Col. Lawrence Wilkerson on US China Relations: We Are Creating Our Own Worst Nightmare

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President Joe Biden met with President Vladimir Putin of Russia in Geneva on June 16. US-Russia “disarmament discussions have been pushed to the back burner. Instead, treaty compliance disputes have dominated bilateral engagements. Meanwhile, each side is rushing to replace and upgrade its bloated nuclear arsenal,” writes Daryl Kimball in Arms Control Today.
Meanwhile, the U.S. is intensifying technological and economic competition with China and using US-China military tension to justify an increased Pentagon budget. Congress is preparing to pass Sen. Robert Menendez’s Strategic Competition Act of 2021 (S.1169), which constitutes a de facto declaration of a New Cold War with the People’s Republic of China. It would codify a comprehensive, and systematic strategic competition with China as the organizing principle for U.S. domestic, foreign, and defense policies, and possibly for other nations as well.
For analysis of these developments, we were joined by Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. He was interviewed by MAPA’s assistant director, Brian Garvey.
Col. Lawrence Wilkerson is a distinguished professor of government and public policy at the College of William and Mary and was Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell from 2002 to 2005. He was the Keynote Speaker at Massachusetts Peace Action’s annual meeting in March 2019. Wilkerson is a critic of the US invasion of Iraq, the ongoing War on Terror now in its 18th year and the turn to a new nuclear arms race. He asserts the U.S. is not a democracy but a war state that forces its will on the global community, and in 2020 worked on bipartisan projects to prepare for the possibility that a defeated Donald Trump would refuse to leave office.
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[@brianlee6260]

Oh Thank God, America still has some intelligent people like Col. who undersand this changing world.

[@acac4236]

Hubris is the right word to describe the US political culture. Not being the world number one is not tolerable. Poking the other 2 major nuclear powers is extremely dangerous. For the sake of humanity, I like to see China and Russia come to a mutual Security and defense agreement as a deterrent to the recklessness of the US foreign policy.

[@elainelee2491]

How US is threatening China to turn Taiwan back into nuke-armed military base kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4TGqI2Vmruho9k

[@Amadeus8484]

I think they already have given their push for bilateralism in general and dropping the US dollar in particular.

[@alexsimpson79]

People need to hear Wilkinson from every channel in America! We need to stop insanity!

[@joyduncan9434]

Is Col.Wilkerson ever on CNN, MSNBC Fox or the Sunday Morning political shows?? I only see him on The Grayzone? Push Back, this program or RT.

[@alexsimpson79]

@@joyduncan9434 . Media is in cahoots with darkest powers in US. 5eyes propaganda.but I guess you know this, without me telling you. Thanks for reply.

[@notapplicableme]

"Col. Lawrence Wilkerson on US China Relations: We Are Creating Our Own Worst Nightmare." That's what we do. That's what we have always done. Examples: Cold war, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.

[@wilsonluytan212]

This mistake should it happen will be your last!!

[@sayaandyangsaya2756]

China: Be a friend? US government: I want to be your boss, can we?

[@inkbold8511]

Lol that's just about everting US does in dictating to rest of the world.

[@daokedao123]

My respects to Col. Wilkerson! All empires fell eventually. USA as an empire, can not solve her own problems internally, but she turn to outside to find solutions. All dead empires had tried that way, but failed...

[@AbelMalcolm]

These are the real winners of the hyped up "war on terror"? Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, Raytheon, etc.

[@macrosense]

they have already seen what we can accomplish in poor small countries like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Vietnam and perhaps even Cambodia. we freely broadcast problems with our cities, crime, school, healthcare, and regional destitution. we caused the 2007-2008 financial collapse. later, we elected a tv gameshow host president. I do not think China has anything to fear.

[@bruceadam5632]

I agree with almost everything except the last sentence 'I do not think China has anything to fear'. You see the last two presidents of the US of A are a couple of jokers, they have NO idea of the REAL world and as such do not know about the consequences of a real war let alone a nuclear war. As it is, I don't think it matters who is in the White House, it is the Military-Industrial Complex that runs the country.

[@macrosense]

@@bruceadam5632 i suppose china can fear a nuclear war. but if that happens we all die. from a strategic perspective, we are simply becoming less economically relevant in that region. look at the trade figures. maintaining a pretense of military power becomes increasingly expensive, and ultimately decreases our ability to remain economically relevant there and economically potent at home.

[@Amadeus8484]

There is a reason the world is dropping the dollar. America has long worn out its welcome.

[@elmohead]

USA is trying to convince the world that it's yoghurt when, in reality, it's just expired milk.

[@parklilys3108]

This is real reason of tense relationship with China: we try to find China as an enemy and blame China for all our own faults. If you treat China as an enemy, it will become your energy.

[@demonridera]

When peace loses value and truth is trifled with, times are immensely dangerous

[@marlbankian]

Excellent food for thought

[@Tony882008]

It’s difficult to negotiate with the US government because each department has different agenda and all are basically threatening China all the time with nil negotiation skill. Even all things are settled, China has to deal with another new US government when US president changes because each president will try to flex his/her muscle to act tough and to outdo the previous president or undo what the previous government did and had done.

[@johnnytiger7580]

That Co. is an intelligent man. Where are more men lik him in US?

[@I999-g2s]

(The others like him) are bought and sold by the real rulers of America - big money interest.

[@seanh.2559]

All dead!

[@inkbold8511]

It ended with JFK, the rest are all crazy war hawks one after another.

[@zongliangwu7461]

Zong Liang Wu 0 seconds ago The only crime that the chinese committed is they work hard to get a better life. Why cannot US just have a fair and friendly competition that will benefit both?

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

Because they are losing. If they could compete and win, they would. They can't. So they don't.

[@reallife7235]

Nothing like a class A liar to leave a post like that.

[@Typhoon911]

4:55 is the reason our world is in chaos.

[@yurigansmith]

Also Scott Ritter said this in an interview (on 'Geopolitics & Empire') that the US is maybe not capable anymore to win a war by conventional means, against Russia & China, or even against one of them alone. And then... it will be the nuclear option, inevitably.

[@zaffazad4040]

Col. Wilkerson, your candid opinion is very thought-provoking and real in nature and context. War with China must be off the table, no way the US or China can win, it will not only be MAD for the two but for the rest of the world. I think wise people need to play their role in reining in the lobbyists for arms manufacturers and corrupt contractors. No way the US can take the loss against China in the Taiwan or South China Sea, if the US is ready to sacrifice a couple of AIrcraft Carrier groups without achieving any military objective it can try to start a war with China. In the end, the negotiated settlement would be the only solution, no US Congressman or Senator would want a mushroom cloud rising in his neighbourhood. Then what to follow the track would lead to it? Sanity should prevail, the US, China and the other powers should work in collaboration to avoid climate catastrophe, improve trade, develop technology to fight disease and hunger among the less fortunate global citizens. Chinese don't seem to be asking for a conflict, they want stability and peace as you have identified correctly. God Bless America, God Bless American Politicians with wisdom and sanity to avoid an unimaginable catastrophe.

[@nsng1298]

General MacArthur warned JFK to avoid a land war in Asia. JFK, based on this warning of General MacArthur said, "Anyone wanting to commit ground troops to Asia, should have his head examined". MacArthur saw what happened in Korea when the poorly armed Chinese troops with no heavy weapons, tanks and air support drove the combined armed forces of the U.S. and the U.N. back to the south and fought to a stalemate. MacArthur was so cocky as to say, "We will be home by Christmas". He even said the U.S. should use the nuclear bombs on China. If JFK had not been assassinated, there might not had been a Vietnam war.

[@pc5826]

Maybe that's why JFK was assasinated?

[@antediluvianatheist5262]

@@pc5826 That and his generally progressive policies.

[@noelborbon6155]

PLA Armed Forces have the backings of the former Soviet Union in terms of hardware.

[@noelborbon6155]

Douglas Macarthur was fired by President Harry Truman after the Korean War though.

[@jonsnow8853]

Military complex payrolls must continue to roll…. They need an enemy, any enemy will do so they can continue to supply

[@pengfu8608]

This hugely valuable channel gets ten millions less subscrbers and views than cat videos ..... I am so lost at our shared human faith. Blow this up by linking with RT, CGTN, The Greyzone, The Duran, Democracy Now, The New Atlas, Glen Greenwald, Ron Paul, Edward Snowden SIMULTANEOUSLY! I am begging you guys! Also collab with all the famous China KZbinrs run by foreigners, such as Barrets, Jayoe Nation, Living in China...... Do collaborations on a weekly basis and blow up big stories to tell the truth. Do public speaking tours and virtual townhalls. We are so doomed already and destruction will move forward further if we don't act fast!

[@hpmoxie4660]

From day one, America has or shows very low threshold to use nukes. Truman delegated his military commanders to make the decision to drop the bombs. There were also several other occasions that nukes were considered against China before it developed its own and after it did but lacked capabilities to strike long distance.

[@ewalker1057]

American politicians know not to do anything to have war on American soil. The American people will no longer support their wars. Poking the Bear and Dragon will get there.

[@phil488pista9]

@@ewalker1057 Apparently they are poking at both! There's no way America can handle both of them.

[@elainelee2491]

Yeap, you're right. US had a base with nukes in Taiwan at one time. How US is threatening China to turn Taiwan back into nuke-armed military base kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4TGqI2Vmruho9k

[@thomasrogers9146]

This American is a great American patriot.

[@reallife7235]

This poster doesn't know what he's talking about.

[@loneranger4469]

Superbly articulate...Col Wilkerson.

[@wilsonluytan212]

If cog to war with another nuclear state , it will be the end of the world. Or as Mao once said “ The last human standing will be a Chinese”. This guy is a realist.

[@jimmcgettigan4826]

Chillingly prescient regarding our self assured hubris concerning the implosion of the planet. Our power brokers should be very, very careful what they deviously ask for because the consequences could be irreversible.

[@johnlane9743]

Col. W - thanks for the candor. And MPA - please correct your microphone issue - grateful.

[@robertcloutier4633]

I wonder if our oligarchs know how much a nuclear winter would hurt the economy ?....

[@elmohead]

Yes but for one split second, each of their share is worth trillions of dollars.

[@concertautist4474]

Laughter is one coping mechanism. A black sense of humour during these absurd times is something that can make one feel a bit better.

[@erazmuz]

..this aged well.

[@qake2021]

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[@hsiachongong104]

US want to maintain his hegemonic position in all aspect, such GDP, Technology development, military development ,finance etc. When Japan's GDP rose to 75% of US GDP, then it force japanese yuan to devalue, US also suppress japan semiconductor development, likewise it also suppress the France Alstom development, as for Russia, US doesn't allowed their nuclear power bigger than them, since the collapse of Soviet Union, till today it try all means to sanction on Russia, and try to further weaken and make it collapse further. As for China, it is very jealous china as economic power leader for most of the nations, like BRI, BRICKS etc, and find ways and mead to instigate and threaten those participating nations to withdraw. basically, USA it just a trouble maker for the world, just imagine, it is how nice that if the world can have 10 to 15years peaceful time, without wars and conflict, but on US side can they survive and sustain its economy growth without having wars in 5 years periods? Just imagine, if there are no wars in all nations, what will be the political situations and environment in Europe, US, will US and NATO be able to sustain their military power in the next few years? The US always wants to instigate and create trouble between India and China, the same thing happens to those nations that participate in BRI and BRICKs. In my opinion, the US is the troublemaker for world peace.

[@qake2021]

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[@michaelscott1060]

Well the US has a track record of going Nuclear

[@dontaskmewhy100]

Brezinski jumping up from his coffin.

[@johnniewalker7628]

IF India and Pakistan or China go to war, chances are India will need to dance with both. IF NATO goes to war either Russia or China, will the other join the fight? Thats the question I would have asked.

[@hujintao6862]

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson seens to be a good friend of us and the Party, hope he runs for President. If he is in power we can take Taiwan without a struggle.

[@winkus8586]

Take?? It is belongs to china.

[@hujintao6862]

@@winkus8586 Belongs? What does that mean. Taiwan has it's own military, government, money, laws right now. We need people like Col. Wilkerson in charge to take Taiwan.

[@winkus8586]

@@hujintao6862 Well.. before the successful nuclear test by the mainland, taiwan were keep claiming to be the real official government of the entire china. A loser retreated to an island will never become a winner

[@hujintao6862]

@@winkus8586 History has many losers and winners, the winners has always turned out as losers sooner or later. But our dear Ccp is in danger now. We must reinforce it before we can start another war, remember what happened in Vietnam.

[@winkus8586]

@@hujintao6862 Yeah i remember you lose in vietnam and korea when china were so poor.

[@kadic6305]

Like he really talked to him 😬please stop pushing an empty wheelbarrow up somebody’s a..

[@heehong127]

The problem is Mr. Xi became the emperor with Chinese CCP structure, which is not acceptable.

[@samliew6610]

Who is anyone to say it's or it's not acceptable. Why does anyone has to bother about other country's system? Who are we to judge?

[@leetan3306]

What’s the point of democracy ( no such thing as western democracy - controlled by neocons puppeteers) when 100m out of 320m are living from pay check to check in US. The Chinese government has lifted 800m Chinese out of abject poverty. Is this not great? Or it is sour grapes for you?

[@heehong127]

@@samliew6610 History will judge.

[@heehong127]

@@leetan3306 History will judge.

[@kaliskunkog2255]

History will judge....I'm sure you don't know much history about the European empire.