Inside school where teachers carry guns

[@bestacc6245]

When you are a gunman, walking into a school and see the anti-gun signs they know it will be easy.

[@justicewarrior9187]

@BLOODOPSCAPTAIN I'm speaking of not selling them to civilians in the first place!!!

[@ericbyers9554]

Would be like shooting fish in a barrel

[@ModerateLeftist89]

@@justicewarrior9187 do you have any idea how many ways and how easy it would be for a criminal to get a gun

[@justicewarrior9187]

@@ModerateLeftist89 Europe = no shootings PERIOD

[@ModerateLeftist89]

@@justicewarrior9187 we are not in Europe we are in America the laws are different

[@NA-ck6cz]

The whole point of concealed carry is not to tell someone you have a gun...

[@itsjt9523]

Alot of people open carry where I live. I find it humerous how easy it would be to walk up behind them and yank their pistols out of the holster. Concealed carry would elimimate that factor also. Pretty much what you're saying.

[@dougersonify]

Nick Angelos more of like a beware of dog sign when you don’t have a dog. Nobody’s gonna try to attack a school of armed people.

[@NA-ck6cz]

Doomguy I think you misunderstand mass shooters. They don't care about their life. They want to kill and ruin others' lives. They expect to die during these events. Hell, someone might shoot this school up now just to prove a point.

[@dougersonify]

Nick Angelos they want to become famous and kill as many as they can. Once again a simple sign saying people are armed would save lives. My friend lives in a bad neighborhood and he put up an ADT sign. He doesn’t actually have it but nobody has been near his house since.

[@NA-ck6cz]

Doomguy Deterring thieves is quite a bit different. We're talking about deranged killers who- one again- expect to die during these events. Sometimes they even take their own lives.

[@MordechaiKarp]

No one is forcing all teachers to become the guardian of the school, to become the law enforcement, they are just advocating for them to be ALLOWED to do that if they so wish

[@pitsnpistols1005]

Agreed! I’m tired of people saying “it’s not their job” “what if a student takes the gun away” Well my sister is an anti gun teacher, but her school has two army vets I’m sure would be willing to legally carry. Think of all teachers with a military background, NRA firearm trainers and gun enthusiast who are teachers who are all willing to give it all for our kids!

[@pitsnpistols1005]

Jacob. F if your properly trained, and hold a valid CHL, after going thru the livescan, certain amount of bots training to shoot, draw and conceal so no one is aware you carry, and are mentally ready and able to stand up to defend your life and the students! If you meet all those requirement and prove you are a good moral standard individual, and can conceal to the point no one will ever know you carry, then yes! You should bring a gun to school if you’re college student, or parent picking up your kid! If not then no! You shouldn’t even own a gun!

[@yoboitim7624]

@Jacob. F so you would rather have more kids die then have teachers armed

[@andrewfriedman4972]

@John Shellman Are you of legal age to own a firearm?

[@oogboog7049]

My father is a custodian for a school and he has his carry permit the school wants him to help evacuate people he told them he wouldn’t because he isn’t armed

[@alexresendiz1084]

*bell rings* Student: "bye" Teacher: "the clock doesn't dismiss you, the glock dismisses you"

[@kyliesantiago1501]

Alex Resendiz THIS IS AMAZING

[@jul1532]

kid pulls out mac "no you bitch"

[@rayum486]

Oh my

[@LG3rain]

best comment 😂😂

[@boggless2771]

Now thats how a teacher gets respect!

[@mriphone1000]

Yeah lady let's rely on a team of armed police that wait outside while the shooting happens, that actually what they did, look it up. Fire them all.

[@firefire7529]

How can you rely on a teacher to take a life in their already stressful job against a professional???

[@dznArro]

Bullion Forever let’s rely on a teacher that has to worry about grades, bad students , home life , not enough resources to either protect our students or to not shoot at students??

[@firefire7529]

Yes I agree, there should be some form of protection, but giving them to teachers who already have a stressful job, and taking a life???? No. This can cause more shootings as it is more accessible to students and the teacher! Even when a person does come to cause harm, most likely have superior equipment and such. Teachers are humans, you can't rely on them to take on the job of going head-to-head with a highly-equipped professional meaning harm, even if he is so evil, teachers are humans and might not even want to take the life.

[@firefire7529]

It is extremely stressful to have to even arm yourself with a gun, nevertheless to kill someone. Teachers are there to teach, not to protect his students, how can a firearm protected go against a highly-equipped professional. It can be, because teachers should only teacher, they happen to forget to lock up the gun, they get under stress and mess up concealing it, and one mistake puts all that pressure on the teacher. Not only that, if they snap or something, they have access to a weapon, might not be common but can happen.

[@firefire7529]

We were having a decent argument and you choose to insult??? wow, insults don't get stuff done. I don't think you got my point, it is very stressful to have to own a gun and keep it safe from others when it gets closer to the students, if you make one mistake, either with concealing it or properly keeping it away from the students. Not only that but how will we know that the teacher knows exactly what to do? and that his fear or emotion won't interfere with someone who is completely superior in equipment and training. No matter how hard you train a teacher, You can't do it enough to before it interferes with teaching. I'm sorry but arming teachers for me just doesn't work, maybe trained officials on ground yes, but this issue just came up, we are still trying to solve it.

[@ericlopez7120]

“I don’t believe teachers should be armed. I feel like teachers should teach.” Like the coach who caught twenty bullets trying to protect his kids? What was the lesson there?

[@nicholashelms2395]

The lesson was you cant fight guns without guns.

[@royalteluis623]

KZbin Admin teacher try’s to smack gunman with ruler . Teacher: gets head blown off

[@grizzlygaming8387]

That's harsh, if a school shooting ever happened the teachers do not even have a chance to protect themselves and the students.

[@PorchPerspectives]

@@nicholashelms2395 unless your an anime protagonist

[@tonysudano778]

Don't be a hero. Was the lesson.

[@CarbonGlassMan]

So she doesnt' want teachers armed because they have law enforcement. Even though the law enforcement did nothing here and the ones that did go into the school showed up after the shooting was over and the shooter had escaped the school.

[@kokomine578]

GunsNpolitics Exactly.

[@NeoRipshaft]

Yeah, almost like additional measures are required to prevent the situation from happening in the first place. Unfortunately we have no data to support a policy that would accomplish that eff... wait what... *_every_* other country you say? oh.

[@haltekle]

GunsNpolitics instead of arming teachers, why not make assault weapons illegal. America is not a war zone( more weapons is not the answer)

[@CarbonGlassMan]

Because assault weapon is a made up term that politicians and the media use to fool people who don't know anything about guns into feeling safe if they ban my hunting rifle. The AR15 is used to kill MAYBE 50 people a year. Meanwhile, there are about 8,000 handgun murders a year. As far as school shootings, the same body count can be had with any shotgun or handgun. Virginia Tech seen 32 people killed with a 9mm and a 22lr handgun. The 22 handgun only held 10 rounds. The 9mm only 15 rounds. Still 5 fewer rounds than 1 magazine in an AR15, yet 17 people dies here and 32 dies at Virginia Tech. Fort Hood had 13 killed by 1 man with 1 handgun. So why ban an AR15? To make know-nothings feel better? I don't think so.

[@CarbonGlassMan]

ANd MORE weapons seems to be the answer every time a pharmacy is robbed. They hire an armed security guard and the robberies stop. Court houses have armed guards. No mass shootings there. NRA conventions have armed people there. No mass shootings there. Gun shows have armed people. No mass shootings there. Museums have armed guards. No mass shootings there. State houses have armed guards. No mass shootings there. Armored trucks seem to think the answer is more weapons. They do make the driver and the money hauler carry more guns than they would if they took your advice and remained unarmed. What the hell is wrong with you people? You want the kids left defenseless because you're not use to hearing that there are guns in a school. Even though there use to be guns at every school. Back then, there were no mass shootings at schools.

[@user-xs7fg3hb1j]

I want this in my school

[@etves]

We have known that in the UK for ages and when we get armed teachers it will stop the one school shooting we have had in 3o years if you have less crime i guess you have not had any school shootings at all

[@powers_media]

found the bot

[@Rc-Adventurers]

Yes, Yes! I’m a teacher and every day parents drop off their children to us and expect that their child is safe when they pick them up at the end of the day. What am I supposed to do when a shooter comes in my building say please mean man don’t shoot. I conceal carry legally every day but I have to leave my gun in the car every day. I would pay for training classes out of my miserable pay check to protect your child. Instead I’m supposed to hope that Mr. Police man get to YOUR school before YOUR PRECIOUS CHILD IS MURDERED! That is a FACT! Drive one day from your school until you find a police car. That’s how long it would take for them to get to the school. Would your child survive?

[@tarawriste2101]

D. O'H thank you for your dedication to your kids at school. It’s very admirable. I would happily pay for my sons teacher to get a permit and even give her a gun if the school allowed and I would not worry about my son while he was at school. You’re right. Parents do trust the school to protect their children. I wish the government didn’t tie their hands. Before guns were banned from schools there were several cases of threats called into schools and those awesome teachers sat at the doors armed and shooter never showed. PS you guys deserve raises!!!

[@salmonline]

p.s - please tell me you morons at least understand you aren't the only ones with guns...lol...

[@RickZackExploreOffroad]

It's just common sense. We have hardened airports, sporting venues, malls, banks and government buildings. Why? Because they have proven to be targets. Yet when it comes to children's safety we proudly proclaim they are not protected by posting inane "gun free zone" signs. It is so basic that it leads one to believe that the anti-gun crowds want dead children.

[@RickZackExploreOffroad]

salmon - so you have the power to un-invent gunpowder? If larger, faster, stronger person comes at you with a knife or club you can defend yourself? Before firearms the world was controlled by the biggest baddest warrior, that was life before firearms. Less guns does not mean less death. The murder rates in Europe have not improved since they started to ban weapons. In many cases they have gotten worse. Guns actually save lives in the US, between 500,000 to 2.5 million times a year with only 2% actually involve discharging the weapon. Before you buy into the unicorn filled fantasy world of no guns maybe you should clear out your bias and learn the facts. www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3izhox4mK2sisU&lc=z22tsfe43kyqij32dacdp43bdksmysnujunxknoygilw03c010c.1522327383431912&feature=em-comments reason.com/blog/2018/04/20/cdc-provides-more-evidence-that-plenty-o

[@Rc-Adventurers]

salmonline you’re an idiot. Criminals will always have guns

[@kermitthetoad9093]

Teachers should be allowed to carry. Sometimes the police can't get to the shooter before its too late.

[@PinkPisces]

Kermit The Toad or they refuse to go in and get him

[@proximityfilms2185]

Kermit the Toad key word”sometimes” most of the time they wait outside

[@tophergauruder3647]

Thank you! The National average response time of The police department is 15 minutes 19 seconds, the average response of a Glock 19 is about 15 minutes and 3 seconds faster.

[@icanphotosynthesize1962]

So by what you are saying, school shootings are a norm to america, which really isn't a good thing. Also, what if a teacher goes rogue, along with other teachers, and orchestrate a coinciding school shooting, that could happen at anytime. I have a question. What kills people in gun related deaths? The gun. And what is available to the public? Guns. And if school shootings are increasing at an alarming rate, wouldn't it be reasonable and obvious to ban guns?

[@markwalker6692]

@@icanphotosynthesize1962 Teachers can go rogue whether or not they are carrying a gun in school or not. Do you not realize they can just buy guns anyways?? Banning guns doesn't work because we already have over 350 million guns and criminals dont follow the laws and get there guns illegally so all banning it would do it stop law abiding people from protecting themselves from criminal who get guns regardless of the law.

[@beastypie99]

Gun control will not impact the homicide rate. Decrease*

[@SerangelROM]

Yes it will, that rate will climb due to law abiding citizens making themselves vulnerable to those to don't obey laws. Australia is a prime example.

[@HangOutwithMalorn]

Serbian War Criminal Yet Australia is still doing amazing with gun control. Knives aren't even comparable.

[@benmartin6476]

beastypie99 Of course it will effect the crime rate! It will go up because criminals won't have any reservation anymore

[@meldelgado462]

Exactly

[@dakotathornburg4080]

beastypie99 Gun control will affect homicide actually homicide will go up if school shooting happen with armed teachers because homicide is different from murder homicide is killing someone in self defense and murder is not

[@01gtbdaily30]

Teachers in life or death situations have thrown themselves in front of students time and time again. They will use a firearm to protect themselves and their students because they have an emotional attachment . The coward who refused to act in Florida had no such attachment .

[@goomni72]

Since schools were made gun free zones in the U.S. with the Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1990, school shootings have become 13 times more prevalent.

[@michaelmacdonell2942]

Yup. We had a similar thing here with the smoking ban in public areas...since then thousands of people have died of cancer. What do, huh?

[@TheKoris68]

"My glock holds 15, let's start SUBTRRAAACTIIIINNGG!"

[@LG3rain]

TheKoris68 best comment 😂!

[@maryeliza1985]

Kid: breaks in Janitor: sup (loads glock intensively)

[@xxnike0629xx]

As scary as it might seem to some, if you logically think about it, it's good to have some teachers to be armed. But for those individuals, I think they should be evaluated on their competence and mental stability every 6 ~ 12 months. It's good that they have at least some form of training every year. If an incident does occur, it's good to know that there will be adults that have firearms to defend the students and other staff members in the school. Having a sign in the front of the school informing that there are some staff members that is armed. It's definitely a deterrent for anyone brazen enough to think that trespassing into a school with the intention of harming/killing people. However, another alternative is to hire armed security guards that are trained, and go through re-evaluation/mental health assessment every 6 ~ 12 months. If they go that route, teachers will not bear the burden of having to defend the school if there's an incident. Firearms are a scary thing, but you cannot let that keep you from a potential shooting incident; especially these days when unfortunately it's becoming more common and measures are not being put into place to prevent them (well not often enough IMO) and instead it's more of a reaction situation even though in schools they go through things like fire drills, terrorist attack drills, etc.

[@countryfamilyalways7280]

xxnike629xx The sign should say SOME it should say OUR STAFF IS ARMED WITH FIREARMS period !

[@haltekle]

Why not go to the root of the problem and fix it. reasonable gun control, ban assault weapons from all, strengthen Obama/Trump care/Mental care, universal background check etc. If more weapon is the answer American would already had been the safest place on earth ( the fact is the opposite ).... Also as long as our politician accept money from NRA this will continue to happen ( they need to get off NRA's pocket )

[@haltekle]

You are right I would not trust teachers. Not sure why they can go to the root of the problem and fix it. No weapon of war if there is no war.

[@ryanestes7331]

Hal Tekle "assualt weapons" don't cause very much crime in America. They arnt more deadly than any other semi auto hunting rifle which won't be banned. It's a bandaid that just makes u feel safe.

[@veedee4860]

For the most part I agree with you, minus the part "firearms are scary". Firearms don't have minds of their own. They just don't snap and become psychotic. It's the persons behind the firearm which can be scary.

[@colburn888]

Armed staff = No active attackers. Deterrence is key & preparedness is safety.

[@y_us_12]

Ufff. It is a hard question if a teacher would be able to stop a killer. But there is no doubt, if a killer got into school, it is better to have a gun than not to have one.

[@independentvoter9561]

MY school had armed guards, we still had incidents of extreme violence...i wish they had just removed the thugs and idiots who had NO desire to learn . Would have been simpler

[@independentvoter9561]

Mike P - I'm pro 2nd amendment and was a dues paying NRA member for nearly 2 decades..im only saying that "security" alone won't help..its a complex issue

[@Anon-qp3kt]

Mike P How can law enforcement detain anyone that hasn't done anything wrong?

[@orppranator5230]

independent voter schools have a incentive to give an education to as many kids as possible, not make the education of kids as best as possible.

[@DivineHyperion]

Orppranator and now you know why the US education sucks. Isn't te US the land of the free? Why force kids who don't want to be in school stay? They're better off being used for labor, drug guinea pigs, cannon fodder, cocksleeves etc. They sure will be happier that way.

[@boblee9554]

guns in a school is like home security at your house it will drastically reduce the number of break ins but wont stop all of them

[@loquayrocks]

if we were to follow the logic that a shooter won't enter if they know there's an armed person inside, why doesn't it stop them when they can't be sure? Remove the guns in the first place and no one has to worry.

[@kokomine578]

Bob Lee You're right, it won't stop them completly but it will decrease the shootings atleast.

[@dozog]

The asian Gangsta GSF4LIFE. Definitely. More guns means less shooting.

[@orion7873]

There is no way to stop all bad things... all we can do is try.

[@boblee9554]

loquayrocks yeah then they can return with a sword or car or a bomb

[@robertogurrola7465]

My school had a teachers with guns, now the school didn't know that but the students who did felt safe. Nothing better than a Vietnam Vet with a gun as your teacher.

[@erynncollier8672]

True. You don't get a more trained individual than a former service member.

[@fakenews6133]

Putting all that expensive training to good use.

[@etves]

We have known that in the UK for ages and when we get armed teachers it will stop the one school shooting we have had in 3o years if you have less crime i guess you have not had any school shootings at all

[@thetacogamer500]

Hm, go Texas for doing what we need to do

[@slashfromtx4816]

TheTacogamer500 we Texans kno what stops a bad guy with a gun!!

[@GoblinAttacForce]

TheTacogamer500 I live in Houston Texas

[@limitless304]

TheTacogamer500 move here it's fun😂

[@breakfastsquad9871]

@Klack Koaster But Japan also has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, so...

[@mikhalize]

Everyone will behave differently in such a high stress scenario. That is why training is important. Yet, look how the teachers reacted, they stood in the path of bullets knowing they would die, and did it anyway...damn straight they can return fire. If a teacher doesn't want to carry, great, another will. You only need a few to stop these cowards. Let's not treat these murderers as if they are well trained killers; they are cowards.

[@simonli4484]

Ace The Cosmo a coward? Are you kidding me? A teacher’s job is to teach, not to fear for him/her and his/her students.

[@polishtheturdmickelson5473]

Michael White, I agree with you. The 30 or 40 comments I have read so far were horrible. That teachers need to get mental health evaluations every 6 months. Most teachers love their students and would die trying to save them from harm.

[@eavening4149]

polishtheturd mickelson, there are always the outliers, in the student and teacher populations. All teachers that I know are brilliant caring and highly dedicated to their students. But there are bad teachers that exist and appear in the news assaulting their students, cussing them out, mentally and physically abusing them and eventually sometimes being arrested...I would like a system that would ALSO PREVENT a gun being in that type of person's hand, mentally unbalanced students and teachers. I think class and school size cause this social friction, overcrowding schools.

[@simonli4484]

@Republican Pro Life supporter you are so naive it’s hilarious

[@ryanwebb3372]

As a former high school student IN the Atlanta public school system I can confidently say our resource officers never once tried to get to know us or form a relationship with us. The teachers are the ones who truly feel emotionally attached to us and quote on quote love us and I would much rather trust them in saving my life over a resource officer who has no idea who I am. Of course the officers care about us but they are no way as emotionally connected to the students as the teachers that bond with us every single day. I would feel much safer if teachers were able to have a concealed weapons not only because of the fact that they have that emotional attachment to us, but also because they are with us every minute of the day and will protect us in need of action.

[@alexabeyta3808]

Well this aged well

[@cashmoney1918]

Just admit that more guns= less crime !!!

[@cashmoney1918]

PotatoEskimos If you want to give away your rights then go for it and I respect that but don’t tell me to give my rights. Australia has more guns now that when they ban them. EU has way more guns. Don’t think that a gun ban is going to help. I lived in places that have lots of “gun control” they are not good places to live. Guns are not the problem, people are.We just want some thing to blame. not to mention the media being super exited by these type of news. Boy it seams they love it!

[@fakenews6133]

PotatoEskimos And you have zero evidence that that is because of guns. London has a higher homicide rate than even New York, and they dont even allow butter knives.

[@justicewarrior9187]

Come to Europe No guns no shootings Who would have thought!

[@liberalbias4462]

@@GalaxyStar99 I'd rather have a Madman with a knife chase me and I'm mad man with a gun.

[@marcosmedina6940]

Just admit less criminals= less crimes

[@adriandamos5416]

I grew up in a private school where most of our teachers have guns and were licensed to carry them. Nothing ever happened a few break ins in the parking lot but we were safe. Nothing bad happened and I was safe and so was the rest of the students.

[@powers_media]

I don't believe you

[@michaelmcaninch6687]

Seems more like we need to worry about 4 armed law enforcement standing outside while kids being murdered. These teachers love these kids cops could give a shit that's pretty obvious. Let teachers protect there kids.

[@WesselSprouts09]

Yes

[@Dbm_-oe7zv]

Oh no! A certified and trained teacher that has a .0000000001 percent chance to go on a rampage in a school!!! We need to stop this because everyone is a school shooter, not just the crazy.

[@jesusismyking4070]

Dman Boarding I seriously hope that’s sarcasm.

[@dadrumma8608]

+crystal murray I seriously hope that your doubt over the OP's sarcasm is sarcasm.

[@Doomman213]

crystal murray if a teacher wanted to kill a bunch of kids they could anyways

[@GoblinAttacForce]

Teacher: you are dismissed by the glock not by the clock

[@justingammon1163]

This is what needs to be done. Welcome to reality.

[@michaelmacdonell2942]

A reality where Buy Guns is the only thing Americans can say? Where a child's life is worth less than a round of ammunition? Buy Guns!

[@michaelmacdonell2942]

Israelis are not the same as Americans. And which bit (of the chokehold over the American Legislature that the NRA has, despite the deaths of kids, AND the few concessions the NRA have allowed) is it that makes my sarcasm untrue?

[@michaelmacdonell2942]

Less gun control. More Self control

[@powers_media]

welcome to insanity, jackass

[@803Danny]

Teacher: I said where is my homework!

[@rojanvaidya]

I wish I had a teacher with a gun so I feel protected

[@benmartz3405]

Sawyer rd elementary has been armed for 15 years! Why is this so new to everybody.? After collumbine atlanta area school teachers started secretely packing. You would be stupid not too. North atlanta high teaches rifelery with its own indoor range for students.

[@gabrielrodriguez6333]

Teachers dont just teach. They protect and nurture the most precious part of society. And saying that teachers should stick to teaching and not protect is similar to saying parents should just parent their kids and not protect. Honestly extremely glad that school has protection to that degree unlike mine. Its beatiful these teachers care enough for these children. ❤

[@henryc1000]

1:59 this is nothing but common sense! I’m surprised that CNN actually decided to report that this school has a program where teachers can conceal carry.

[@badboje6040]

Thing is, I do think this would actually work. Can't imagine a shooting happening here.

[@bltefft]

I taught science in public school for 30 years and then spent 10 more years teaching in the nursing department at the local technical college because I was an Army medic - I finally retired back in December of 20017. In all my career, I've never had to deal with an armed intruder, but I can imagine how helpless I'd be if one came into my classroom. If I was asked to carry a weapon, I would, but I can guarantee you that know one but me, the principal and department head would know that I was carrying - I dang sure wouldn't flaunt it. Obviously no one knows how'd they react if they were placed in a situation where they had to defend themselves, their colleagues and their students from an armed intruder, but being armed, trained and confident, would still be better than facing an armed intruder when you were not armed - maybe I could throw a book at the bad guy - NOT!

[@MrMoon-en8og]

Imagine a school shooter comes In and you blast him to another universe, those kids would consider you the most bad ass person who ever walked the face of the earth.

[@yeahcool2377]

-school shooting in a school with armed teachers -teachers pull out guns to protect themselves -swat team bursts in school to stop shooting, doesn’t know who is who -swat team sees teacher with gun -unnecessary civilian casualty

[@JsGarage]

It’s not about turning teachers into public safety officers. It’s about giving teachers the tools to save lives in the tragic event they might need to. It’s about allowing teachers in these scenarios to not be unarmed sheep and defend themselves and others in these horrific events. You don’t conceal carry to be a police officer you conceal carry for life assurance.

[@powers_media]

no it's not. It's about solving a gun problem with... more guns. absolutely a disaster waiting to happen

[@boo6799]

During the parkland shooting, less deaths would have occurred if Aaron, Scott or Christopher had a firearm. These where all three teachers that went towards the building or were already in it to protect the students. They were absolutely defenceless. What can you do other than wait until the police turn up or the gun fire stops? You have to rely on the shooter stopping or being shot dead. There is no defence. One thing I learned from self defence videos is that no one is coming to save you, even if you have rang the police you have only got yourself and a firearm would be 100% helpful in not only making you confident and safe but becoming an equalizer against a threat. Security doesn't matter, the shooter will shoot them dead like they will anyone in their line of sight. Firearms are not the issue, do they magically fly into a building and start pressing the trigger or does an actual human do it?

[@tonyj7636]

More disingenuous arguments. Guns are prevalent in our culture. Many teachers already have guns. Noone is saying arm teachers who don't want to be armed. Let them be the victims you want them to be. Allowing teachers who want to use every tool available to them to protect our kids and providing them with the extra training to work as a team is all that is being asked. That will not detract from their ability to teach.

[@iy4d665]

"I said turn to page 47!"

[@brianduran9145]

As as college student at a school that allows for students to concealed carry, I feel 10000000% safer knowing there are law abiding citizens with firearms on my classes. Guns are a tool for self defense. As we saw in Florida, security personnel and police generally don’t have the fastest response time. If there is ever an active shooter at my campus, the nearest police station is 5-10 miles away. They won’t be there instantly with a task force to stop the threat in seconds. In terms of the teachers, he’ll yeah let them carry. The proposal is just that... a proposal to allow teachers that want to carry to carry. They don’t want to force untrained and uncomfortable employees to carry handguns, they want the ones that want to carry to have the opportunity to exercise their constitutional right to carry. If one of my professors that is an avid shooter and concealed carries outside of school wants to carry in class and protect her students, then HELL YEAH. Provide additional training to the teachers and make them undergo specific accuracy and firing under stress tests. That’s just my stance. If you have a response besides “fuck you” I’d love to have a real intelligent conversation about it.

[@Jason-zp4ly]

A controlling teacher with a gun is worse than a controlling cop with a gun.

[@rambovader9004]

"Dark Message that greets you at the door" wtf CNN

[@wolfy1987]

Its CNN, pretty sure we all know what to expect from them

[@alexwithanova7886]

I hope and wish my school has arned teachers

[@polishtheturdmickelson5473]

I hope the do too very soon, THEOLDKING2003. I watched a video on ABC news where this is taking place. They have a sign out front stating that some teachers are armed. Good luck to you in your life.

[@Zuriki_]

Hey america, you want your people safe ? Ban guns. but oh I forgot: money

[@psilo6594]

Ivium ???

[@Zuriki_]

MORE GUNS

[@CHaas-bn3xi]

+Ivium hell yes at least those kids will have a chance to live if something Is to happen.

[@BurnDuration]

I went to Virginia Tech. The police didn't fire a single round, and WAITED outside while the shooting occurred. Cho had two pistols and that's it. Blacksburg PD had vests, M4's, shotguns and long guns--but DID NOT breach the building. At the end of the day, officers are human beings with the same fears and self preservation responses we all have.

[@AnimeFan_2013]

I've actually had the thought of schools having armed teachers back in my high school days, but I never shared my thought cause I was thinking it will more than likely be rejected

[@chachachaboomska4836]

Primary role of an educator is to enrich lives not take lives..tsk

[@BaronVonTacocat]

Primary role of an educator is to brainwash children with Common Core propaganda not educate..tsk

[@michaelmacdonell2942]

Q.E.D.

[@Seeker386]

This lady had no common sense and has no answers. "Police officers are trained...." THEY JUST SAID the police stood outside the building while the shooting happened! You may be willing to take that risk with your kids, lady; not mine!

[@ashermargotat5418]

Arming teachers is a great idea because we can all see that the police force takes time to think before they act and d urging that time, the shooter is in the building massacreing people. If teachers are armed the shooter will no longer focus on shooting innocent people but try to find out who is shooting at them and protect themselves. This is the greatest country on earth that comes up with some of the greatest solutions in society, it is also a super stubborn nation and that is why it is so hard to actually put those solutions into affect.

[@jakinchan8495]

The shooters are prepared to die. They wil not defend themselves

[@ashermargotat5418]

Jakin Chan ok well the armed person would still take out the active shooter whether or not they are willing to protect themselves or die.

[@alen_g1662]

+asher margotat yep

[@alen_g1662]

+Jakin Chan that's a pretty stupid thing to say

[@superdavedfw]

I think arming teachers is a great idea. It certainly wouldn't be alright for every teacher of course. Criminals and mass shooters tend to like "gun free zones".

[@michaelmacdonell2942]

Ideas like this seem drawn to thought-free zones. Coincidence?

[@andrewmartinez8340]

They should have a school therapist to make sure the teachers are mentally sound at least. Remember the postal worker shootings? Who's to say this won't happen at a school

[@cameronsmith1439]

Seems like a good idea to me. Have good guys already on the inside rather then having to wait for authorities to arrive or having incompetent deputies not do anything.

[@GrimAsythes]

I love how people claiming that teachers could have mental break downs and kill the childern think so low of our educators.

[@Danker1248]

@clack_j late reply, but if the guns are inside safes that could only be opened via a button in the front office, teachers can’t get to them to threaten students but they are readily and easily accessible when an attacker gets in the school

[@Danker1248]

@clack_j you forget that criminals exist, 96% of mass shootings happen in no gun zones proving that criminals target people they know arent armed. taking guns away would literally not stop anything

[@roylogan51298]

I think as long as they are confident and willing to carry I don't think it is a problem at all

[@calvinfarrow3819]

Hell yes! Texas does it right once again!

[@Lightning_Wolf567]

There is a school in my home town which used to be plagued with criminals who brought in guns, knifes, etc. and used them on people they were beefing with. Dozens of students were killed inside the school in one year. So the school decided to add metal detectors and place a few cops around the building along with some responsible armed staff. Since then there has never been another person shot or stabbed in the school because it is hard to get a weapon in the school and on the rare occasions when someone has sneaked their weapon in the cops or staff put a stop to it before anything happens. This is proof that responsible citizens with guns can and will stop criminals.

[@naturaltigressajay3291]

Putting guns into an environment where kids are around is bot good either way

[@mrhoffame]

3:38 Conversation. Ask this lady..... Now imagine you have the ability to see into the future by 1 minute. So you see a school shooting about to happen in 60 second starting in Mrs. Jones home room. If YOU WANT..you can magically appear and give Mrs. Jones a gun and magically fill her head with 2 years of training 1 minute before the shooting starts in her class...or you can say "I'm not going to do that because Mrs. Jones should just be focusing on teaching only so the shooter is going to enter your room, but you guys just need to wait for trained law enforcement". Would she really do that? Here is one question I would love to ask each person that has been in a shooting...if someone could have instantly trained you and handed you a gun 30 seconds before your shooting began...would you have taken it or refused the training and the firearm?

[@salmonline]

cowards can't see the future, fool. just stop, already, coward.

[@biruss]

salmon uae reason

[@gennymikel4296]

Two years of training is not necessary.. If you had a clue about gun ownership you would know better.

[@oofin7868]

@@salmonline 20,000 of those are suicides. besides, at least 500,000 people are saved per year by guns. please research before you respond.

[@elocore1702]

@@salmonline prove what you said then please come back

[@bigbywolf6470]

i understand how some teachers dont want to carry a gun and it shouldn't all of a sudden be up to them to fight an armed gunmen i suggest we start having trained armed guards and metal detectors in our schools we have those at our airports and banks why not our schools it would be the best option to stop an armed gunmen and there are plenty of veterans out there who would love to be granted the job of protecting are countries future that is how we stop school shootings it really is the best and only option

[@interfilamentar413]

I'm actually on the gun control side, but I need to pokes holes in this one since making metal detector checkpoints means redesigning the schools. Many school would have to be rebuilt to make this work. Then, you get into the problem that schools already feel like prison to a lot of kids, and this would make it worse. It sounds stupid I know but this would make kids feel more unsafe than the conceal carry option even if it actually made them more safe. On the other hand I am worried about an increase in teachers shooting kids if the conceal carry thing was put in place.

[@Dylan-cp3rr]

It might be a good short term solution if school shotings carry on but in the end it does not get rid of the problem the only way is strict gun control or no guns at all

[@stfducky489]

Interfilamentar at lest if it is a teacher we would have the name and not look through a database that may not have finger print or dna, to find a name

[@stfducky489]

Simulatedletsplays no guns means only criminal and officer would have them. have you seen the difference between the too? i am having a hard time figuring out if officer are protecting or harassing

[@interfilamentar413]

@stfducky489 "database that may not have finger print or dna, to find a name" That's easy, microchip ID at birth. :-) Joking aside, I've had many public school teachers in my life I would not trust with a gun, people who seemed to hate their job, students and their life. The type I wouldn't be surprised if the were involved in a murder suicide. But, the more I think about it, odds are a teacher like that would be more likely to murder their peers, like other staff at the school than students they already have ample control over. Still I did some math and while 30% of american's claim to own guns, and 95% own a car, yearly total deaths per year are almost the same. That means a gun owner 3.5 times more likely to be involved in a human death than a car owner, and I already think car death is needlessly high. So, I have some serious concerns about increasing the number of gun owners. My favorite option A would be total disarmament, buyback programs, checkpoints, raids, immigration control. I know it's more expensive, but it's a short purge that free future generations from this problem and responcibility. My second option that I would support but don't like would be to make owning and training with a gun mandatory. Like jury duty to have everyone required by law to have and train with a firearm unless they can make a case for why they should be excused for the responsibility. Now, there's a problem with the second option in that it would drive mass murderers to more extremes like setting traps since they know most people are armed, and then we'd be living in a country with bomb sniffing dogs everywhere.

[@Impactyt]

They should hire a security guard with guns

[@rasheededwards198]

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[@axelinghdh572fbxndhdhjsd9]

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[@user52019]

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[@axelinghdh572fbxndhdhjsd9]

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[@rasheededwards198]

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[@axelinghdh572fbxndhdhjsd9]

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[@tubetop123]

The solution is to slow down the attacker to allow 911 to be called and arrive. So having a security guard outside to be the first shooting target for the attacker is the solution. Sorry he's gonna be a decoy but once the first shots are fired, school staff or students will immediately call 911. Lockdown etc. That gives the school a higher probability of success.

[@billwang8502]

This is a horrible idea.

[@billwang8502]

edthehead916 Also just saying if a school has 1000 students the chance of you being shot or killed is very low. In the florida shooting only 17 people died with a overall school population of 1000. Thats a 0.017% chance of being killed. That is VERY low.

[@hanson582ify]

That is not low at all.

[@billwang8502]

edthehead916 What if the teacher isnt mentally well??? What do you do then???

[@kermitthetoad9093]

BillW17 your saying that you'd rather have unarmed teachers defend against shooters because you think that the teacher might be the next shooter? Dumb fucker

[@billwang8502]

Domino thats very low.

[@phoophop8167]

When's the last time you saw or heard of an "active shooter" situation at a military school/ROTC facility ... He'll, we had a live fire range underground at my old high school ... Weapons stored on site. Never an issue.

[@chrishansen4698]

The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun

[@Westcountrynordic]

Until it happens no one knows how they will cope when faced with a person carrying semi-automatic gun. It also depends where the gun is and how fast the "good guy" with gun reacts. If the person with a gun is a student or ex student won't they know which teacher is armed? and then plan any shooting around that knowledge. When the police arrived how do they know who the good guys with a gun are?

[@SkorpioVenom]

You're right, nobody knows how they will cope. But it's better to be prepared to defend the students than to let them become target practice. Also you say "semi-automatic gun" as if there's some easily accessible alternative. Pretty much every gun you encounter is semi, full auto's require mountains of paperwork, taxes, and licensing to even obtain. When you have multiple armed teachers, it doesn't matter if their aim is good or bad. In an empty hallway with one target and 5 people shooting at him, hes going to get hit. The point of concealed carry is that only the administration knows who the armed teachers are. Plus in the event of a shooting, they're most likely going to go looking for him rather than wait. It would also make sense that the guns are kept in something like a safe unless they are necessary, so no risk of a student getting a hold of it. Its pretty easy to pick out who the teachers are in a school. There will also be multiple staff members to inform the police of who the shooter is. Do you think they just walk into these situations blind and start shooting everything that moves?

[@user-ve8ry1xw8v]

Johan Mahoney-Berg the majority of firearms are semi atuo.

[@noodleooodle4098]

when i was a bit younger i had quite a different opinion about this but now i actually agree that teachers should carry guns. i would feel alot safer if every teacher carried. like whats the chance that your teacher is gonna pull a gun on you. besides its a lot better to arm teachers than the plan we have now for armed invaders... pile up in the corer to become easier targets for the shooter.

[@thothheartmaat2833]

The resource officers at our school just checked our IDs and patted us down like we were all suspects... I don't know if they loved us...

[@DDD21.]

Crazy Times , Thank God i life in Germany. here happens also crazy Things but nothing compare to the U.S.

[@beatricekarbaumer-jones6514]

Ich bin Lehrerin i.R. und habe die meiste Zeit in den USA unterrichtet. Egal ob Schule oder Uni, es gab immer wieder Schiessereien und man trainierte ständig für den Ernstfall. Über die Jahre ist es nur noch schlimmer geworden, da der Zugang zu Waffen immer leichter wurde. Wo soll das nur hinführen, wenn man die offensichtliche Lösung nicht annehmen will. Durch Ignoranz und Habgier macht sich das Land selbst kaputt.

[@DDD21.]

Wenn man sich vorstellt das jeden Tag in den Usa wieder so etwas oder noch viel schlimmeres passieren könnte und man dann als Lösung vorschlägt die Lehrer zu bewaffnen fällt mir ehrlich gesagt nix mehr ein ,die News kommen einen vor wie aus einem surrealen Film , Die Waffenhersteller lachen sich kaputt weil jetzt noch mehr Waffen verkauft werden und die armen Eltern zittern jeden Tag um das Leben ihrer Kinder . Herzlichen Glückwunsch Land der unbegrenzten Möglichkeiten.

[@ancapsnek]

I'm glad you live in Germany , too!

[@mrhoffame]

The key to remember is that we DO NOT want teachers to be Law Enforcement!!! What we need is for Teacher to be trained and equipped to handle holding/ hopefull scare off a shooter for 7-8 minutes until law enforcement actually arrives. We are not training them for drug bust, traffic stops, domestic violence, etc. Just techniques and tools on how to apply pressure back towards a shooter to prolong their survival time until law enforcement arrives. I mean I'm a UFC fan. I will NEVER be able to stand and fight with those guys and not get slaughtered. I couldn't learn what it takes to be an all around fighter at this stage in life....but....if you spend the next two years teaching me JUST how to defend a round house kick...I bet I can be pretty dam effective at ONLY having to defend a round house kick. I could do a descent job at that. That to me is what is being said...let's not make teachers LAW ENOFROCEMENT/ complete UFC fighters. Let's teach a few of them how to just defend a round house kick and survive it for 7-8 minutes.

[@mattyice5290]

mrhoffame not to hate but your analogy was terrible that’s not the same thing what so ever

[@Zuriki_]

Hey america, you want your people safe ? Ban guns. but oh I forgot: money

[@mattyice5290]

Ivium lmao ur an idiot why even comment such nonsense

[@salmonline]

no thanks.

[@willcardwell5193]

mrhoffame this is only happening in rural areas in Texas which have no local police department so for them it's reasonable

[@muddy_armadillo]

Something that's not being brought up, just knowing that there are guns in the building may be enough to deter a shooter.

[@ericbyers9554]

Thats Why terrosts go soft targets

[@res5878]

this is so ridiculous that i want this to be implemented right away! i like america to destroy itself. KEEP GOING AMERICA! YOU HAVE MY TRUST.

[@misterhamsandwich]

Back to school supply list: 1. Glue 2. Crayons 3. Pencils 4. Ak-47 5. Tape 6. Notebooks 7. 2 packs of ammunition 8. Color coded folders

[@tdolz]

MAGA

[@moonbeam112]

"ma-am, I'm sorry but I don't have my homework today" "I said to get your fucking homework out."

[@pingu4life659]

School shooter:exists Teacher:you came to the wrong house fool

[@johnwoelfel7326]

It's time to consider home schooling!

[@energydragon1147]

I sure as hell wouldn't want to go to a school where there were teachers armed lmao

[@owiewan0112]

The only protection in our school is an old burly guy with a handlebar mustache that sits in the corner of the cafeteria. We call him The Lorax.

[@maxdelucas2184]

wouldent want to be in there when a teacher isnt feeling himself that day 😯

[@AmusementForce]

I myself carry condoms not guns...

[@wolfy1987]

Reminder, this is about deterrence. A few armed teachers will be a better one than one armed security guard who won't even be in the room with the students

[@tophergauruder3647]

The National average response time of The police department is 15 minutes 19 seconds, the average response of a Glock 19 is about 15 minutes and 3 seconds faster.

[@johndough2028]

your not supposed to rely solely on law enforcers its up to you to make sure you and your kids are safe

[@powers_media]

TEACH THE FAILING PARENTS INSTEAD

[@sirvalentine8883]

Yes this is an example of conservative gun laws that work.

[@simonmaguire5250]

The only reason they don't want Teachers to carry guns is they can never tell kids "Guns are bad" if teacher carries.

[@adammurray4408]

I can't think of one reason why a trained teacher shouldn't be allowed a gun at their school. Why is this even a debate

[@HorseRadish403]

Teacher: The clock doesn't dismiss you, my glock does.

[@geyck]

The fact that the teachers are armed almost guarantees no shooter would strike there. The trama of taking a life is a non-issue. And the trama of taking a life would be far less than the trama of watching your students getting gunned down in front of you while you can't do anything about it.

[@blondething8255]

It's great here in the UK, our teachers don't need guns.

[@tommiatkins3443]

You are slaves, we are free to kill Thirty Thousand of our own people every year just with gunfire alone. There's no way the King of England is gunna take my Gun off me. Imagine walking down a peaceful street without everyone having a gun??? You guys are weird.

[@bloxgame4823]

Yeah you know what else you don’t need? The insane amount of violence in your nation

[@jalons2373]

Smh 😴 glad I'm a senior and about to get the fuck out of high school shits only going to get worst!!

[@Adam-nq3hv]

I don’t believe teachers should be armed , I believe teachers should teach .

[@Flex_seal]

Imagine being to loud in the library while the librarian is having a bad day

[@BloodThirstyMedic]

Teachers should be allowed to carry guns. I'm a student.

[@00nothingxD]

"i dont believe teachers should be armed" -the cop who hid outside the school during a shooting

[@joesilvas4299]

It's the same as anyone else, if you don't want to carry a gun then don't, if you want to carry a gun then do. Do not get angry because the other person wishes to do or not do something.