Identifying Freight Locomotives: Train Talk Ep. 29

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CoasterFan2105

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@kevinb9327
@kevinb9327 4 жыл бұрын
No exaggeration. I don't think I EVER learned as much in 20 minutes! Thank you.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!
@Depth5
@Depth5 9 күн бұрын
Hey coaster What kind of Train is this? 4:05
@Eric5ohhh
@Eric5ohhh Ай бұрын
A lot of great info here. I live on Long Island and I love seeing MP15s still in service today whether it be on work trains like I saw in this video, standing by at Jamaica for rescue power, or seeing them on NYAR freight trains it’s awesome to see them so prominently
@jamielacourse7578
@jamielacourse7578 2 жыл бұрын
61 yrs old and I'm still learning. How many of us thought the SW meant switcher? I have since childhood. And we called them "pups"....great channel. And accurate.
@zachwilkinson9470
@zachwilkinson9470 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a good Train Talk topic would be on the theoretical and practical differences of AC traction vs DC traction.
@burlingtonbill1
@burlingtonbill1 4 жыл бұрын
THIS IS A GREAT VIDEO ! I have been watching trains for 50 years, but could never consistently tell modern locos apart. My grandson & I learned reliably how to do so here. The side-by-side pictures were powerful. Thanks !
@proudfoamer2
@proudfoamer2 2 жыл бұрын
Mike I applaud you. You got everything 100% right about both locomotive builders.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, John. Really appreciate it.
@FreihEitner
@FreihEitner 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I like that you didn't go way into the weeds but kept it to general concepts in this one. I also appreciate that you noted how the GEs and the EMDs _sound_ rather than just discussing their look. I'm sure there are plenty of people, like myself, with poor eyesight but who enjoy railroading.
@michaelpitcher733
@michaelpitcher733 3 жыл бұрын
I want to politely correct you about the EMD *-2* and *-3* units. The -2 units all began production post 1971. The newer electronics in them came directly from the production and testing of the DDA40X units built for the Union Pacific. It worked so well, that EMD decided to rework the electronics in all their locomotive series. The older GP units (pre 1972) were not as universally compatible for parts interchanging as the new -2 series, and also had non-standard frame lengths. Post 1971 came with 1 basic frame for the entire GPxx-2 series, with many interchangeable components to make the individual locomotives the customer needed. Parts from a GP39-2 would fit perfectly into/onto a GP40-2 or a GP38-2. The -3 units were never actually a production line of EMD, but rather a rebuild/refresh of older units in need of upgrade. Some done by EMD, some done by other shops such as MK.
@kylegalen6863
@kylegalen6863 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to figure out the term for the high nose cabs for about two years now. Thank the good Lord you exist.
@mattcwell
@mattcwell 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
@mile290productions3
@mile290productions3 4 жыл бұрын
7:57 *_that bell is going super speed!_*
@mile290productions3
@mile290productions3 4 жыл бұрын
@Cory Child DIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDIDING
@j.sterling9167
@j.sterling9167 3 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha! Good old GE U-Boats, slow, noisy locomotives, so fun to maintain. Believe me, there is a very noticeable sound difference between a jeep and a U-Boat.
@LEE_1076
@LEE_1076 7 ай бұрын
0:36 That horn in the background is MONSTROUS!!! Do you have a video of the original clip? (Not to be rude, but without the talking?) I wanna use it for one or my games I make on Roblox (and Scratch). Anyways, keep up the good work, Mike! ❤🚂❤
@MoodyBlue42..
@MoodyBlue42.. 3 жыл бұрын
This is the video that clinched it for me. Then I noticed all of the beautiful scenery in the other videos and I was hooked. I come home from work and throw your channel on the TV and let it play which is driving my wife crazy 😁 thanks from a new subscriber!!
@eezyclsmooth9035
@eezyclsmooth9035 4 жыл бұрын
This video is a Railfans dream ! Crystal clear beautiful photography and lots of meaningful information. Most other train video pale in comparison. Watching this for the 1st time my thought,"Oh yeah sign me up with a sub".
@JTelli786
@JTelli786 4 жыл бұрын
"High hood" well I'm glad I watched this now. There's a small freight company a few miles from where I live and almost all of their locomotives are high hoods but I never knew what that style was called, ty!
@gerlinpic1
@gerlinpic1 4 жыл бұрын
Technically, they're "high short hoods" -- all long hoods on locomotives are "high" (in height), but only some "short" (in lengh) hoods are high. Norfolk & Western and Southern, at one time, always had diesels with high short hoods, and ran them long hood first for safety reasons.
@railifornia
@railifornia 4 жыл бұрын
You can distinguish between EMD and GE locomotives by their fuel tanks. EMD Locomotives have a smooth, rounded tanks while a GE locomotive has a chiseled tank.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a good point!
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 3 жыл бұрын
5:25 They also share the same, Blomberg style trucks used by the MP series.
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 3 жыл бұрын
5:37 Raydeeayters
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 3 жыл бұрын
5:28
@tom-and-mom
@tom-and-mom 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 Frdamostpart
@4L39Larry
@4L39Larry 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this. The Second Diesel Spotter’s Guide just does not answer many current questions.
@drtalkboxsa9412
@drtalkboxsa9412 3 жыл бұрын
Best doccie so far. In South Africa our rail network was mostly electrified, but since last year the electrical infrastructure was neglected, including the metro urban multiple units. Now newer generation diesels from GE are taking over
@bruceritchie3874
@bruceritchie3874 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for a very informative video Mike. Great show!
@coolleo149
@coolleo149 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda like all of the EMD and GE freight locomotives. I just want all of the locomotives to continue on 2021
@meganslattery873
@meganslattery873 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@danielrochadasilva3260
@danielrochadasilva3260 4 жыл бұрын
L
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
A good number of them will!
@priyankabhowmick3749
@priyankabhowmick3749 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoasterFan2105 to by 7
@Cal90208
@Cal90208 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Leo.
@nathancorcoran5347
@nathancorcoran5347 4 жыл бұрын
There were three companies that built freight locomotives. EMD, GE, & ALCO. Right now only EMD and GE are in service.
@rickboivin7732
@rickboivin7732 4 жыл бұрын
And EMD went from being owned by General Motors to spun off and is now a subsidiary of Progress Rail, a subsidiary of Caterpillar. Meanwhile GE Transportation was recently merged into Wabtec. They might be moving away from their origins, but they survive. I don't think Siemens is interested in making North American freight locomotives but they're cutting into the passenger market. Not sure how much GE or EMD values the passenger diesel market, but EMD have brought the F125 to market.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's interesting to see how things have evolved. Baldwin and Fairbanks-Morse also used to build diesels many years ago.
@jonathanparker2939
@jonathanparker2939 4 жыл бұрын
Plenty of ALCOs still around, some in freight service in NE PA.
@pqhkr2002
@pqhkr2002 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoasterFan2105 Many steam locomotive factories tried to build diesel locomotives, but no one survive.
@odurandina
@odurandina 4 жыл бұрын
what are the cabless units alternating with those gondola's at about 11:30 of the video??
@stevenspassrailfan5284
@stevenspassrailfan5284 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you put 563’s RS3L in the intro!
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
I had to do it!
@g-manonthego6678
@g-manonthego6678 4 жыл бұрын
The RS3L is a nice-sounding horn. It would actually make an excellent ring tone.
@stevenspassrailfan5284
@stevenspassrailfan5284 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Lodato it’s the best sounding horn in my opinion
@mattyoung2297
@mattyoung2297 4 жыл бұрын
It real does sound good.
@m1lkcarton698
@m1lkcarton698 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattyoung2297 rip 563
@racing8872
@racing8872 4 жыл бұрын
I worked for EMD Macook IL. in the Engine Rebuild Division in 1979 Great place to work
@Heyo_Souluxy
@Heyo_Souluxy 4 жыл бұрын
The SD70ACU's are really unique in my opinion. Only 2 railroads in NA have these locos being CP and NS. CP SD70ACU's used to be SD90MAC'S but they were rebuilt due to cab and power issues
@AVeryRandomPerson
@AVeryRandomPerson 4 жыл бұрын
NSs used to be UP SD90MACs.
@Slim_Slid
@Slim_Slid Жыл бұрын
Norfolk Southern acquired those SD9043MAC's from Union Pacific because they were dirt cheap valued and already had issues. Before the rebuilding,certain amounts of them already had cracks in the frames. The only good updates on the SD70ACU rebuilds was using electronics from Mitsubishi instead of keeping the pathetic Siemens electronics for them. The dynamic braking on them sucks even though Norfolk Southern wants to keep 45 of them on coal drags while 27 are used anywhere and the rest are being scrapped by PRLX. Canadian Pacific only rebuilt 30 of their own SD9043MAC's into the SD70ACU's while the rest are still in storage.They also purchased six of the SD80MAC's from PRLX to use as parts donors for this. They were running 39 SD9043MAC's from Union Pacific that also came at cheap cost but have been wanting to get rid of them as well.
@brianhickey5949
@brianhickey5949 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great education - I look forward to more :) I grew up about a mile from ALCo in Schenectady, NY and those were some cool locomotives. They went the way of the buggy whip, but would be easy to spot on the rails today. EMD is Caterpillar now and GE is something else and so the wheels of progress roll. I just enjoy watching and learning from the many great railfan videos on You Tube.
@nakayle
@nakayle 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. I've been wondering which one I should get to impress my neighbors.
@BannerJames
@BannerJames 2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, thank you for the information.
@charlesbissey9901
@charlesbissey9901 4 жыл бұрын
As a former caterpillar mechanic I worked on d11 dozers and the main reason locomotives are using caterpillar engines is 1. Because they are reliable. 2 if they break pretty much any caterpillar technician or diesel mechanic can fix them. 3. Parts are really easy to find
@johnbeaulieu2404
@johnbeaulieu2404 4 жыл бұрын
No large North American freight locomotive uses Caterpillar diesel engines, the Cat diesel engines you aree familiar with don't much like the duty cycle of mainline freight locomotives. Several railroads tried them and they failed. In Europe they seem to work with the differing usage, and EMD's new passenger locomotives use them.
@craftpaint1644
@craftpaint1644 4 жыл бұрын
The Caterpillar factory is impressive, keep America strong.
@Slim_Slid
@Slim_Slid Жыл бұрын
​@@johnbeaulieu2404 There is actually and only the SD70AH-T4's which use Caterpillar 1010J's that were based on the EMD 265H's in the SD90MAC's a long time ago. The 1010J's actually turned out to be much more reliable than the junk 265H's,but everything else about those units just sucks. The very first large units in an attempt that used Caterpillar motors were the MK5000C's with the 3612's.All six had numerous complaints about crankshafts being damaged severely. Utah Railway saved them after Southern Pacific was no more and eventually rebuilt them into MK5000-3's with EMD 645F's but using 645E3 assemblies.
@6777Productions
@6777Productions 4 жыл бұрын
Grandfather painted trains for GE in Erie, PA and one of my uncle's used to work on wiring new locomotives as well in Erie. While I understand some people love their EMD's or Alcos or what not, I'll always be a GE fan for life, even if they don't produce locomotives anymore
@stellarfs-yt7360
@stellarfs-yt7360 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this cause I would never know the difference between GEVO, Dash 9, AC4400CW, and the Dash 8.... I learned the difference a bit ago, but it's good to have a refresher....
@ut000bs
@ut000bs 4 жыл бұрын
Which sounds best, GE or EMD? Heh. Both. I want to thank you for this. I love trains and have a few subs to some great channels. My problem is I don't know much about engines and haven't learnedmuch. I see those I like and don't know what they are. This video, and series, fills a need I've not come across before and I have to thank you for that. This is a great video and you have a new subscriber.
@o_l_w
@o_l_w 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video another way to tell apart the -8s from -9s is the grill behind the cab is longer on a -9 and shorter on the -9 if you are on the engineer side of the AC44CW you can’t see the big box so to tell it apart from a -9 you look in the same section and the AC44CW has more grills I use this method
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, that's true too! Thanks!
@STN10
@STN10 4 жыл бұрын
The slanted mesh-screens below the radiators are the easiest way to to tell GE series apart: Dash-8 = one big screen (sometimes devided in the middle) AC44/Dash-9 = 2 screens, rear one slightly longer AC60 = 2 screens, both same length (front one often devided in the mide) ES = 3 screens, the frontmost clearly at a different angle ET = 4 screens. (The entire readiator unit is at a steeper angle compared to other series)
@JA17SBLVIIIMVP
@JA17SBLVIIIMVP 4 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of GE's. Such monsters.
@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202
@ironhorsethrottlemaster5202 4 жыл бұрын
The reasons why EMD and GE sound so different is EMD is a two-stroke. Engine and the GE is a 4-stroke diesel engine that's why it makes that different chug sound good job coasterfan2105
@ConfusedNyan
@ConfusedNyan 4 жыл бұрын
Though it sounds like the GE 7FDL and GEVO engines run at a slower speed than the four-stroke engines used by EMD which are by Caterpillar (though I need to look at videos of EMD Tier 4 freight locos; I'm basing what I'm hearing on the EMD F125, a passenger loco, which itself uses a Caterpillar V20 four-stroke).
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 4 жыл бұрын
The EMD sound is that of the "Real Man's Diesel".
@Upguy-tj3gv
@Upguy-tj3gv 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@JA17SBLVIIIMVP
@JA17SBLVIIIMVP 3 жыл бұрын
If you like wimpier sounding locos, then yes, yes it is.
@jcoats1203
@jcoats1203 3 жыл бұрын
Brick Tamland I’m not sure you would feel that way if you had to operate them. EMD’s load up so much faster and in my mind they pull harder and much smoother. But everything is a matter of opinion.
@JA17SBLVIIIMVP
@JA17SBLVIIIMVP 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcoats1203 Most of the G.E.'s that I've ran have taken a lower throttle gear to start pulling. And less sand. Also have better adhesion.
@Slim_Slid
@Slim_Slid Жыл бұрын
​@@jcoats1203 Not soo much opinion,but this is literally just factors and statistics. EMD units are great at loading traction much quicker but slack on tractive effort in comparison to alot of GE units.When there's local iobs and switching to be done any EMD is reliable for that,or if you just want to get on the move fast. Dealing with serious weight like coal and rock for example,GE is the way to go on that. GE has managed to build everlasting traction motors with astounding tractive effort and incredible dynamic braking over the years.Those three aspects are where EMD has been falling away from results for a long time. Problems have been here and there after the GP40-2's & SD40-2's were discontinued.However when EMD debuted AC traction motors and HTC R trucks for the SD70 series it was really good at first but then GE improved their own components soon after and overthrew EMD on results. EMD has retained their notoriety of quickly loading traction motors,both DC & AC,and obviously the 567,645,and 710 series which will outlive the units themselves and not catch on fire like the GE 7FDL's & 7HDL's. Although it is true that there is probably many more EMD units still around after all these years,almost all modern mainline usage is entirely compromised of GE power at this point while GE rebuilds are starting to be equal if not more than EMD rebuilds. GE is also cheaper than EMD and it's easier to deal with them being more fuel efficient and EPA compliant since they're four stroke.The EPA was the worst thing that actually put down EMD because their durable two stroke motors can't pass modern emissions regulations.This is why they developed exhaust manifold silencers and why business has been great within stationary and marine apparatus where emissions testing is irrelevant. In simple summary,any EMD units are mechanically the most reliable but everything else for dealing with serious tonnage is credit to GE.
@ThatOneMichiganRailfan
@ThatOneMichiganRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! It’s here! I’ve seen BNSF 563 before.
@DOTD-Ko7382
@DOTD-Ko7382 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a rebuilt 8-40BW (B40-8W)?
@TheTrainExpert
@TheTrainExpert 4 жыл бұрын
@@DOTD-Ko7382 its a B40-8 not B40-8W
@DOTD-Ko7382
@DOTD-Ko7382 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrainExpert The BNSF 560-570 series actually have the carbody of a B40-8W, but rebuilt to a standard-width cab. Thus, the "W" only means a Wide Cab.
@TheTrainExpert
@TheTrainExpert 3 жыл бұрын
@@DOTD-Ko7382 563 was always a B40-8 ever since she was built back in the 80s, BNSF just re-numbered them so they won't interfere with other engines
@DOTD-Ko7382
@DOTD-Ko7382 3 жыл бұрын
​@@TheTrainExpert Umm... oh. 563 was actually ATSF 7413, also a standard cab. these dang BNSF numbers
@403M4K
@403M4K 4 күн бұрын
Beautiful, never saw a locomotives in real life thanks for sharing!
@tonnyyyzzzplays7309
@tonnyyyzzzplays7309 4 жыл бұрын
I usually stick in Passenger trains, thank you for helping me identify these frieght trains, I’ll be on the look out for these freight trains. Thank you Mike :)
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome and thanks! Glad you liked the video. I always used to be more into passenger operations but over the years, I've become more and more interested in freight too.
@glocke380
@glocke380 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of great shots from in and around Bellingham!
@jefferywalsh5687
@jefferywalsh5687 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@scotteakins7203
@scotteakins7203 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone is tackling this. I stopped rail fanning back in the late 70's. Due to my career. Last hot new Loco's then were SD 40-2, & GE U 30 series. Still can tell them apart. But these new ones are difficult to identify.
@todus2
@todus2 4 жыл бұрын
Great video , thank you . I also think a easy way to tell the difference between a EMD and a GE is the fuel tanks and air tanks on the side above the tanks on EMD's . .
@premiercc7760
@premiercc7760 4 жыл бұрын
This was the best explanation of the different types of engines. I've always wanted to know how they were different! Great job!
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thejack6469
@thejack6469 4 жыл бұрын
As a beginner to American trains I found that very useful (you are also easy to follow when you speak, I'm talking as a non-native english speaker). Good video, greetings from Italy!
@thejack6469
@thejack6469 4 жыл бұрын
ps: where did you shoot the first video of the BNSF' freight with theB40-8 and the B unit?
@capefeartrainsandsirens
@capefeartrainsandsirens 4 жыл бұрын
This will help a lot!! Thanks Coaster :D
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
@harrysaliba1848
@harrysaliba1848 3 жыл бұрын
WOW, I am just getting into trainspotting and half these shots are right from my office in Bellingham WA! I can even see my office in the opening shot!
@tr00th
@tr00th 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. You’re a really great teacher when it comes to learning about railfaning. I’ve learned so much from your videos. Keep up the awesome work. Thanks!
@CyPhi68
@CyPhi68 3 жыл бұрын
Starting at about 20:00 , I appreciated the discussion of the sound differences. During that, you showed several intermodal trains and I had the stray thought that if people waiting at crossings and getting impatient would realize that every one of those containers means a truck that is not on the road, maybe they would be more understanding.
@charlesrhett
@charlesrhett 3 жыл бұрын
Dang i will always love these trains and im looking forward to work for the railroad
@ron5935
@ron5935 4 жыл бұрын
It is so easy. There is a builder plate on EMD under frames near the cab. Do not know about those foreign locos.
@mrmrlee
@mrmrlee 3 жыл бұрын
I won't remember everything first time watching, but the hood difference was definitely a great tip, thanks for this video!
@Luke-A
@Luke-A 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how i got here 😕 but watched all the way through nice learning new things.
@outasightaquatics1905
@outasightaquatics1905 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Several facts I did not know. Thanks for your effort in putting together a quality program. You keep teaching . . . I'll keep watching!
@AVeryRandomPerson
@AVeryRandomPerson 4 жыл бұрын
Do a Train Talk about how locomotive design changed after the 1982 deregulation of Freight Railroads.
@intergalactic_butterfly
@intergalactic_butterfly 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneMichiganRailfan It's a good idea though, and he does take requests.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting idea! I'll look into that for a future episode.
@shivpalmeena5847
@shivpalmeena5847 4 жыл бұрын
B
@brianburns7211
@brianburns7211 4 жыл бұрын
I don't thing that locomotives changed that drastic because of deregulation. The common theme seems to be for larger locomotives. In my career, it used to take 4 SD40s to power a train. Laer it was 3 SD60s/C40-8, and now just a pair of AC.
@JA17SBLVIIIMVP
@JA17SBLVIIIMVP 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoasterFan2105 Have you looked into this?
@conceyullena
@conceyullena 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!! Beautiful video! Greetings from Spain 🚂👍📽️🔝
@average_joe8905
@average_joe8905 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Mike! Can't wait to see the other parts!!!
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
@thingscreatedbyjamie2914
@thingscreatedbyjamie2914 3 жыл бұрын
My four-year-old loves your videos. thank you for making them
@Erickderec
@Erickderec 3 жыл бұрын
There at 5:09 I’ve seen that train it’s at the Tacoma waterfront I’ve seen it many times
@Bobuno22
@Bobuno22 4 жыл бұрын
9:29 this is filmed at Harpers Ferry in West Virginia, along with 14:03
@epitacia
@epitacia 4 жыл бұрын
thanks
@carlpeduzzi3780
@carlpeduzzi3780 4 жыл бұрын
Forgive me if someone has already stated this, but another way to tell EMD from GE is the fuel tanks. The EMD have a curved fuel tank, or, in the case of the SD70ACe, a lightly chiseled “curved tank”. The GE fuel tanks are very much chiseled with air reservoirs embedded into the fuel tank on the right side (engineer) of the locomotive. There are a few exceptions to this, but, for the most part, this visual indicator works.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
That is another good example. There are a few different things that I could have used, I just decided to go with the trucks, nose/cab, and radiator. But the fuel tank is a very good example, too.
@g-manonthego6678
@g-manonthego6678 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I really like the RS3L horn at the beginning! I do want to add a couple more features about the EMD’s and GE’s. In the EMD series, all of them (minus the Tier 4 ACe and SD90) use 2-stroke engines, while all GE’s use 4-stroke engines. Also, there are 2 ways to distinguish DC traction GE’s from their AC counterparts: the DC GE’s have either the floating bolster, “Adirondack” (for the six-axle Dash 8’s), or High Adhesion trucks, while the AC GE’s have either the latter trucks or steerable trucks and their traction motors make a sort of moaning noise. Lastly, one way to tell EMD’s and GE’s apart are their air compressors: the former locomotives have regular sounding air releases, while the latter have a unique “whooping” noise every few seconds.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Those are good points! Thank you for adding that!
@SleepTrain456
@SleepTrain456 4 жыл бұрын
Now I know the difference between a GE and EMD locomotive! I have heard of how the EMD GP and SD locomotives are different (as well as the GE B/C thing, plus how the GE standard cab is different from the EMD one), but thanks to this video, I can now check out the locomotive to see what manufacturer it is, even with modern wide-cabs. The wide-cabs and the engine sounds are different, and so, I can add these hints to my array of railfanning tips. Where an EMD SD70ACe ends and a GE Evolution begins.
@bluecedar7914
@bluecedar7914 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, a good simple guide to identifying wide cab U.S. locomotives.
@ceridyan2910
@ceridyan2910 4 жыл бұрын
So many great trains...👍
@valeriebassett3107
@valeriebassett3107 4 жыл бұрын
Wow what a good video. You are one very smart young man!!! I'm glad you don't have us take a test. I think I will have to watch this series several times.
@dfwrailvideos
@dfwrailvideos 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a Train talk about ALco, It'd be interesting for sure :D
@LeeDfined
@LeeDfined 3 жыл бұрын
They have a few in northern PA and NY on Western New York and Pennsylvania.
@tanay_20037
@tanay_20037 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video. It was very helpful. Thank you!
@PresidentOfQuadrepeda
@PresidentOfQuadrepeda 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard of the SD70ACE, the EMD SW8, the GP30, and the Dash-8.
@anthonyshobbycorner
@anthonyshobbycorner 3 жыл бұрын
Great video .. pleasure to watch .. and learned a lot in the process .. thank you ..
@yourpusher7
@yourpusher7 4 жыл бұрын
1:21 ...and then he demolished the footbridge ?
@garyharrall4002
@garyharrall4002 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Loved it. I'm working on starting my own HO scale model train layout and it will be nice to know the differences in the locomotives. Thankyou.
@fredtedstedman
@fredtedstedman 4 жыл бұрын
when they have multiple headers , with different companys locos , how do they decide who pays the diesel ?? must get confusing .Thanks for sharing this , I am interested in diesel traction in US but I dentification is a bit of a mystery . Wales UK.
@johnbeaulieu2404
@johnbeaulieu2404 4 жыл бұрын
There is a company owned equally by the seven large railroads in North America called Railinc which operates a database of every locomotive and freight car in North America including their relevant specifications called UMLER (Uniform Machine Language Equipment Register). It also maintains a database of the last reported position of each item on that register. Each locomotive and car has an RFID tag on both the side sills, which is read by sensors along the line. Each railroad maintains a listing of the locomotives and the time it moves from their railroad to one of the other six railroads (seven if you count Ferromex in Mexico). The numbers are count by hours times the horsepower of the locomotive. At the end of each month the Accounting departments compare what each railroad owes each of the others. Usually much of the numbers cancel out, but if necessary money changes hands. Also if say BNSF sends a loco to NS and then NS sends the loco to CSX, BNSF considers NS as the debtor until they get it back while NS will charge CSX for the BNSF loco it sent to CSX.
@richardjellis9186
@richardjellis9186 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just the electronics that the 'dash' denotes. It can mean it's had quite a few modifications, including, larger fuel tanks, newer prime mover generators, and, final drive motors. Or, am I wrong.?🤔?.... Please advise.!🧐!.
@stuatbendigo
@stuatbendigo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! The video quality of this video is one of the best I have seen on YT! Thanks also for the tips on GE v EMD. We have both here in Australia, but I think they may be modified versions - not sure though. Need someone to do a video like yours on the different GE and EMD Locos in Oz! Will be checking out your other videos - thanks again - Stu
@valdrex3531
@valdrex3531 4 жыл бұрын
This video was extremely helpful! Thank you!
@gatortrainchaser2080
@gatortrainchaser2080 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very INFORMATIVE video!! Thanks for sharing!!! :D
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Gary! Glad you liked it!
@MarkAnthonyHenderson
@MarkAnthonyHenderson 4 жыл бұрын
This a beautifully well done video with great examples. Thank you!
@stupidsmart-phone6911
@stupidsmart-phone6911 3 жыл бұрын
Good overview. The only other things to add is how GE rearranged is nomenclature with the dash 8s. It could be written B40-8 or Dash 8-40B, etcetera for all other models. I think that actually started with Dash 9 and was retroactively applied to Dash 8, but never to Dash 7s. Also when identifying standard cabs EMD has a wedge point where GE has snub noses. The U and Dash 7 nose very hard to tell apart, that's why you have to look at the radiator: flared in Dash 7, not flared on U. The Dash 8 standard nose was larger, had some angles, but a flat front. Last note on GEs, U25 and U28 (B or C versions) were the only ones with a short step up about 1/4 distance from the rear. I know that's all out of scope for this video but it's interesting to trace some characteristics that have carried forward from the first Uboat to the newest locomotive. And Alco was not part of this topic, but GE has some similarities with Alco which I think those 2 competed hard against each other, GE obviously winning. Lastly overall, a brief word should be said about long hood forward running configuration that Southern, Norfolk & Western, and finally Norfolk Southern ordered for their locomotives all the way up to the last Dash 8 standard cab, I'm not sure about the last EMD they ran like that. When the FRA mandated wide cab that pretty much ended all factory long hood forward configuration. If you want to ever delve into AC and DC traction there's a good presentation on slideshare titled "The Merits of AC vs DC Locomotives".
@thorinbane
@thorinbane 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you this was very helpful. Getting back into HO and wanted a little break down of models
@roswatteamplays8241
@roswatteamplays8241 4 жыл бұрын
I love ur wooden train vids!
@squiblift2019
@squiblift2019 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Good overall general description of the differences in the most common locomotives.
@Zackman217
@Zackman217 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a good video. I’ll be able to tell the difference between freight locomotive from now on. Someday in the future we might have electric locomotive on freight routes.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
There are a few of them on some regional railroads, but that's about it. Maybe more in the future, probably as battery units more likely than not. Thanks for watching!
@natejackson8213
@natejackson8213 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike. My favorite GE locomotive I like is the Dash 8-32BWH
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Nate!
@brianburns7211
@brianburns7211 4 жыл бұрын
You’d better take Dramamine before riding in one though. The trucks they have are very poor riding.
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 4 жыл бұрын
I like that you covered the difference in sound between the EMD and GE engines. I use the term "rhythmic chant" to describe the EMD noise, and "choppy" to describe the GE. The EMD basically sounds like its running twice as fast as the GE. I was surprised that you didn't point out that EMD's have round fan housings on their roofs, and GE's don't. Is that a reliable characteristic for locomotive spotting?
@rickboivin7732
@rickboivin7732 4 жыл бұрын
I discovered the GE chug the second time Amtrak dropped me (and others) on the platform on the edge of town at 5:30 am. All there was to hear was those two P42's. I never expected that sound.
@ellisjackson3355
@ellisjackson3355 4 жыл бұрын
I like that sound characteristic a lot
@TranscontinentalRailfan
@TranscontinentalRailfan 4 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your train talk videos and learn something from them. I really like the shot at @14:55. I've railfanned at Clifton, VA alot and it is a nice spot.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! And yes, Clifton is a nice spot!
@larrymcneil8038
@larrymcneil8038 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that gevo sound
@jamessutton9319
@jamessutton9319 4 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful and I enjoyed it very much. Please do a follow-on soon.
@roxleyldc
@roxleyldc 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative and you have answered a lot of questions I was wondering about. Thanks!
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 4 жыл бұрын
you haven't mentioned the variation to the front of the ge's delivered to rio tinto in north western australia. (i wouldn't really expect you to have noticed. they're not in north america). rio tinto must have ordered the spec especially for themselves. they have what i believe is called teardrop shaped windows with the nose lines adapted to suit.
@TommyPicklesFan
@TommyPicklesFan 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Episode! Now I know about Freight Locomotives whatever I go Trackside to film them.
@thetrainsport
@thetrainsport 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I always want to know the types of engines of the top of my head and this helps a lot 😃🚂
@csxchicagoline5523
@csxchicagoline5523 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks for sharing!
@jessestarks3128
@jessestarks3128 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation this helped a lot.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad it helped!
@graphtonix6607
@graphtonix6607 4 жыл бұрын
I love the GP15-1 locomotives.
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
They're pretty neat!
@abean1715
@abean1715 2 жыл бұрын
epik educational video about types of locomotives
@TheMCClellanSpotter
@TheMCClellanSpotter 4 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful thanks :)
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching! :)
@4014fan
@4014fan 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video!!!!!! I See GE and EMD locomotives on the CSX trains I railfan
@CoasterFan2105
@CoasterFan2105 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! CSX still has quite a large variety of locomotives running around.
@4014fan
@4014fan 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoasterFan2105 They sure do!! Your content is Awesome!!!!!! My favorite video that you made was Steam Trains Galore the first one I remember watching it around the time I first Subscribed!
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