Are the DeepSeek fears real?

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[@eoinc9511]

Fears? Only for the American %1. China should’ve called Deepseek “Luigi”

[@tomspencer1364]

Great! Deepseek Ver.5 "Luigi."

[@ZoeyHoerr]

Underrated comment!

[@timothysmith4863]

A minor speedbump. Money will keep flowing to people that invest.

[@Zoltar0]

Meeseeks

[@bobbysuazjFhvcfgh]

They should’ve trolled US companies and called it DeepDeep 😂😂😂

[@theheatinferno8420]

Amazing when you make a product for people to use, instead of making money for the shareholder class

[@willengel2458]

that's why Chinese companies are threat to the empire's donor class.

[@cdnsilverdaddy]

Naive

[@jesuisnoach]

But NVIDIA doesnt make AI models to sell, they sell GPUs for AI computing. Deepseek uses NVIDIA gpus.

[@polishhammertv6395]

lol guy watching cnbc says that

[@deborahd.7281]

Shareholders have not been profiting a lot lately, a few stocks soared, but many, if not most, did not.

[@free_fire_lover_4567]

Trump is expected to mention Qardun Token this week and the ICO is already almost sold out

[@mrzisme]

That's wonderful, smart investors would wait until he actually implements it instead of following random comments that were upvoted by bots.

[@akilakj1]

Is this the biggest scam by tech companies? Sell a product for billions while it actually worth few millions?

[@MohHus-r7o]

You raised a billion $ question. For oranges they charged apple price

[@thndr_strck_999]

well... the power of manipulating narratives. Thats how its done.

[@royprovins7037]

Why is this a scam. People buy a Coke for 2 bucks that takes 10 cents to make

[@akilakj1]

@ 😬😬😬

[@Dee_Rod]

You just described one of the basis of capitalism.

[@DennisSmith-oq9my]

Just shows how USA AI companys have been taking consumers to the cleaners, filling their jeans with your money, same with USA healthcare

[@RottTheGamer]

LOL okay bot... Get your bot ass out of here.

[@thetruth6955]

@@RottTheGameryou seem more of a bot than the original commenter. Rather than questioning the message, you resort to attacking the messager because you have no leg to stand on.

[@RajDeelish]

@@thetruth6955 You can tell the original commenter is a bot. He can't even spell correctly. Also, AI companies are not taking any consumers to the cleaners. Consumers can't even buy any of it at this point. Makes no sense. He's just trying to stick it to people over nonsense.

[@battle619]

@@thetruth6955- honestly, I feel like when someone calls another a “bot,” is like calling someone a slur. Except we all know that trolls like to hide behind their keyboards

[@DennisSmith-oq9my]

Over time ahead, everything will play out, just look at dumpy trumpt is deporting his foreign working people, who are going to do those jobs once they are gone, back to their home countries, i can't see you Rott, getting off your ass of your couch bending over picking crops in the fields, in the near future you will find that your so called leader is just thinking of himself and his greedy buddies don't give a ratts a ss about you and your kind

[@zlz-h2o]

What fear?! This should be celebrated by the whole world!

[@mr333333333]

lol…China destroyed AI open source in USA market…. 😂 USA lost…

[@MarioMao]

​@@mr333333333ask who are U, you will get cartGPT4😂😂

[@hammerr3]

It would be celebrated if it had come from the USA, who wants to have a monopoly on AI

[@josephhr74]

How’s it monpoly when it’s open source

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

No, you need to feel more compassion for Trump, Musk, Altman and all of the grifters that will suffer as a result of DeepSeek's release. They are worth sacrificing our personal preferences for.

[@napolean_ragland]

This is exposing the entire American system not just the tech sector

[@JinXing-j1l]

Every single sector

[@NK-iw6rq]

Congratulations to China for their progress and advancement in the AI space. This is what happens when you don't spend all your money on imperialist wars and focus on your own people.

[@PomaReign]

Are you serious? You don't see China modernizing and expanding their military? You don't see their massive navy? You don't see them invading the waters of their neighbors?

[@Mako2401]

The AI model is open source and allegedly costs 6 mil to make.

[@TexanSlappy]

Right comrade propaganda win!

[@MontysKillerRabbit]

Erm what. You connected to the Chinese government by any chance...

[@leobatard]

Spot on. All these wars make wall street bankers richer.God bless the CCP and the Party, God bless the Chinese people.

[@MarcoJr666]

Suddenly all the investors wake up realizing they have been the real suckers.

[@bobbysuazjFhvcfgh]

Nvidia will never ever live up to the expectations, apple is a one trick pony, meta is just a joke, what does Microsoft do that it’s worth 4T. Only Tesla is a company that has multiple verticals, multiple verticals in pipeline and great promise IMHO 😂😂

[@ai.simplified..]

As Machine learning engineer, DeepSeek gives a well structured article but not good answer if you ask following questions . DeepSeek isn’t as good as ChatGPT not even close. Those extra parameters are for following questions and knowledge of all aspect of the questioned Topic.

[@bobbysuazjFhvcfgh]

@ as an AI engineer I beg to differ

[@garrydye2394]

This sounds like the same guy that was happy when the Hurricanes took all the million dollar homes on the beach in FLorida and the same guy that was happy when the fires took all the million dollar homes in California. Wait a minute....are you broke?

[@jacoba5048]

You're rushing judgment

[@suhailahmd3493]

Wonder how Trump administration is going to be pumping Qardun Token

[@keepingittight]

To CHINA, Happy Chinese New Year, thank you for the free of charge generous gift called DeepSeek. Ignore these idiots on CNBC they are all about themselves, and a cynical bunch .

[@AP-ei4jt]

They all bought in those AI stocks lol.

[@Matt67012]

Nice comment, Wumao. You’ve earned your .25 cents for today

[@nev-dd9jq]

are you shackled to a PC somewhere in a Chinese concentration camp, pumping out YT comments 🤣

[@黑粉才是真爱粉]

@@Matt67012 Let me tell you a secret, you can buy half a garlic in China for 0.25 cents. Yes, you heard it right, it's the garlic mentioned in the news as a serious threat to US national security.😉

[@strongchallenger2269]

Aha😢... Aha 😢... Aha 😢... Trump has dock 1 cent from your account out of 1.5 billion 😢. Add oil! Add oil! ​@@Matt67012

[@TrickEra69]

These guys are trying to save their stocks. DON'T BUY THE BS ANYMORE.

[@dakalodk]

indeed

[@MohHus-r7o]

Don't buy until gets clear it's CNBC itself brought in Davos this Deepseek story or else I didn't know about it even before

[@RajDeelish]

You sounds like someone that missed out.

[@ParsianTV]

no, NVIDIA has always been under valued. The gain in efficiency only leads to wider adoption of AI and NVIDIA is present in all aspect. Efficiency means more data is produced by more efficient AI models -> more NVIDIA software solution will be utilized for training-> more training -> more NVIDIA chips for training -> more sophisticated models require more sophisticated hardware to inference -> NVIDIA is also present in this domain.

[@hanrenfighterjet]

Human talent and resources are just as expensive as Nvidia chips for developing AI. the Fact that Deepseek can succeed using very little of either destroyed the Nasdaq today

[@ffboos6613]

Leaks coming out about Trump working together with shareholders involved with Qardun Token

[@paulm9500]

Deepseek is what will burst the casino of insane unjustified AI valuations

[@drillbabydrill25-d6p]

I think think people are fully grasping the impact of this. Cryptos will be pulled down with stocks. Looks like a black swan.

[@giombi15]

This guy is ignoring reality. Deepseek costs 50-100x less to run in the cloud. If Fortune 500 CEOs don’t take advantage of the cost efficiencies because it’s Chinese tech , they’ll soon be forced to when they lose on costs to competitors that are. Good luck

[@Dubya9W9]

According to who? lol

[@makhosimayisa5800]

Cheap AI is here to stay!!!

[@eaman11]

@@Dubya9W9 Pricing Details on their web page

[@bannerlad01]

Yes - what a stupid statement. Also it can be taken completely offline.

[@rogergr5019]

You believe this? They used Nvidia chips anyway 😂

[@tonyatgoogle6076]

Ai race is really a mathematics race. America maths vs Chinese maths. Place your bet.

[@userwheretogo]

America Chinese vs China Chinese

[@chrism.1131]

I think Deep Seek works so well because it's actually people behind the curtain and not their computer.

[@Robin_Hood911]

​@@chrism.1131创始人是奥数冠军团队，如果美国不派出最顶尖的奥数团队，仅靠一堆平庸的上市公司CEO根本赢不了中国

[@kennethkho7165]

​@@SlipnDripI know several big name Chinese American AI researchers, while Indian American tend to be business CEOs. I also only see Chinese Americans in US math olympiad teams.

[@thewhiteknight02]

Chinese infrastructure has an early tipping point.

[@spgodement2335]

America : we have to buy it else ban Deepsake because it has security issues.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Oliver-v5y2z]

USA government itself is using PRISM backdoor,how can they accuse others

[@MS-wz9jm]

The true American way, ban anything and everything that costs our billionaires dollars 🤣

[@Anderson-f4t6c]

That's the best part it's open source unlike some companies like notopenai. They can't ban anything 🤣🤣🤣

[@TySchmidt]

As long as you don't ask it questions about China or the CCP, it's completely fine lol. But yeah ask about the CCP and it definitely has some of it's knowledge wiped

[@SK-vw8qt]

@@TySchmidt ye like open ai doesn't propogate american agenda america is the biggest propoganda machine ever created and its not even close

[@Karyabs]

DeepSeek just pointed out the naked emperor.

[@TrickEra69]

The American AI Con IS OVER.

[@knightsoftheroundtable87]

"It's over for America" just like in 1957.

[@matt.stevick]

commie

[@stephenwalker850]

When u say it’s over , can we expect trump to get on the blower to Columbia and apologise , or is it not that kind of over

[@SirHargreeves]

They will just train Deepseek improvements on huge clusters.

[@Toma-i8k]

Hahaha sure bro

[@seanchang4442]

I’ve been exploring Deepseek for the past 2 hours. Mind blowing.

[@justicegeneration]

And now they know everything about you too.

[@13BulliTs]

@@justicegeneration That was no secret to begin with, he already sold everything to Meta/Microsoft/YT/Google

[@adz19751]

How did you get the code? My code does not arrive at my email.

[@_Donovan]

@@justicegenerationmeta, google and apple already knew everything about you. Anonymity died in the 2000s after the financial crash. Dont really see the argument against china for data collection when our own government already does, WITHOUT our consent I might add

[@Oliver-v5y2z]

@@justicegenerationDo you know PRISM backdoor ？USA goverment knows everything about you

[@IamJonny-o4v]

AI stocks will dominate 2025. Why I prefer NVIDIA is that they are better placed to maintain long term growth potential, and provide a platform for other AI companies. I know someone who has made more than 200% from NVIDIA. I'll also take any other recommendations you make.

[@winifred-k9e]

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[@hectorgarcia8691]

That circus is what made it worth over 3.5 trillion dollars, nowadays it’s all about hype, publicity, celebrities, media and still more. This drives values to an inflated value.

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

A good summary/description of US society as a whole.

[@VincentConti-m5j]

Agreed except for the "nowadays" part. Always been this way😮

[@MichaelGazeley]

When the USA banned China from the ‘International’ Space Station, China built their own, called Tiangong. (You know, the space station which doesn’t currently house stranded astronauts.) It is a shame the USA always has to ‘block’ and tariff counties, rather than allowing cooperation and free trade. The ultimate result with China however, is just to make China speed up, and become even stronger.

[@Madison0921]

that's how US competes, they are afraid

[@SteveLu-m7b]

thats their religion, culture

[@thenycfilmer]

@@Madison0921 are you unironically rocking a swastika profile picture in 2025? you know america fought a whole war about that right?

[@jeycalc6877]

China bans more things than anybody . Banned in china - facebook, youtube, instagram, google, freedom, democracy, etc.

[@LiveWell6]

China blocks and tariffs too. Heck China blocked all the US websites and companies first.

[@HAMESHBHAI]

Amazon will start supporting Qardun Token this week

[@TySchmidt]

For anyone who doesn't understand whats going on. So far the American AI language models have all been very power intensive, and investors thought we'd need millions of high-end Nvidia GPUs to run them. Now that DeepSeek launched and is as powerful, yet can be run locally on your own PC, investors are realizing that Nvidia may not be needed as much as they had thought

[@Vangolovesart]

Thanks for that

[@humanmerelybeing1966]

It's more than that. A lot of the best models rely on CUDA, which is Nvidia's own proprietary technology. Deepseek didn't use CUDA, and they did something that those big companies (including Nvidia) would have said was impossible. So it's not just that you can get more with less Nvidia, it's that you can get more WITHOUT Nvidia.

[@KG-ii2yx]

thanks bro, but one more question, how does this relate to the US ban on Taiwanese chips for China? Does it mean China has found a way to work round that ban?

[@BGMMalaysia]

The US think powerful chips= powerful Ai, that's why. Now the game has change. Maybe they found some tweak on it.

[@R9_EXODUS]

Coinbase bought another 20 million Qardun tokens

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[@mykegoh]

The whole of US is on a damage-control mode done by a tiny Chinese company. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bobbysuazjFhvcfgh]

@@mykegoh not to mention the trillions of wealth that just got wiped off the stock market

[@willengel2458]

it wasn't even a company. it was a project funded by hedge fund CEO with some researchers and students.

[@AmjadKhan-gk9yc]

$Qardun put in everything and sell after launch

[@vivekpraseed918]

The interesting lesson is that some small startup, with very little capital, in the US can beat the best well funded ones like openAI or claude etc if they are willing to work hard and stay lean. Hence the reason for fall in stock prices. Its not about china vs US. Its about the fact that AI should not cost a bazillion dollars

[@regophil]

Well said.

[@zb2747]

EXACTLY

[@geordi-gabrielrenauddumoul449]

I hope it will make the us more competitive

[@andrewholliday251]

@@geordi-gabrielrenauddumoul449 The ruling oligarch hate competition; they're on record as advocating total monopolies - and this shows why (and who they've been rorting)

[@indiancowpeedrinker9241]

cowdung superpower

[@laxmanmurmu3333]

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[@tanyabischoff]

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[@josevega76]

Can you imagine, six million to revolutionize the world, but in South Beach, a mid to upper level sized Condo. WOW!

[@delxinogaming6046]

He misses that deepseek is open source. Google sheets is free but closed. This is closer to Apache for web, and will eventually by 100% adopted for free and part of infrastructure. All it's done is moved the value out of the compute layer (evential commodity) to the next layer (ie agents).

[@pavamchathunni]

There are a few more out there that have been released to the public in the last two days. And China will release its hardware platform with home grown chip later this year.

[@delxinogaming6046]

@ All in all, bad news for Nvidia…

[@jer1776]

China basically created the Linux or Chromium of AI models. Lots of variations will soon exist but it will be the same thing underneath.

[@skierpage]

It's certainly reduced the _value_ in the compute layer, but it's still an open question whether a $100 million data center running AI with these and other advancements will bring us much closer to AGI/ASI than competitors. A week ago the value of an expert LLM coach/partner/assistant was only $200 a month (ChatGPT Pro), because it is drunk and unreliable and needs supervision. DeepSeek just dropped cost of that junior intern. But make a reliable LLM so it can do the work of a mid-level lawyer/doctor/programmer/researcher and it's worth a _lot_ more; as Dario Amodei says imagine having lots such employees. And if open models keep up with closed then the AI won't cost as much as that job currently pays, and the economy changes dramatically. Exciting times!

[@madanmishra8852]

Several clips surfacing about Bezos and Trump talking about $Qardun at the inaguration even with mike tyson 😂

[@barryneild379]

*... and coping starts at **3:45*

[@Jonny_Smith_777]

I'm here for cope show

[@akemegbebu7807]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 these con people are hilarious

[@GTFO_0]

😭Bro le me guess it is * national security threat?

[@RowdyRowdy55]

😆😆😆

[@ritesh146]

they are huffing big on COPIUM.

[@kingvarunkumar123]

Qardun Token will go 100x after launch on Binance

[@JoginderKaur-ns5ks]

Qardun Token is easily going to hit $1 this month

[@DerronOfCairon]

China just straight up said "Yeah your government and its oligarch are lying to you. AI processing is cheap.

[@skierpage]

They weren't lying. There were open source models before last Friday like Llama 3, and the best versions took a lot of resources to train and run. Engineers made steady improvements in efficiency. This is what a breakthrough looks like. LCD TVs didn't mean anyone was lying about the existing plasma TVs being expensive. It's also possible that this is a brilliant Chinese psyop and DeepSeek R1 actually required a lot of training on black-market Nvidia chips. We won't know until somebody replicates its training.

[@nibnob9]

its super cheap when you literally steal the tech

[@skierpage]

@@nibnob9 there were literally many open source Large Language Models that anyone can freely adapt and modify before this. DeepSeek literally came up with several innovations which they have likewise published as open source. DeepSeek may have used existing LLMs to improve the its model's chatting, which would be a violation of their terms of service (that many other AI companies have done). But its paper claims that it used reinforcement learning to improve the LLM's own reasoning.

[@chadikumar4922]

ICO on Qardun is already at $54m, way too many insiders stacking up. I got my measly $400 in

[@westhypocrisy]

"U.S. institutions aren't going to shove Chinese made AI software into their cloud system" but more than 7.9 billion people in the world will - including 99.9% of people in America who are not billionaires!

[@AuerbachsPettises]

I think it's important to stick to stocks that are immune to economic policies. AI stocks that have the potential to power and transform future technologies. It seems AI is the trajectory most companies are taking, including even established FAANG companies. Maybe there are other recommendations?

[@JohnsMasterses]

I bought into NVIDIA around September last year because my financial advisor recommended it to me. She said the company is selling shovels in a gold rush. It accounted for almost 80% of my market return this year.

[@PaulsByarses]

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[@ZYTHIVIDEOS]

I have shifted to Deepseek. What about you?? Let me know

[@lakeguy65616]

What makes Deepseek special is the architecture of its model. That model/approach allows you to train bigger models with less compute. This is modestly bad for Nividia in the short run, but models will continue to get bigger. Nvidia will sell fewer GPUs in the short run, but the AI world just got better, not worse.

[@blackmantis3130]

Yeah but the American investors are worried about their money

[@lakeguy65616]

@@blackmantis3130 sure, AI chip makers have cause for worry, but the rest of the market? this is a positive for the rest of us.

[@RajDeelish]

I think you're wrong. The people disrupted are people like perplexity, open AI, and Mistral, not Nvidia. The AI we have today is still not the finish line. Even if DeepSeek showed something interesting, this is not where AI ends. We still need AI to get better and to get there you need more compute.

[@meandoctrine6639]

the problem is we don't need more gpu in few years, if we use the approach of deepseek

[@lakeguy65616]

@@RajDeelish you don't believe Perplexity, OpenAI and others will copy the architecture and code, and develop new models?

[@ahmedh3950]

US should hire a few thousand Chinese AI engineers at $500K salaries instead of betting on greedy billionaires.

[@ricomajestic]

They are treated like rock stars in China I hear. They will demand billion dollar salaries!

[@superfuss1984]

I dont think you know Chinese....🤦‍♀️

[@peterwilliams7335]

Americans are forced to buy super expensive things to support the riches at the expense, misery and suffering of American people. How come the U.S. is still freaking out when Chinese always work more for less and Americans always work less for more. Products from China have been always more affordable and with more advanced technology. That is just how Chinese system works and that is how the world, especially the developing countries are benefited from Chinese products. Just like the Chinese EVs that are more affordable and more advanced. The world benefits more from Chinese products than the ones from the super expensive and less technical advanced ones from other countries.

[@ricnyc2759]

My question is: are they going to keep the scam? One side pretending they need to spend billions of dollars to train AI and the other side pretending they have to sell billions of dollars in GPUs?

[@skierpage]

There was no pretending. Companies spent money to make incredible AI software using real chips, and the gold rush made the chips very expensive. DeepSeek has just reduced the cost of a shovel by a lot.

[@lsvaralokasf8249]

This is another Chinese contribution to humanity, after providing everything affordable to the world and making people able to enjoy the highest living standards possible, now China (again) is making AI accessible to ALL people so we the world can enjoy the highest quality of life never imagined before. Thank you China 🇨🇳

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Does he admit the Tiananmen Massacre?

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@@johnmyers6117 🤡

[@skierpage]

​@@zhc2200 Deepseek CEO Liang Wenfeng. China Talk has translated two excellent interviews with him, he seems thoughtful, humble, and dedicated. If this is a psyop/market manipulation and the Chinese government actually trained DeepSeek R1 on thousands of black market Nvidia chips, it's impressively well done!

[@skierpage]

​@@johnmyers6117 no he doesn't, nor does the DeepSeek website and app. But people can and will re-train the open source model on other data sources and without applying Chinese filtering.

[@mattparsons2]

Deepseek is to China what Sputnik was to Russia. A kick in the ass to competitors.

[@bbhrucy]

Very well said! I said the same to my wife today as I explained the situation. And consider this. What was the reaction of R.R. to Sputnik? Did the USA crash, depressed, did the USA say 'we lost the space race to Russia' ? Hell no. The same is happening now. Its a punch to Nvidia. But it will get up. What other choice it has? Is it an option for USA to stand down no and 'forget about AI'? Hell no. The AI race just started! Not only will this not bring down demand for AI, it will totally boost it. I am not worried about Nvidia.

[@jjgicano]

By making it Open Source, Deepseek is a gift to the world. It makes AI more affordable just like generic medicines did.

[@noahc6246]

It’s always been a pump scam. 40k for Blackwell chips are overpriced

[@ugensky1369]

Why tf were Chinese companies buying NVDA chips in the black market?

[@skierpage]

The chips work and are more powerful while consuming less electricity than the previous generation. No scam there. The hype meant that until last Friday companies were rewarded for beating their chests and promising to build the biggest datacenter with the most Nvidia chips. But that's real infrastructure getting built, again no scam.

[@OG-Jakey]

​@@ugensky1369Just because there is no alternative doesn't make it not overpriced. This is a monopoly.... Wait until Intel and China catches up.

[@weho_brian]

rip NVDL holders

[@dicktram5305]

I own it and will be buying more. They just upped the price target to 180. It made me rich.. and it will make me richer. great buying opportunity

[@spikey5216]

About time

[@TrickEra69]

Silicon Valley is LAUGHING IN OUR FACES TODAY.

[@itsmeGeorgina]

Ok?? For what they have managed to do during the past few years??

[@IbrahimBinHelabi-vo5ku]

It could be the opposite

[@Nontent-nm1kk]

Laughing in our faces? They are being hit with a hard reality right now. Will they pick money, or will they pick history? I think we already know this answer.

[@Rocker_124]

I saw Nvidia CEO ,Sam Altman and Mark Zuckerberg buying boxes of adult diapers at CVS today 😎

[@ricnyc2759]

Oops... The genie is out of the bottle.

[@fontomfrom]

😂😅

[@Dubya9W9]

What genie? that china isn't lying? my man go back a few years..lol remember the cough virus?

[@bannerlad01]

@@Dubya9W9log on to their website and ask it to tell you where the Covid response went wrong. You may have a change of heart about how real it is

[@999score]

Guy in Depression mode

[@Mako2401]

The AI bubble has burst

[@allyriver8941]

That was a quick run!

[@Eisenbrei]

It is the opposite! The AI arms race has begun.

[@S3V3N17]

About time , tured of ai

[@Therealltaken10]

No it hasn't

[@manuelescareno7031]

Dudes.. The Stock Market will crash in mid february. Get back at me in this comment when this happens so i can tell you guys " i told you so"

[@dkgong]

Thank you DeepSeek for allowing me to snatch up so many bargains today.

[@MysticM3800]

I wanted to spend all money before trump meet Putin & it happened

[@AlohaAloha-f2v]

I’ll come back to this one for sure

[@RoyalRook]

If you think you taking bargains after all the all time highs, then you are a freaking idiot. Do you not know how bubble works?

[@TCTALKSTCFITNESS]

😂😂💯💯

[@pureland2703]

More bargains in the next few days and weeks.

[@bannerlad01]

The issue is that if it can be done now the others will have to do it. We are on exponential curve here

[@神成子]

你都抢到什么了 分享下

[@AnimatedHistory-InCharts]

Deepseek can be replicated by US start ups. That's the danger for Nvidia not Deepseek Chinese firn.

[@keepingittight]

Ahhhhhh, NOW you understand that once you open the Pandora's box there's no going back.

[@SpiritGrown]

Yep

[@gregoryedwards9097]

Precisely. Capitalism is truly destroying this world at this point. Nothing but gatekeeping for the folks who made riches as they try to maintain their forts and fill their moats.

[@magellanmax]

There's a lot of coping going on because the big boys invested heavily in closed AI ownership & R&D and never saw an advanced open sourced AI platform eating their lunch so quickly, especially a Chinese owned one.

[@Noobmaster69_bro]

The entire media is coping while calling for a ban when it’s open source

[@jpcolindesign517]

This is a load of rubbish. AI still is a technology looking for a use. None of the LLMs have the potential to replace human labor at tasks where any level of negotiation is required, and the energy consumption for DeepSeek is still NOT sustainable without requisite advances in power production and distribution. These people are so disconnected from reality that none of them appear to be able to read the room properly. AI is going to blossom, but AGI is a pipe dream that isn't on the horizon and barely even imaginable. What DeepSeek will do is force American AI companies to fess-up on just how limited AI utility is and how idiotic AGI development is.

[@rawfromnowhere]

Red in the face, still unaware of what's hitting. Good luck broligarchs!

[@davelaws9288]

25% more taxes for the American people TAXMAN TRUMP

[@Yabado772]

So many of us Americans are in denial 😂

[@TrickEra69]

Don't Buy Back In UNTIL THEY PROVE their worth.

[@jesuisnoach]

NVIDIA makes amazing GPU's for individuals and companies. They have proven their worth, just look at their fundamentals.

[@GustavBoye-cs9vz]

@@jesuisnoach Not to mention deepseek was also trained on YOU GUESSED IT - NVIDIA CARDS!

[@jesuisnoach]

@@GustavBoye-cs9vz exactly, honestly this is just speculators who are really opportunistic.

[@RosscoAW]

This just means AI can be more ubiquitious -- which is necessary to move from capitalism to the now-inevitable future of super abundant socialism.

[@WayneClarke-n7b]

NVDA is going down to around $60 per share!

[@rikoscorpion]

DeepSeek: Happy Chinese New Year! Today 🎉

[@袍哥的文明探索]

yes，happy new year

[@Earwaxfire909]

Socrates pointed out that democracies fail because people vote for charisma not wisdom. Our stock market is playing this out. Wise experts admit they don't know and they don't feel good. The Idiocracy is strong with this one.

[@dltn42]

INVESTORS ARE ON COPIUM 😂😂😂

[@caesarsw]

my colleague commented the billions invested was not on innovation but on luxury yachts, expensive mansions, wild egoistic parties, fancy sports cars n affluence lifestyle!😢

[@JP-rk6gw]

These AI bubbles are exactly the same as IT bubbles in the early 2000. People never learned

[@nishisingh227]

So, $6 million is just the visible tip of the iceberg.

[@_Island_Boy]

Did they not watch Nvidia's keynote? Physical AI, Agentic AI, Autonomous Vehicles, and Robotics. ALL of these were mentioned in Nvidia's keynote. lol

[@Empty7able]

These people always overreact. Whether it be to the upside or downside. Nvidia is just caught in the crossfire. Sell Nvidia at your own peril!

[@WhiteMochato]

Nvidia admited Deepseek is a big changer. Some friends work for Microsoft, Apple, Google, IBM .. they are all engineers. They works only 3-4 hours per day, included the one hour bs meeting after lunch... In China, an engineer works 9/10 hours per day, he works a lot and very very efficiently. They don't make bs like in US or in Europe. They don't care about your "resumee", they take engineer, they got a formation if necessary, and they work and earn money massively. China Ceo are not spoiled kids like Musk or Zuckerberg, they are hard worker and know they have to respect the line of patriotism.

[@danaptaker]

You are all such geniouses. You know everything right after it happens.

[@tuftspic]

😂

[@blinkeu_tess01]

That's why China is no longer scared of TARIFFS...the most beautiful word 😅 China is more advance than US. Americans should travel outside of the US... they'll see US is the third world country of the first world. Technology infrastructure and transportation infrastructure are so much more advanced in Asia.

[@the0cool0guy]

DeepSeek(R1) is extremely accurate in detailed work, math and reasoning but it's worse in right-brain stuff like comprehension and judgement comparing to ChatGPT's O1(I checked using same hard questions in both).

[@bsky636]

Deepseek gave me a more nuanced analysis of Paul Celan's poetry thab ChatGpt did.

[@chaopengshen5221]

AI innovation won't stop but they don't have to cost so much and use so much energy.

[@andrewfarrell1120]

This is completely like crypto, majority don't understand the tech. It's purely being traded on by emotion more specifically FOMO and that drives the huge swings both positive and negative that you're seeing.

[@andrewholliday251]

Share market is gambling - it's always run on emotion. A rational system.....wouldn't have a share market. It's an intrinsically irrational system. Would any intelligent species base their economic wellbeing of their societies on a crapshoot?

[@awu92]

Don’t worry. US can impose tariff on DeepSeek.

[@Jonny_Smith_777]

Doesn't matter if they built it for 5mil or not, that thing is on par with o1 OpenAI model and open source. Also hugginface did cracked the numbers and it seems to be true.

[@vnshopeehuang1362]

The U.S. government and American artificial intelligence technology have completely lost. They must relearn "how to respect China." Only cooperation can bring peace to the world, not confrontation

[@rockfidelity8229]

The problem is the valuation. Nvda had a market cap of $4 trillion.

[@RajDeelish]

There's no problem there. Have you seen how much money they make per quarter?

[@alexj2869]

@@RajDeelish not needing that much gpu now.. and with chinese gpus coming out....

[@bradleywhite6815]

@@RajDeelish 35 billion a year at its best worth more than 100x their yearly profit

[@MontysKillerRabbit]

@@alexj2869 lol, don't be so gullible. These are claims. Wait for the evidence.

[@Dubya9W9]

@@bradleywhite6815 That's a quarter you Teletubby lol..

[@Felipe-n3j]

Hohoho what a funny joke…USA $500 billions AI competing against CHINA $6 millions AI …wooo not bad at all..this only shows how good brilliant young Chinese engineers ,mathematicians & scientists are in China today!😮😮😮

[@andrewholliday251]

Perhaps only $6m of that $500Bn is actually needed; so where's the rest going (assuming for a second it ever existed)?

[@SunnyFun-pu4lu]

It is now clear why they (US) are going the way of one-shot to AGI, so as to keep fast followers like China at bay. and not feed followers with performance data/capabilities of leading edge models; it is like not giving students answer keys to exams. As for fast followers, it' is always easier to optimize a known pathway or process, but it is incalculably harder to find/invent solutions at the leading edge -- the edge of unknown. What fast follower Deepseek has claimed to have done is to optimize the method to train something like the OpenAI O1. But remember that O1 is not the leading edge of AI, that model as we know is the O3 as of a few weeks ago, (which has already been shown to be a quantum leap over O1). But if Deepseek were to try and invent something like O3 , Deepseek would still need to get gigantic GPU farms to explore all spectrum of plausible solutions.

[@makhosimayisa5800]

try to invent O3 😂😂😂😂😂. wtf! Why would they need to invent O3? R1 is not an invention, it's just an improvement of what is already there. The big tech companies must lose their fake printed money and not be allowed to sell expensive AI. Anyway O3 is going to cost more than $200 per month, no one will afford it or even need it.

[@amendment1brand]

China literally just gave us the formula for what we have to do and knowing that we have better hardware makes it that much better because consolidating everything and still having the power that you do will make ours exponentially better

[@nickkarma9786]

Only one panicking are the rich corporates & investors who now can’t make money off AI ….greed begets suffering..

[@claradelgado3932]

Where is Elon MUSK NOW🤣

[@jonasbaine3538]

Hiding is Nazi basement

[@RajDeelish]

He tweeted. Go read it.

[@ngc2525]

Nazi saluting at the afd con

[@jorgeguerra5475]

Whaat did the muskrat tweet?

[@lamofaco8537]

He said he's a nazi and sucks at video games.

[@SaintMartins]

You won't hear this on Conservative media. Only 1 week of t'Rump being POTUS & the stock markets are down, food prices (eggs/dairy) & medicine (insulin) have increased, half of a billion of Government money spent on deportation of people who are just going to return again next week and t'Rump is already on vacation. You voted for this !

[@HermannTheGreat]

Smart money will be buying NVDA up today imo and laughing at all these fear based reactions within 6 months.

[@truepersona6804]

Deep Seek equals to MALA: Make America Lose Again 😂

[@peeledbanana311]

Great point about Deep Seek not being an attractive integrable tool as a result of their origin from China. All other things being equal, market share will always go to countries with better privacy and property rights. In other words, Deep Seek or any AI model will have to be OVERWHELMINGLY (3x) more useful for any temptation for widespread commercial adoption. Intellectual property is a large part of the valuation for many companies, and therefore the widespread adoption will mainly be done by retail. Even then, people from wealthier countries are skeptical of China products with access to your data.

[@aguruattapiano]

rich people are worried. I dont give a sh..

[@crazcane]

The fears should be 100% pointed to US tech companies who have basically stole billions of dollars to do something China could do for 6 Million 😂😂😂😂. Capitalism is great aint it 😅😅😅

[@brian_w]

begun the AI wars have

[@bobbysuazjFhvcfgh]

@@brian_w now that’s a war I can get behind 🤣

[@ack6668]

It's because the investors feel cheated. Buying iron for the price of gold. The only one still positive is Meta because they're open source.