Coilovers vs Air Lift Performance! THE HARD TRUTH.

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Speedhaus

Speedhaus

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Is Air lift performance better than Coilovers? Matt here at SPEEDhaus has been Installing Air ride on cars for almost 15 years. He shares some insight and his honest opinion into which ones best for you! There is a huge debate in the car community about which type of suspension system is better; Coilovers or Air Suspension? Today, we will be explaining the pros and cons of each suspension type. Whether you are looking into deciding what setup to purchase or just want to hear the other side of the argument, this should leave you walking away with a better understanding of the 2 suspension systems.
Air Lift Performance is the performance division of Air Lift Company and produces full air ride and air management systems for lowered and performance vehicles. Our bolt-on, direct-OEM-replacement kits are designed precisely for each individual chassis and with a commitment to quality are engineered to fit, work and last.
Air Lift began engineering and manufacturing performance air suspension products in 1949. Our performance days started in NASCAR and the success of our products quickly spread to the wider consumer market.
Air Lift Performance (previously known as EasyStreet and Air Lift Lifestyle & Performance) has also gone to great lengths to support the do-it-yourself market with our universal air suspension products for hot rods, late model and classic cars.
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@bradNewBuilds
@bradNewBuilds Жыл бұрын
Quick and to the point! Thank you for the great video
@michelle692day
@michelle692day Ай бұрын
Thankyou for this video. Sept ‘22 I bagged our Maserati Quattroporte using Accuair and KZbin videos! Never had any issues so far. I had zero experience besides vids like this.
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 Ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@yodrum
@yodrum 3 ай бұрын
Just got bags installed on my 86 for the first time and I'm loving it so far. Just the convenience of adjusting height on the fly when I need to is great. Only issue I have was I wish I bought the smaller 1/4" air lines instead of the 3/8" just because airing up feels a bit jarring at first, its not as smooth or fluent as it should be. But that's just a minor complaint
@M3PQuicksilver
@M3PQuicksilver Жыл бұрын
Opinions don’t matter when it comes to suspension facts do. Air ride is not meant for sports cars at all. Specially if you are going to track your car. Spring response compared to air bags are not the same. Springs respond to compression much faster compared to a air bags. You will never see any race car run on air bags. Bags are meant for cruisers, low rides or someone that wants to have the adjustability of the ride hight. As far as pricing goes actually Coilovers can be more expensive depending on what company you choose to go with. Also depends on the materials used to create a Coilover. Like JRZs, Penske or Motons can cost over $15,000- $30,000 depending on the level of motor sport. Even some street setups can run over $10,000 for a proper set. If you run air bags on a proper sports car, you are running the suspension setup and handling or the car.
@f3irty278
@f3irty278 Жыл бұрын
That’s a jump - he’s talking about for a daily driven car/sports car. Yes. A dedicated track car would not use air, although apparently some people do.
@M3PQuicksilver
@M3PQuicksilver Жыл бұрын
@@f3irty278 Their is no manufacturer that has ever ran air bags on street driven sports cars. Cars like Lincoln, Lexus and other manufacturers run air bags on SUV or family sedans. Air Bags do not have the capability to respond or react to bumps like a spring loaded suspension does. That was my point and I am talking about street and race cars. People running air bags on there cars I don’t care about that, but to make comparisons and state opinions in regards coilovers and air bags that are not true and I have been in motorsports, built cars for over 20 years so I do know a lot regarding suspension.
@mikepeace6694
@mikepeace6694 Жыл бұрын
Apparently you know nothing about bags
@M3PQuicksilver
@M3PQuicksilver Жыл бұрын
@@mikepeace6694 lol sure bud. Apparently you know nothing about suspension.
@mikepeace6694
@mikepeace6694 Жыл бұрын
@@M3PQuicksilver know more than you do and it shows
@JohnnyLehti
@JohnnyLehti Жыл бұрын
Intresting. Personally i wonder why not all race cars runs air suspension if it's faster on the track. I run coilovers on all my cars and they are not extremely bumpy. I would say that if they are extremely bumpy they are not set up correctly.
@cjbaldwin256
@cjbaldwin256 Жыл бұрын
thank god this was said. all i could think to myself is "if your coilovers are bouncy they aren't even close to being set up correctly"
@nicholastoo858
@nicholastoo858 Жыл бұрын
Weight, reliability, complexity
@blankslate1199
@blankslate1199 4 ай бұрын
Airlift has had a racing league since the 70s with cars that are all on airlift suspension
@TBone-c6f
@TBone-c6f 7 күн бұрын
The only times springs win is if you are offroad…. Even then you are gonna need high wuality coilovers to touch air bags. I am a DH mountain biker and i run EXT springs just for that added feel and speed in the trails. Airbags on a car are king on the roads if you ask me 🤷🏿‍♂️
@duska3529
@duska3529 14 күн бұрын
stupid question, can you help me. I want air suspension for my suv, but I want to make it in most simple way, I dont want compressor, wires and some hoses there, is possible to have air bags that can be filled/compresed with air only from outside compresor in similar way like tires for example? Just add hose and add/reduce air/ adjust ride height few times a week for my needs. Thanks for answer.
@mikereardon
@mikereardon 2 ай бұрын
Sweet setup. I wanna put bags on my maxima so bad.
@mikejames7825
@mikejames7825 Ай бұрын
What brand would you recommend that makes coilovers for Kia Telluride?
@gdotone1
@gdotone1 8 ай бұрын
I looking for a suspension where I don't feel the road at all. just like sitting in the car when it not moving, smooth. soft recoveries
@mr.banana5627
@mr.banana5627 8 ай бұрын
Bose (the speaker brand) did something with magnets, the car is practically floating. If you search Bose suspension you'll find it. I think they gave up on the project tho...
@solix9233
@solix9233 2 ай бұрын
Look for something like an executive package on air lift suspension, I know on ecs tuning for my mini cooper, it’s 5k but the air ride has sensors that auto level the car so when you hit a bump it will adjust accordingly and smooth it out significantly, that’s what your after is an air ride that has auto leveling
@derekrawlins2400
@derekrawlins2400 4 ай бұрын
I am seriously considering purchasing a quality air bag suspension kit for my 2017 Mini Cooper f56 hardtop. My only hesitation is that in some areas, we have really rough roads with many potholes, and I'm currently having a very rough ride over them. This is despite having a set of quality, brand-name coilovers on my car. My question is, would the air suspension hold up to the very rough roads for a daily driver?
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 4 ай бұрын
Roads here in Oklahoma are not the greatest. Matt (owner) beat on his BMW 335i on air as a daily for 5 years without issues before it turned into full toy.
@derekrawlins2400
@derekrawlins2400 4 ай бұрын
@@speedhaus405 Thanks for your response.
@kEEPITMOVIN408
@kEEPITMOVIN408 6 ай бұрын
Bags for the win 🥇
@HasanBBoyBronx
@HasanBBoyBronx Ай бұрын
thanks for insight
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 Ай бұрын
anytime!
@Eli-9
@Eli-9 Жыл бұрын
Common sense would tell you that when it comes to sports cars there is no way bags can out perform coils. Bags (long term) cannot handle the abuse coils can.
@T0MMY561
@T0MMY561 Жыл бұрын
Mercedes AMG GT uses bags.
@2jzge
@2jzge Жыл бұрын
Funny considering all truck have bags but they can’t handle abuse?
@Eli-9
@Eli-9 Жыл бұрын
@@2jzge the subject is air bags on sports cars. Tracking, racing, hard cornering, drifting ect. I doubt you do that in your truck while hauling your cute horse trailer.
@JPTinioMedia
@JPTinioMedia Жыл бұрын
@@Eli-9 He's referring to semi trucks which carries more than 40,000lbs of weight..
@ghosttownbmw
@ghosttownbmw 2 ай бұрын
How do they perform in negative degree weather? Thanks!
@racingislife7916
@racingislife7916 Ай бұрын
I believe you need to add some kind of anti freeze coolant into the air lines to prevent them from freezing
@LP-qg7kc
@LP-qg7kc 10 ай бұрын
Which brand is good air lift performance and UAS air suspension? What’s the difference can you let me know . I wanna order ? But I am confused to order ?
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 10 ай бұрын
Ultimately what car are you after? We are big advocates for Airlift Performance. Love the development they put into their products, customer service and warranty has always been great over the years. We can help you order. Send us a email at speedhausok@gmail.com
@dynasty_c63amg59
@dynasty_c63amg59 9 ай бұрын
My bag keeps coming loose and airline is wrapping around the bag tried tightening the nut at the bottom but loose again only has 1 nut lock but on my BC coilovers it has to lock nuts to tighten it🤷🏻‍♂️
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 9 ай бұрын
What are you using to tighten the locking collar? Our recommendation is a punch and hammer for final lock to keep it from twisting
@romeodogg
@romeodogg Жыл бұрын
What if you want to tow a trailer..? I have a VW Passat estate and thinking about air ride. But i still want to be able to tow my golf to the track
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 Жыл бұрын
As long as everything is setup properly towing can be done on air. I’ve seen it many times including Dually trucks pulling a loaded wedge all while being a inch off the ground.
@romeodogg
@romeodogg Жыл бұрын
@@speedhaus405 That is f***ing awesome!! Thank you
@chrisbing841
@chrisbing841 2 ай бұрын
What would be a good setup cor 18 tlx .daily .?
@Qweasd551
@Qweasd551 12 күн бұрын
What did you end up doing I have a 18 tlx I wanna decide as well
@LP-qg7kc
@LP-qg7kc 10 ай бұрын
Do you guys work in Teslas ? How is the ride for teslas drive for model 3 performance and y ?
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 10 ай бұрын
We’ve lowered and bagged a few. Made a big difference on the model 3. Haven’t done a model Y yet in regards to air suspension.
@LP-qg7kc
@LP-qg7kc 10 ай бұрын
I have both model 3 performance and model y performance . Does it have any issue when we close the doors and lock the car . The battery will running all the time to the compressor and any code errors will come once I close the door .
@LP-qg7kc
@LP-qg7kc 10 ай бұрын
@@speedhaus405 how is the ride and comfort with air suspension compare to coilovers from the factory one ?
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 10 ай бұрын
@@LP-qg7kc tremendously better in our opinion.
@ToddtheLoneDroner
@ToddtheLoneDroner 6 ай бұрын
Yes? Air ride number one or somebody else comparable
@imbored3581
@imbored3581 4 ай бұрын
1:50 lmaooo
@rallyk-5
@rallyk-5 Жыл бұрын
How good are coil overs for everyday driving?
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 Жыл бұрын
They’re great IF you buy good ones.
@vcrazy_diamond
@vcrazy_diamond Жыл бұрын
Get Air Lift if you wanna daily. Avoid brands like Air Tekk because I heard they ride terrible
@Brandonr757sGaming
@Brandonr757sGaming 11 ай бұрын
​@@vcrazy_diamonddon't spread misinformation. Airtekk makes good struts.
@blkeclipsel2400
@blkeclipsel2400 4 ай бұрын
ItsKev777 like he said they are great if you get good ones but it diminishes your driving experience if they are set too low. Any person who has driven low knows the cons. Pulling in drive ways or clearing speed bumps at angles. Damaging your underbody or front lip. Scraping your exhaust. Some shrug that kind of thing off but why subject yourself to driving like that when there are alternatives? Like another commentor said, go with airlift suspension if you're daily driving and want to still enjoy the occasional spirited driving. You drive low on familiar streets, ride stock height on trips, lift higher than stock to clear any steep incline and slam lower than any static vehicle out there when stationary.
@blkeclipsel2400
@blkeclipsel2400 4 ай бұрын
​@@vcrazy_diamondI've never driven on airtekk so I won't condemn them but I too have heard bad things about them. Your advice rings true though. Avoid cheap new entry-level air suspension and never buy used.
@vevotmg9684
@vevotmg9684 6 ай бұрын
Every one I know that has air ride and every car I owned with air ride the system all ways fails and it always the bag is no good
@jmpaull06
@jmpaull06 10 ай бұрын
Here is the video Matt reference about Air vs Coilovers at the track kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZW0mIdrnJ1nl8k
@Corbots80
@Corbots80 4 ай бұрын
Air ride - impresses teenagers. Coil overs - for anyone that cares about performance
@cheddarballs864
@cheddarballs864 5 ай бұрын
Coilovers for race tracks. Air for crusing and show.
@Crypt0Khan
@Crypt0Khan Жыл бұрын
Do you think switching to bags would slow down my lap times significantly? I’ve never driven on air suspension so I have nothing to compare to. Cheers. (F82 m4)
@speedhaus405
@speedhaus405 Жыл бұрын
For your application I’d stick with traditional coilovers! Cheers!
@Corbots80
@Corbots80 4 ай бұрын
Of course it will decrease your performance.
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