CNSWIPOWER 2000 Watt Pure Sine Wave Inverter vs Honda EU2000 Inverter Generator | Load and Waveform

Received this pure sinewave inverter from CNSWIPOWER. Going to load test and monitor the output waveform using an oscilloscope and Kill A Watt meter. Will do the same test against a modified sinewave inverter and a Honda EU2000 inverter generator.
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[@johnclarke6647]

It is nice to see an ethical presenter. Most on UTube are not so inclined. As a retired outdoor writer I am well aware how hard it is to be ethical in one’s presentations or writing.

[@jcondon1]

Thanks John

[@larrytalley117]

Just a quick note about your battery connections. As a long time service manager for an RV Service center I would like to say that for a 2 12v battery parallel set up, you should always have the positive connected to one battery and the negative connected to the other battery, with of course the 2 parallel jumpers. What you have in your set up is what we call an "outrigger" connection. I don't think it would change any of your measurements but for long term use in your RV, the "outrigger" battery will, over time undercharge, and the other fully connected battery will start to run warmer. This will significantly reduce the lifetime of the batteries. The current should always flow equally and balanced through all of the batteries. This is also true for multiple 6 volt setups as well. Most large RV's for example use four 6 volt batteries, 2 banks in series and then those banks in parallel. In fact, two 6 volt batteries in series instead of your two 12 volt batteries in parallel will provide a measurably longer service life between charges over the 12's. Hope this helps.

[@jcondon1]

Thanks for the information, good to know. My RV had the batteries connected in parallel the same way I did it in the video. Will have to change that.

[@larrytalley117]

@@jcondon1 I absolutely love your videos. You are always so calm and informative. It might be informative to try your tests with 2 of the 6 volt batteries and compare how long each would last without the charger attached, since that is what happens in RV's. No need for an inverter if plugged into shore power or on the generator, so the batteries are "on their own". Again love your videos

[@josepeixoto3384]

Very interesting "detail"; for small loads it does not matter,but for heavy loads like that,over 100 amps,it matters some, if the jumpers are not real heavy cables.

[@johnraley5713]

Very interesting! It would be interesting to see the waveform on a non-inverter generator such as a Storm Responder.

[@jcondon1]

Later this summer will compare an inverter generator to brushed generator with and without an AVR as well as a brushless.

[@davyarthurs]

@@jcondon1 look forward to seeing that!

[@laxtimercom]

@@jcondon1 And the effect of different kinds of high loads (resistive, inductive, capacitive). My understanding is that high loads really separate the good from the bad generators. This video was very useful.

[@tarstarkusz]

@@laxtimercom Don't forget duty cycle.(inverter)

[@Shockedbywater]

I know this is an older video but regarding the voltage reading at 15:27, at least a couple of volts of that drop are from the cords. Assuming a 50' 12 AWG cord and 12.5 amps of load you have 2.17 volts of drop in the cord. To avoid measuring this cord drop you might want to run a second light duty cord just for the voltage measurements and use the heavy cord to just power the load. In short the voltage reading on the kilowatt is not a true indication of the generators voltage output. Thanks for the very interesting videos and have a great day.

[@Bassguitarist1985]

It's always great to have an oscilloscope output reading on inverters and inverter generators. That is definitely the next tool I want to invest in!

[@KensSmallEngineRepair]

You’re finally getting noticed. it’s about time!!! Good job!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Nice setup with the batteries the amp clamp and multimeter and the Occiliscope and the battery charger thats a re branded Mac Charger @3:20 @James Condon

[@jcondon1]

Did not know about the re-branded Mac charger. Good deal.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@jcondon1 Mac sales that same charger in Green all models that are that shape that are grey are made by a company called clore Automotive they make the grey model you have as well as all variants on amazon and the green model that Mac tool sells very good units 👍

[@GapRecordingsNamibia]

My 2c? Rather go 48V, the higher you go on the DC side the lower the current draw on your batteries. Having thicker cables on the DC side is a definite bonus the reason for that is, the ripple that comes from the invertor when under load increases proportionally to the current being drawn, the thinner your cable the higher the ripple, so not only is the current draw going to heat up your cables but the resistance in your cables increases because of the ripple. As for the Honda, that sine-wave change is due to there being no load and the engine floating so the wave form is not stable because of the phasing going on....... Thanks James Good review....

[@rlferv]

Oh Great!!! Now I need to get a Tablet oscilloscope . Thanks James. every week after your videos I need a new tool. Ha Ha Ha :-) Great jab as always. Thank you.

[@rosabeha8121]

Very good efficiency. The drill draws 16.1 watts, the inverter draws 16.8 amps. (At 06:35)

[@paulravitsky2898]

I would recommend when you install this inverter that you use the same gauge wire you used as the jumpers to tie the batteries in parallel. It looked like 6 or 8 gauge, x2, between the batteries and the inverter in the video. You were approaching 1v drop between the inverter and the batteries with those short cables, it's only going to get worse with longer cables and they will get hot.... I enjoy the channel. Keep up the great work!

[@jbpuertoricorinconpuertori3799]

Could you please show how you hook up the oscilloscope to the generator?

[@gadgetwob]

The weird waveform seen on the stepped sine wave inverter is because the probe coupling was set to AC.

[@28YorkshireRose12]

I bought three UPS by APC (Schneider Electric) rated at 1500W each, and very good they are. Intended for IT applications, the output is TSW and exceptionally clean and stable, but the downside is the rate of discharge of the indwelling batteries. Intended originally to give business owners time to save their work and shut down their computers without losing any important data. They can be supplied from bigger 'off-board' batteries to run longer, and are well capable of keeping us on power through a typical outage. Inverters are very handy where noise might be an issue, especially if there are other residencies nearby. Trouble is, fixing them isn't as easy! - That looks like a decent little inverter you have there. The Hz should remain stable regardless of load since it's generated in an electronic oscillator which drives the power inversion as a separate process. As long as the oscillator receives adequate voltage, it will run at the correct frequency. If the battery voltage drops beyond a predetermined value, the oscillator stops running, so it's either correct Hz, or no Hz at all.

[@jcondon1]

Was impressed with this inverter. The loudest thing was the microwave and the quiet Honda inverter generator. Just need a good battery bank and a means to charge the batteries.

[@joakoc.6235]

WOW them go out of stock fast haha. Thanks for testing the product!

[@mikemckeown9477]

I have a 1000 watt pure sine wave in my trailer and have done in-depth test like yours.I run a Samsung tv it takes 60 watts and blue ray player I have 2 12 volt batteries it runs all evening with very little drain on battery and now I know I’ve made right chose

[@chuckhanson8784]

James, can you provide a little more description for the Tablet oscilloscope? Maybe a model number? I will consider ordering one. Thansk

[@jcondon1]

Here is the link to the one I purchased www.amazon.com/dp/B08L3FRKYF/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_P9YTAPBKPS22T16K4FZM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[@scottdenhamrealestate7716]

James, good to see your quality videos are finally garnering attention and you are getting samples to try. I know you will be honest and they couldn't ask for more than that. Keep up the great work.

[@jcondon1]

Thanks Scott

[@notyoung]

I have two 2000 watt pure sine wave inverters, purchased from Ebay vendor reliablepower several years ago for about $250 each. One is primary on our solar-charged "Wait until daylight" backup power system (the other one is the backup for it) and the 12 volt, 420AH nattery bank provides 8 to 20 hours of power depending on the season. Running the 460 watt blower on the gas central heat moves the time closer to 8 hours. Running just the fridge, kitchen counter outlets (charging phones, tablets and laptops and having light for preparing food) and some LED lighting moves the time closer to 20 hours. We might also power the freezer or the internet equipment and the home network. I consider this backup system a "Wait until daylight" system because I'm not out in a thunderstorm or in the dark shoveling 7" of snow at 30F to get a generator from the shed out back. The power co-op's sine wave isn't as good as what the inverter produces. We don't have a lot of long outages, although we've had one 16 hour outage (before the current system and running things on an OLD Coleman 1850 watt generator) and one 12 hour outage (after the current system was operational and a much nicer event). We do have frequent short outages - being 2+ miles of tree-lined road away from the substation that supplies us means the aerial cable has many opportunities for encounters with nature ;-) The most recent outage was almost two hours a couple of nights ago but, even after reporting the outage with their app, no notice of estimated restoration time or any other info (their online outage page isn't any better). An outage that begins with the lights flickering and a GROAN! from the transformer across the street (twice!) isn't likely to be restored in the 30 minutes I usually wait before switching to the backup system so I went ahead and turned it on and flipped the transfer breakers. Much easier to go down the steps to the basement and flip a few switches than to go outside to get a generator ;-)

[@hullinstruments]

Would love to see you do more electronics work on your channel. With some basic lab equipment like benchtop oscilloscope, signal generator, benchtop multimeter, variac, a few things like that… And you would be amazed at the things you can fix! And similar to the device in your video… There are extremely well-made pieces of test equipment being made in China these days… So you don’t have to spend thousands on HP or tektronix lab gear. You’re so good at explaining and teaching it would be a joy to watch you tackle more complex electronics and PCB component level board repairs. While teaching troubleshooting and how to track down faulty components on circuit boards… To repair these devices.

[@jcondon1]

I am slowing picking up more equipment. Would love to get into PCB repair. Soldering has always been my weakness, but also do not have the proper equipment so maybe I am not as bad as I think.

[@w056007568]

What a fascinating video! I found it most interesting and in fact went back and watching it again. The comments are equally informative and interesting as well. (Not that I understand all the technical stuff!)

[@823Steve]

How are you making the connection from the scope to the power cord? I've tried looking at several YT videos, but they are so confounded and never quite get to the point. I think they are coming from a scope connected to the mains and measuring a power cord connected to the mains.

[@ericvaughn1126]

Very informative/educational and great comments from others versed in such things too. Looking forward to the comparison video that you mentioned (in comments) is coming later this summer.

[@peterbbca]

Looking at the waveform of the cheap "modified sine" inverter, I think your oscilliscope input was set to "AC coupled". If you set it to "DC coupled" you should see something more like the modified sine drawing you showed.

[@billarroo1]

Very informative that 2000 watt inverter did better than I thought it would. Thanks

[@jcondon1]

No problem 👍

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Learning something each time thanks for sharing James 👍

[@christsuch]

Hi. I like your videos. But one comment to the usage of an oscillascope. You need to switch your oscillascope to DC. The use of DC and AC is a bit missleading if you are used to a multimeter. AC mean it add a small capacitor in the line. There are some cases, where it is usefull (eg. if you want to get rid of DC portion of a signal like if you want to see what ripple causes the inverter on you battery) but normaly you can use DC. In your case the frequency is so low (61Hz is very low from an oscillascopes point of view), that the inline capacitor is charching faster than the signal is. From what I can see in your video I guess below 500Hz you get disortions.

[@jcondon1]

Will try that out. Will be making another video later this summer testing the wave form of several different types of generators.

[@sergiomomesso1590]

Wow your review is 👌. Finally, you got a really good 2000 watts inverter for free, excellent for you. 👍

[@gmacted]

I hope you include your Honda EU6500is in your generator comparison video. I would be interested in that.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

I'm impressed them batteries held up on the microwave 👏👌 nice inverter

[@jcondon1]

Me too

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Defenitly impressed with the inverter the sign wave a ton more pure then the Honda inverter generator that was un expected @James Condon

[@jcondon1]

Was expecting the Honda to look as good if not better. Will do a test later this year with my Honda EU6500 and the oscilloscope.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

@@jcondon1 I agree I thought the Honda sign wave would of better a ton better was unexpected for sure

[@sdriza]

Did NOT expect that setup to run the microwave...

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Pretty cool video @James Condon

[@Farm_fab]

Jim, I plan to go with a solar powered system, and I have 4 24v panels and no batteries as of yet. I have a diesel engine to run a 24v alternator to cover cloudy days. I have my charge regulators and a couple smaller inverters, plus a couple ups's to function as inverters. I'm looking at buying a farm that was Amish built 110 years ago, but has been wired for phone and electric as the two homes were rented out. If I buy this small farm, I will have to redo everything in both homes due to the likelihood of lead paint, and the one house needs some major changes to the upstairs as it's not well designed. The out buildings are in relatively good shape for their age. The aforementioned power equipment will be just a starter for my shop, and I'll need more panels for when I do welding and woodworking (not in the same building), I may get a diesel generator to power my welder at some point, so I can weld out in the field if need be.

[@health101DOTorg]

Thanks you! I'll be getting that oscilloscope! Any tips on how to connect it to the 120VAC output?

[@mikelinke2702]

Hi I have been following you for a while and this is great I didn’t quite understand the whole system before and now I do thank you.

[@johndean7618]

Thanks James, I have wondered what kind of sign wave these inverter looked like.

[@kennthbrowne7051]

I have same 3000 watts pure sine wave inverter love it 48V DC

[@DZX5000]

that was such a good review! thanks a lot! 👍

[@johnh8268]

Put your scope on DC coupling and it will probably look more like a square wave.

[@johnclarke6647]

It is inductive and resistive loads. I have never heard of a capacitive load but Iknow what you meant. The drill is inductive the heater is resistive. II am also a former radar maintenance. Chief and electronics instructor.

[@jcondon1]

Resistive and inductive are the most common loads for sure, but with all the complex electrics and switch mode power supplies capacitive loads are a bigger issue now.

[@johnclarke6647]

@@jcondon1 capacitors charge up and then just sit there. In that way the are more like 👍 nductve loads with a surge current, albeit small when compared to inductive loads

[@throwbo]

@@johnclarke6647 Capacitors just sit there on a DC circuit. On an AC circuit they are constantly charging and discharging.

[@johnclarke6647]

@@throwbo that’s not so. Capacitors charge up on a DC circuit and couple AC voltage on an AC circuit.

[@throwbo]

@@johnclarke6647 But HOW do they couple voltage? By charging up on half the cycle and discharging on the other half. So they don't "just sit there".

[@benkanobe7500]

I would really like to see you compare a range of generators of all three types to show how the waveform looks at low load and high continuous load so we can see what we are feeding our homes and RVs.

[@YukonHawk1]

Your wife back in the house,. James.... where's the microwave???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣😎😎😎😎 Great video. Very informative. Thank you.👍

[@nevellgreenough404]

Something's really wrong with the oscilloscope waveform at ~12:39. Looks like the probe has a bad ground lead or connection. This may have also been the case on the Honda. I have a $200 1kW honda-knockoff and it's waveform looks much better. Thanks for the vid!

[@jcondon1]

I agree something may have been off. Going to do another video later this summer computing the waveform of several different generator types. Will try the inverter generator again. I have a couple others I could try if the EU2000 still looks off.

[@Plons0Nard]

Yeah, defenitely a loose connection. What you see on the scope is a capacitive coupling to the squarish output of the inverter. So, James, .... today you have to have dinner in the garage ? 😉 The first one is a great looking inverter. With lots of ooompf, being able to start the microwave. The 150W one is a good one to keep in your car. This type of inverter is very well suited for smps, like laptop chargers. With the Honda, what you see on the scope is interference between the 60Hz from the Honda and your local grid. Nothing to worry about. Is your scope running from an internal battery ?

[@jcondon1]

@@Plons0Nard yes, the scope was running on battery.

[@shadowbanned69]

Ive always seen the gas inverters have a inconsistent wave form under no load, but i think its made to clean up when a load is provided....

[@jcondon1]

I saw the same

[@idontneedaname85]

Neat buddy. Love this vid (a little different than normal)

[@jcondon1]

Thanks 👍

[@vincentrobinette1507]

From what I can see, the inverter in the Honda U-2000 may have bad capacitors. The alternator bolted to the engine puts out 3 phase power at a rather high frequency, which passes through a 6 diode full bridge rectifier, then, into a filtering capacitor. If that capacitor is bad, the voltage may drop too low during the current peaks drawn by the sinewave output stage, and if that voltage sags below ~170 volts, the output stage clips, just like a class "D" audio amplifier. Because the inverter uses its own frequency generator, it doesn't matter what the actual engine speed is. The output frequency does not change with load. The engine does vary. If a peak pulse coming from the alternator hits at the same time as the peak of the output, you get a full amplitude pulse. If the inverter output peaks during a zero-crossing of the alternator, it may not. That's what causes those ripples. The capacitor is sized to maintain the minimum DC voltage necessary for a pure sine wave under load, but, if that capacitor is bad, it can't provide the reserve power to do that. Because the alternator is 3 phase, the zero crossing actually occurs at a minimum of 1/2 the peak voltage of the alternator, so the output of the inverter never drops out, but, it is dirty I don't think it's possible to take the inverter apart to replace the big electrolytic filter capacitor. I tried, but the inverter was "potted", so there is no access to the internal components. That's done to protect from moisture and vibration from the engine. If that's the case, the only solution is to replace the inverter module, or, just run it as is, knowing that it will not produce a clean sine wave under heavy load.

[@bigdaadio.K2WW]

Big thanks to a great video! I just ran across it after a YEAR, but to chime in on what others have said, very thorough. Id like to see a comparison on efficiency, not only under load but idol. Manufacturers don't make any claims for that or at least I haven't seen them. Sub+

[@bbcellular]

Idle consumption is listed in the specs.

[@bigdaadio.K2WW]

@@bbcellular I must be blind, I searched the specs and saw notging in there about idle/standby current draw. Very important figure for an off grid setup.

[@jerrybootneck1736]

That second test showed a sawtooth sine wave A sawtooth occurs when the only the “up ramp” of each signal is directed to the output. Great video.

[@troy3456789]

@10:55 your warm battery wires make sense to me. 150 amps is too much for those. They need to be shorter or thicker to carry that without [heat] loss.

[@stephengordon8968]

Show us the power from a everyday portable generator !

[@troy3456789]

If you want to get an inverter, figure your inverter size to be 66% higher capacity. If you know you will be powering 100 amps of loads, then ONLY employ 300 amp capability; not more than that, and not less than that percentage. It's why you really need several different inverters for various loads.

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Looks like a good unit James ! ENJOYED..

[@freecycling6687]

This video was a great change of pace, and the icing on the cake - very useful information! Couple of things: - Was the battery being charged at the same time it was supplying current to the inverter? If so, did you notice any problems with that? - Suggestion for a related video: It's really tough to find a generator that advertises "Less than 5% THD", which seems to be the cutoff for "clean power". It would be very interesting to see the waveforms for various generators as you work on them and compare them.

[@jcondon1]

Going to do a video later this summer comparing the waveform of different generator types. The charger was supplying power at the same time. No issues seen with that.

[@freecycling6687]

@@jcondon1 Looking forward to it, thanks!

[@joey24698]

actually there are many inverter generators that advertise less than 5% thd

[@vmaxride06]

Great information James , very well done . Thank you for another lesson

[@williamvaughan1218]

Would be interesting to see the waveform difference with the generator on eco mode vs eco mode off.

[@lawrencepevitts2434]

Interesting. Very informative. Great video.

[@somerandomguy3868]

The Honda's waveform looked alright, certainly clean enough for electronics, TV laptop phone what have you

[@markholder6851]

Very interesting, also quite a surprise. That inverter looks to be very good. The Honda was a bit disappointing. Honda claim their inverter generators output AC as clean as utility power, your test shows differently! Do you not have the bigger Honda inverter generator? Now that would be really interesting to see how it compares!

[@jcondon1]

To be fair, that Honda probably has many thousands of hours on it. A new one might be better. I plan on doing another waveform test like that with different generator types.

[@user-ug9nn]

sorry my friend the "used" Honda has much better sine wave than the utility power, just put the oscilloscope on utility power and you will see how bad the shape it is with extra spikes and twists, because on utility power different simultaneously consumer devices distort the shape...

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Pure sign wave is always better then a Modified Sign Wave

[@philoso377]

This is interesting. Never seen inverter wave form in a collective manner, from good bad to ugly. One thing I have not seen and is craving for seeing is - inverter ac input versus ac output wave form w/wo loading. Essentially coming off same unit, such as Honda eu2000.

[@jcondon1]

I will make that video at some point.

[@philoso377]

@@jcondon1 thanks in advance. I forget to mention this. Oscilloscope inputs are single ended referencing to signal-ground. So it cannot handle differential signal at the inverter input when ch2 is hooked to inverter output. Unless we remove the probe on ch2 use only ch1. I hope you are not reading this in hospital.

[@deangentles4966]

Hi James your video was very educational and well informative a good class to sit mate

[@jcondon1]

Thanks Dean

[@Razzaqabuali]

Welcome back.

[@jkirias]

Wonder what input current it draws with no load on the output ??

[@nosaltiesandrooshere7488]

👍 Danke fürs Hochladen! 👍 Thanks for uploading! 👍 Very good and beautiful, thank you! 👍 Sehr gut und schön, danke!

[@davidgreen484]

Thank you, that was educational

[@DouglasKB0SDQ]

would be a nice set up with a couple solar panels to supply the batteries. Thanks for all you do very good content

[@user-ug9nn]

Is a high frequency inverter, so this is why is cheaper (and Chinese brand) than low frequency one witch have a large (usually toroidal) transformer inside. This type of inverter are not so rugged like the low frequency ones because transistor drive directly the load not through a buffer transformer, so shorts, inductive voltage spike will destroy this inverter..

[@TimHancock-h6e]

I would have love to seen the amps, going into the battery as they were trying to charge them back up.

[@Ram14250]

Not sure that Honda EU2000 you have is in the best of shape. It's been put through the mill. Judgement on that particular unit vs the battery inverter might not be completely accurate.

[@FishFind3000]

His larger Honda eu6500 would be a better test

[@googacct]

I never trust the power ratings on inverters like that. It may handle 2kw, but it is probably pushing the components right to their limits. When I built a small battery backup system, I bought a 4000W inverter so a 15 or 20 amp load does not push the electrical components to their limit.

[@jcondon1]

I agree. Always buy an inverter well over the rating that you plan to run.

[@larrykelly2838]

Great info Doc, just happen to need a new inverter, thanks

[@jptrainor]

Is your scope input ac coupled? Pass a square wave through a high pass filter (which is what ac coupling is) and you get a waveform like you saw.

[@jcondon1]

I think I had a bad connection when testing the output of the modified square wave inverter.

[@Micko350]

The amount of people(over here in Australia anyway) that think they can run an Inverter off 1 or 2 ~130a/h Batteries & expect them to cope is astonishing!

[@JT-lq4yd]

I am not sure if this will help but, it is like that everywhere, not just Australia. Someone was asking on a vendor's website about connecting a 12v 2,000 lbs rated winch to the car's dash 12v outlet.

[@jcondon1]

The more batteries the better. Need a good bank and a good means to charge them to run at 2000 watts for any period of time. Was surprised that I made it cooking that meal. Not due to the inverter, but only two batteries.

[@larrysmall3521]

How about the same scope display with a regular generator. The sine wave comes from the rotation of the coil through the magnetic field. I would think the basic waveform should be pretty good, maybe with some more noise on it.

[@jcondon1]

That is in the works for later this summer.

[@treadless_co]

I'd be interested in seeing the Firman Tri fuel generator on your oscilloscope (11 - 14% THD).

[@damnitdang]

Is it pretty equivalent to a Honda eu2000 if you have agm batterys?

[@benlyons7752]

Great video.

[@itsallfabrication]

Good vid, enjoyed it, thanks.

[@adnacraigo6590]

Very educational.

[@williamvaughan1218]

I'm looking for a scope like that. Nice

[@kswis]

It was interesting to see the waveform on the Honda hunt around till it had a load to stabilize. Very cool. Used them for yrs never thought to observe the waveform. I'm bout to purchase the inverter though. Cswi trutyyt blah blah whatever they're labeling it haha. Is it still functional or have you sent it back already?

[@19mati67]

Could you add an inverter like this to a regular generator, to the 12V output?

[@jcondon1]

You could, but most 12v outputs on generators are limited to about 8 amps at 12v which is only 96 watts.

[@19mati67]

@@jcondon1 Another question, it would be possible to convert a regular generator to an inverter one, with one of these inverters?

[@davyarthurs]

What's your plan for the CNSWIPOWER inverter? Looks a good piece of kit! You almost need a line filter in between the generator and whatever you're powering to smooth that wave form and stable out the power supply a bit. Very surprised you haven't 'monetised' your videos.

[@jcondon1]

Not sure. My RV has the wiring for an inverter. May install it there, not sure.

[@Tom-In-Ga]

@@jcondon1 I know you are considering it but I'm not sure it's a good idea running that 2000 watt inverter on only 2 12 volt batteries in your motor home. I'm guessing, but those batteries are AGM at maybe 100ah each? I was considering doing something like that in my RV but decided to go with a small 300 watt pure sine inverter along with my 2 6 volt 225 ah batteries and 400 watts solar on the roof. I also have an iGen2200 Westinghouse for those times I really need that much power when boondocking. The small inverter is handy for those times I want to watch TV or power some other small ac appliance without the need to fire up the genny. Anyway, really nice thorough demonstration. If I was going to get a larger inverter, I would certainly consider this one. The price is excellent for what you get (regular outlets, hard wiring, remote) and performance was very good. Thanks for another well made video!

[@john0270]

hmm i wonder what household power looks like on that scope under same conditions?

[@jcondon1]

In this video you can see that at 50:18 kzbin.info/www/bejne/in7dmZKglNCAr80

[@jl-jeepinlife1879]

Great Video. Just subscribed. I have a question I want to run an electric home griddle when I am out camping instead of a propane stove. I have a 150ah life po4 battery and a redarc.1225 dcdc charger will this inverter work for my 1500 amp griddle if so for how long? Sorry no matter how much I try amd learn this it's hard. I appreciate you

[@jcondon1]

I am not sure if this inverter is compatible with po4. Also you do not need a pure sinewave to power a griddle. You could save a little $$ and get a modified sinewave inverter. To run 1500 watts AC you need 12.5 amps at 120 volts. Assuming your battery is running at 14 volts, then it will need to output 107 amps DC to support 1500 watts. The inverter can definitely do it, but your battery will be the determining factor. Best case your battery will power the inverter at that load for 1.4 hours.

[@jl-jeepinlife1879]

@@jcondon1 thank you so much for getting back to me on thos I appreciate you. Keep up the great videos

[@jp-um2fr]

I have a 3Kw German inverter generator hooked up to a large Computer UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) with 4 large batteries. The output from a UPS is as near perfect as ever needed and should the generator fail it takes over for around 4 hours at 2000wW /250V. I just happened to have both so why not.

[@atoiler1389]

Hi Doug, I am new to tent trailering and am looking for a reasonably priced 2000 (or better) continuous output pure sine wave inverter. Do you have another inverter suggestion, as this one has been out of stock for some time so I am not able to purchase it. Also wondering what gauge copper cable to run about 12 feet from my batteries to where the inverter will be mounted? Really appreciate your help. Cheers

[@jcondon1]

The cable gauge depends on the length, voltage and amps. Assuming 12v, 12ft, 166 amps at 12 volts you would need at least 4/0 awg wire. There are calculators online you can use. At that length you might be better running a 24 or 48 volt system. Inverter should be mounted inside somewhere with good airflow for cooling. Do not have any other inverter recommendations, but would make sure you read the reviews.

[@atoiler1389]

@@jcondon1 James I’m not sure how I can use a 24 or 48 v inverter as my batteries are 12 volts. Also do you have a decent pure sine wave inverter you’d suggest? Trusting you judgement. Thanks, Doug

[@dalemartin9948]

Can we still buy briggs short blocks

[@oktoantang6563]

Hi, I'm a csnwipower 2500watt user. I have a few questions. what is the function of the remote switch? and can the remote switch not be installed on the unit? what effect? thank you for your answer

[@bbcellular]

To turn it off and on lol

[@gaetansimard1594]

Very interesting video! Tks.

[@immrnoidall]

I have a basic , 5000 watt generator. Not sine wave. Can I use that with the 80-60 AMP charger that is built into my Pure Sine Wave,5000 watt UPS , INVERTER/CHARGER, WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSFER SWITCH?

[@jcondon1]

80-60 AMP @ how many volts? As long as the charger pull less then 5000 then technically you can use it to charge the UPS. You want to make sure the generator is brushed. Brushless generators have a very dirty power output and can cause damage. Brushed generators are better, but still considered dirty so there is some risk.

[@patrickmclaughlin6013]

these CNSWIPOWER inverters have been looking really good, seen several yt reviews of them and all positive next, maybe you can crack it open and check out the electronics?

[@jcondon1]

John Daniel did a good video on this inverter and took the cover off kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4GZh42Yp6-BbNE

[@throwbo]

What does a conventional (non-inverter) generator look like on a 'scope?

[@jcondon1]

Will do a video later this summer testing the waveform on several different generators types (brushed, brushless and inverter).

[@kylecampbell6953]

i tried running an ac off this inverter and it would run fine for 3 minutes then the volts would all of the sudden drop to around 54 and it would make a buzzing noise. Any idea why it's doing that? i know it can handle the surge but not continous after 3 minutes

[@jcondon1]

Not sure. I still have this and have not experienced that issue.

[@kylecampbell6953]

@James Condon yeah it's strange. I don't think it's too high of a surge because that would trip the alarm but after 3 minutes of running it will do that. I have no problems with other high wattage appliances.

[@kylecampbell6953]

It is a big ac though, 15,000 btu. But it will start it and run for 3 minutes. It pulls around 1280 watts so it should be able to keep running it?

[@jcondon1]

Would make sure your batteries are capable, the wire connected to the batteries are the proper gauge and make sure the wire connections are tight. 1280 watts is close to 110 amps pulling from the batteries at 12 volts or 60 amps at 24 volts.

[@habana7638]

@@jcondon1 This is the difference between cheap and quality, high frequency conversion and low frequency conversion, for example the Victron with their large Toroidal transformer.

[@x01e]

Great video, now show us a non-inverter generator please.

[@JoeAiken-s8k]

Why would you not need as thick a wires for the battery if it was a 24v inverter. Could you exsplain the reason for that please. Thank you

[@jcondon1]

Wire size is based on amps. Volts x amp = watts. More volts means less amps for the same watts.

[@JoeAiken-s8k]

@@jcondon1 thank you

[@WJCTechyman]

I wonder if using a Panasonic inverter microwave would make a difference in initial consumption. Also, your oscilloscope doesn’t look like a lab-grade bench top. Do you have a Tektronix analogue unit or digital bench top one to verify?

[@jcondon1]

I have a Panasonic inverter microwave. Not lab grade for sure. I did have a Tektronix analogue unit, but it was really old. Plus, wanted a battery powered one to be isolated from ground.

[@Roy_Tellason]

@@jcondon1 Nothing wrong with really old when it comes to Tek stuff. There's a "Tekscopes" mailing list that's quite useful for working on that stuff...

[@andyjack2368]

what gade wire should i used 3000 what inverter pure sine wave 48V 110V -120V 60HZ

[@jcondon1]

At 3000 watts you will be pulling 62.5 amps DC. The gauge wire depends on how long the wire is and the type of wire used. Would say the minimum is 6 AWG. 2 AWG would be safer. There are calculators online to help you www.omnicalculator.com/physics/dc-wire-size

[@zweg1321]

Nice information