CohhCarnage Reacts To The Summer Games Fest 2024 XBOX Avowed Deep Dive

Cohh sits down to watch the SGF 2024 XBOX Avowed Deep Dive. - Watch live at / cohhcarnage
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[@monsterurby]

At first I was sceptical about being forced to play a Godlike, but the idea that you don't know who your God is hooked me right back in.

[@steele5823]

Out of curiosity, why does it matter? Has everyone forgotten the big reveal of PoE1 that all the gods are frauds? Just powerful ancient magic wielding mortals who created the wheel?…

[@monsterurby]

@@steele5823 I don't think people have forgotten that. I think people are just annoyed that there seems to be less and less player choice with character creation. You can only be a human or an elf, there's no determined classes and you have to be a godlike. I personally don't mind any of that if it takes pressure off the Devs and it's related to the story. I just hope we get a fairly robust character creation system

[@Celestiusify]

To answer The question of why the combat at the begining felt weird, it was because the weapon was not upgraded, after she upgraded her weapon the animation changed and the feedback from the strike was more on point.

[@michaelhudson3737]

i realised the armour seems to have DT like Fallout New Vegas. so thats probably happen when u dont have enough damage to break through their DT.

[@Phreaksy]

But what about those of us who hoard everything and never use it "I might need these upgrade components for a really good weapon"

[@Beef_Witted]

Third Person is actually huge for me, thats awesome.

[@kharacon]

Got way more excited hearing about the Godlike and Godless part!

[@Justin-wr4sj]

Thank you so much to the youtube team. You are amazing for providing this to us.

[@Redroomjjgfd]

The queen creature definitely should have some kind of effect on their voice, no way a wooden-looking creature sounds the exact same as a human.

[@imshail]

Considering that these types of creatures are souls from Eir Glanfath that were reincarnated into that it's not too surprising that they're using human voices considering their souls originally come from humans

[@ronuss]

obsidian said the core game is done , and now the focus is on touch ups, bug fixes and polish, so hopefully they will fix small details like that.

[@anotherks7297]

Delemgan are known for luring kith to their death, so I'm not really surprised by them having a similar voice..

[@whydoidoit]

I dunno, something looks fishy about the weapon power comparison they displayed. It looked like they were just doing a bunch of pommel strikes before they upgraded the sword and then afterwards they were actually using the normal attack alongside heavy attacks. I would have to see more to get a clearer picture but will remain cautiously optimistic. *Edit* Ok upon watching it back, the different animations are a design choice to give feedback. So when your character is not using the weapon effectively there is visual feedback, that's pretty cool.

[@michaelhudson3737]

yeah seems so which is an interesting choice, it can sometimes feel bad to have stats effect ur gameplay that much(gun accuracy in rpgs etc) but cool in theory.

[@graycap111b5]

Combat with inadequate equipment feeling terrible might actually motivate players to frequently upgrade equipment... unless they have little to no patience, which will easily filter them out.

[@erichodson3718]

Shout out to the shirt man! Are you going to be doing a fresh run of Stalker series before September 5th?

[@SenorMorgenStern]

Her presentation makes me very happy for some reason.

[@Mmachine88]

It was great to see and hear your thoughts on the deep dive of Avowed. I love Obsidian but am more into their games - New Vegas and outer worlds. Ive never been a big crpg guy, so it was great to hear from a Pillers fan since ive never played them but the lore always seemed cool and ive very much looking forward to Avowed. Thanks for the insights!

[@brohogany9920]

I really hope its good.

[@SenorMorgenStern]

This sounds very promising, Hyped.

[@peterkirby7546]

I always felt like in Deadfire the side-quests WERE the main quest (particularly the political faction choices and conflicts). The ostensible through-line that following Eothas provides, always felt like more of a device just put there to frame everything else in the game. Having said that though, I agree that they could have improved it a little, by having more direct tie-ins to the Eothas through-line. I also think they messed up by putting all the deity-focussed DLCs into the late-game; it would have been better if they had split some things throughout the game's entire progression, similar to what they did with the White March.

[@prestonwinters9656]

I’m so ready to play this first play-through as a pirate sword and pistols I really hope they let us put elemental damage on the weapons. I also hope in the dlc they add more of the classes I really want a cypher and a chanter

[@SamIhsan06]

Yo Cohh, will you play it in 1st person perspective or 3rd person?

[@Phreaksy]

11:35 Mushroom people butts

[@AtreyusNinja]

u r weird

[@NTeKLullaby]

I've always hoped with games like these that devs would take a slice of what Arkane's Dark Messiah brought to the table, specifically in regards to combat and world interactivity. For those that don't know about the game. It's a physics driven first person action fantasy melee/magic game. There was a lot of interactivity with objects you could throw, environmental hazards and the whole magic aspect, specifically Ice magic brought a lot to the table: by making surfaces slick, enemies could trip, which opens them up for a finisher or even make them slide into environmental dangers, such as chasms or traps. Arx Fatalis, another one of Arkane's earlier games had an intricate casting system, where you'd have to draw runes to cast specific spells. If you ever played Magicka, imagine that spellcasting system, but more complex. I'm still in it for the worldbuilding and story. But combat didn't really look all that exciting to me.

[@ronuss]

yeah its crazy how good that game was, yet hardly anyone copied anything from it , weird.

[@blainehock754]

They won me over when they revealed 3rd person gameplay. I'm in

[@MellowFriese]

Well since i am a 1200h BG3 Player, this looks like my next big RPG to play over and over again

[@jfkst1]

This is the only action RPG in a fantasy setting coming out in the near future. I am really hoping it is a quality game.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

Tainted Grail Fall of Avalon exists. Technically Dragon Age Veilguard will also be this though that trailer was pretty bad so I don't blame you for being discouraged. Flintlock is also a thing though that leans a bit into Souls calling itself a "Souls-Lite" so might not be your liking.

[@sm0ky12]

​@@CrazyxEnigma the actual dragon age gameplay looks 1000x better than the character trailer

[@CrazyxEnigma]

​@@sm0ky12It was a clip less than a minute all it shows is the city of Minrathous which looks nice. We'll really see tomorrow.

[@jfkst1]

@@CrazyxEnigma I have no interest in Dragon Age or Fable. I thought Tainted Grail was in EA still? I am holding out hope for Wayward Realms. I respect Souls but it isn't my preference. Just so disappointing there are such limited options.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

​@@jfkst1Tainted Grail will be fully released sooner than Wayward Realms unless something goes very very wrong. I share your hope on Wayward Realms a more modern Daggerfall alone is an interesting enough premise, hopefully their Kickstarter goes well and they can get a publisher like they want.

[@Highonskooma]

I thought at first that godlike ment that I had to look like one, but knowing that I don’t have to made me feel much better

[@Highonskooma]

Also my running theory is that our god is the one who broke the wheel, it fits really well into the story so far.

[@casongriffin6984]

So on xbox both games are on gamepass would it be pretty good to start playing them and finish them before avowed drops or would it be better to get a synopsis of the story on youtube

[@Abdalhakeem707]

Avowed is dropping in November so you have enough time

[@casongriffin6984]

@@Abdalhakeem707 oh snap they finally dropped a release date! About time thx for the info boss

[@Abdalhakeem707]

@casongriffin6984 they didn't actually it was leaked😭 and np hope you enjoy pillars!

[@casongriffin6984]

@@Abdalhakeem707 I actually started playing and holy crap I didn't expect it to pull me in as much as it did. I'm playing a cipher and it's absolutely great. I'm already pumped to play the second one

[@Esteban_907]

Also i gotta say, having no music and very quiet sound effects on the combat isnt doing the game justice i feel. It seems that they are making this game more accessible to more players by having a more simple approach similar to outer worlds. We shall see if that is the right move or not

[@quan8394]

If it isn't in the game already there should be a pvp mode it would be fun to fight each other's character builds as a added mode later on

[@elvistran4595]

I'm craving for a first-person game with a story and decision-making like Skyrim, Fallout or Outer world. We don't get a lot of these games. This seems perfect.

[@forsakeneremith3770]

Also, she said at the beginning this is NOT a sequel

[@imshail]

it's not a sequel as there's very few shared characters, but they already said before that this takes place after Pillars of Eternity 2 on the timeline

[@anotherks7297]

@@imshail Source?

[@Almethese84]

@@anotherks7297 Google!

[@EmperorDxD]

​@@anotherks7297was in the previous deep dive here also character from pillars 2

[@EmperorDxD]

It's not a sequel in the sense it's not a pillars game I assume pillars games will still be made

[@KasiresHK47]

Now, if an orlan companion in this game would be voiced by Liam o'Brien like in PoE2, I'll definetaly be doing some climbing ... wait, what.

[@theKonfusion]

I don't mind lower graphics and stilized, if the world and everything is beautiful and rich. Grounded was one of my favourite games of recently, and its similar designs. I still trust Obsidian can cook some great dialogues and story. I'm looking forward to this game. :)

[@Cancer_Cam]

This is my first time seeing anything for Avowed. Do companions serve no purpose in combat??

[@qwert_au]

6:00 I mean she clearly said it's not a sequel, so I'm not sure that it happens "after 2" or that an ending is relevant???

[@ronuss]

it takes place during deadfire, and goes on after

[@Andrewthehasty]

i get a good taste of fable from this.

[@jesperjohansson6959]

Most things look great. The skill tree looked pretty bare minimum though. Also wish nights were darker, but that's personal preference...

[@spectrecular9721]

12:00 - It used to be "Can we go there?... Yes!" but I feel lately its either "No" or "$19.99 DLC" in an unfinished, buggy game. These are some truly sad times for AAA games.

[@bloodletter9024]

wish i could still play as an Orlan Been an orlan since the first game

[@jake4179]

I’ve got a better feeling on Avowed after seeing this, looks more promising than DA at least.

[@chypres89]

The FOV was killing me. and sad they did not show any 3rd person combat.

[@mortecai222]

I feel like I very much want to love this game but it’s just not doing it for me, luckily I can still check it out on gamepass and make up my own mind

[@merlylvsm]

Felt the same with Outer Worlds tbh. Being set in Pillars world's tugging at me to give it a shot, tho

[@Redroomjjgfd]

There is one thing I think may carry it for me which is the environments, they look very pretty, exploration is something I always enjoy even in bad games, narrative is a big deal for me as well so if they have good exploration and good stories then there's just getting over the gameplay loop if it's lacking.

[@marcuskane1040]

I will try it only because I love the world of Pillars. If it was set in some new setting then it would've been an easy skip without a question.

[@ldsneo]

Wouldn't it be amazing if, in the background, a new unannounced Pillars of Eternity 3 game was being developed based on this "new" unknown god whose creating these godlike beings? After watching this vod I'm absolutly replaying Pillars 1 and 2.

[@shaunthemighty]

What is with all these new fantasy games having these bright neon color schemes. Everything looks fortnitish/that recent aweful saints row style. It's so off putting

[@nadrojekrubify]

The same worries I had from playing The Outer Worlds has transferred over to this game. Obsidian does a fantastic job in terms of interesting quests, characters, setting and rpg mechanics. But where I struggle is their combat and skills. In The Outer Worlds the combat was just okay and the skills were much of the same where it was passive percentage boosts

[@ronuss]

yeah it does just look like the outer worlds in eora. with the same combat issues as that game. does look like a bigger game though, so we're see i guess.

[@t0zu]

I feel their strength has always been the characters and little personal side stories. Personally that's why I love their games, even when I know the rest around it is gonna be a solid 7/10 at best.

[@EmperorDxD]

Also by the end of pillars 2 being a godlike is not always a good things it's actually ass idea

[@Calinks]

Something just seems off with the game. I think for me, nothing looks incredible. Like when we first saw Outer Worlds I was very excited because it reminded me of Fallout, granted I didn't like Outer Worlds as much as I thought I would but it at least looked really great to me. Here I am just kind of meh. I am still going to play it becauuue I have enjoyed every Obsidian game I have touched but I am really hoping the final product is bigger than the sum of its parts. I would love for this to be a great RPG that get recognized this fall.

[@diuran1919]

They need fix FOV and why enemies light up when you hit them hmm

[@SupernovaOrange]

I feel like the game will be good, I just worry there won’t be much game. Only to level 15 feels really short

[@shadykiwi13]

It all depends, BG3 was 100+ hours and only had 12 levels. Really hoping its something like that and not a 30 hr game.

[@yotuel9064]

The lvl 15 skill has three grades so I doubt 15 would be the max level.

[@kwest4204]

My biggest issue is how similar this looks to the outer worlds the melee combat specifically looks very unimpressive

[@alejandroflores7219]

The only thing that worries me is the ability system. Only 3 clasess??? PoE has some of the coolest builds in the crpg. So many possibilities

[@Grimjr7]

If they didn't allow you to mix and match abilities I would agree. But since they do, the class you use is essentially customizable. Most classes boil down to a combination of wizard, rogue and warrior. A cleric is a Battle mage which is basically a warrior wizard who gets their wizard abilities from a god. Most classes that aren't those three can easily be boiled down to them or a combination of them or a slight tweak on them. Druids are basically wizards who focus on nature related spells and polymorph spells. And who can have an animal companion permanently without having to cast any type of summoning spell? Every class other than wizard, warrior or rogue is just those things with extra steps.

[@alejandroflores7219]

@@Grimjr7 you have a good point. Still i would preffer that the game has dedicated abilities to specific classes. Or for example, unlock de cipher or any other advance class. Yes you can combine those three classes but PoE is much more than that.

[@ketdev7042]

Wasn't sure about Avowed, but after watching this, I think I might give it a go.

[@brittanyjones2902]

Should I play POE before I play this?

[@Doom_Hawk]

You should play those games regardless, they're great. Not exactly necessary to play, but you'll no doubt enjoy the experience more.

[@voyddd]

I loved PotE2 Deadfire, I hope this will be a great expansion to this epic world. Outer Worlds combat also was not the best out there but the game itself was a gem!

[@ezzinie1234]

The FOV looks okay to me, the flashing on hit gets more annoying to me because that would give me a headache within 10 minutes of fighting whereas FOV i can push through somewhat...

[@ryanglacier30]

While this does look pretty good. I feel like they're making the same mistake as outer worlds where the loot is terribly boring and the upgrades are just stronger versions of the last 10 you found. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[@michaelhudson3737]

that's actually when i stopped playing, when i got the same gun lvl 2. i didn't mean too but just never went back.

[@michaelhudson3737]

@14:47 looks like u get common and rare weapons that are different pickups(but same model?) and limit how much they can be upgraded but that first sword is also a unique weapon which also lets u upgrade it all the way from common to legendary and seems to hbave a unique effect and model.

[@ronuss]

i mean pillars loot and upgrade system works just like in this game. but its only late game that you start getting really interesting loot. if the same happens in avowed i think it should be good.

[@marcuskane1040]

@@ronuss difference is that pillars is party based game and not a single character action one. +5 damage in CRPG makes wonders, especialy if couple of your party members get such an upgrade, while in such game as Avowed you won't even notice it

[@ryanglacier30]

@@marcuskane1040 exactly a CRPG feels different. Hitting for 85 vs 90 in a fps is minor but 85-90 in a CRPG is next level awesome

[@-EndlessHorizon]

I love eora and im extremely interested in this game.

[@SonOfConn]

... Bbbanter

[@ronuss]

Still crazy to me we had to wait this long to see actual gameplay and learn about how some of the system work, along with story and showing off menus. All the trailers b4 this makes the game look like a generic action game. Obsidian should focus on showing off there strengths. I guess MS are in charge of the PR stuff. The game looks much better here just because we get to actually see the rpg side of things. Side note, please dont show gameplay with an fov of a horse with blinders on lol.

[@raskolnikov6443]

Hm I’m not convinced. But we will see.

[@monsterman272]

My expectations aren’t high for this. I don’t have much confidence in obsidian after outer worlds, really didn’t like the writing in that game. But I hope I’m wrong and this game blows me away.

[@ZainAhmad-jl4vt]

Patel led projects have had decent writing, I really enjoyed the white march DLC

[@TheEditorify]

The sword feels like a blunt weapon in this gameplay

[@imshail]

That's because it's not upgraded at the start, once they upgrade it the animation changes, watch the full video

[@colonelbuttons]

Even with the upgrade it feels like you’re not actually hitting the enemies.

[@whizzztv155]

I’m sorry but the combat looks very bad

[@smagu]

Going from the huge party, massive customization, tons of classes and builds, and total party control to...first person slashy is basically a no go for me. This is a totally different genre from the first two and much less interesting to me.

[@EmperorDxD]

Its a sequel ​@@smagu

[@alessimc]

Oh man. That hit flash thing looks awful. I don’t think that’s what people meant when they asked for impact in weapon hits.

[@iamasimplmao9260]

strong disagree

[@paxconsciente3352]

Looks good imo. Feel sry for those who won't enjoy it

[@Guitarman5705]

It was very apparent at the beginning but got better after the weapon got upgraded, think it's just a key in to let you know you aren't dealing a lot of damage against that level of enemy

[@Redroomjjgfd]

@@iamasimplmao9260i think it just indicates when your weapon is underleveled, it still looks a little wonky though. Its like you're holding a torch instead of a sword.

[@KavalanSol]

Wait POE 2 isn't even out right? How is Cohh talking in passes tence about how that mainstory was?

[@CohhCarnage]

Pillars of Eternity 2. 😁

[@eatmyshamrock]

Pillars of Eternity is not the same as Path of Exile

[@thereshi6599]

Its nice to see cohh being positive for once. After watching the showcase and his reaction to MOST of the games there its refreshing to see a less picky cohh.

[@DodgeyWizard]

I am concerned by the lack of dodging and rolling

[@darksteel78]

Looks like dodge is a standard action since there's a skill to reduce its stamina cost in the ranger skill tree. Didn't see any rolling though. Could be that the dodge is not very effective unless you spec into it.

[@Cy4nMod]

They literally showed dodging in the trailer

[@crihard8591]

This is kinda painful to watch from the start when Cohh was misinformed that the game is after 2 when it’s actually a prequel

[@CohhCarnage]

Ahh was that confirmed? To be honest, still very interesting. As a prequel, maybe we start the wheel here? Maybe indicative of a complete separate cycle of start/stopping? Still a super fun theme to be exploring, prequel OR sequel!

[@mayoi6723]

@@CohhCarnage I thought it was after the events of deadfire as said by Carrie Patel

[@jfkst1]

My understanding is there is no confirmed time frame of the game events yet.

[@crihard8591]

⁠@@CohhCarnageyeah Carrie said it’s not a sequel but didn’t specifically say prequel too so that might be on me, but that’s what they have been saying before in interviews/articles in the past. It could be set hundreds of years in the past or concurrently with pillars timeline. Creation of the wheel would be an interesting premise but SPOILERS….. The gods didn’t exist before the wheel was created and from what we saw from the trailer, they are present.

[@Redroomjjgfd]

@@crihard8591so you judged someone's reactions based on the info you don't even know is true or not. Man, really? According to the PoE Wiki, its events chronologically take place shortly after Deadfire but are not directly connected, but this could be true or false since we don't know, only the studio does. Unless I can't find some article that has a direct quote from a staff member?

[@JammyJAYUK]

I was looking forward to avowed, but not soo much now.. is this the problem with more women making games now.. soo much drama rather then quality gameplay.

[@ZainAhmad-jl4vt]

what drama has avowed had? carrie patel has made some of the best stuff from obsidian in recent years.

[@jfkst1]

I'm against any Didn't Earn It hire. But I thought Patel was not like the others and actually has proven competent.