Coco Experiences the Youtuber Stigma

If you've been following Coco and the crew recently you'll probably know that they've been looking to move into a temporary Hololive house. Kanata, Suisei, and Coco here. And the other day they went to go look at one of the possible places and Coco quite liked it. After displaying interest, she comes across something rather interesting. I don't follow too much of KZbin outside of Hololive lately so I don't know the kinds of people they're referring to, but I thought this was interesting enough to share nonetheless.
This ain't no literal translation, I'm just conveying the gist of what's being said. Coco doesn't seem to get that many subbed clips for all the interesting things she says, is what I usually say but recently I've seen more and more Coco stuff pop up in my feed.
If you understand the gist of Japanese, I highly recommend you buy a membership to her channel. She recently released a few goodies such as an ASMR sample and some images. I haven't seen a full thing yet, but I think she might have some natural talent at it.
Source:
• 【#妄想ホロライブハウス】生活編！ホロハウス...
Kiryu Coco's Channel:
/ @kiryucoco
Her Twitter:
/ kiryucoco
Tools Used:
handbrake.fr/
www.aegisub.org/
streamable.com/
Use Streamable to clip the video and download, make your subs in Aegisubs, and tape it to the video with Handbreak. Maybe a video editor if you need to cut frames or add in effects.

[@mfs9470]

Japan has never been the same ever since Logan Paul visited the country

[@GameLeaderR]

Coco being American probably doesn't help in distinguishing them.

[@comdnoive]

GameLeader She looks Asian enough so it's fine.

[@vishnu2407]

@@GameLeaderR bruhhh

[@torthos1]

"Everything changed, when the Logan Paul Nation attacked"

[@varence7007]

Nah man. They never considered being a KZbinr as a legitimate job in the first place.

[@SmxSonic]

What's funny is that they couldve said that they're Idols, but then The owner might have not believed them.

[@nguyenbao6433]

wirh all the screaming thays gonna happen, its even less plausible

[@RS-ld2sz]

I think it would've been better if they had told them that they were content creators instead.

[@GameLeaderR]

He wouldn't beleive them due to Yagoo's crying whenever they say they're Idols lol.

[@1LuvMLPFiM]

*O O F*

[@RS-ld2sz]

@Skooma Cat yeah. That's more plausible and believable. Also, they're not lying.

[@mindflair3732]

Thanks for all the translations. Hope your Crippling Depression becomes less crippling eventually

[@sylviaashbell7539]

Isn't the reason why he keeps translating because he's experiencing crippling depression right now?

[@MiloTheFirst1]

well, I don't know how her contract with Holo live works, and thus whether she is consider an employee, an associate, an independent contractor, etc, but if she receives a paycheck from them she could just tell the landlords "I am a video producer for Cover corp, we make entertainment videos revolving about music and video games" she doesn't even have to mention she appears in the video herself. Didn't know she had advanced that much in her plans for moving out, good for her and thanks for sharing this pal

[@jomujomu7513]

Yeah I agree. Especially since they're part of a corporation, they can definitely dress it up like it's something more professional. Social and Interactive Media Specialist or something lol. Have A-chan make business cards if they really want to sell the idea. Hell, they could go with mocap artist even as they've all done their 3D debut.

[@MiloTheFirst1]

@@kerokero278 no landlord is likely to go out of their way to demand to be shown one of their videos, as long as she shows her work contract and they confirm the company is real it is all good.

[@vishnu2407]

I absolutely agree. i guess the owners are also worried that they might not "salaried" and this might cause trouble regarding the rent, but, if they did word it like you said, they'd definitely find much less trouble Not saying that the owners are being particularly great people by being so difficult, but this is one solution

[@woaa455]

Kaos i doubt any of them sound exactly the same as their natural voices, especially coco and tenshi. suisei might be a little close but even then what are the chances of a landlord tracking all of their channels down

[@qb____]

those are definitely good points they could've done, this is where playing with words comes in.

[@satan7481]

Yep... Gigguk, Joey, and Conner talked about this in their podcast. KZbinr is really not considered as a valid occupation in Japan.

[@jomujomu7513]

I imagine it's not looked highly upon in certain parts of America or the western world either... "Get a real job" they say Fuck off, not my fault you'd rather work a typical 9-5, in a field you're probably miserable in, and then be proud of it for some reason. And, like Coco said it's not like there's many jobs you can get by without working very hard in someway anyways. Either way, like Coco said it's probably just some dumb shits who make their profession look bad, but it suck they gotta deal with stigma despite working very hard in their careers.

[@Saihamaru]

​@@jomujomu7513 sadly it is like that too here, in southeastern asia i keep getting told to get a "proper" work even by my relatives (apparently working from home as interior designer is not a job) mostly just the older ones though, those from same generation or younger are more understanding

[@kemonomimi2924]

@@jomujomu7513 It's less about money and more about contributing to society

[@frostmourne1986]

@@Saihamaru Yup, SEA here too. Very much the case. Just gotta wait for their generation die out I guess.

[@1LuvMLPFiM]

Whatever the stigma and opinions of others are, they're just afraid of change and the "future is now."

[@winsonzhu4427]

There's some people who make videos out of some wack "extreme challenge" irl stuff and the owner probably views those people as loud and messy and troublesome, which they very well may be.

[@Thy_Boss]

No, it's because ~99.9999...% of people who try to make money off streaming.... *_don't._* Almost no one succeeds. You're better off playing the lottery. More kids need to realize this, because a whole ton of them think that's gonna be their job somehow. Almost all of them will fail.

[@DasFiore]

​@@Thy_Boss While you're not wrong, in this case it was because of the stigma being a KZbinr carries. In another TL'd clip about their experience househunting, the landlord explicitly said they disliked KZbinrs and emphasized not being a nuisance to their neighbors as one of the rules for moving in.

[@-Raylight]

-Must be because of Jake P.- I hope they can work it out, because Coco, Kanata, and Suisei are definitely not kind of people that make problems on purpose I like how Coco plays the Sims like she's doing normal chatting with listeners

[@DomoArigathanks]

Thanks for translating again Crippling Depression! I look forward to your uploads every so often (:

[@dokurot6040]

I thought the owner was off, but then remembered Haachama’s cooking stream. The owner has a very solid point to raise the price.

[@kyle4726]

Your selection of clips are great as always, thank you for the translation.

[@Necroneer]

You wrote Katana in the description btw. I hope the negotiation goes well, really can't blame them for thinking like that. If it goes well maybe they'll change their opinions a bit about KZbinrs.

[@CripplingDepression]

Must be my inner weeb coming out, thanks.

[@Nematoda4ever]

this is what happen on Pewdiepie as well, he can't buy a house there since he's 'youtuber'... KZbinrs always treated quite 'harsh' on Japan, they didn't consider youtubers as a 'occupation' or Job on there... after what happened where certain youtubers creating 'chaos' on there... they always think all youtubers is just bunch of barbarians.... Pewds now already got a house on Japan, he probably telling them that he's designer (Tsuki), and not as 'youtuber'.... Coco and Co. should telling them that they are working on agency, like 'entertainment' agency or something... i hope they got much better house and nice environments for them...

[@Thy_Boss]

No, landlords correctly conclude that most people who claim to make money off KZbin don't, and never will. If you think you're going to make money from streaming, you are almost certainly wrong. You'll almost certainly fail.

[@VandalAudi]

Brad, A Dad true most people won’t make it but tell that to FaZe clan, who just bought a $30 million house and still managed to get a pandemic bailout from the government worth $2 million. Anyways Coco can always show her paycheck slips from Cover Corp, and list them as the company where she works.

[@Nematoda4ever]

@@Thy_Boss lol, if using your statement, not only streamers, everyone who working on 'entertainment' industry is certainly fail, since streamers also fall into that category, you can't become famous, you didn't get the money... if they can rent house or buy it, then it clearly show they have MONEY... simple as that. in this clearly Coco says that Landlords really hate streamers and put more strict rules for them... she even hinted one of the reason probably because Logan Paul case... unless that Landlords live on the cave, they should know there's also successful Streamers or youtubers and they're quite rich...

[@AniMeann]

looks like someone knew that was his house and tried to robbed them last year... maybe..

[@aikun9098]

@@Thy_Boss you know right to be a successful youtuber or streamers it's only like 1%. Even to get more than 1 million people watching you is like taking more than 3 year ask felix and others youtuber or streamers

[@MrBuash]

It's time to ask Yagoo to make them identity as normal worker.

[@Claiff13]

Should have said they were pro gamers.

[@EvyDevy]

She said they were "streamers". Not "KZbinrs". The bias has nothing to do with the Logan Paul incident which wasn't even a major incident for japan. Only really KZbin. The issue with streamers/youtubers that these companies have is they know our revenue isn't realiable compared to "regular" jobs and they want to ensure streamers can afford to pay rent for at least 6 months with no issues as well as be making a fair amount of money. Still not right as you need 3x-6x more money than the regular person.

[@DrachenRitter]

Kaichou....you may not cause trouble in the real world, but here in the virtual world....is a whole ‘nother matter lol!

[@erthan6161]

I imagine it would be pretty difficult for them to prove their employment because don't they have to be pretty discrete about their actual identities? Cover should just rent out an entire floor or two of an apartment building and let the girls live there. Coco get's her hololive house and the girls anonymity is secured.

[@SunJeong]

Actual identity isn’t an issue for Coco. She doesn’t give a fuck. Her real identity is already an open secret.

[@geloalgarne]

What if Cocos trying to rent coincidentally from the same building as papa franku's

[@stopyouneedhelp6115]

“No filming dead bodies”

[@-gama527]

Solid translation! It must have been a little harder, due to how different the topic is, good job!

[@XenoKnightAlpha]

Well, there's many different kinds of streamers and KZbinrs. Hololiver are more related to the video game streamers. Hopefully it all goes well for them

[@smug880]

i can imagine that one time logan paul caused some ruckus in Japan must've helped worsen Japanese people's view towards youtubers. especially so among the elderly i imagine

[@RijaMo]

Lol very similar to what happened to thr Trash Taste bois. Hope Coco will guest someday. Gigguk is documented to simp for her already lol

[@redline841]

What I wonder is who was the Real Estate Agent. I knew this guy in a white suit that wore glasses and was pretty cool.

[@loveisinportant5570]

Coco should have just told them they're online/streaming idols. Wouldn't have been a lie and it would have avoided the KZbinr/Streamer stigma. Surely more people in Japan would be open to Idol types rather than KZbinrs. Or, y'know, work with the huge company whose employees/contractors they are to reassure the landlords of their legitimacy and trustworthiness.

[@CastleToastM]

they should call themselves voice actors

[@LeonValCh]

Well, to be perfectly honest, before meeting these girls I used to look down on KZbinrs as well. And with all the bad stuff that has happened as of lately with real KZbinrs, it's no wonder other people don't feel comfortable with them.

[@zinedinezethro9157]

Yea it also happens here in indonesia

[@MoreEvilThanYahweh]

Should've just said they work for an internet media corporation.

[@ShadowAkatora]

Coco wearing Adidas in game. lol xD

[@GameLeaderR]

Should have told the land lord that Coco is part of the Yakuza and sells drugs... Would have probably been preferable than thinking Logan Paul was moving in lol.

[@VamosGamingSys]

Lol the owner thinks of these girls as a problematic bunch of kids who are going to trash her place partying and stuff :D

[@glorioustigereye]

When they realize she makes 60 mil yen

[@Lotocoti]

...did I see Max Headroom on the TV behind her?

[@Zelinkokitsune]

After so long the idea of someone playing the Sims properly is just baffling for me.

[@1LuvMLPFiM]

Thanks, Logan Paul...

[@hokannin]

Do they have douchetubers on Japan as well? suprisingly I haven't found any of such channel. I guess I haven't delve too deep on youtube to be recommended those type of content (yet). I'm wondering if the bad stigma on youtuber only came from that one incident, or maybe some other reasons. Anyway thank you again for translating!

[@chariot9285]

Some of them purposefully disturb public spaces to be funny, which is a big nono

[@mackamilosci]

I'm more inclined to say that three young and presumably attractive women making a living off creating videos might get mistaken for a different kind of troublesome content that most landlords don't want to be associated with.

[@rbsalmon7895]

Ofcourse. They exist anywhere

[@Nematoda4ever]

bad people always exist on every society, so yeah, Japan youtubers also included.... but probably that' incident got more huge impact for them...

[@Thisisjackpot]

Read it on another video but people mentioned "SUSHI RAMEN" as one of those barbaric KZbinrs on japan, wouldn't know if they are 'douchetubers'

[@Dotoku.Others]

Coco was mistaken for jake paul...

[@まなと隊.焼き]

That owner dared to bully Them (　:ﾟ皿ﾟ)(　:ﾟ皿ﾟ)(　:ﾟ皿ﾟ) (　:ﾟ皿ﾟ)(　:ﾟ皿ﾟ)(　:ﾟ皿ﾟ)(　:ﾟ皿ﾟ)

[@govind.m86]

>mfw Logan Paul had a bigger influence on your vtuber waifu's life than you

[@NeostormXLMAX]

But a bad influence

[@vasyapetrow3867]

Well, you could always donate to have a positive impact on them (unless their salary is fixed of course)

[@rizqeenurhani3683]

It's kinda weird. Why does entertainer have this stigma. As long as they pay and follow the rules than it should be ok.

[@hexmark21]

Is this a residue from all the bullshit Logan Paul did in Japan?

[@Rizko_Pranata]

After what Logan Paul did in Japan couple of years ago, the general stigma for KZbinrs in Japan will probably never be the same again. This is what happens when these Western people with colonial and ignorant mindset suddenly interfere with Eastern civilization and still think that its probably wouldnt be a big deal.

[@aliceaozaki5339]

@Skooma Cat Yet dumb twitter people and gaming journalists keep bringing up colonialism even though it's dead.