COBRA FORGED ONE LENGTH Vs COBRA FORGED STANDARD LENGTH

[@EDTHEWATERGUY]

The great thing about the new cobra single length and pro sets is you can mix them if you don't want your short irons longer or your long irons shorter.They can easily be mixed to your preference. I ordered the 4,5 and 6 in the one length version and the 7 through PW in the variable length (pro) version. This can also be done with the cast versions.

[@mattparsons946]

Can't wait for the results! This should be great! Can you have Rob hit these suckers? Would love to see if he gets a more consistent strike.

[@eriksvideos6022]

Nice review overall, Rick, but like with all of your one-length videos, your analysis doesn't align with your data. Your principal concern here is that the one-length 5-iron's trajectory was intolerably low, yet the data show it was just two yards lower with two yards more rollout. That seems a small price to pay for greater consistency. This might present a more significant problem when you get to the 4-iron, but most people would just move to hybrids or fairways at that point. Same at the lower end. If the GW gets too high and spinny, just stop with PW and use your normal higher-lofted wedges.The one-length concept does not have to be all or nothing in order to be a valid and useful step forward.

[@chrishall2358]

i noticed that exact point.. carry and total distance virtually the same. I've been playing for twenty years....i must admit I'm tempted to go for these very soon...i do feel though after watching quite a few reviews these and the sterling one length clubs that the pros like them but hesitate to fully endorse them due to tradition

[@sigtausteve]

I agree. Course vlog with maybe a challenge between you and Pete. Who can single length the course better

[@glennsmith7897]

Very interesting review. Would be interested to see how the short irons fare with partial shots and greenside chipping etc

[@svenhallauer3229]

Great comparison, makes me want to try the single-length irons. It looked like overall distance for the 5 iron was identical, so maybe just planning landing spots a bit differently when you take them to the course.

[@thombendtsen399]

Rick, I would like to see a comparison between the two sets of clubs comparing distance from centerline. The reason to use single length clubs is to score better and the only thing that really matters is how close the ball ends up to the target. So maybe some random clubs to random targets using the single length clubs.

[@Madrox343]

Watching this after being a new viewer just shows how much better you’ve gotten in front if the camera

[@legend9018]

Really great vid Rick and great explanation of the differences and why. I'm sure it took you quite some time and it is appreciated. Keep up the good work!

[@khure711]

I know I want to get a set of these for the reason of simplifying my golf swing with a 4,5,6 iron. Because I'm a mid handicap I struggle mostly with my longer irons in being consistent with my direction of target, because I push so much when the club gets longer. Giving up distance of a few yards is better than being off target 20 yards is my thoughts on it.

[@olivierbarents]

Rick, thanks for all the testing! Great to see all the data and the like. In this respect I was wondering if you could do a check on lake balls vs new ones. All these mixed messages in the media. Would love to see some data hitting a few lake balls vs ones and see if there is actually some real difference. Cheers

[@jurrasicparkinsons5982]

Interesting test Rick. Made me think differently about single length clubs. Surprising result for me.

[@GenesisG80]

I own a set of Sterling Irons by Tom Wishon. These clubs completely accomplish the reason I bought them for! That is they give a great amount of confidence no matter what iron I pull from my bag. The ball is in the same address positon, the stance is the same, the swing plane is the same, and I know I'm making the same swing with my 5 iron as I am with my wedge! I'm not a good enough golfer to worry about whether my 5 iron is holding the green, but CONFIDENCE is what these irons are about! I would also like to see you do a video with the Sterling Irons. I assume the Cobra one length irons were fitted to your swing, i.e. shaft flex, lie angle, etc.?

[@fanyi2775]

Great video Rick! Just wondering what is the impact of shorter length in 3,4,5 and 6 irons of one length design on shaping the shoots. Do you experience any difficulty say making fade/draw with the lower number irons?

[@angusross1569]

One thing you never seem to mention is the dynamic loft; I believe that is causing the largest differences!! Also the swing weight of the two 7 irons are different D2.5 1L vs D3 SL

[@jedigolf3887]

Angus Ross so glad somebody else noticed this , the higher strike on the face would also account for the lower spin and lower ball flight.

[@nigelday001]

Wonderful in depth review and very interesting results .. thank you Rick 😉🏌⛳️🍻

[@marcelvolz1536]

Great Work! Nice to see the numbers on the end in the video, maybe keep this for all equiment reviews in the future?

[@Eqnotalent]

Have you test the sterling iron single length? So we can compare the 2 retail sets

[@rockrugbyref]

I think the mid-handicap review will be even more insightful. Great info, thanks!

[@MissyLaMotte]

How do you think the gap wedge and pitching wedge of the single length set would feel for chip shots and short pitches? Or do you think you would not use them for that at all and just use specialty wedges for those?

[@snivideo]

Love the video sir. The point about the longer irons producing lower trajectory thereby not being able to attack the green with them is probably psychological than practical because your results showed that the single-length 5 iron's total yardage was 2 yards shorter than the standard 5 iron. Therefore, I would say one can attack the green and not think about the trajectory as much. Do you agree?

[@paulg7002]

Nice review and explanation. It makes me think that the only model that works in one length is the F Max One Length because the shafts are lighter to increase clubhead speed in a 5 iron and the lofts are not so strong, so the amount of loss in height is reduced. Does this make sense? Currently I have standard length irons with 72 gram shafts and I am thinking about the F. Max One length with the 60 gram shafts because I don't naturally draw the ball.

[@garysmith70]

I hit the one length today I think they are awesome

[@Taper0000]

Great Vid Rick , I can see the benefits of using a single length club for the avg golfer as the speed remains stable. It takes 1 variable out of the equation.

[@Alabaster245]

The numbers are very interesting. The one bit of information that I would have like to have seen an accuracy test. Exactly how tight did each shot end up as it relates to the target. To me speed, distance, ball speed, club speed... is all secondary. The weekend golfer will be looking at this technology to help him with consistency.

[@jobmayer9307]

maybe do a course vlog with you and mr finch one of you with one length and one of you with standard

[@stephenkim9720]

maybe if one of them has the one length and the other with standard for the first 9 holes, and then trade on the back 9 holes. It would reduce the factor of the player and how they're playing that day. Then compare scores between 9's.

[@jobmayer9307]

stephen kim true

[@jobmayer9307]

it would make for quite an interesting course vlog

[@BradGarland]

Totally want to this, too!

[@mattparsons946]

Agreed.

[@marcchester3195]

Could you see sets of standard length irons long irons down to 7 and then one length for the shorter irons to help generate more spin?

[@seancoxe3577]

I play SL irons, and the low ball-flight of the 5 or 6 iron is my one complaint (accuracy, however, is outstanding). You've nailed the reason: the "5" iron really is, basically, a gripped down, delofted 7 iron. Well said.

[@grantar2]

Would you be tempted to carry a longer length gap wedge in your normal kit for the spin advantage at the cost of the 3 yards average loss of length?

[@tomsweeney757]

Great stuff, Rick! I am still very interested in the single length irons, but am now wondering if the regular F7 (non-forged version) might be a better way to go. I am a low handicap, 4 here in the U.S., but, based on your test, I am worried about my ability to launch long irons in the forged set so they stop on the green. Maybe the more "Game improvement" set will address the issue or can be used as a combo set with the forged irons. The concept still makes sense, but I think there are more variables to consider than it initially seemed.

[@markpogson3799]

Cobra make the F7 One length irons in both forged and non-forged - Cobra King F7 One and Cobra King Forged One

[@RogerToye]

I hit the seven iron (any brand really well). the 5 iron is the best long club for me and I have got a tight dispersion on testing f7 one length 5i of the long irons and of course the 3 and 4 doesn't come out very often. Q do you think a mixed set or going just up to 8 is worth a look? because my mizuno 8, 9 iron and Cleveland wedge set is dialled in and would rather play blades. from 150 in..

[@superfly1187]

building a one-length set now, should be a fun adventure!

[@johnthompson7742]

i bought these 2 weeks ago and there brilliant absolutely love them

[@fassesweden]

You say the height with 5 iron was way lower with on lenght but your numbers "only" show 2 yards difference (31 and 29 yards) is it more of a feeling or does the 2 yards really make that big of a difference stopping the ball on the green?

[@OverParSteve]

Great review was wondering if there'd be much difference

[@2upadv23]

Well that gives me food for thought! Nice review Rick

[@JRock4572001]

Just got my one length set over the weekend and I will never go back to a standard set ever again. This is all personal, but for me having the simplicity of being able to have one setup and one swing makes golf so much easier and consistent. Golf for me is already hard enough and having a one length set just take some of those variables away. I will sacrifice three yards for consistency any day. Again this works for me. But I would encourage anyone to give it a try. It is weird at first but after a little while you will use to it.

[@chieflongtee6644]

I would be curious to see the data with different flexes and shaft bend points across the set. For example: Senior flex low bend point in the 4-5-6. Regular flex mid bend point in the 6-7-8. Stiff high bend point in the 9-PW-GW

[@DdoubleOBS]

I would definitely love to try the one length irons, I think it would be something fun and new. I would also like to test a lot of clubs like you do as well. Also I'd just like to play a round of golf with you. I really enjoy your videos and all your content

[@neilclarke3513]

What about dispersion Rick? Does single length help with dispersion?

[@qc1651]

As a armature player who only gets out once a month or so I like the idea of only have to master one swing and still get a good round of golf in. To many times I am trying to change the swing because the clubs are long, 4-5 iron, and the PW and SW are super short. My preferred club is the 6 and 8 iron. I feel the most comfortable. So to get my swing no matter the club to be that of my best irons sounds like a good thing to me.

[@rockerman012]

If someone, like myself, struggles to hit longer irons (3-5) consist do you think using the one length longer irons would help?

[@ericdavidson2570]

one thing that you didn't mention on the longer irons was that the standard length and one length irons were both with in one yard on the total distance.

[@summerman2]

How about a close up shot of the different iron heads? Isn't a single length 4 iron bigger and heavier than a standard 4 iron?

[@williamisamazing7136]

Shoutout would be brill rick, video is extremely good as usual ! Keep it up. Best KZbin golfer by far!

[@Robsmithwick]

I appreciate all your videos! Learning so much! As far as one length goes,,, are the forged worth the extra cost over the f7 one length?

[@jday4217]

I was set on the Mizuno JPX 900 hot metal. Now I want to try these.

[@blair530-]

is gw different from pitching wedge ? and is 1 length better for new ish players

[@ChrisBrown-ze6dd]

I'm 15 with a handicap of about 9 would the mizuno jpx 900 be a good choice for me?

[@mortenlothe6893]

the jpx 900 forged would be great for you;) when i was 20 hcp i played the mizuno mp60. it made me a much better ballstriker. now im a 4 hcp and play the mizuno mp64. very simular to the jpx 900 forged. you cant go wrong with those clubs. just remember to get shafts that fits you;)

[@matthewsencabaugh9848]

definitely do a course vlog with the single length. interesting results. By the way, claw grip is proving to be productive. Thanks Rick! Shoutout from the snapchat squad

[@joshmorleysadventures3675]

Hey Rick can you please give us a review on the course of the single length irons. Launch monitors and numbers are great but I want see the versatility of these clubs on an actual course.

[@dacatalyst41]

Rick, Can we get a full review on the variable length F7's?

[@keithhamman755]

Hi Rick what about dispersion? I thought that was one of the main reason for single length not distance?

[@matpoade3920]

interesting. but what's happened to the swing path? back to old swing?

[@gregoiresan]

Hi, I think it is just intuition, but I feel that the consistency numbers are better with the one length, aren't they ? Also, I guess that one length clubs provides a better distance contrôle with higher number clubs (previously known as shorter clubs), so, with more spin and more consistency, we should have a great recipe for scoring, shouldn't we ? It would be very interesting to get the trackman combine comparison between these 2 sets of clubs. Could you make a video of it ? I'm sure the result would be in favor of one length set. However, you pointed out a very interesting fact : low flight with longer clubs which can be a problem for the pros, but not for amateurs... best regards Greg

[@philipbotha4451]

I would be interested to know if the score card has improved or not and also feel and confidence.

[@pedroc6823]

To be fair you should compare 1irongolf single length irons and the Wishon Irons. This is only one set and they goofed on the specs just like the Tommy Armour E.Q.L. Your results are not typical. The cut off point for most players is the 5 iron , so I can see that may be an issue at least with Cobras. Safe trip and great play in the Turkish Open.

[@rayjd1650]

I feel like a combo set would be interesting. I wonder if something like 7-PW one length and the longer irons being standard increments would work. That way you get the distance and launch that a standard long iron would give you instead of what you see with the one length 5 iron testing, but you get the extra high launch of the shorter irons to really hold greens.

[@johansap216]

Rick, Bit off topic question, but what do you think is the best ball for a mid handycapper? And love your video's (y)

[@stevens3685]

So my question is, do you feel like this will help or hinder newer players in the long run? If they ever upgrade from the one length sets and have to adjust their positioning and swing, would that potentially be something that's bad long term?

[@HampshireGary]

Hope you read this Rick, but during this vid you stated the one length 5 iron was much lower than a standard club. However on the graph you showed they looked fairly close to being the same height. What was the actual height for the one length and standard. Thanks, very interesting review eh!

[@markkirk3049]

Looks good for someone starting to play, if they only have to set up for a 7 iron, and have only loft changes then they might get results quicker

[@hollywood1513]

I really enjoy Rick's reviews, but I have to point out his bias on this. He's skeptical of one length, which is okay, but he tries to manipulate results to prove his preconceptions. For example, did anyone notice that he didn't actually talk about the peak height differences for the 5 iron? All he said was that the single length 5 iron was much lower. However, if you stop the video at 11:52, you can see that they were only 2 yards apart - 31 and 29.

[@markchurch629]

I think in time you will see different clubhead designs used more bladed in w-8 and more sole weight cavity back in the 5 and 4 iron

[@coffeeconnoisseur6444]

Did you check the lofts?

[@ChrisBrown-ze6dd]

Great idea

[@chippinfoo]

This is an interesting comparison. I would like to see these clubs tested on something like an Iron Byron swing machine to view the gapping with identical swing speeds for each club through the set.

[@DN4AGDX]

I'll be buying a set when they are available as long as they aren't asking for a ridiculous amount. I like the idea of the same length clubs.

[@vtazicx2461]

hey rick love the content keep it up

[@coolkix9]

Maybe Cobra would introduce a test program with them, because I'd like to game them to see what it's like. I think these can be great for amateurs and/or new golfers because it minimizes the swing. I did a test program with Ben Hogan irons and it really helped me see if I liked them or not. Thanks for the review as usual Rick. Interesting stuff.

[@martinwright6255]

- I've had 6 months or so with SLI. They are a cheaper (Pinhawk - Nordica Golf£350) cast club as an experiment so do have a different feel than the forged clubs i've used for 15 years or more. Thought hey feel slightly different the distances are pretty much the same. I think they work OK - will they take over the world - i'm not sure. I do think the 5 and 6 iron are easier to use than standard clubs because they are shorter with heavier head. However, i have found the longer pitching wedge more difficult than expected particularly oon half and 3/4 manufactured shots. Would i pay £650 for a new set of forged irons - probably not - but that is as much for the fact i only play once a week now. If i was starting out again would i - probably yes - i think they would be easier for new starters

[@jasonwarlond6743]

Numbers show surprisingly similar distances across the clubs which means job well done to Cobra, albeit with different trajectories. The question then is do they provide more consistency of strike? It would be interesting to see a similar test with different handicap levels where irons are selected at random to see if different handicap levels get more consistency out of the single lengths .... and consistency might even vary from club to club (ie. above the 7 iron or below).

[@fritoboat13]

Jason Warlond I saw some fantastic numbers with the Forged One using the KBS FLT 120 in a stiff. They felt great, as nice as my MP 25s and the spin and consistent distance was great.

[@janivwatson7153]

These club design looks a lot like the Cobra Fly Z+ forged irons, how are they compared to these

[@jerryworsley2230]

So if you struggle with longer irons why wouldn't you use single length from 7 to 5 iron and then standard from gap to 7. Also would you see a jump from a 4 hybrid to the 7 iron length? PS great to hear the phrase "Bob on". Can't wait to hear Rick say "eke thump" next time he bombs a drive!

[@collinfox816]

Good point Jerry. My 7 iron through PW are 7 iron length. Changed the lie on those irons a couple of degrees. 6 through 4 are standard. Not for everyone but I do get the best of both worlds.

[@sbutler66]

Checking these out as I'm toying with getting some one length irons, almost forgot the non bearded Rick

[@andybibby4091]

3yards difference in carry on the 5 irons is really nothing to be worried about

[@jedigolf3887]

Andy Bibby especially when it it was more to do with strike and the dynamic loft I think hitting more shots with both you would see this gap narrow considerably

[@andybibby4091]

Jedi Golf 100% agree

[@stephenadams6959]

Quite an interesting comparison there Rick. Plenty of food for thought from that one! :-)

[@ms-zf2fd]

Rick, if you were to hit the gap wedges in the exact same position, wouldn't that equate to a few extra yards in the one length? Just my thought, when you hit higher on the face, you seem to lose a little bit of penetrating power in the flight, but I don't know if that is something you've considered. Thanks for the videos man.

[@camehly2184]

Compare these to Wishon's Sterling irons. I would be willing to bet he addressed the launch issue

[@dannyc91a]

Are they same shaft?

[@jasmirguaybergevin7498]

are you gonna put them up against the wishon single lenght ?

[@markpogson3799]

Seconded !!! Perhaps do a vlog with Finchy. One of you using the Cobra Ones and one using the Wishon Sterlings

[@brandoninglis726]

Update with new this year's one length to see if they have improved!

[@brendanwantstoremainasecre8954]

Eye opening review

[@CMBelite-FR]

I think for one length you need to get clubs that are made by a club marker to adjust the COR on each iron to get like a std 10m gap between each clubs, I watched a review of the same one length shaft by another person and there were only 15m gap between a 7i and a 4i where you should normally get 30m. Nice review though

[@otterndsupernetcom]

Left Handed Also? Use 1 iron clubs single length now but the forged is something i would be getting if they make them for lefties also.

[@5wisher5weet]

Rick, you should do f7 vs f8 to see home much they Improved both ends of the bag

[@rrud13]

The changes in speed are due to head weight, not length. Each head in a regular length set get lighter/heaver by 7 or 8 grams.

[@daleykun]

I guess you can always go out on the course to see if the 5 stops or not? Would be interested to see you do a course vlog with the single lengths in the bag

[@bakerg21]

For a good player, I completely agree with your assessment of that 5 iron. For the average guy though, whose natural ball flight with a 3-5 iron is either a worm burner or a complete duff, maybe these single length clubs could be a game changer? Better lower height and spin than ideal than no height or spin at all :P

[@grahamaldren2734]

All that extra spin on the Gap Wedge, would make you wonder why a longer length club hasn't become the norm. What are you sacrificing for the extra spin I wonder?

[@keithfinley2939]

you are hitting the one length beautifully...

[@handieman60]

I would guess these are clubs a pro golfer would find difficult to adjust too (single length) would be curious to know if handicap golfers had the same views as a pro?

[@d.austin7494]

Rick, after watching you test clubs for the last 3 years I feel you consistently hit from the inside with a slightly closed face. Your misses are to the left more often than not. The longer the club the more the dispersion. I would have to think that these same length clubs of 7 iron length would improve your dispersion, allow you to hit the sweet spot more often, and be more consistent. Just a thought, but I am sold on this concept.

[@thomasbnielsen530]

well so you have confirmed that there are issues at the end of the spectrum (aw and 4 iron ) well 5 iron in this test but the point of these clubs must be to be more consistant in your swing path numbers and that will be hard to confirm without huge test samples

[@MrRosswesson]

Please do a course vlog with you and Mr Finch both using single length!

[@gozz007osgs3]

Maybe try to have 6-5-4-3 all the standard lengths then 7-8-9 gap and sand all the same length that would possible work amazing

[@kswan2234]

Whoooa! Didn't recognize Rick! 😂

[@rydnskyhigh]

let's see some on course play!

[@iansimpson1120]

Excellent stuff, but isn't the main aim for single length clubs to minimise variation in strike, the holy grail for any golfer? One length, one plane, one delivery. Not so important for single handicappers and better but for hackers (I include myself) and newbies it simplifies the idea of the swing.

[@keegan4567]

How come there's little to no discussion on how the constant swing weight of the single length irons may help a player cultivate consistency and feel?