Cold Case End - S4E04 - Baby Blues

Cold Case End - S4E04 - Baby Blues (Journey - Open Arms)
Revised version.

[@Milgrove]

I heard that the ending for this episode was edited a bit. They were going to show the baby's ghost, but the test audience found it too sad.

[@coolchrisable]

you know how sad a cold case episode has to be for TO SAD

[@Barber747]

Well that's quite interesting

[@bhind45]

They only do test audiences for movies though.

[@ddivincenzo1194]

@@bhind45 No, they do them for TV show pilots as well. I was part of one. They were 4 1/2 hr sitcoms plus commercials. I only recollect one and none were picked up.

[@soniaclarkstewart]

@@bhind45 Years ago, I used to get tapes to review for pilots. Some were actually worse than some of the stuff they put on.

[@nami345]

You know this is one of the most depressing episodes. What really tugs are your hearstrings though is the older brother, all those years he thought he had killed his baby sister so he refused to hold his own little girl for fear he would kill her. Then here at the end he's finally able to hold his own baby because he knows he didn't kill his sister, his mother was sick and that was the reason Iris died. He was free to love and dote on his baby and you can clearly see how happy he is to hold her.

[@JoybuzzerX]

I'm just curious why you said his mother was sick, instead of saying, "It was actually his mother who killed his sister." True, post partum depression wasn't known back then, but depression is never an excuse for letting such a thing happen to begin with. Which, is of course, why the cops take her away, but I wouldn't have felt sorry for her, especially considering she let her son believe he did it.

[@heyitsmira17]

@@JoybuzzerX psychosis*, not depression

[@Unknown-bq9id]

Given that Molly was suffering from postpartum psychosis, which was not understood as well in 1982 as it is today, it's hard to completely hate her for killing Iris. What she can be hated for is letting her ex-husband and son think the son did it...

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

It always gives me goosebumps how gentle he is with her! This bloody show haha it was a masterpiece!

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

@@JoybuzzerXwe all knew what they meant…it’s not that deep.

[@SamTeLoCuenta]

They sure pick the right song for every episode. And I just love Steve Perry.

[@dr4hearts91]

It's hard to believe this show has been off the air so many years...

[@Barber747]

I heard they were bringing it back sometime next year 2025. I certainly hope they do...

[@Jck9102]

This was one of the saddest episodes of Cold Case of the entire series.

[@YTfancol]

One of my favorite series . I love the songs they chose for each episode.

[@fgwilli76]

Brilliant yep

[@halleyangel1706]

I think Cold Case always had very nice endings. It was always shown the case being solved but also a good ending for those that died. (Spiritually speaking if you die tragically the spirit is more likely to stay.) So I also felt a sense of relieve when the spirits of those departed were finally able to rest in peace with the truth known.

[@suzycreamcheesez4371]

relief GN

[@michelleprieur1]

I'm glad that the stigma surrounding post partum depression and psychosis is being lifted. Tragedies such as Andrea Yates and others can be avoided if mothers are treated and encouraged to get help.

[@sandersgeorges]

What was Casey Anthony's excuse

[@ivannamanzur1234]

They need prison. Murder is a murder

[@clarkmacgowan5114]

​@@sandersgeorgeswhat does Casey Anthony have to do with anything? We're talking about postpartum psychosis, Casey Anthony didn't suffer from any disease.

[@zechariahcameron3645]

​@@clarkmacgowan5114some lawyers might defend otherwise

[@LucianaSilva-f7e]

Epsodio muito sensivel.trilha sonora belissima!😢😢😢😢

[@BrownBrother27]

Actually, the mother (also the murderer of her infant daughter) had postpartum psychosis, not postpartum depression. Lilly mentions this when confronting Iris's mother. There are differences between postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis.

[@animeknight8958]

What the MAJOR difference

[@joygillingham3841]

All of the episodes on Cold Case were sad, but this was especially touching for me, as I was born premature the year Iris would have been five years old if she would have lived.

[@Joy6168]

All of the Cold Case episodes are sad, but this is especially heart-wrenching.

[@TheGreatLegend007]

432mag what happen

[@loribowen6063]

I don't normally cry at movies or shows but this one made me cry when it aired.

[@bluebrain7009]

​@@TheGreatLegend007 *SPOILERS AHEAD* The mother attempted to let her baby and herself die in a snowstorm outside while under postpartum psychosis. She came to her senses later only to find her baby perished due to being exposed to the cold weather.

[@dhenderson1810]

This is the saddest "Cold Case" ever. Every member of the family is affected. The father feels guilt, the son feels guilt, and ultimately, the mother did too. Their family was fractured, but at the end , they were together at the baby's grave.

[@arbiterskiss6692]

This was the first episode I saw, and I watched only the final five minutes. Hell of a way to get into a show, but it is how I got here.

[@marcelmiller7551]

Yes sad but what about the young man lynched during the I Have a Dream speech

[@zechariahcameron3645]

I wish that Valens let her stay with her family.

[@TheRosetube]

This episode makes me cry..... One of the best this show..... :(

[@ReveiwKing999]

It begins with a heart-wrenching song ("Somebody's Baby") and ends with a heart-wrenching song ("Open Arms")

É lindo ver a sensibilidade dos atores,uma linda e triste história e uma canção belíssima....Amo esse seriado

[@ricardofernandes3292]

Quem canta essa música????

@@ricardofernandes3292 journey

[@jiulliasilva773]

​@@ricardofernandes3292Journey. Chama "Open Arms".

[@Maurjen]

one of the few episodes that made me cry

[@ladydruyear]

Forever Blue is the one episode that makes me cry.

[@kenb2671]

Episodes dealing with kids and I’m done.

[@ChristineTheHippie]

Postpartum psychosis is much more severe. That's what causes hallucinations and also sometimes causes mothers to harm their children (in rare cases),

[@Thornus_______]

This hit me harder than others because I remember the time period so well I was about 7 in 1981

[@TTFreakzan]

i watched this episode once and have never been able to watch again...

[@marianasaroa4130]

Sinto falta de Cold Case! Série do caraiooo

[@lu-yl6pi]

Nem fala

[@lauradossantoslima2068]

Está sendo transmitida todas as quintas-feiras às 21:10 no canal a&e! 🙏❤️

[@KingBarish007]

I cried at this.

[@Rumisonqqo]

Damn it.. this one really made me cry the whole night since my brother has a little boy and a girl coming.

[@looperlindsey]

One of the reasons that I watch Cold Case is for the classic rock songs they use.

[@peterpyle9809]

One of the best shows ever I love the ending when Lillie is walking with the culprit and some killer music is playing.i can't find it on t v any more.

[@cintiadasilva353]

this song is so beatiful

[@The99forever]

yeah i wanted to see the baby ghost too. baby died from exposure in this case. mother intended to kill herself too but she was bigger and could stand the cold for longer. SIDS is a term that doctors use when they can't find a cause for a baby's sudden death. Iris was no longer a SIDS case. She died of exposure.

[@81ODISEO]

i cry with this episode ..... :(

[@mac17601]

This is the perfect series I want to watch again every Halloween, usually SCARY MOVIES, STRANGE CREATURES, et. al., but this series gave the meaning of Mourning, Sadness, but finally a PEACE and RELIEF of mind now that those ghost of the victims finally gave their justice they've deserved. I kinda wish this series will be return after the pandemic 🙂🙏🙏

[@Salem-dj3xw]

Actually if you have ROKU, all the episodes are on HBO Max

[@fgwilli76]

Show is awesome. Powerful but simple theme. Music makes it

[@dmw1280]

My wife broke down crying watching this episode this is before we had children.

[@pacofortz9440]

Me and my wife cries while watching this...omg...

[@CarlosSanchez-vt5jz]

Cold Case the best, and the music the maximus

[@BaconNMegs]

I came here to read comments and see how this episode effected other people. I saw this when I was a kid when it aired and I remember being sooo sad and the scene of the mom in the snow with her baby has stuck with me all these years (now In my 30’s) and I have my own kids and I just can’t imagine that feeling of waking up and seeing what you did to your baby. Honestly this episode kinda traumatized me lol it makes me so sad just thinking about it not even needed to watch it

[@claudianara8658]

Adoro essa música.

[@allthemikemartinmoney8046]

nice song for this

[@TDTam11]

2:07 it always pissed me off how Scotty had to ruin that wonderful private family moment and take her away like she is a mass murderer. She accidentally killed her baby 24 years ago and you can’t give her a few minutes to mourn at the grave site with her loved ones?!? Bothers me!!

[@allthemikemartinmoney8046]

I liked this episode but that part was sad 😥😥 he could've give her some time it's not like she was going to run off somewhere.

[@ChristineTheHippie]

He was gentle about it. He approached her and you can tell he felt bad. Look at how he arrested other suspects.

[@TDTam11]

@@ChristineTheHippie he couldn’t wait til they were finished?? She is 50+ years old. Not like she is gonna start hurdling grave stones to a getaway car.

[@harvwittii4748]

Let’s remember this, she was suffering from a mental illness at the time. And let’s also remember at the time they didn’t have the knowledge about Postpartum depression and psychosis that can occur from that

[@jacindaellison3363]

How long will she serve time for this due to this condition?

[@ChristineTheHippie]

And the judgment shown by some comments are what stops women from getting help.

[@jacindaellison3363]

​@@ChristineTheHippie I feel so awful for the Mom! How long will she serve time for this despite her condition?

[@16lucylover]

Maybe this episode was somewhat inspired by the Nicole Lee Hattamar case she was a baby found in the snow in Holcombe Kansas in 1989 though unfortunately no one was ever arrested for her murder.

[@Rumisonqqo]

Investigator Miller notices a photo of a closed case of Iris, the six month old baby girl with wet hair in the photo which made her question the cause of death as sudden infant death syndrome. The married couple were brought in for questioning as the team investigates whether the baby girl might have died from drowning. Molly, the mother, was suffering from post-pardum depression. She decided to put Iris in the cold snow, where Iris obviously died.

[@syniethiahunter2932]

I like that show

[@cashaiesha]

I saw this the other day and hurt to watch it

[@deacoldecase]

chorei muito...

[@dorothyjordan4499]

This my jam

[@heatherstar9475]

Currently pregnant and this made me sob 😢

[@fabricioassismg5622]

Steve Perry it's a great singer on Journey!

[@charliseedwards422]

I felt so sad for the mother.

[@loquetoco]

the soundtrack of this episode is OPEN ARMS :)

[@LeslieToronto1971]

When the episode aired and they started playing "Open Arms" I was a goner. Does anyone have the entire episode from beginning to end? Do they have at least the scene which starts with the beginning of "Open Arms"? If you don't, I understand.

[@mary.gcarpenter1490]

Snapefan1971 DO you have a ROKU TV or know anyone who has one, if so they are streaming Cold Case, and it's free. Also Major Crimes . They have the whole series, but you can pick and choose if you don't want to watch them all. I'M watching them all again as its been so long since they canceled it , it's just like watching it for the first time.

[@gordonbagley7272]

I searched and found the box set of cold case this episode was particularly touching

[@AlfonsoDiazASJPII]

nice episode, I think I´m the only cold case ecuadorian fan

[@ivannamanzur1234]

I’m also.. this show is great

[@markeannacookcook5408]

Plus she was overprotected because iris was premature. She wanted to die with her daughter b/c like she said the world isn't a good or bad place plus that her motherly instinct to protect her child

[@jkcone43]

My Godness!!!!!!

[@kimberleygardner2293]

I was born 4 weeks early

[@LeslieToronto1971]

Once again I ask. Does anyone have the full episode? I thought I was the only one who tuned in to hear Classic Rock--esp '80s rock, especially JOURNEY!!!!

[@lulombardi2451]

www.dailymotion.com/video/x54di1k_cold-case-s04e04-baby-blues_fun

[@jean-jenny]

Lu Lombardi Thanks!

[@cashaiesha]

So sad the son was scared to hold his own baby. The mother suffered terribly

[@ivannamanzur1234]

Fuck the mother. She’s a murder.. not everyone is ready to be a mom or a dad.

[@charliseedwards422]

But l think there sould have been the ghost on what Iris would have look like when she was grown

[@georgessand1355]

so sad!

[@WillyM79]

my god this is a sad one

[@MayumiMayy]

so sad

[@ilyaly5526]

Although most of the shows of ‘Cold Case’ made me bawl, the one’s that featured the death of a child hit me harder.

[@musicloverb1]

I can't find this old show on Netflix or hulu

[@adrianarodrigues1874]

Saddest episode ever...:'(

[@DrGregoryHouseIT]

@mrnick09 She killed her infant daughter in 1982.

[@BrownBrother27]

@Sheri451 Amen! I made a plot for a potential episode of CC but it has gone to waste. I love Cold Case but damn ratings was the dagger to it being axed :-(

[@KathrynMorris14]

@Milgrove Aah. thats why we don't see Iris. When I saw it I tought: Eejh When we see Iris' ghost. But it's too sad....

[@thomasduya16]

1:18 THAT TV CHANNEL IS CHANNEL NINE AUSTRALIA

[@Julieveru2721]

11/10/2015 IM HERE

[@arflopo5854]

WHO IS THIS SONG I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT COMPLETE IF POSSIBLE, FACILITATE ME THE TITLE IF YOU KNOW IT PLEASE, THANK YOU

[@nekronangelos]

arturo flores Open Arms by Journey

[@PrincessofPower84]

I agree. Some murderers I shouldn't have sympathy for, but do (like the killers from Wishing and the River) and then you have killers like this one, the one in Detention and the one from The Goodbye Room that I should sympathize with...but don't. Also on a side note, I know he's not right for Lilly, but am I the only one that finds Ray to be so smoking hot?

[@JoybuzzerX]

She killed her baby because she was depressed. That's not something to be sympathized with. Sympathize that she suffered through depression maybe, but the acts done because of it, no.

[@unkownuser20]

Brand X She didn’t have depression it was psychosis.It Involves depressing but hallucinations comes with it.Therefore we should have sympathy.

[@itsmequeenbee235]

That Detention episode killer wasn't bad. He accidentally pushed Trevor and wanted to die instead but Trevor saved him.

[@ChristineTheHippie]

@@JoybuzzerX Postponed psychosis is a mental illness. People who suffer from mental illness need empathy and compassion.

[@JoybuzzerX]

@@ChristineTheHippie She hid it, knowing what she did, that wasn't mental illness, that was deliberate. Also, psychosis is a mental illness, no one goes we need to show them sympathy.

[@ricardofernandes3292]

Alguém sabe me dizer quem canta essa música???

[@lovelessnights]

who's that actor that played the grown up kid?. I've seen him in CSI: Miami too.

[@icebluesnowflake861]

Alejandra Pérez Mark Famiglietti. He also starred in Bones, CSI, Without a Trace, CSI: NY, and many other shows.

[@juliaschafer6787]

Why must Baby Iris have to die? She was too young, too cute. Her life was too short. She doesn't deserve that😢😭

[@toddsmitts]

@BrownBrother27 I've made a few fan-made episodes myself. What was your plot?

[@EifertD]

Why doesn't You Tube have full episoodes of Cold Case? All I can find are excerpts.

[@TheOneAndOnlyTT72]

I agree they really need to put full esopides ,, or please put the show back on tv.

[@itsmequeenbee235]

@@TheOneAndOnlyTT72 It's on Start Tv tv channel

[@MissSallyB1]

music copyrights is a tricksy mistress

[@toddsmitts]

@BrownBrother27 So what was the plot?

[@thomasduya16]

Channel: Nine Network Australia Rating: M (For Mature Audiences Only)

[@ChristineTheHippie]

ok, sorry for misunderstanding. Yeah, ok you're right in that case, she was not thinking clearly at all. You can see Lilly and the team did have sympathy for her

[@harveywittii9323]

Yes she was sick

[@mrnick09]

why was that lady going to jail though

[@aliciamarie2509]

bc she killed her baby

[@mrnick09]

@@aliciamarie2509 girl this was 10 years ago lmao

[@itsmequeenbee235]

yall hilarious

[@BrownBrother27]

@toddsmitts I'll private message my main plot. I failed to make a subplot to go with it

[@blairlipscomb7378]

Do you still have it? I would like to read it?

[@claudiace5995]

Achei tão triste episódio.

[@ChristineTheHippie]

so how did the baby really die?

[@Salem-dj3xw]

The mother held the baby in her arms as she took them outside in the snowstorm for hours.

[@frankedward6510]

i feel like the mother would not get that much jail time for this.

[@tazzyando8304]

crazy woman

[@toureyounouss7897]

who is victim's name

[@ChristineTheHippie]

The mother had post partum depression, but during the 1980s it probably wasn't much known. What do you mean by a damaged brain? That's being too harsh

[@sidneyatkins6678]

Air Supply

[@larssullivanfan2496]

This one is 'Open Arms' by Journey.

[@jonainwood]

I have no sympathy for this murderer.

[@kathrynorozco5416]

Then you clearly don’t understand mental illness and what it can lead people to do without really their control