Coffee with VTuber Company CEO H2oSakana?! | The OOC Chat

[@Vedues]

Sakana is going to sleep on the couch tonight for sure.

[@YourTypicalMental]

Yuuuuuuuuuuup

[@OnePlayer480]

I hate that this is likely true. Poor Fishman lmao.

[@Beluga93737]

Probably with his coke and subway while a houshou stream playing on the background

[@cheekibreeki9155]

But that's when he gets to dream his idol dream

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Don't you mean his warehouse?

[@hoggo3789]

The idea that Sakana, aka the big boss fish, will come on stream to chat about what's going on with the company is one of the reasons Phase connect is my favorite Vtuber agency. Thanks for sharing your experiences and hardships. Best wishes to you all

[@smackheadedsqueakyweasel4624]

and he was on lumi's stream a couple weeks ago playing against her in starcraft in which he just destroyed her

[@OnePlayer480]

​@@smackheadedsqueakyweasel4624Or when Jelly told him to "kyz".

[@Rogue-a-Pogue]

Or when he tried to join Team Blaze during Day 3 of the Phase War and immediately got beaten up by the rest of the girls.

[@CCootauco]

​​@@Rogue-a-Pogue He's like a wholesome and far kinder Vince McMahon.

[@youravghuman5231]

​@@smackheadedsqueakyweasel4624where?

[@funghiman8492]

6:22 D: What happens to the company if you die again? S: Uhhh, I dunno actually, it would probably just go through like, "legal proceedings". It would just slowly die. D: Oh. But-but, I get to keep the model, right? S: No. D: Fuuuck. I can't 😂😂😂😂😂

[@OnePlayer480]

Man, their banter is so good.

[@LegalMindset]

W Fishman

[@4566Iggy]

​@@LegalMindsetDidn't expect to see you here.

[@samdaman9214]

​@@LegalMindset oh damn legal man himself

[@Fubuki-gun]

"Do you know how many of my plans that ruins?!?"

[@WheatDos]

Sakana is screwed: 1- Didn't compliment his wife-wife. 2 - Said the ONLY good thing of his work wife is her model. Either at home or at work, he's screwed.

[@UnisRapier]

Timestamp for saying he only hired her for the model?

[@WheatDos]

1:03:41 onwards

[@InfiniteEel]

The way you treated 'kevin' as if you were calling a dog over to feed him had me rolling lol

[@OnePlayer480]

lmao

[@brownhound05]

They probably do that a lot at home

[@YuSooKey]

Poor Mrs. Fishman

[@funghiman8492]

2:35 start for vod gang

[@riastradh]

I bless you with the silliest neck in your near future

[@naff78]

🤙

[@Momoyon]

thanks man

[@The_Vending_Machi]

thank

[@PowWowChikaBowWow6902]

Thanks dude

[@nyogtheeldritchgentleman]

16:18 Clara already reached 30k. She’s cute, funny, and does an incredible job engaging with the audience especially when juggling both EN and JP. That can’t be easy, she deserves a pat on the back. Her engagement is incredible. She proactively following all if her clippers which in turn is seen by her audience fueling further engagement. I’m actually worried she might burn herself out. I am also concerned for the rest of JP though. The Japanese market is over saturated with Vtubers and thus requiring a larger war chest for marketing. The girls are diligent and hard working, but that alone is not enough there is so much competition. How do things go viral in Japan? Obviously creating something scripted is lame, but you can create an environment where the chances of something exciting happening go up exponentially thus gaining additional visibility. Nothing like a little controlled chaos to boost engagement.

[@MSnow-pu4qs]

I mean Clara is doing fine, I dare say she's doing better in terms of numbers than Gen 3. Loki is very close to 20k and Yuu is at 17.5k rn. And this is just 3 months later. JP is doing great rn. Better than Fish expected I think.

[@lunascomments3024]

Iori is my anchor in JP Phicon. she is great. funny she got angry in the supermarket simulator because people pay in cash.

[@vandersonjunior8018]

Watching this stream made me realize that I'm really glad to be a Phase fan. And I'm glad that all of the Phase girls found a comfortable place to be themselves and to create a great community Pippa, Dizzy and Tenma are my favorite members!

[@doku7335]

Phase has the most valuable resource, the goodwill/potential of its community. The reason donothons are bad is they convert potential into money. Celebrations can waste it too early. Enough goodwill and you get unprompted superchat rains on random streams. Enough potential on an actually big celebration, and it becomes amazing. Glad to see Sakana having similar opinions

[@FelixValentiCh.]

1:31:07 never beating the wife/mistress allegations

[@joshd029]

Sometimes I try to give them benefit of the doubt, but every once and awhile they drop another hint

[@grafzeppelin4069]

@@joshd029 I'm pretty sure the reality is that Dizzy's brother is Sakana's friend who told him to sell coffee. So they've just known each other for a long time.

[@MrGeneralissimus]

Sakana is in my top 3 most entertaining vtubers in Phase. And He uses simple .jpeg. What a skill.

[@juampisito]

He said rigging was not neccesary and he is right XD

[@youravghuman5231]

Sakana is my top 1 male vtuber

[@PowWowChikaBowWow6902]

I’m still waiting for that exclusive Phase Weekly stream featuring H2O Sakana

[@sarahlachman1349]

Every CEO should be as committed to their company as this guy! He dives right in! Two fins up! and I'm not even a fish person but something about a fish in a suit hits different! LOL Also if he does have a real wife it would be great to see the Mrs. Fish appear too, I bet it would be hilarious!

[@tokukao8987]

granted I'm no sakana expert but it was cool how much more relaxed he seemed for this stream -- not sure if dizzy is easy to talk to or if she drugged him also really cool of dizzy adding info about indie stuff vs corpo, especially since I'm sure there were some aspiring vtubers watching hilariously dizzy trying to throw the bone to sakana and the audience like, "what do you do besides the warehouse?" and sakana seemingly trying to refrain from saying idk so relatable, corpo jobs and someone asks what you do and it's like, bro idk I'm so busy all the time with the most random problems

[@lemonlupinreuben5362]

I mean, he and dizzy have past relationship(as advisor/help/maybe relatives?/probably not lovers but fanartists can dream) so he's probably just comfier. Dizzy locked Sakana with her to get him to let her be talent, so if you're close enough to do that then this is easy work.

[@Lancynically]

She drugged him 100%

[@ChaosAngel667]

Hint> Tea can be done with a lot of types of herbs.

[@OnePlayer480]

​@@lemonlupinreuben5362We will never know how that really went down. It probably devolved into Sakana bullying Dizzy somehow lol.

[@FelixValentiCh.]

he stopped answering at the end because the drugs wore off

[@juni5822]

I honestly love these streams and I love Phase. I vibe so much with the style of the company and creative freedoms of the talent. I wish for it a long amazing future.

[@PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED]

Sakana encouraging his employees to have something planned after vtubing is so nice and caring 🥺

[@patjuice8677]

Bro is thinking ahead

[@colex110]

just a surrogate dad boss vibe. he cares and has put alot of effort to keep everyone happy.

[@kapparomeo]

The "gaping fish" image for Sakana really is a genius design. It can look simultaneously gormless/bewildered/horrified, according to any shifting context of what's on-screen, without needing a single frame of animation. The fact that he's not anthropomorphic, he's an upright fish-out-of-water bulging out of an ill-fitting suit (the line of his gill could also be a jowly cheek or roll of a squeezed neck around a tight collar), also reinforces Phase Connect's zany image, implying that it's less slickly 'corporate', rather a rough-and-ready upstart seat-of-your-pants operation - maybe less controlled, but more exciting.

[@TrueSpixe]

Ngl if it was phase tea and not phase coffee i mightve actually bought that

[@DarkmonstaR]

Damn i would buy it too.

[@PressA2Die]

I want some coco

[@Hebimaru92]

i would sell a kidney for phase tea :D

[@FelixValentiCh.]

Same

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@PressA2Die Ready cocoa powder to just mix into milk would be cool.

[@8Harbinger8]

May your suffering be short Sakana🙏

[@SideswipePrime606]

I just wanna say. As someone who works in the toy industry, seeing chat explode with "never deal with Chinese companies lmao!" made me so upset, because when it comes to manufacturing _you don't have a choice_ . The majority of the world's manufacturing infrastructure is in China. The factory being Chinese has nothing to do with the guy taking Sakana for a ride. There are just good factory managers and bad factory managers over there.

[@dtzyYT]

The kids will learn eventually

[@Tooyule]

Yeah, but even Chinese famous brand had a lots of bad management especially their electronics and EV cars And, that's why you must always remember the risk of buying something from chinese

[@Tooyule]

But I'm agree that there is still a lots of good brand there, especially mid budget phone like mine. 7 years in use already

[@fjdkslfjdkwhgioperwhgjkoldsf]

@@dtzyYTthe “kids” are like 20-30 years old with propaganda already deeply seeped into their brain.

[@CatboyLover69]

Thanks for the stream! Hearing my oshi always brightens my day, and Dizzy was there too i guess.

[@MSnow-pu4qs]

Fishman aka Kevin Li, mostly known as "Hey" or "You"

[@rafresendenrafresenden.1644]

Fish.......

[@elementochannel6994]

these OOC streams are so refreshing & help you, as a viewer to get to know some behind the scenes & architecture.

[@Macabri_2k10]

I have never really been into Phase Connect, I only ever saw them on the side lines, but what Sakana says is extremely based as a CEO it's not the fast growth (more and more talents), but retention that counts. Make your people happy give them support and the company will get it back. Don't throw as much shit at the wall and see what sticks, that is what gets you a bad reputation. Also nice that he can casually talk about such things on stream. He seems to make smart and well thought through decision, before rushing in blind and chasing the green...

[@goleogthais]

i unironically love dizzy's screechy high-pitched voice, FISHMAN HATE, DIZZY LOVE

[@gibberingmouther710]

I was just thinking it would be nice for Fishman to do a stream or video that was a "State of Phase Connect" kind of thing. Then this stream popped up in my feed. Perfect timing!

[@Lancynically]

About Phase Wars, I was supposed to join game 1 for Minecraft, loaded and ready, until the power went out for 4 hours (by then, I would be OMW to school). I felt really bad for it because it means an additional burden for them to find a sub and put them in. It's very frustrating since I was unable to join any game for that day but at least I got to do Fall Guys.

[@d007ization]

Forcing Fish-sama to say "hi lovebugs" isn't ooc? Alright, alright. Mask off, eh?

[@pavelowjohn9167]

I've been watching Dizzy for about 3 or 4 weeks now, and I still keep coming back to this VOD, one of my favorite for sure 🙂

[@UnisRapier]

1:03:18 and it was that moment sakana was forced to sleep on the couch

[@mknigh]

Thanks for the stream Fishman and Dizzy. Always interesting to hear from the big man himself. OtsuDizzler

[@BSGA22]

Thanks for the interview with Sakana, Dizzy.

[@jonnyrbgomes]

why not put an option button on the merch store, that asks if you want to consolidate all of your purchases to come in at the same time or to ship it as they come in, with a slight increased cost to help cover for the increased cost of sending multiple packages

[@CJODell12]

Phase has earned such a good reputation partially by (somehow) avoiding any major controversies that could hurt their standing.

[@malcolmliang]

The plushie guy, not saying this is what happened but a lot of them will attempt to crank a few more % out by buying stocks/crypto in between and this does not always pan out and they run short on cash before becoming insolvent through incompetency. Happened to one construction companies here, guy brought doge at $1 with home deposits instead of building houses.

[@wyatthale9119]

51:13 really pushing the fuamoco at home angle are we dizzy?

[@Verges73]

That was interesting, thanks for doing a chat with Fishman. Take care, Dizzy love

[@MrLalabai]

I'm an accountant with several years of experience and managing P&L in vtuber company sounds like hell. Good luck XD

[@AdrenalStorm]

I really enjoyed this husband and wife interview. 😂

[@OnePlayer480]

Cool interview, well done Fishman and Dizzy! Have a good week!

[@AzureFides]

imo, for the phase war 3 I would love to see more talent only match. PW2, most of the time it's just the community carried their talents to win. I want to see Tenma actually fight with Pippa or something like that.

[@Alargator]

Thank you for the long chat with Kevin!

[@HeroeUrbano]

This was a cool Behind the Scenes. You should also have a stream bringing in the other staff as well 😁 Kuu, Nikki, Muumi, Papagorira, etc 😜

[@einhasad7]

1:09:00 On the topic of both covers and 3d models, I wish that people put those two things together more often. A lot of times vtubers want a 3d model to make some live concerts and they even THINK of doing recorded content with it but they never end up doing it. There are a few vtubers out there, even indie ones, that use their 3d models in their mvs and that makes their music videos so much cooler

[@nyogtheeldritchgentleman]

13:05 Logistically speaking I was surprised you allowed the fans to sign up and participate. I would have done a game like Jackbox. Or something it would be less stressful to manage.

[@grafzeppelin4069]

"Let's let Phase fans join a Quiplash or Tee KO game. Surely they won't write anything that'll get us in trouble with KZbin."

[@cyko5950]

sakana's take on smoking 17:40 is the most business man thing i have ever heard

[@000Krim]

Thank you very much Sakana and Dizzy

[@nyogtheeldritchgentleman]

29:55 From the USA? Either supply chain issues for raw materials, staffing issues, local government, or overall small business incompetence. I’m trying to remember if the ports in California still locked down at that time. That nonsense created all sorts of logistical nightmares.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Coof did so much damage to so many industries.

[@Archedgar]

nazifornia is ruled by emperor newsum. That guy ruined so many things, including supply chain, manufacturing & power plants across the state.

[@LunexLunertic64]

Dang, how'd I miss this. Ah well at least I finished with the VOD now. Plenty of good things I hear, so I'm looking forward to that.

[@cjnf11]

I honestly like your voice and I'm glad you got into Phase Connect with this model too, your face expressions are nice. I kinda get what Sakana says about the cute anime voices though, but on the other hand it's a matter of personal preference. Phase Connect has lots of different voices and I think it's great. Makes the talents unique. And of course personality itself matters a lot. This was a nice stream, it's always interesting to hear about Phase Connect behind the scenes stuff and your thoughts about it.

[@nyogtheeldritchgentleman]

23:10 Wait is no one controlling the availability of inventory on your website? Set a certain amount of product aside for bundles and keep those strictly segregated from individual products.

[@CardestHock]

1:28:00 Sakana meets Tenma for the first time.

[@nyogtheeldritchgentleman]

22:33 are you guy still using the Pronto theme for you website? Not sure why I just thought of that other than that theme irks me.

[@rogerrowsdower2507]

FISHMAN RESPECT o7

[@fauxshowyo]

Phase is so GOAT

[@deadlyfugu1592]

fish hate dizzy love also thanks for reminding me i'm still beanless...

[@ChudBoulder]

Thank you for the cozy stream ! Also the Fish should better stop sladering the Dizzy voice or else 🔫!

[@MSnow-pu4qs]

Almost fucking 7 figs a year on commissions, holy shit

[@dymbow4535]

Literally my favorite chuuba company, keep on the great work!

[@000Krim]

Also when Sakana merch?

[@redkommie80]

Silly Fishman and Dizzy

[@CCootauco]

Kevin is my oshi.

[@yanyanfourtwenty]

Well... Regarding the Phase Wars debacle... The rando draw of community members that can participate should all be vetted to have a gaming PC and has the financial capacity to buy their own games...

[@Ytilee]

And how do you check for that without it being hundreds or thousands more of man hours?

[@ReaverBharash]

The games they chose for PW2 were all free. I think even Fortnite is free. I wouldn’t sign up for it like I didn’t sign up for Minecraft, yuck

[@m1garandMUSIC]

Water of life is agua de vida

[@ZombieKatrina]

Im just waiting for Sakuna Merch

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Based Coca-Cola enjoying fish.

[@Rath_Burn]

2:39 start

[@TonyTama]

Excellent stream. Also Dizzy the way your arms and coffee is set up makes it seems like your arms are crazy long.

[@WheatDos]

Those are the arms of a lovebug that's holding the cup for her.

[@koriharpoon3357]

Cool interview.

[@PK_Scratch]

I wonder how much this will feed the Sakana x Dizzy shipping.

[@mr.stotruppen8724]

tbh it wouldn't surprise me if they were cousins or something

[@OnePlayer480]

​@@mr.stotruppen8724Probably just friends who need to troll each other like this often or else it's not the same.

[@mr.stotruppen8724]

Nah. Men and women can't really be close friends like that without some other link and the way she got hired/their existing relationship even when she was at her previous company all but seals it.

[@Vedues]

I've always assumed they were cousins as well, but the way she casually bugged him about buying her stuff really made me stop and wonder if they were married.

[@mr.stotruppen8724]

Chinese family moment

[@polkalamypekopeko2969]

I genuinely thought Jelly smoking is a bit, turns out that it is real. (?) Also Sakana : When is Phase Connect IPO? I am gonna be your top investor lol

[@000Krim]

I think they are never letting her forget it

[@mitsune13]

wait, Jerry actually smokes!?

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

Needs correction.

[@scot6666]

She is so beautiful

[@andryreymas563]

Dream Invaders would be Doki, Filian and Mint. Just a dream tho

[@SzefAdonis]

Fun stream. Phase to the moon.

[@Pers0n97]

1:31:45 I was one of the trend setter on Dizzy X Sakana shipping, and I feel so vindicated right now.

[@pippupaladin]

Pippa and Tenma sure did disappear at Offkai. True to advertising.

[@Shajirr_]

What did he mean by "bank runs"? In modern banks you can do pretty much anything online. Never need to go to the actual physical location.

[@BoroSendevar]

Maybe wire transfers for international artists? It may be easier to have a bank teller perform a bunch rather than set-up individual transfers, especially if certain countries or people may not all use Paypal.

[@Shajirr_]

@@BoroSendevar you can set-up pre-defined transfers in a bank and make a payment in like 5 seconds with that. Going to the bank would probably take as much time as doing 200-300 transfers this way yourself, depending how far it is.

[@benjaminkwilliams]

I would work for Sakana.

[@Kaibors]

Dizzy is gross -sakana aka kevin

[@grafzeppelin4069]

google translates "sakana aka kevin" to "my name is Kevin" found sakana's alt account

[@OnePlayer480]

​@@grafzeppelin4069IQ 200 move.

[@AmuterSI]

"Can you like not be gross?" -Sakana aka kevin when talking to Dizzy.

[@dtzyYT]

We need the Urara model back

[@MythosTheSophist]

1:03:25 got an ad right there. The fish man working his magic

[@FelixValentiCh.]

sakana should come to america, he eats like an American

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

That could be fun, Phase Connect could become an FFL and start selling themed AR15 lowers with motifs from all the talents.

[@Haranaconda]

Dizzy Sakana marriage confirmed

[@OnePlayer480]

I think it's the opposite and they aren't, just because it's funnier to believe someone else makes Sakana suffer as much if not even more so mentally than his wife lol.

[@FelixValentiCh.]

it’s easier to believe that dizzy is his wife than that Sakana can run a company that is 90% female employees, watch other vtubers regularly, and be close friends with another woman that isn’t his wife

[@backgroundnoise9310]

I must watch this soon.

[@vaendryl]

WHOOO PHASE-CON 2025 CONFIRMED!

[@LATIN-XMAN]

1:30:02 Leakana at it again

[@FearlessSpecialist]

Good stream. Can't believe Kevin taught me some stuff.

[@Nahan_Boker94]

Well after see multiple banters and interviews of Sakana. I see why Sakana X Dizzy is a thing. While I definitely doubt they are married, I think they pretty much close waay before Phase Connect a thing. You can see Kevin/Sakana so relaxed and speak with Dizzy like old friends. Even Dizzy seems to be more comfortable and used to call him Kevin than Sakana. About the chinese company that should produce the fumo for the girls seems dodgy. I think after I see sudden burst of chinese is struggling/major slowdown in their country since last year to this week. I think it also played a role. Not gonna say sakana should give that company a slide. But yeah, try to avoid chinese based factory nowadays until things gets stable. Not forget how USA seems to gatekeeping chinese based services/products to western markets. So try other countries like in SEA. About 3D model is overrated, judging by many vtubers, I agreed. If they cant show why they need 3d model, why you invest on it? The only Vtuber that utilized it properly and full to its potential is Filian. And so far shes the only one after 3-4 years (even more than codemiko and zentreya, while they have more advanced model and tech they never fully utilized the VR capability. They end up sitting & standing around. Filian dance, ragdoll, flips, perform stunts that blends cartoony and IRL. No hate to both of them but compared to filian they just making 3d version of 2d model and does what fleshtuber does. Nothing really special.). Even to Holo, Niji, etc. all of them end up just sit, using it for few games or roleplay, idol concert and have limited facial expressions. End up we rarely seen them in VR world. Pippa has one and she seems awkward using it while it looks good so we rarely seen her do it. So why need 3d model? Except Sakana can find someone like Filian, I understand why he doesn't want to invest in 3D models.

[@grafzeppelin4069]

46:50 lmao

[@davidvasquez749]

Very nice

[@erasedoggO316]

1:32:49 we lost him Hes dead

[@TheMercian13]

My favourite online married couple

[@RaiosSephi]

Even if Kevin “Sakana” Lee tells everyone his name… Kevin Lee is literally a common name, like… thousands of people is a Kevin or a Lee or Kevin Lee

[@NuryPPanaligan]

All I could say is do a bit more research

[@Decemeber1st]

It was pretty essy to find him bro.... ngl...

[@fjdkslfjdkwhgioperwhgjkoldsf]

I found his LinkedIn in 1 google search

[@AshersAesera]

Great interview Dizzy

[@treadnokash7598]

I kinda love dizzy

[@balljointedmercenary]

dizzy i love how fake you sound, in post-structuralist hyperrealist sort of way

[@masterkillx]

sakana is wrong dizzys voice is great

[@ernest9868]

I'm going Tuesday at landmark in new west!