The ULTIMATE Positioning Guide for Marvel Rivals (stop throwing) | Tanks, DPS, Support

[@coach_mills]

What guides do you want to see next?

[@AlexLarner-j5u]

Star lord and flanking characters plzzzz w vid brw

[@mlad5274]

Map guides

[@jussy-]

black panther

[@ExoticZah]

Make a Magneto guide next please. 🙏🏽

[@albesayz]

Would love to see more general guides like this instead of hero specific ones.

[@Lewis-ec5sn]

The "You pick your engagements" can't be emphasized enough. That is the most important thing for flanking DPS players because often times they will run in the backline and attempt to force a kill. Don't ever do this, all you do is get yourself taken out of the team fight before it even happens. You need to be patient, wait until your team attacks in mass, and during the chaos is when you should be striking. When your team is regrouping you can use hit and run abilities to charge ult but you should never be diving the backline because you wont win. **Deaths** are the stats to look at, not eliminations, not damage, not heals, your deaths are the most important because it indicates how long you were in the fight for. If you're 10-3 you were in every teamfight and survived the majority of them meaning you added value to them as you could do your job in almost every teamfight whether that be as a healer or a DPS. The 20-9 Magik is not better than the 10-3 Magik. He's got double the eliminations but tripple the deaths, that's no good. Of course this is dependent on the game, but typically I try to strive for the same amount of deaths as the supports which tend to be the lowest on the team.

[@axobishop]

4 1 is worse than 10 4 tho on DPS because it doesn't matter if you're alive if you aren't doing your job

[@ExoticZah]

⁠@@axobishop He didn’t say 4-1 though. You genuinely know what he means bro. Stop trying to over complicate his message.

[@ExoticZah]

As a dps you shouldn’t have more than double the deaths of your support players. Unless you have a crazy amount of kills.

[@ScareyBusey]

Problem is that these bronze games rarely have teams that attack together so you'll be waiting a while

[@havocgr1976]

Psylocke should always play like that,or at least charge her ulti. Hell I even play Thor like that!Off angle is a must.It kinda depends on Thor though, if they are constantly all together, then I dont.

[@paragon1782]

Exactly what I've been waiting for. This my first hero shooter

[@TheLinkhawkins]

I played Gundam Evolution, but this feels different.

[@coach_mills]

Gundam Evo was so fun. I miss it

[@EraOfKingsMMORPG]

God. thank you. never watched a single guide about positioning, but i geniunely are tired of people walking into a choke as a hela, and trying to get kills when we come back from spawn, and they instantly get picked, and then we are 5v6 because our tank choose to go in. engagement timing, and positioning is SOOO important. people often use zero natural cover, and stand in the middle of a point, and just shoot forward into a full team that instantly sees you because you are behind your tank, and any time they shoot him, you also might get hit.

[@havocgr1976]

Its like people don't know there are like at least 3 ways to every point, they just go center again and again and die.

[@EpitomePax]

Did you mean 4v6 after hela and tank die 😂

[@badxwolf_x_5558]

No lie as a support main. If your dps don't know where meds are, they will also not know you can't heal thru walls 😂

[@LIlFro-]

Oh nah this is facts. So many times our tanks just run into the team, die and blame me

[@LeeRev67]

Also just a slight phrasing that I would suggest instead of Subjective vs Objective. I would say positioning is objectively bad or good, but the bad or good is dynamic so you have to make judgement calls based on knowledge of the game state. Technically theoretically pausing a game at any given moment there is an objectively best position it is just dynamically changing as the fight progresses. Also been loving your videos as someone who played OW1 way back when and is seriously wanting to get better at hero shooters I have loved the insight you have given thank you so much I feel I have gotten much better even just over the past two weeks playing the game and watching your videos for insight.

[@jcastrowhite08]

Seems he usually means context dependent more so I agree

[@EpicLoser-ge5wz]

Thank you for covering the POV thing. In Gears of War we called it Right Hand Advantage, and I don't see anyone talking about it here. Since we can't change POV, if you're on left cover, you're automatically at an advantage. We used to use it to ambush with the Gnasher all the time, especially on maps like Gridlock.

[@BloodRain222]

Pretty cool seeing you do so well now Mills,been following you for years and stayed tuned even through the drought. Really happy for you bro

[@coach_mills]

I appreciate you!

[@PDilling]

Subjective and objective are not synonyms for static and dynamic, just because positioning varies from good to bad depending on the situation, doesn’t mean it’s subjective! 😂

[@martinceronr]

Yeah, good positioning is a *relative* thing. Subjective things are relative. Relative things are not all subjective.

[@coach_mills]

Brother, I'm a college dropout what do you expect Bwhaha

[@NeogiTek]

your channel may be best Marvel Rivals content at this time. Keep up good work. Also, thanks for all the advice.

[@surriad1140]

Honestly, gotta say, with all of the content being made for this game, you’re one of the very few actually teaching how to improve.

[@simmysingh7859]

Coach back again with another hood classic 💯

[@QuayOgs]

W channel bro!! Almost plat with you recent tips.

[@PlatinumAssassin]

Great tips. Im a shooter 20+year veteran at this point and former OW player but its often good to get a reminder of the fundamentals regardless of skill level. That said much kudos for mentioning the health pack thing. I, personally, win a lot of duels that are not flat out ambushes when Im playing a dive DPS by pulling aggro to a strong position that has a health pack. I can either whittle away their health as they approach and top off or have them expend utility trying to kill me and top off. Body blocking and lining your strafe with your preferred health pack is also key. Lastly, id also say learn where you can easily route to get adjacent health packs. There are some area where more than one pack are in routes from one another. especially if you have a mobility option. This will allow for the player to possibly keep up the pressure, alleviate the use of healers utility on said player, and over all have an abusable source of healing x1-x2 times.

[@zzznardszzz4715]

Any tips for jumping in with Hulk going 1 on 6? Seems to happen a lot.

[@saulgoodmansfingerr8527]

Any bruce banner tips? I can only win as hulk

[@organbandage4822]

Love the content Mills, been helping me improve a lot (this is my first competitive shooter in general). That being said, could you make a Thor guide? I’ve seen you playing a lot of Thor, so I feel like you would have the expertise to make it really good. He can be pretty daunting to learn for some players, myself included. I’m sure you have tons of content planned, so I don’t expect you to get to it right away, but it would be greatly appreciated.

[@Cjgkslsmvtkoesnxbs]

It’s not just bad positioning but also bad decision making. If you’re a dive dps like Wolverine or Black Panther you need to be picking the correct targets to go after. Wolverine should be taking up fights with characters, and more importantly tanks, that are by themselves. It’s good to make sure their team is already distracted as well.

[@danielcolt5542]

I'd argue you're not forgoing Good Positioning when you have significant resource advantage, being on top of the enemy team to seal the deal IS Good Positioning in that moment. Great guide, thanks coach!!

[@navystylz]

I notice when I pay attention to my positioning I'm doing so much better. Unfortunately so many people don't understand theirs or wonder why they are rushing out into the open to fight only 2 people on the other team, never once looking left, right or behind and seeing the rest of enemy team flanking to try and pick off support. Last match a group queued together and legt didn't even try to even come close to brushing cover--nope, over and over, right out into the open in the hallway, talking about Mantis stick with us, follows us. I was like nope.

[@trejon08ify]

Went from plat 3 to diamond 3 tonight thanks for all the guides!!

[@Spanishflea.]

Free tip: Press B to see which walls are destructible. this works on any map even in the practice range. Itll help you make new routes.

[@thememewalker]

Great content as always Coach, can't wait for the Thor guide

[@IKAMarvelRivals]

Misplacing yourself in Marvel Rivals is like handing yourself over to Thanos

[@Amonkira1029]

I will tell you what good positioning is: Stand near walls. Especially if you are not tank. Put as many walls near you as possible while you do what you do. Third person view means you can stand directly in front of a wall to your left and still shoot. Surround yourself with safety.

[@nothappyboi9453]

The chaos reminds me Smite so much. I never played overwatch but the team fighting and abilities are very similar. Pick your battles, in and out, don’t rush a team lol

[@aeroblizz1987]

Would it be possible for them to add a switch shoulder/crosshair position, I always like that option in 3rd person shooters. To switch based on what kinda wall you peaking

[@kazkatgamer6722]

Literally my random tank this morning was trying to tell us that we had bad healers and we needed to basically swap to meta (cloak and luna) when he single handedly walked the team into a choke hold space with aoe and high damage enemies watching the way, and chose that route 3 times... We won the next two parts cause i and the healers could split up and divided the proper healing up amongst the team and keep ppl stable. Like no it wasnt healing that was the problem it was your bad position and route choice.

[@twkandy7033]

What tank were they playing? I understand bad positioning but shouldn’t the tank take the main path and get the most eyes on them as a frontline tank and if they are a ambush tank they would be going on the side and distracting enemies from different angles? I am a tank main and solo queue a lot but it hard for me to rank up and I feel like this positioning guide only work with dps and support mostly(it does help tank understand u can’t 1v6 and to be conscious of not trying to get kills in back line just distracting) but what happen when u can’t communicate with ur team as a solo queue. You won’t be able to read when to go in without getting spotted by their off angle dps or tank since your team not communicating with you when to go in making the enemy 1v6 you using their skills and entering cds and your team doesn’t capitalize on that.

[@kazkatgamer6722]

@twkandy7033 he was playing strange on the wakanda map going through the mid room. (The dom map that has the spaceship platform with the staircase that opens and goes down from spawn) Diamond 3 (but there was a plat in the lobby so no ban.) But the enemy team had a magik, hela, thor, hulk, cloak, mantis ( three of these that bully strange ) and seeing this you'd think he'd not go into a roofed area to avoid the melee characters so that we could heal...but choose that way over and over...

[@CassiCalamity]

But what do you do against an iron man who constantly has the high ground and his attacks cause a burst around the area they hit

[@dobermanfreak2a112]

This video is perfect for Namor specifically! Proper positioning makes Namor the most powerful hero in the game period. Even more so with a Luna snow which makes him triple S tier.

[@TEEJTHEYEEP]

Hey I have a big question. How do people customize the yellow thing on the right side of the screen, that appears whenever you get a kill, to different colors based off of your hero? I can’t find it in the settings menu, and I don’t know if there are any requirements to get them. Any answers will help.

[@Anaarsta]

It's in the hero menu (where you read about their abilities or can see different skins), the last tab of specific hero page, "specialization" or something like that, if I remember correctly. You have to play long enough for the hero to get it

[@TEEJTHEYEEP]

@@Anaarsta thanks

[@saudmunawar2803]

Good lessons. Anyone got a list of these guidelines? Will be easiee to remember.

[@justinwilson1754]

Can you make a video on how and who should be stopping divers? I swear it’s impossible to stop a Venmo cap push to the back line on healers

[@ThePsychoRenegade]

Better positioning won't save me from bronze but positioning is the most important skill in these games. I never see people taking or contesting high ground.

[@windego999]

This is so helpful, I'm AWFUL at positioning and just never have any game sense for it so I often play tank to have some shot at surviving my own recklessness. Now I just need to learn to position in OW.

[@hardway4475]

I’ve been watching your content since Halo Infinite’s launch. I love your content and everything you’ve been doing. I’m very interested in working with you if there’s an opportunity.

[@Malxer]

would you mind sharing your video settings? Did you boost up brightness/saturation? Your game looks so sharp.

[@Midget.Muncher]

I would also like to know the settings.

[@grittytenacious6004]

Why must you roast me in the beginning? 😭

[@FennecEcho]

As a Peni main I pretty much only die when both healers die or if I push too far

[@supernovafox1]

I've been bouncing back and forth between plat 2-3 for a couple of days now and I know positioning is the thing i need to work on, but i feel like playing as tank (strange) alot of these tips aren't applicable, i know they are, but i don't see how i can translate them to my role.

[@nainjaftw]

i love how he literally has ONE black widow clip he uses in every video XD

[@SweetSourPickle]

Cloak and Dagger video please!

[@SureBub]

Broo my biggest pet peeve is when supports dont push up to heal. Just sit back when we have objective acting like its the rest of the teams fault for dying because "we pushed too far" when in reality we were only farming ulti and expecting our supports to ya know, support us. Not sit back spraying the ground and spamming fall back. Then bragging about your KD in voice. Like yea bro congratulations you stayed back when you easily couldve went up 10 feet and healed us. Instead 2 people died and now ur wasting your ults in a already lost fight. Thats why when im supp i always look out for my magik and other dive mains. I got yall lol

[@jaden577]

Exactly, playing a support isn’t as simple as, “I must stay in the back at all times and be a heal bot,” you have to learn to read the ebb and flow of a team fight and know how much you can impact it. There are times when falling back is the correct choice, but there are also times where pushing up and being aggressive with your team or even taking an off angle to support your dive dps is the correct choice. Right or wrong though, all it really comes down to is how does your team fare without you healing them? You’d think people would realize that their team doesn’t stand a chance without you in there healing them when their enemy is probably also getting healing.

[@ScareyBusey]

Hela hits me hard, then I walk away and watch the rest of my team die

[@sevaneken3461]

I need help guys i downloaded marvel rivals 4days ago and cant find a main. I main echo in ow2. I’ve tried iron man but he feels more like pharah to me

[@YesIndeedItsMe]

Thanks lad 🙏

[@Awz28]

Eshay

[@tsunderemerc2963]

A fool says "get gud", but a wise man asks, "HOW do I get gud?"

[@dr.shinigami9843]

All good and dandy, but my aim sucks on controller!

[@Guw4372]

Hawkeye can charge his bow without peeking? My understanding is he needs to be directly looking at an enemy to charge his bow up, isn’t it?

[@D_Jilla]

No

[@Niko-oe9qo]

he needs to be looking at them but due to the 3rd person camera he can charge on a right side peek without exposing himself

[@Zaczac111]

The charge is based on the reticule, which means you can have your character behind a wall but still have the reticule on an enemy.

[@itzzzRAMPAGE]

I realized one thing from watching higher elo clips for learning… my elo naruto runs to their death 😂

[@expattrading]

good positioning good, bad positioning bad. got it

[@ayabon3177]

would be better if u included examples n graphics man

[@davidmccune1575]

That's my issue I have to protect support and not follow tanks into the fray.

[@RazaDazza]

Nade catching strays

[@ScareyBusey]

Were you inspired to make this after watching all the matches I played eariler? I sucked way worse than usual this morning.

[@notdante1151]

This type of game is nothing new. The people who been playing TF2 to Overwatch and now to this would gradually have a better understanding of the game. Lots of people do not have the situation awareness. When they are in a fight all they worry about is looking straight ahead. Tank and supports usually fall into this tunnel vision situation. Just do a 360 scan every now and then to get a general of what's going on with your team and you will be greatly improve on the survival aspect of the game. DPS surprisingly are better at situational awareness. IDK why but most of the time when I ping for enemies in the back line the 1 who actually turn around and look are usually the DPSers. Same thing when I use the voice call for medic, instead of the support turning around and scan for medic call it's the DPSers.

[@twkandy7033]

I think it because the tanks are focus on tanking for the frontlines expecting the dps to take care of the close combat ambush dps usually.

[@jaden577]

@@twkandy7033true, but it also depends on what the enemy team is doing at the time, are they aggressively pushing up on your teams position from the front? Or are a majority of them (everyone but the dive dps pushing your back line) staying back and playing more passively waiting on their diver to pick off a support or two before pushing in? Cause if it’s the latter, then it’s better for the tank to turn and collapse on the diver with their team because dive dps usually don’t have a problem killing off supports and other dps characters even together if they’re targeting the right people first, the class they don’t have that luxury with is a 650-800+ health tank. Even if they manage to get away and you don’t kill the diver, crisis averted, your back line will have the time and space they need to regroup and heal and continue the push. But if they don’t feel pressured, dive dps can get away with a lot sometimes, especially Spider-Man.

[@TasosEG]

How/when do I dive as Venom? I'm struggling at Gold 1/Plat 3 right now. When I dive the enemy backline, I get into a fight (usually 1v2 or 1v3) with the enemy supports and although I don't get a kill, they don't kill me either, and when I disengage, my team is dead or even wiped. If I stay near my team, I farm less ult, and a teammate of mine dies to a Hela/Hawkeye/Magik and I can't protect them (like other tanks). I'm really in a predicament where I don't know where I should be. Even if I kill people while diving 1v2, my team still manages to lose and I really can't help them. Other times I'm near my team, I die and my team still doesn't capitalise on my death (meaning I tanked a lot of damage, and yet my team can't kill an enemy). What should I be doing?

[@nathanflinchum1153]

I’d say three things are possible. 1. It could just be as simple as your team not being better than the enemy, 2. Could just be an issue of communication or poor timing on the engagement, whether your team doesn’t see you diving fast enough or they weren’t ready even if they knew it was about to happen (could be down 1 or 2 people, or someone just wasn’t quite in position to capitalize on it) or 3. Try to burn the enemy support’s cooldowns and then move back to peel for your own team and then target dps or supports after that

[@TasosEG]

@@nathanflinchum1153 3. It's good advice, and I'll be trying that. 1. My team being worse, cannot be such a common occurrence (not impossible though, I haven't watched back the games I've played lately). 2. As for the lack of communication, it's something I've noticed myself too, but even when I do call my engages, nothing seems to happen. Everyone engages based on their "vibes" and not when it's needed. EU as a server, has a big communication issue in all games. For some reason, people refuse to talk or to even follow calls.

[@nathanflinchum1153]

@@TasosEG that definitely sounds like a comms issue then, but not necessarily on your end, if you’re calling things and your team doesn’t go with it, my best advice is to look at the situations you’re making calls in during a replay and try to see why your team may want to not go with a certain callout. During your games keep an eye on when your team is ready to go in, kinda “vibe” based as you’re saying but unfortunately if the other people on the team don’t go by comms you can’t really expect callouts like that to work as well sadly. The good news is that learning to adapt to what the team can be a skill in itself, if you can adapt quickly to your team it’ll help you with having more synergy generally across your matches, but it’s not a skill that’s gonna come without a lot of practice and time considering you have to be good enough at any given playstyle to switch between them as needed

[@TasosEG]

@nathanflinchum1153 thanks for the answer! 👍

[@nathanflinchum1153]

@@TasosEG for sure! Hope the advice helps 👍

[@skpcboy]

I swear to god. PLEASE at least show what you're talking about on screen, instead of random gameplay. That way you can at least convey your point much more easily. Keep in mind that 99% of people who are watching this are complete noobs who have no idea what you're talking about. It is very difficult for someone who has never played hero shooters to understand "Standing on the left peeking in your right" unless you are actively showing them what you're talking about in the video (without all the other distractions that takes the viewer away from the focus of what you're saying). Hop on a custom game or practice range and record instead. I hope your next videos are much better in this regard, thank you.

[@coach_mills]

Noted and will do better

[@westarrr]

Didn't really get much out of this as a tank main. Seems mostly catered to DPS players. Even as Thor, yeah sure you try to push people away from the high ground but that's about all the positioning tips I know when playing him. But what about Groot or Strange, who can't afford to dash around all the time

[@BearShot]

Wht u could do is just don’t make bad choices like pushing by yourself and just trying to act like ur gonna 1v5

[@westarrr]

@@BearShot That's a proper low hanging fruit innit

[@LegacyUntouched]

why does no one mention that it doesnt matter how good your positioning or game sense is if you dont hit your shots. countless times have i got snuck up on as a healer and womped them due to them missing. if you miss your shots, you just look like your not with the team and throwing.

[@neilhughes-nelson7708]

no one mentions it because it dosnt need to be mentioned this is a shooter no shit you have to hit your shots thats just a given no one is out here crying "hawkeyes 1 shot is bullshit" and thinking they need to specify "if he lands it"

[@majinrahl]

tell me what to do when strange teleports with ironfist and the whole team onto you as the healer at the start of the round. dogwater.

[@overthinker144]

This game really aught to add shoulder switching

[@liltacodaddy4002]

i have to kindly tell my team...im not going down there lol. youre too deep bro that greed got you smoked

[@jeffs3119]

Que endless teammates funneling through a choke with sniper units using the sight lines. then said teammates complain.

[@nintandao64]

Generally I think my positioning is fine, I get good windows to do stuff I just have potato aim 🤡

[@NarLyNaRdi]

Healers, keep yo azz on the back line. YOU’RE NOT A TANK!!

[@sheep9546]

I love to dive from above against strategists as thor because it confuses them half the time

[@havocgr1976]

I like to flank and push em to my team heheh,I think its time I learn Wolverine ;p

[@LoneRatatouille]

Wait there is no such thing as playing against hella

[@Carrera06GT]

See a lot of bad Venoms like this. Jump in and get melted.

[@Тимофейсхеперс-щ3д]

you dont need a cover when you are the cover - play tanks )). nvm its a joke good guide though thnx

[@dfs-sam]

put me in coach haha

[@HorribleMuttonChops]

4:11 The fact that you think Hawkeye can one-shot without peeking shows how little you know despite calling yourself a coach and "educating" everyone else. His charged up damage that is required to one-shot an enemy can only be charged when actively aiming at an enemy. Your videos amount to basic knowledge that even many people in low rank know, but you'll just repeat yourself ad nauseum with no substance, and shout it at the viewer in an attempt to sound like you're an authority.

[@BEELZEBRO666]

Wtf are you talking about bro kzbin.infoV6cRzIdXNGA?si=Is2S2lG0TwljVIy2

[@ExoticZah]

To Me My X-Men!!!

[@mgm8593]

I suggest Position as this: Tanks in Front Dps and Supp together in a Pyramid Line so they can quickly help each other Divers should always play around HP packs or near it

[@arwinnmaker4481]

w video

[@havocgr1976]

ROFL 11:33.

[@StonedTroopa]

Regardless, Great positioning can also depend on your aim. If it's garbage then this video is worthless. If your aim is ok. Then this video is also worthless lol... 😅

[@mnaderade17]

cool tips but not a positioning guide.

[@ravenfoxhound8835]

I have the High Ground... Hawkeye "You underestimate my power" 😂

[@liggerstuxin1]

Bleh 👎

[@CosmeGamerXD07]

uh i thought it was something else, i get killed max 8 times, most because they focus one or more ultimates against me, still good video

[@antoniomohr5190]

Early🙏

[@juianmoran]

The game is garbage when you dotn heave teammates fr 🤣👎🏽

[@roobertt6]

balls 🫡