying to vent something. Hate for Honda?? Undying love for Toyota?? A Just to be clear, a Camry is not cheaper than a Civic. Period.

[@blackgold754]

@@andrewschliewe6392yes but camry offers more. For example if you spend over $41k on accord, you don’t get a luxurious interior, 360 cam, and HUd. You do with Toyotas.

[@vikslal]

They were never cool, but still my favorite car! I love my 2025 Pilot Black Edition!

[@tom11zz884]

Honda sadly is not the Honda of old with all the recalls and engines catching fire and oil dilution issues. Theres a video on KZbin of a 2025 CR V engine catching fire.

[@anonymousguy6928]

I love Hondas but they’ve gotten so expensive for what you’re getting. I don’t wanna spend nearly $35,000 on a CRV and have a rubber steering wheel and a tiny 7” screen. Also the Accord has a very similar starting price as the Camry, but the base model Camry is a hybrid and the base model Accord isn’!

[@user-oo8hm3hljnnjjjk]

The new Accord is ugly.

[@Antonio-lt1sp]

The previous Civic gen was a starship. Gorgeous and fun to drive. The new one seems like a 2000's design, with prices like 2050's.

[@rchatte100]

Honda in Europe is dying even faster than in US.

[@67keyakaren68]

Europeans are smarter than Americans. Americans love ugly slow ooor quality hondas. Europeans do not.

[@seymorefact4333]

✅ love the old hondas! Unfortunately, Honda is the NEXT MITSUBISHI and TOYOTA is NEXT NISSAN! They are to dependent on a shrinking US market with an aging 4% of global population. Honda with Nissan, Mitsu, and US market is ALL IN DECLINE DRASTICALLY! TRUMP will save FORD, GM and ignore all others! VW, TOYOTA, HONDA, NISSAN...5 TO 10YRS AND THEY WILL DISAPPEAR! CHINA IS DISRUPTING ALL MARKETS! USA makes a big deal of its shrinking car market. BUT CHINA already realize the global south with growing population and market is a better return! ✅

[@mattburrito]

thats a damn shame

[@67keyakaren68]

@ not really. Europeans are smart and know Honda is trash

[@MrLouislaf]

I’m a satisfied Honda customer here with a 2010 CRV. I bought it because I actually hate wasting money on cars. That’s why I chose a reliable vehicle…for minimum 10 years. It’s still running great. But I’m not going to blindly follow a brand. Their latest prices are outrageous, they’ve lost some of their reliability ratings. So I’m not so sure about Honda for my next vehicle.

[@Lucky8s]

After seeing that brand new CR-V hybrid blow up going just 80 mph, I think I'll have to be cautious about this brand now

[@cgatito3528]

That was probably the fuel pump leak - that has now been recalled.

[@jboy2621]

Love HMC. Fast n Furious was the biggest advertisement for Honda Civics. I wish I kept my coupe!

[@baronvonjo1929]

My 2018 Honda Fit was very unreliable and poorly made. I dont recommend Honda to anyone. It had issues after issues for no reason

[@gremlinking5640]

My mom had a Fit as well and it was awful. Don’t know why so many love them

[@investorbro21]

7:00 yeah record profits because of price gauging!!