Cocodona 250 Results, Diplo’s Run Club, & Handhold Finish Debacle | MTN OUTHOUSE NEWS 207

[@stevejosepher7787]

Totally with you on the hand-holding at the front of the pack. Keep that for long walks on the beach. And 10/10 on the Cocodona coverage. So much fun.

[@TrekwithTyler]

Cam Hanes, Burt Kreischer, Jelly Roll and Diplo: nightmare blunt rotation.

[@mitchellmclaughlin6360]

Great episode! 100% with you on the hand-holding. Run 99% of the race together if you want, but in the last mile, shake hands and race it out.

[@jondavidpenn]

I'm so ***HAPPY*** you brought weekly MTN Outhouse News back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I was looking through my comment history and this said "sad" instead of "happy" and I have no idea why. I was an accidental auto-correct troll. I love this content. I love your coverage. I look forward to these coming out. You're the man.

[@jasonwooden]

One way to thwart hand-holding finishes is to use chip-timing. Unless you were 100% you crossed the start line at the same instant, one of 'ya is going to be behind the other at the finish. Otherwise, what do you do? Add a provision in the rules for a coin-flip? Highest Ultrasignup rank? (kidding)

[@Simco_]

For those who can't tell, the cameraman started peeing in the shot.

[@jeanyves4220]

The biggest tragedy here is that he didn't even go off trail a couple of meters before relieving himself, poor trail etiquette! 😆

[@1519Spring]

"Live streaming"

[@jeanyves4220]

@@1519Spring It's evening here, but you sir, definitely made the best pun I've heard today. Awesome job, dad!

[@KPKelly]

I had to rewind twice...then regretted it when I finally saw it

[@Noah-eq3rn]

Just a comment to say the Cocodona coverage was incredible. The live stream was awesome, with the interviews and the multiple simultaneous streams on course, the commercials were awesome, and the clips coming out while the race was still going on were awesome. And right on the heels of Mt. Fuji! Mountain Outpost is killing it. The sport is lucky to have M.O.

[@LukasBradley]

"to cap off my dismay..." 🤣 I'm working that into my repertoire this week.

[@Briefmeasurement61]

A competition means to try your best with others. Handholding goes against that.

[@timpfluger]

Yes! It's back for another episode! Keep em coming! Love the broad coverage of running news in a compact format.

[@smkymike569]

Keep up the great work Jam-Jam! Thanks for all you do for the sport!

[@11savagesoldier]

Hand holding is wack

[@brandonward9294]

No on the hand holding finishes.

[@jillsy2815]

Hurray for handholding finishes!!! The leaders are showing this is all about the joy of sharing time on the trails❤❤❤. Also, Jamil needs to show his pretty eyes!!

[@kimaboe]

Instead of hand-holding, do a rock-paper-scissors five meters away from the line and the winner gets it :p for the giggles.

[@distinctlyspruce3540]

If two athletes at the top of their sport want to share a podium placing after many hours of grueling effort and months of preparation I say, more power to them. Instead of being upset as spectators we could try celebrating the mutual respect and generosity of spirit these athletes showcase. Perhaps these moments can inspire us to be thankful for our incredible sport and for those with who we share so many miles. Food for thought…

[@Dinckelburg]

I wouldn't give Diplo too much attention at the moment

[@Runnerrwe]

no hand holding. I agree

[@Thesailingrunner]

Hell yea! 👏🏽 thanks for calling out the hand holding! That infuriated me

[@Ropadope23]

Handholding is lame!

[@drewwatts2803]

Guarantee you Jeff Pelletier wasn’t looking to hold hands with Jesse Haynes at the end of the 2023 Moab 240

[@MountainOutpost]

No way

[@airforceones25]

Please talk about the Spring Energy debacle. Has now been verified by a German Lab.

[@MountainOutpost]

Link?

[@KrisPeter]

It is more exciting when people race to the finish, but crossing the line together is a by-product of nice people in the sport, and it's a small price to pay.

[@MountainOutpost]

That’s a great point

[@swemonk]

Finally some MO and Jam-Jam-time on the tube. Thanks!

[@SarahLavenderSmith]

I’m happy that these newscasts are back! Thanks, Jamil.

[@MountainOutpost]

Thank you Sarah!

[@runningwithsimon]

I'm fine with hand holding finishes. But I think if 1st and 2nd hand hold finish, the outcome should be both are 2nd place with no 1st. For midpackers, nobody would care and that'd be in line with the spirit of trail running (helping each others). For front runners - it affects price purse and sponsor pays and their track record - so up to them.

[@richardschultheis3859]

Can't say I agree with your take on hand holding finishes.

[@MountainOutpost]

🙏

[@timbotee]

100% agree, top joint finishes are a big thumbs down, especially in large-scale competitive races. Always race to the line I say!!

[@ropersix]

Maybe the glasses are hypnotizing me or something, but I'm really liking the Mountain Outhouse news program. So keep 'em coming! And sorry to hear about Emma Coburn. I read once she does a lot of trail running in CO for training, and wondered if she'd get into trail racing at some point. As for the hand-holding finishes, yes, it's very unsporting, and needs to stop. It's not too far removed from throwing a race.

[@trailahead]

What was blurred out on the very last clip?

[@ericandbeethoven]

Poop happens

[@jeanyves4220]

@@ericandbeethoven wrong side

[@matthewmyers7826]

the cam runner was peeing, it was the pee stream.

[@trailahead]

@@matthewmyers7826 oh the pee stream must cost extra to see that

[@KPKelly]

I agree that hand-holding finishing should stop but I also think it needs to be the same for all competitors, front or back of the pack. I get running with someone, and the bounds formed at the back of the pack where people want to finish together, there is something special about finishes like we saw for the DFL at Cocodona, but I feel a bit hypocritical if I want the winners to race it out but then I, in the back of the pack, don't do the same. A fun precedent could be that with 100 meters to go, anyone who is running together sprints it out to the finish - that would add excitement to finishes.

[@MrTCFIRE]

Can't wait to get passed by Jelly Roll at my next 50k.

[@verde-bj2mx]

MTN Outhouse yes!!!! here for it always! hand holding - out of hand, agreed.

[@ricodelavega4511]

we as trail runners out West are just living in Jami-town.

[@geromemanicia3809]

I need to know. Outside of races with prices, what are the negatives of a hand hold finish

[@mitchellmclaughlin6360]

It’s lame.

[@fu_247]

Races are for racing, rainbow gatherings are for hand holding

[@geromemanicia3809]

@@fu_247 aight go tell Tom Evans then

[@fu_247]

@@geromemanicia3809 ok. TOM, IF YOU READ THIS, YOU COMPETE LIKE A SCHOOL GIRL WHO LACKS SELF CONFIDENCE. I DONT KNOW YOU, BUTI HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU BASED ON YOUR ATTEMPT TO MURDER THE SPIRIT OF COMPETITION. THATS AN AUTOMATIC L FOR YOU…AND FOR YOUR NEW “PARTNER”. NEXT RACE, MAYBE JUST HOLD HANDS THE WHOLE TIME…

[@garretchristensen]

Love the news, and glad it's back, but I gotta say, not being able to see Jam Jam's eyes is weird and makes for less of an emotional connection. Be as colorful and goofy as you want, but maybe put the sunglasses on the top of your head instead?

[@MountainOutpost]

Keep it weird

[@williamgodin1110]

Thank you Jam

[@1519Spring]

Keep it going....

[@jeanyves4220]

I'm personally not against hand-held finishes: as humans, there's more that unites us than divides us. If two racers decide to cooperate, why not? Cooperation happens in a lot of "individual" sports. As for the Transvulcania blooper, that funny as heck to witness live: the English commentators were stunned! But most importantly, congratulations to all Cocodoners, organisers, commentators and especially volunteers! It was a fantastic edition for sure!

[@wussboyd1]

So you can check out of a race then check back in. Good to know

[@MountainOutpost]

Tip of the day!

[@dzejty]

hand hoilding is fine. if you ran half of the race together, helped each other and do not feel like racing in the very end, go ahead and share also the finish together. if you want to race, go and race. i think those two people and those two people only know what is appropriate at that moment.

[@nicolerivas7936]

Is the show still selling Jam Jam's sunglasses? 🍞 🕶

[@MountainOutpost]

We haven’t but can! Interested?

[@nicolerivas7936]

@@MountainOutpost Yes!

[@marlinweekley51]

Re hand holding at the front: - maybe sometimes it’s a marketing thing like with the Acteryx guys. Better two winners wearing your shoes than one ??? - sometimes two runners work together to push each other (help) for hours that they feel compelled to share the victory as they shared the journey. (This happened with me and a friend at the Burning River a few years ago. 1/2 mile to go we asked each other how we were gonna do the finish. Sprint race? I told him not me go for it, he said no way. We agreed that after such a long shared experience the only way to finish was together- great memory. But we’re mid packers but maybe elites experience the same feeling.

[@coreybaumy23]

I agree with hand holding. I think we need to keep the spirit of competition when it comes to the podium and even top 10. Hand holding for mid-pack and DFL absolutely great for the spirit of Ultras.

[@MountainOutpost]

🙏

[@brianagnew7386]

We push each other and ultimately make eachother better in this sport, it's the reason we celebrate Ihor in the same breath we congratulate Harvey. I think there's a time and place for the hand hold, we do amazing things. I understand why race directors would shy away from this position, but as a fan and participant of the sport - I get it (and I bet deep down you do too).

[@Cruellabane]

I love the hand holding finish and think it highlights the beautiful difference of mountain ultras. We are completing something extraordinary regardless. It IS less about the competition than other sports because it's ALSO about the achievement of simply doing and experiencing.

[@msgdedadvnture]

Bring back true competition and wanting to win, well said on the hand holding. You can be friends again after crossing the finish line.

[@fu_247]

❤️ you Jam Jam