Coding Will NEVER Be The Same - Insane New AI Code Editor…

[@TechWithTim]

What do you guys think of all the new AI code editors out there?

[@theperson624]

@@TechWithTim we need an AI code editor specifically for the people who mostly work with Assembly what do you think?

[@useronetwothree-z6f]

@@theperson624yes thats what i was going to say😂

[@SouthbayCreations]

For a new guy like myself I think this one is great. I have Cursor as well but I think Windsurf is more n00b friendly, IMO. I hope Windsurf will add some features that Cursor has to make it complete.. Or even if Cursor adds features that Windsurf has.. They are both great depending on your use case.. Thanks for the video!

[@ExcelInstructor]

to be honest, i love it, I am accountant by trade and i do know excel superbly. that said, I usualy need some Selenium or some VBA, but i started to learn python just cos it is way better and smoother then VBA, I was using Claude 3.5 in Tabnine IntelliSense and claude 3.5 is insanely good. so it seems the new windsurf is taking claude 3.5 to whole another level - which is great I wrote my python codes using Tabnine so far.

[@daw70772]

They are very helpful. Im not a programmer na I can create apps help in controlling tasks. However some basic knowledge is necessary and not all of such tools are effective

[@matiasm.3124]

- input : Can you clean some code for me -AI: ok, let me run for you : rm -rf ~/

[@unknownsudo1685]

LOL, and then the AI responded: 'Hmm, I believe you need to restart again, so I suggest using this command: sudo rm -rf /. I hope that helps! If you need further assistance, please reinstall your operating system first, and feel free to ask after that.'

[@quinndaisies6949]

@@unknownsudo1685 LOL

[@someone9493]

:D

[@birthdayzrock1426]

Certainly!

[@yoanhg421]

Windsurf is so far the only tool that has been able to get my idea about 60% there. I haven’t tried Aider, but pretty much anything else and this is it. AI is like JavaScript. A new library or tool comes out every day. I’m sure something better will be out tomorrow but today. This works pretty well

[@dDesirie]

Have you tried Cline?

[@yoanhg421]

@ yes. It gets stuck in a loop and chews thru api credits like crazy.

[@bigpfootball]

First time I tried it, it felt like magic. Did weeks worth of work in one day. What a time to be alive!

[@bigpfootball]

Even stopped riding motorcycle because I want to live to contribute to and witness the future. Eliminating all the possibilities that I would kill me prematurely. To me the future looks just too good to miss out on.

[@alals6794]

haha.... That's great man. It's a good way to learn coding too. Learn by doing.

[@icns.ct2k]

@@bigpfootball LOL! OMG! Epic comment! My brother got into what could have been a fatal accident, but thank God, he was spared major injury, so I can relate to the dangers of motorcyle riding.

[@icns.ct2k]

@@bigpfootball LOL! OMG! Epic comment! My brother got into what could have been a fatal accident, but thank God, he was spared major injury, so I can relate to the dangers of motorcyle riding.

[@brettsmith8226]

I’ve been using Codeium for a while now and this is legit. They aren’t trying to take the engineer/coder out of the equation but rather making their workflows more intuitive and efficient. Most importantly, they keep a free tier forever.

[@JayDee28]

same here. It’s a really well trained model. big productivity boost.

[@thebirdhasbeencharged]

for now*

[@f0rce510]

Pre AI: 10 Minute Learning, 5 Minute Coding Post AI: 2 Minute Prompting, 15 Minutes fixing the issues it created

[@po6577]

That's so true! Ai only work with tiny project with maybe 1000 lines of codes. Larger than that it's just so bad. But the best part is I can write comment better with ai

[@PixDaumen123]

​@@po6577 you know, this is the beginning of the AI editor time? in few years, your comment will age how?

Or, you're like me and can't code, and have tried learning. Pre AI; 10 months learning, 10 hours coding. Barely anything to show for it Post AI: 10 hours of back and forth prompting, 20 hours of having the ai fix its own mistakes. And I have a pretty cool proof of concept to show for it. 😊 I know I would just learn it too but there are only so many hours a day

[@HhaaJshshs-zr8ir]

As someone, with zero experience, this has been the most fun way to learn (also using KZbin). Using LLM to explain your errors, or showing how to correct it, makes it a far less tedious learning curve. I have always been scared of trying to develop web applications, etcetera, because it seemed so tough, but LLM have given me the instruments to quickly experience small achievements, and along the way, I also watch tutorials on the subject.

[@StevenAkinyemi]

Skill issue

[@prottoyhossain620]

13 minute ad

[@gabrieldomanowski1624]

Yeee It's time to unsubscribe, most videos seem to be like ads

[@poisonza]

True it just aider + cursor and when projects gets big even if the ai spits out valid code snippets i have no way of knowing if its correct or not.

[@danquixote6072]

@@poisonza surely if it works, it is correct, if it doesn't, it isn't. I am new coder thought but this philosophy seems to work for me at the moment.

[@DigitalDesignET]

worth every minutes ...

[@juanbetancourt5106]

its a valuable ad as long as every minute worth my time, I have tested many editors and I'm glad to see this ad

[@SouthbayCreations]

For a new guy like myself I think this one is great. I have Cursor as well but I think Windsurf is more n00b friendly, IMO. I hope Windsurf will add some features that Cursor has to make it complete.. Or even if Cursor adds features that Windsurf has.. They are both great depending on your use case.. Thanks for the video!

[@davequinn1679]

This tool is great ... but does introduce a level of frustration I haven't experienced in some time. I definitely have to figure out the right combination of it doing the work and me doing the work. It has gone down ridiculous circular paths of code changing for hours and hours on occassion.

[@alfredadam3613]

i feel it. I worked a lot with autocompletion and last time i turned everything off. It was a joy coding. I was in the flow, i was able to find my bugs, because i was the one producing it. Just occasionally i used AI for small snippets that i new it would handle well.

[@Phil-lr4di]

I think what happened at 5:51 is what makes me worry about all this. You just have to keep baby sitting it. I dont find telling something 'no that's not quite right do it again' a satisfying way to program. I use the tools as they are the future and are going to keep improving..... But it's not the same as solving it yourself and a whole cohort of new developers will need an AI crutch to do the simplist things even when they have years of "experience".

[@juanbetancourt5106]

Thank you Tim, this is the type of ad we wish youtube show us some day, we to know useful products and everybody is happy

[@FactsNoCare]

Honestly I think the tool is cool but when you have the knowledge to pair with it. The tool is really only as good as the person wielding it.

[@deanb8191]

He says as he's about to get laid off.

[@ElenaS-de9hq]

I would like to see more of your projects with Windsurf.

[@yuval_kahan]

thank god i found this channel . one of the most user beginner friendly high quality channel ! thank you so much Tim !! really really thank you !

[@BruceWayne15325]

Pretty cool. AI is definitely going to continue to make our lives easier until it leaves us all begging for handouts at Walmart. The one thing that stood out to me was the fact that you didn't have to specify the files. That's really cool, but also concerning depending on how they handled that. If they cached some information to help guide it, that's cool. But if they are submitting the entire source to the query that could be insanely expensive to use, especially if you have a large project rather than a small, simple tool like this.

[@gillesashley9314]

I love Windsuff. The only problem I have is the pricing, which is $15 with limited Prompt and Flow credits. I prefer Cursor, which is $20 for a flat monthly usage.

[@cxvxcbcxn]

I can't decide if it's a great time to start learning coding because of these awesome AI tools or if it's actually too late...

[@modernmistyk4341]

It's probably the best time in history

[@YannikaLuvz]

​@@modernmistyk4341why?

[@julio4694]

I’m in the same situation, but some users pointed out that it’s a tool, so someone with more programming knowledge will achieve much more than an ignorant person.

[@George-mk7lp]

too late AI will take over in 3 years. There will be 1-2 programmers in the company instead of 10, and thats not gonna be you

[@0101000101100]

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang has said that children should no longer be encouraged to learn to code, because AI may already be jeopardising a career in the field

[@mistersinister4241]

i think people are underestimating the claude llm thats being used here to remeber the context of your project and generate code.the ide probaly make excellent use of the llm but the automatic capabilities come from the model

[@tanmaysakpalofficial]

For real this is amazing! Build my own website from scratch without typing a single line of code. Been using it since last 4 days unlimited all day long. My question was, is there a hard limit to use it in free tier? What is the catch here?

[@richardgarrow9260]

Hi Tim can you describe the PC you are using for this project with the AI program running. I was wondering what Ram, and CPU you are running. Thanks

[@virityrealtual3831]

Compute is done in cloud afaik. Thats definitely true for the ai model being prompted.

[@ravenrousseau1138]

I am rather impressed! This is way way better than most , if not all ..

[@taichikitty]

Any way to get Windsurf to use o1-preview or o1-mini? Claude Sonnet 3.5 apparently cannot create a working implementation of Most Significant Digit Radix Sort ( even after 5 iterations ), while o1-preview got it right on the first try.

[@Lalit1112]

Dumb question - Do I need to supply OpenAI and/or Claude API keys or does it take its own ? trying to understand the cost structure. Good video, as always. It looks good.

[@modernmistyk4341]

Why would you ask this in the comment section when you can get an answer from AI in seconds

[@bipaquin2]

No, it is Not needed. If You pay $10 monthly, it includes UNLIMITED access to Clause 3 Sonnet and GPT 4o without any limit. You do Not need to pay for your own API keys. I know because I'm a paid WindSurf user. It is insanely cheap for what you get. Sorry for my english

[@Lalit1112]

@@bipaquin2 Thank you :)

[@RobertoOrtis]

@@bipaquin2what’s the main difference between free and paid? I ask because I want to try it out before paying for it but I am afraid the free version could just drive me away.

[@bipaquin2]

@@RobertoOrtis -- the difference is that Paid version give you access to Claude 3 Sonnet and GPT 4o, while the Free version only give you access to the Cascade Base model. So paying $10 monthly for the Pro plan is a wise decision.

[@stillmattwest]

I've been trying to incorporate AI into my coding workflows for several weeks now. There are times when the AI seems to really get what I'm doing and it saves me a ton of typing but there seems to be a certain complexity threshold where it just can't cope and it becomes pretty much useless as a tool. Still, this looks like an interesting take on things. I'd be a little nervous giving an agent access to my terminal, though.

[@peterwassmuth4014]

Totally awesome! Thank you for Sharing! 💯✴

[@lemonade2345-j4e]

New ad posted: "Looking for experienced AI Code Editor operator"

[@lancemarchetti8673]

Windsurf is really cool...and so is Val Town's 'Townie' coder - be amazed!

[@lostvayne871]

Mindblowing IDE, thank you!

[@RobHawlor]

Windsurfer is amaaaazing!!!! 😊

[@this.channel]

I've been using Codium plugin for VSCode for a while. What is Windsurf then in comparison? Do I need to uninstall my previous Codium plugin?

[@TechWithTim]

It’s an entire separate IDE

[@sirbobbyuk]

Will it work well with other languages like python?

[@TechWithTim]

Yes of course

[@petebytes5010]

Aider and Cline do the same, in fact Cline does more like running the browser checking the UI and logs. The one thing I saw that is different is CTRL + I in the CLI

[@RobertoOrtis]

Is cline better?

[@nothing-personal-tbh]

I think its mostly useless for a professional programer working on complex projects since it's not going to be able to handle unknown technology combination, latest updates to the libraries, etc. And as for beginners, i think its counter productive, because you are going to feel that you much more stupid and follow all the suggestions and when the program will stop working correctly and Ai wont be able to solve the problem, you are going to be stuck with a bunch of code that you truly dont even know. And as for a starter, you wanna do all of this on your own, create muscle memory, critical thinking and etc, but with this you will be sticking to the prompt slave behavior. And even if lets say the Ai actually found a way to avoid all traps and made a website for you with all the functions you wanted. Whats the value of this project in your portfolio? How are you going to answer the questions like what were the probelms you faced during development and how have you solved them?

[@minhuang8848]

judging by your interesting writing style, you'd be the first person to benefit from any sort of AI assistance lol

[@wes7bg]

It actually explains what it wrote and why. The "traps" are the best part because they’re how you really learn something new. Plus, AI even helps you work through them-you just have to get better at prompting. Ask for different solutions, workarounds, optimizations, best practices, security tips, and more. Remember, it’s not really “AI”; it’s a language model. A lot of people forget that it’s just responding to your input. If your prompts are unclear, the results will be too. I can agree one thing though.. Junior devs are cooked as mid/seniors are going step back and working on junior tasks cuz they are too easy and an experienced dev would do it 100x faster and better...

[@nothing-personal-tbh]

@@minhuang8848 thanks for showing off but do you have anything to say? English is not my native language, I know Ukrainian russian Czech and English. I think my point is pretty clear. Also, I would say that bad writing is actually one of the consequences of me using chatgpt and other llms when I need to write something relatively big

[@modernmistyk4341]

I take it you're a glass half full type guy

[@pavi013]

I'm not creating portfolio projects, im creating real world projects. If you know what you're doing you can better utilize AI.

[@NoM3akk]

Imo it's a great tool, if the code quality is high enough. Maybe it's good for rapid prototyping, but in the end the developer needs to make certain desicions on the design side. Custom code bases with high complexity will most likely not be written in a way you presented in the video. But such tools may be great companions fur developers to enhance their work flow. Your video suggests unconsious working with genai, which is dangerous in production systems.

[@RobertoOrtis]

Totally agree!

[@sirbobbyuk]

I'm guessing interacting with voice control will follow soon?

[@useronetwothree-z6f]

where do u get that

[@JohnSmith-z9m]

What neural network is the editor based on?

[@AliHosseiniDev]

Does it work with unity? currently im using vs code with codium extension.

[@pipilipilav98]

Neovim with avante is my best ai editor

[@3bdel3zizT]

No one will use copilot any more That's a life changing

[@CyberPrep-ud1dm]

This just changes everything honestly 💯

[@hossamgamal8661]

Hello Tim I'm trying to download it but it stops at the last step it won't download even if i wait or clicked

[@seanmahoney7832]

How does it perform locally?

[@MagedMegz95]

This is very impressive.

[@gani2an1]

indeed, windsurf is next level. amazing tool

[@OmriTurge]

Tim, something is weird here! Where is the legendary sublime monokai theme !?

[@patrickmateus-iq8bi]

🤣🤣....I looked closely and was disappointed

[@Laowater]

thank you man, beautiful IDE and beautiful work. To all the people speaking of this being more as a disadvantage rather than a help, to proning one to become a "prompt" engineering slave rather than a true Programmer, The IDE is just a tool. Just as in all other aspects of Life, the Masters Work will unfold from the meeting of the Carpenter with the Tools. This is just a tool. But it is a truly beautiful one, if the Carpenter takes the necessary time, dedication and sincere effort towards studying the environment (programming world) and the binding of it with the Tools, then beautiful work will emerge. It will be just as One who studies the Laws of Motion - If truly One understand Motion and it's Laws, the tools will be a mere Mean to an End. But nonetheless, they will meet with One's knowledge and give rise to what is it that is possible to build. If there is darkness and gaps in the Carpenter's knowledge about the Laws Of Nature(Programming) and the tools, of course there will be great gaps and knowledge in the final product as well. But it is far from being the Tool's fault - or to argue that the more powerful the Tool, the more prone One is to abandoning his study's and dedication and relying on the Tool itself. No. This is the beauty of this world. You are Free to Play. Free to Choose how you engage in the work that you're doing. Are you a True Student of Life, or a frightful child afraid to study and searching for quick fixes to overwhelming pains, always hastened, always in turbulence? If Fear&Hastening is it that it's driving you, then these mother_patters shall echo in all other aspects of your life and therefore, the problem lies in the deep beliefs and Life Vision, rather than a tool from a particular Field. Either way, The Gods of "Programming" are granting you more and more powerful tools as the new AI Era unfolds. How you use them, towards what purpose, with what Beliefs in Mind and with what Intent in Hands, That is for you to decide.

[@Mecagothits]

Really good works very automatic

[@Terrantulla]

This is very good, almost perfect, but I cant get it to play nice in WSL. Pylance is absent as well along with the offical WSL extension due to licensing. The AI capabilities are incredible though. I was really looking for something like this. If only Microsoft incorporated this into VSCode natively...

[@kiftesfalem2907]

Is windsurf open source as bolt ?

[@beronicous7086]

I haven't really used any AI editors because Copilot requires me to pay. I hope this will be a good first experience.

[@零云-u7e]

Zed. I ditch the AI. Get references together. Obsidian. Learn straight. Build your code repo, which is far more important. There is AI search everywhere. I actually want to screw up while I type. I actually want to fail, as part of the process.

[@HipHop-pu4ek]

How to use live preview with this ?

[@HookedGoneSunk]

cursor💪

[@sLavoncheg]

shitty IDE for now, has good potential via context search but broken for now I tried 5 tasks with cursor and windsurf and all 5 were failed with cascade and claude 3.5... but what's intereseing, I'm using the same model in cursor and fixes were successfully completed for all 5 tasks i'm not sure, maybe there some hidden options in windsurf or it's because of trial pro version or because I'm using beta 200k context in cursor, but after this video I faced up with disappointments :( cursor has a lot shitty small bugs like it can't see context of copy-pasted code in chat, but in general it's kind'a good integrated AI with great task completion...

[@JustinVazquez1430]

If it can’t run locally for free is it even worth it?

[@Melancraze]

Pretty impressive

[@XxMissingDataxX]

Is this safe ? Meaning is all this local or does it go out to a server ?

[@leadstn]

Copilot has these features now

[@theperson624]

Why is everything A.I now a days?

[@minhuang8848]

so you can learn how to spell "nowadays"? I mean, at least that's what you could use it for, no pressure though

[@wjrasmussen666]

really

[@theperson624]

​@@minhuang8848 I don't think anybody cares about grammar in a Tech video I mean right? The only thing that matters is that you understood what I MEANT. 😃 Edit: Btw no offense to you :)

[@PhoenixVids123]

@@theperson624real

[@Peter-fx5ez]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@theperson624 according to your logic - grammar should not exist, lul. if all of us wrote as we want to, soon none of us would even be able to comprehend each other

[@HipHop-pu4ek]

how to view the app??

[@oscarordu]

It has blown me away

[@Darkxelblack]

coding was free until AI came to live ...

[@tonymudau3005]

Really cool

[@David-eo3yi]

jobs that are truly gone, gone 1. Switchboard Operator 2. Lamplighter 3. Human Computer 4. Knocker-Up (Human Alarm Clock) 5. Telegraph Operator And now finally Coders😂😊

[@FromTheWombTotheGrave]

The new jobs will be coders who code AI or code with AI That’s why I’m mainly learning AI right now I never was interested in Coding before Now im learning mainly to code AI

[@Gabirell]

Great!

[@engsmyle]

What the name of the AI?

[@Arbnor93]

Every single AI code editor assistant is overhyped. It's very good for simple projects at home, but moment you scale it to enterprise level, it's absolutely useless

[@natking1u1z99]

AI still won’t land you a coding job without the knowledge.

[@BlazingTyphlosion]

Absolutely. Not even close. The difference of using AI and being experienced is huge.

[@David-eo3yi]

They won't be any coding job bro Only The rich guy with this agents or may be 1 senior coder or 0 😅

[@scottcastle9119]

Don't really need a job if you can create programs yourself.

[@Krishna01101]

Is it free or paid?

[@otownslinky]

Just started my journey into coding , ai , agents etc. So many options its making me crazy. I wish i can just stick sith one but i cantt. Help me god🎉

[@bipaquin2]

Stick with WindSurf. Codeium is a SOLID company with very smart people behind it. Also you will get the Best Bang for your Bucks. Trust me, I'm a very, very happy WindSurf user. The value I get from my $10 dollars monthly Pro plan is INSANE.

[@pisanghangus2]

Isn’t this composer in cursor ai

[@watchdog163]

Very small project. Try with 1000 lines of code and they all fail. Context window is not big enough to handle medium sized projects even.

[@AmeerHamza-cy6km]

I bet you will say Cursor is best in your next video if they pay you more than windsurf.

[@fintechtelugu6980]

AI works best in micro tasks

[@nandhakumar.r2690]

UI looks like VS code

[@azharalibhutto1209]

Great ❤❤❤

[@tobateksingh4933]

Upload more free ai code editor video so more people learn coding. Save public from paid ai code editor .

[@Agent221314]

This really just looks like cline....

[@gabe_0x]

Yet another "AI" coding assistant tool. I can't wait for this bubble to pop soon.

[@Siva-en9sw]

Won't for now because the investment dimension is exponential

[@vanamutt43]

What bubble? Ai editors/assistants make devs exponentially more productive and efficient, I used to do just backend spring boot but im now also part full stack, my SQL expertise has gone up and i also do devops now. All thanks to AI. There is no “bubble”, it really is gamechanging tech and if you dont get on the train you will be left behind

[@nufh]

@@vanamutt43 Agreed.

[@cxvxcbcxn]

Oh you're going to be massively disappointed 😂

[@drummermike5150]

@@vanamutt43Same here. I was just a SQL Developer until just a year ago and using pair programming I’ve been able to launch a CRUD web app for a business, develop a responsive static website for another business learned how to deploy these site to Azure, finished personal projects I’ve started and stalled on to finish “someday” and upped my SQL skills to stuff I thought was years away from me figuring out. It’s really a game changer.

[@daw70772]

Thank you bro. Its really seems to work better thank others

[@ahmedafgooye3427]

I'm from future, i stopped coding in 2023

[@gopalgoyal2136]

I dont know man, maybe I dont want to show all my code

[@nifemi_bosun]

First comment 🎉🎉🎉 Hello Tim 😊😊😊

[@mrcrackerist]

nah I will stick with my neovim :P

[@Martin-w1v6x]

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[@myJapanTV013]

Nice

[@ycombine1053]

You lost me at “can access your terminal”

[@TechWithTim]

You have to give permission to run command other than Grep etx

[@existenceisillusion6528]

Congratulations, you just made me watch a 12 minute ad and not even be mad about it 😂

[@TechWithTim]

🤝

[@LordHog]

I do c embedded for a living and I see no purpose and no desire to using AI code editors

[@saadhabashneh5587]

How to become an embedded developer ?

[@LordHog]

@@saadhabashneh5587 I don't have an easy answer. I sort of found my way into that realm. I first started off writing VB6 code back in the late 90s. Then was laid off. Took a contract position for an aerospace company and this is where I started my embedded C path. I have worked from aerospace, industrial controls, to storage. Even embedded has different layers. The low level interfacing with hardware and the application that run on top of that for the product. The two languages that are used the most are C and C++. I know people love to talk about Rust, but I haven't seen it used for any of the companies that I have worked at or seen it as a requirement when I am floated job descriptions. It is generally C then C++.

[@DetectiveConan990v3]

@@LordHog wow

[@LordHog]

@@saadhabashneh5587 Seems like my original post got lost or YT dropped it. How to become and embedded developer? I sort of fell into this realm. I did VB6 back in the 90s, then laid off in the late 90s. Got a contract position (then later full time) in an aerospace company. Also been in industrial controls and storage. Throughout about 25 year so so, it has always been C, with a small amount of C++ thrown in. These are still the dominate languages for the industries that I get emails regarding potential positions. To become an embedded engineer I would say the need to know assembly (for early start up code) to C is mandatory. Even for embedded there are different layers. The people closer to the actual hardware and those slightly above that which is basically application layer. Learning assembly and primarily C (and C++) then finding a company or industry where this is required.

[@SamsonBoicu]

I start coding with your videos. And I have nothing but respect for you. But this videos are just lies. Yes for the basic things ai is good. But mathematics is something ai can’t do. Ai is good for documentation. Is good for making notes. But no ai will ever code for you.

[@lutherblissett7873]

Of course it will, very soon. Full projects from start to finish as long as you use the proper prompts.

[@brand6633]

I thought this was just another Ai code editor. Lol I couldn't be any wronger. I am more than impressed

[@shalindalakshan2829]

Blown

[@tibimutasunta2132]

U spent more time chatting to AI ang reading and still doing the analyzing of its solutions🤣😂🤪💯👎👎👎

[@RobertoOrtis]

They just changed lots of stuff for their different tiers and turned into crap!

[@IdK-er6rh]

was pretty meh...

[@justchecking12]

I stay with cursor

[@Factory400]

Is it good, or are they a good sponsor? I wish you were sponsored by a person hygiene company.

[@robertdreyfus5436]

vscode is just fine, switch off the co-pilot and agent crap and enjoy your coding. if you're stuck, that's what stackoverflow is for. tim, you are channelling a lot of impressionable young minds down the wrong path