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Valravn off-ride HD @60fps Cedar Point

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8 жыл бұрын

Like most of the roller coasters at Cedar Point, this B&M (Bolliger & Mabillard) dive machine broke the records for the tallest, fastest and longest coaster of its type in the world. It stands 223 feet tall, 3415 feet long, with a top speed of 75 mph and features a 90° drop, a 165 foot tall Immelmann, a dive loop, as well as a zero-g roll.
Cedar Point, also known as "America's Roller Coast", is located in Sandusky, Ohio.
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@jaredn.5038
@jaredn.5038 8 жыл бұрын
Most badass feeling in the world riding a roller coaster for the first time ever and walking over to your parents at the End like " yeah I just did that "😂
@usernamesarehard8147
@usernamesarehard8147 7 жыл бұрын
Jared Novak 😂😂😂😂😂
@tylerlovett6242
@tylerlovett6242 6 жыл бұрын
Damn you’re a badass dude
@billiscool7647
@billiscool7647 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i need to do this
@matthiasgerson8245
@matthiasgerson8245 11 ай бұрын
And me too.
@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od
@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od 6 ай бұрын
Nah Not Really But I've Been A Coaster Enthusiast For Over 7 Years
@ItsTimDatMan
@ItsTimDatMan 8 жыл бұрын
I GOT ON THAT, THE VERTICAL DROP AINT NO JOKE!
@laserdisc688
@laserdisc688 8 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna ride this next week. Is the drop really that bad? Maverick's drop is definitely steep but I don't remember it being that bad.
@ItsTimDatMan
@ItsTimDatMan 8 жыл бұрын
it's really is...it's really is -_-
@punkrockstarz2
@punkrockstarz2 8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Byers it isn't bad at all
@Spud17593
@Spud17593 8 жыл бұрын
its the best part of the ride! the barrel roll right after the dive loop is sooooooo much fun its makes you feel like your going in slow motion and you feel so weighless
@SigmaPhonkBabyGronk
@SigmaPhonkBabyGronk 6 жыл бұрын
TechxGamer it’s fun as rat testies
@markmatheisl2960
@markmatheisl2960 7 жыл бұрын
I love how at 2:07 a train just goes over the Top Thrill Dragster in the background. That was an amazing coincidence.
@ethanrobertson670
@ethanrobertson670 8 жыл бұрын
This ride looks way bigger in person
@KyleJPie10
@KyleJPie10 8 жыл бұрын
Not really, millie and dragster tower over it and make it seem smaller than it really is
@ethanrobertson670
@ethanrobertson670 8 жыл бұрын
KyleJPie10 I know that they both tower over Valravn, but valravn still looks smaller in videos or pictures
@kdaleboley
@kdaleboley 8 жыл бұрын
It does indeed. The "train/car" is huge. The track is seriously bulking looking also.
@MrFlightdeckfan
@MrFlightdeckfan 7 жыл бұрын
So are the tracks. They're pretty bigger than Rougarou, Gatekeeper, and Raptor.
@superchicken6296
@superchicken6296 6 жыл бұрын
Ikr I went there in 2016 and it was HUGE until I saw dragster lol
@AGprojectmetal
@AGprojectmetal 8 жыл бұрын
Rode this in the front 3 times yesterday. Amazing attraction... Easily one of my favorites. At night, It was memorable
@TaylorRad2000
@TaylorRad2000 8 жыл бұрын
As a coaster nerd and someone who has ridden Valravn many times, I find this ride terrifying. Seriously. Then end seat, front row - it's absolutely terrifying!!!
@usernamesarehard8147
@usernamesarehard8147 7 жыл бұрын
Taylor R 😂😂😂😂😂
@xlhits
@xlhits 3 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@jacobbob09
@jacobbob09 8 жыл бұрын
Valravn was awesome! I rode it opening day after waiting 2 hours and 15 minutes in line. When I got off, the Fast Lane was a 30 minute wait! That's like waiting in the normal line for anything else (except Top Thrill Dragster)!
@theblacesquire2456
@theblacesquire2456 3 жыл бұрын
That 1st drop doesn't play no games 🤣🤣
@MoeMerkin
@MoeMerkin 7 жыл бұрын
Best drop in the park. I didn't want to admit it because Millennium Force is so good.
@thisarobbry3226
@thisarobbry3226 7 жыл бұрын
Would've been better with restraints like Sheikra's
@therideanalyst6794
@therideanalyst6794 6 жыл бұрын
Hard over the shoulder restraints? Hell na miss me with that I’ll take the vest restraints.
@brycefourn2001
@brycefourn2001 8 жыл бұрын
AWESOME OFF RIDE VIDEO! I was so surprised and happy to find this on my subscriptions feed. Can't wait for the 4K and HD POVs of Valravn! :-)
@coasterforce
@coasterforce 8 жыл бұрын
Cedar Point doesn't allow anyone to film on their rides, so you'll only be able to view what the park has posted on their KZbin channel as far as POVs are concerned.
@brycefourn2001
@brycefourn2001 8 жыл бұрын
+CoasterForce Oh alright :(
@coaster_crusader
@coaster_crusader 8 жыл бұрын
Haven't you filmed on their rides before? I've sen POVs of Wicked Twister and Maverick on other youtube pages, including yours
@brycefourn2001
@brycefourn2001 8 жыл бұрын
+Crusader Cat No, but I have filmed one off ride video of GateKeeper
@coaster_crusader
@coaster_crusader 8 жыл бұрын
I have numerous clips of Gatekeeper's Keyholes at the front entrance while I was in Ohio. I want to go back to gain off ride shots for Valravn and Millennium
@sethwalters830
@sethwalters830 8 жыл бұрын
I'm going to Cedar Point in a couple weeks!! I'm so excited last time I went the newest roller coaster was the Gatekeeper, I haven't been in so long!!!
@CoasterFanatics
@CoasterFanatics 8 жыл бұрын
awesome ride! I look forward to riding this in July.
@universalsoul7653
@universalsoul7653 8 жыл бұрын
Nice coaster and great channel man! :-) awesome filming...
@ThunderDragonRandy
@ThunderDragonRandy 8 жыл бұрын
My favorite roller coaster by far! I went to Cedar Point last week for the first time when I was on vacation. The waiting line for this new ride for me was 2 hours (so popular!) while every other coaster were like 5 minutes line wait.
@GermiesCoasterYard
@GermiesCoasterYard 8 жыл бұрын
That is cause this one is brand new, so everyone wants to ride it.
@ThunderDragonRandy
@ThunderDragonRandy 8 жыл бұрын
+TheCubicBeat - Exactly. That's what I also thought.
@kaiyavasquez9377
@kaiyavasquez9377 8 жыл бұрын
do you happen to remember what the wait was for the fast lane? I'm considering buying those, I want to find out if they're worth it lol
@coasterforce
@coasterforce 8 жыл бұрын
When we were there filming the regular queue line was about 90 minutes and the fast lane was only 10 minutes.
@Jayjay4750
@Jayjay4750 8 жыл бұрын
+Fall Out Boy Trash went Monday, with fast lane it's 5-10 mins later in the day
@mjones30xd
@mjones30xd Жыл бұрын
I lost my phone on this ride lmao but overall great dive coaster can’t wait to get back to this park after 3 years!
@Bnizzofashizzo
@Bnizzofashizzo 5 жыл бұрын
I finally rode this yesterday. COuple things, i get why enthusiasts don't get so excited over B&M's but this was a good ride. I liked Sheikra a bit more from a theming standpoint but the view on this is wonderful. I've also read comments that the vests limit the ride? i didn't think so at all. So, CP was smart with adding this attraction.
@forliberty1805
@forliberty1805 6 жыл бұрын
Go here mid-week during the third or fourth week of August after all the kids have gone back to school. There's hardly any wait time on any of the rides.
@Spud17593
@Spud17593 8 жыл бұрын
cant wait, going on my birthday the 10th of september for the 2nd time this year
@angrybirdfan1001
@angrybirdfan1001 8 жыл бұрын
I can't WAIT to go here in July,I'm getting me a fast pass and riding everything in the front row!!!
@Anonymous10801
@Anonymous10801 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know this was open until today. When I found out I was like "damn they built that fast" this is their like what. 17th coaster? Looks like they are catching up to Magic Mountain
@rfi-cryptolab4251
@rfi-cryptolab4251 6 жыл бұрын
I give it an 8/10. The drop was ok, but I actually like when it slows down when you go through that roll where you're not pinned to your seat and you fall up into the restraints a bit.
@coasterstud7353
@coasterstud7353 8 жыл бұрын
Do you get butterflies in your stomach in the first drop or ejector airtime on valravn +Coaster Force
@xeofalconm.shields5197
@xeofalconm.shields5197 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like so much fun.
@KyleJPie10
@KyleJPie10 8 жыл бұрын
Everyone calls it a one-trick pony, but the most underrated quality about it is the roll going in to the final helix. It's basically a zero-g stall.
@maxinator2002
@maxinator2002 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone's comparing Valravn to other B&M dive coasters (like Griffon), but I wonder how it compares to rides like Cannibal? I feel like the lap bars and beyond vertical drop would be superior, but I've only ridden Cannibal so idk if my opinion would be valid... has anyone ridden both?
@tomuchtohandlepapachops7774
@tomuchtohandlepapachops7774 8 жыл бұрын
going I to that immelman loop I always almost black out, I k ow the because every time I've ridden it which has been 4 times this happens, along with gatekeeper, any advice?
@dojavillager5998
@dojavillager5998 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how enthusiasts hate these so much but the GP eats them up.
@tdubb3254
@tdubb3254 8 жыл бұрын
Haven't been to Cedar Point in almost a decade. I'm probably going this weekend, and I hope Valravn lives up to the hype. Although I've heard a lot of people aren't happy with it.
@KyleJPie10
@KyleJPie10 8 жыл бұрын
It's exactly what you would expect
@Cescorage
@Cescorage 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Wendt how was it?
@tdubb3254
@tdubb3254 7 жыл бұрын
It was a great time. I'm looking forward to going back. Valravn wasn't my favorite but it was still pretty good
@GermiesCoasterYard
@GermiesCoasterYard 8 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to ride this. I'm thinking one morning ride, and then no wait times on anything else the rest of the day. Millie and Maverick would be the most worth it.
@MrNickandjeremy
@MrNickandjeremy 8 жыл бұрын
I was there this past week for 2 days and on both days we went it was open from when the park opened till about noon or one then broke down till late in the evening around 9pm after a lot of test runs. We left Thursday morning around 11 and it was already down for the day with people stuck on it at the end. Very fun ride though.
@MrVekoma1979
@MrVekoma1979 8 жыл бұрын
I'm going to Ceder point on sept 3rd any tips because I haven't been to the park sense 2012
@MoeMerkin
@MoeMerkin 7 жыл бұрын
Boom The Gamer by a fast lane wrist band. It's like $100 but for me it's worth it. I have to drive from Minnesota when I go.
@forliberty1805
@forliberty1805 6 жыл бұрын
We went mid week in late August after all the kids went back to school and most rides and no wait time which was awesome. We'll be doing that again this summer.
@joshuatanaja9528
@joshuatanaja9528 8 жыл бұрын
Nice coaster makes me want to ride it
@crashcoaster3852
@crashcoaster3852 6 жыл бұрын
Do the vests lock like on the wing coasters, because I've heard they don't?
@gabrielrodriguez2998
@gabrielrodriguez2998 6 жыл бұрын
XBCPGamer29 it's safe don't worry about it
@valravnthewolfdogfox
@valravnthewolfdogfox 4 жыл бұрын
My ears were popping at the top of this! The sad thing is, you get assigned rows on this. I got assigned to the back row which was really disappointing because i didnt get hanged on the first drop. But other than that, the ride was fun!
@AGprojectmetal
@AGprojectmetal 8 жыл бұрын
Riding it more today :)
@dominiquebenjamin391
@dominiquebenjamin391 7 жыл бұрын
them girls screamed loud on the second drop on 1:46 seconds
@sniperlyfe9803
@sniperlyfe9803 8 жыл бұрын
U should try the new attraction on Tusenfryd, the name is Ragnarok!
@malayabates6342
@malayabates6342 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite rollar coaster was the gatekeeper and the Valraven
@marcjsolis
@marcjsolis 8 жыл бұрын
Was just there today!
@jasminerock2907
@jasminerock2907 8 жыл бұрын
rode it yesterday but my favorite was the gate kepper
@rollercoastercentral0808
@rollercoastercentral0808 8 жыл бұрын
Can't wait I'm going hear on July 15 and I will have early ride time to ride this
@jakeystarsuper
@jakeystarsuper 6 жыл бұрын
Roller Coaster Central Thats my birthday :)
@samaramorgan1927
@samaramorgan1927 5 жыл бұрын
JakeyStar 2019 who cares u brat
@themeparklunaticfringe2357
@themeparklunaticfringe2357 8 жыл бұрын
Please do more roller coaster povs
@Spooky_Psyche
@Spooky_Psyche 7 жыл бұрын
What is that sound that keeps happening right after the twist? Trim brake?
@therideanalyst6794
@therideanalyst6794 6 жыл бұрын
The clang sound you are most likely referring to is probably the wheels re-engaging with the track after a moment of weightlessness.
@KrakatoaCoo
@KrakatoaCoo 8 жыл бұрын
What are those 3 clicks when it goes through the zero-g roll?
@Coaster_Universe
@Coaster_Universe 7 жыл бұрын
The anti rolls backs and chain dogs.
@undercooktheonions1002
@undercooktheonions1002 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was there, I was gonna ride this. But right as people got off the train we were gonna get on, it started raining. They stopped the ride and we had to leave.
@carriethompson9826
@carriethompson9826 5 жыл бұрын
THE BEST ROLLER COASTER IN THE WORLD❣️❣️❣️😊🤗🙌🙌🙌
@carriethompson9826
@carriethompson9826 5 жыл бұрын
What other coasters are like this, smooth, not rough or too fast?
@hellacia8151
@hellacia8151 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much all RMCs and most B&Ms
@joeandres1629
@joeandres1629 6 жыл бұрын
THIS COASTER ROCKS LIKE HELL!!!!+
@RideAllNight5
@RideAllNight5 8 жыл бұрын
My second favorite coaster at the point!
@RideAllNight5
@RideAllNight5 8 жыл бұрын
+Music 4U ?
@RideAllNight5
@RideAllNight5 8 жыл бұрын
Millennium my overall favorite!
@krazejeff
@krazejeff 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like Canada's wonderland may steal the crown, appears we may see a giga give coaster up here.. Great concept
@krazejeff
@krazejeff 6 жыл бұрын
I have a video from amusement guy here whom does great videos
@sunnydhamm
@sunnydhamm 8 жыл бұрын
My second favorite ride at CP after Maverick! But that final stretch of brakes is awful.
@BlotRorschach
@BlotRorschach 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding. Like having a jerk uncle stomp on the brakes over and over.
@mr.madden2782
@mr.madden2782 8 жыл бұрын
Rode this yesterday, fucking crazy!!!
@ky_ky9869
@ky_ky9869 8 жыл бұрын
I rode that ride it was fun
@valravnthewolfdogfox
@valravnthewolfdogfox 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar Point but its roller coaster tycoon: I love dive custom coaster 1!
@Yasin_2312
@Yasin_2312 6 жыл бұрын
I like this dive coaster but it doesn't have a splash
@coastersunited4290
@coastersunited4290 7 жыл бұрын
Could've been better but still fun for what it offers.
@raynestor3653
@raynestor3653 6 жыл бұрын
Chasecraze Everdayz I haven't been to Cedar Point for a few years just curious how was the climb in the drop on valravn
@forliberty1805
@forliberty1805 6 жыл бұрын
Really? This was my husband's favorite ride. He rode it 3 times in one day last summer.
@13_reasons_why67
@13_reasons_why67 6 жыл бұрын
anyone else come here to compare CW's Yukon Striker to this?
@sportsMike87
@sportsMike87 8 жыл бұрын
I don't get the point of gates for the coaster
@Cescorage
@Cescorage 7 жыл бұрын
sportsMike87 its a dive coaster
@RAlanMead
@RAlanMead Жыл бұрын
Imagine if there was a dive coaster with a vertical loop
@recipesforruntz5317
@recipesforruntz5317 6 жыл бұрын
67,000th view!
@ljvallot8255
@ljvallot8255 3 жыл бұрын
GOING DOWN?!
@mitchellries256
@mitchellries256 5 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I actually like both Skeikra and Griffon better than this. Mostly because the restraints they use put a lot of pressure on the bones of the upper chest, especially the lower neck. And even though I've ridden other coaster with those restraints and felt nothing, you can really feel the pressure of the restraints on this ride when you hit the elevated break run at the end of the ride. Plus, and I am being a little sarcastic about this, Valravn doesn't have a splashdown ending and Sheikra has a tunnel (Griffon does to if you count the part where it goes under the bridge at the bottom of the first drop). I still like Valravn though, don't get me wrong.
@_.kalico._
@_.kalico._ 8 жыл бұрын
Oh my God. I have to go to Cedar Point on July 7th.... My mom is going to force me to ride this, I just a know it. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!
@jakeystarsuper
@jakeystarsuper 6 жыл бұрын
Sanic is here Well first Your mom shouldn't be forcing you on something above your standards or something you're not ready yet But you can write yourself a little note that you can do it. After you ride it you're going to be pround you did.
@josephguard3504
@josephguard3504 6 жыл бұрын
Looks exactly like Shiekra from Busch Gardens Tampa
@coolguy13333
@coolguy13333 3 жыл бұрын
This ride is nit as bad as it seems but that drop doesn’t play
@kenneths8223
@kenneths8223 8 жыл бұрын
I rode this coaster on opening day... I must say that Griffon at Busch Gardens Willamsburg is so much better
@KyleJPie10
@KyleJPie10 8 жыл бұрын
You're fooling yourself if you think it's any different.
@realdominatingchampion3252
@realdominatingchampion3252 8 жыл бұрын
Kylie your honestly stupid because it is
@therideanalyst6794
@therideanalyst6794 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve ridden both and I personally like Valravn much more because it is much larger. Now i’m no GP saying bigger is better. It’s just that the larger it is, the more speed you have for more elements. And I like the amount of floatation you get.
@kaharudinfamilykaharudin2775
@kaharudinfamilykaharudin2775 3 жыл бұрын
I like
@CosbyTheCaterpillar
@CosbyTheCaterpillar 7 жыл бұрын
Average wait time?
@Spooky_Psyche
@Spooky_Psyche 7 жыл бұрын
Probably 2 hours.
@forliberty1805
@forliberty1805 6 жыл бұрын
Depends on when you go.
@imcgzin
@imcgzin 8 жыл бұрын
Is the Sheikra suster?
@imcgzin
@imcgzin 8 жыл бұрын
Sister*
@LikeAsir8
@LikeAsir8 8 жыл бұрын
Sheikra's big brother ;)
@yugiohguy
@yugiohguy 8 жыл бұрын
+LikeAsir8 This is it's small brother.
@LikeAsir8
@LikeAsir8 8 жыл бұрын
How can that be if Valravn is the tallest, fastest, and longest dive coaster?
@yugiohguy
@yugiohguy 8 жыл бұрын
LikeAsir8 Bigger brother= Older brother and Sheikra is 11 yrs older.
@jasper5321
@jasper5321 8 жыл бұрын
B & M ??
@deacon3651
@deacon3651 8 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@jasper5321
@jasper5321 8 жыл бұрын
ok true
@sherwinvalentine1372
@sherwinvalentine1372 8 жыл бұрын
Being honest this ride is not worth waiting for 2 hours. The only good thing about this ride is the first drop everything else is boring.
@alondrabernal7156
@alondrabernal7156 8 жыл бұрын
Omg genial
@tommysoccer2251
@tommysoccer2251 8 жыл бұрын
Very similar to SheiKra at Busch gardens
@coasterstud7353
@coasterstud7353 8 жыл бұрын
Not even close
@tommysoccer2251
@tommysoccer2251 8 жыл бұрын
+Hammad Khan yea it is this ride just had an extra loop
@Coaster_Universe
@Coaster_Universe 7 жыл бұрын
They didn't add any loops, but hey did add two inversions
@samaramorgan1927
@samaramorgan1927 5 жыл бұрын
TommySoccer22 who cares
@enriquemarshaii
@enriquemarshaii 8 жыл бұрын
I honestly am not in favor of these new B&M restraints! The old ones just look much better to me!
@therideanalyst6794
@therideanalyst6794 6 жыл бұрын
Look better? First of all why would looks matter? I understand how they would look different, but the vest restraints look way better because you can see the riders more, instead of having two hard sticks hold you down. And also they are way more comfy. If for some reason they hurt, maybe you’re just sitting wrong or, ahem, too large. And like he said, N O H E A D B A N G I N G
@nicholas9250
@nicholas9250 6 жыл бұрын
Cw’s dive is gonna shit all over this
@billiscool7647
@billiscool7647 2 жыл бұрын
Yukon Striker
@karendobrowolski2219
@karendobrowolski2219 8 жыл бұрын
Seriously, is that all you show now, the rides in motion? What happened to the front seat camera? If this is it, I'm gone.
@Filshizzle
@Filshizzle 8 жыл бұрын
I think Cedar Point no longer allows cameras on rides.
@coasterforce
@coasterforce 8 жыл бұрын
Cedar Point doesn't allow anyone to film on their rides. If they did we would have posted an on-ride POV as well, like we do everywhere else
@ThunderDragonRandy
@ThunderDragonRandy 8 жыл бұрын
If you want to watch the POV of the Valravn, you'll have to watch it on Cedar Point's KZbin channel. /watch?v=sEydyLJ-wjw
@early2exit
@early2exit 8 жыл бұрын
Why are you complaining on this video when it says right in the title "Off ride" YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE CLICKING ON, DUMBASS!
@early2exit
@early2exit 8 жыл бұрын
Lmao! :'D
@coastx6140
@coastx6140 6 жыл бұрын
These rides are one trick ponies.
@everettbrady5981
@everettbrady5981 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not crazy about the design on this ride
@felipeo7845
@felipeo7845 8 жыл бұрын
I love uu ❤️❤️😂😂
@jaidencarew17
@jaidencarew17 7 жыл бұрын
i went on this in the rain at night, but we fell faster than the rain so it fell upward.
@hellacia8151
@hellacia8151 4 жыл бұрын
🤔
@felpsjac
@felpsjac 5 жыл бұрын
Copy from Bush Gardens
@tammieward8033
@tammieward8033 6 жыл бұрын
NOPE
@sldorhout1
@sldorhout1 8 жыл бұрын
Coaster looks ok...but I miss the splash...I miss speed and original layout...and no theming.... Missed opportunity.... Bush Gardens does know how to do it....
@flipflubduck
@flipflubduck 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I believe both Griffon and SheiKra are better than this.
@sldorhout1
@sldorhout1 7 жыл бұрын
Eccentric Gamer but you do play games on your computer.... ;)
@therideanalyst6794
@therideanalyst6794 6 жыл бұрын
I like the splashdown too, but Hey, the extra size is nice, and the taller the more of that 90 degree drop you’ll get. And I love those valravn plushies. 👑🐦
@gabrielrodriguez2998
@gabrielrodriguez2998 6 жыл бұрын
sldorhout1 ok?
@jarretstroud1842
@jarretstroud1842 5 жыл бұрын
Splashdowns are honestly the most shitty things to exist.
@jonathandavis2082
@jonathandavis2082 8 жыл бұрын
0:08 there's a black man
@Cescorage
@Cescorage 7 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Davis ok?
@yodagaming2559
@yodagaming2559 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Davis epic
@aquazzycro6153
@aquazzycro6153 8 жыл бұрын
this is lame
@coasterstud7353
@coasterstud7353 8 жыл бұрын
How it's the worlds tallest fastest longest dive coaster
@b7savage
@b7savage 8 жыл бұрын
Copied sheikra
@nathanashley623
@nathanashley623 8 жыл бұрын
But Sheikra wasn't the original dive coaster.
@deacon3651
@deacon3651 8 жыл бұрын
Actually no one copied anyone. But if that's how you wanna play then Sheikra copied Griffon and Oblivion
@christiangaytan168
@christiangaytan168 8 жыл бұрын
+Drench TZR griffon came after sheikra but oblivion was before both
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