Cold Steel Hudson Bay Tomahawk Review, Initial Impressions.

This is an in filed Review of the Cold Steel Hudson Bay Tomahawk. I give my initial impressions of The latest offering from Cold Steel in their tomahawk line. This is not an in depth review, that will come later. I have had many people ask me what I thought of the new hawk and I have had it out on a few outings so I decided to give my thoughts.
The Short? I like it a lot. I will spend more time with it this season and see if my thoughts change. For now I am thinking this is my new favorite tomahawk from Cold Steel. Weight and function are spot on with the Pipe Hawk, but it has more of a beard for more utility and it also has a larger hammer face for better usability. The weight is nearly identical to the Pipe Hawk at 16.5 oz. There is also more contact between the head and handle for a more secure fitment.
The only down side I see is that the blade is very thin and has no swell in the cheek area. This will make if perform poorly at splitting larger rounds of firewood. Another minor thing is the price will be a little high as it is a new model and normally that tends to last a few months to a year.
I am no longer making kydex items to sell.

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

UPDATE ON SHEATHS: I am no longer making kydex sheaths for sale.

[@byn1975]

ZEUKI1 do you have one for this model hawk?

[@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival]

Also wanting to know if you have any sheaths for the Cold Steel Hudson Bay Tomahawk? Also how do we find out how much shipping will be if it is not specified?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

@@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival I am out of the Hudson Hawks at the moment and am holding off on making more until I get feedback on how they are fitting. These hawks are finish ground from the factory on the top and bottom and that changes the overall dimensions. This is a problem for sheath building having a bunch of different sized axes out there. Once I get some feedback from people on how the sheaths are fitting I will decide if I can keep making more.... I don't want to send stuff out that is not working for people. For the shipping question, if you are International I can not ship to you. Ebay Has Deemed my product "restricted" It is a long story and I am not happy about it. Until I start my own website there is nothing much I can do. I spent 2 weeks going back and forth on the phone and emailing those jokers asking why and it is like talking to a brick fence. At this point in time unfortunately I do not have the finances or time to invest in a website or the associated intellectual property rights. I do apologize... for a time I was able to sell internationally but that was a few months ago.

[@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival]

@@Scablands_Scavenger All good mate, thanks for the reply.

[@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival]

@@Scablands_Scavenger Have you considered Amazon?

[@jjdogbutte]

Great to see your videos again...no one else does as good a job reviewing hawks! I’ve made a few purchases based on your reviews.

[@c.j.parkin8096]

My thoughts exactly.

[@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE]

This is definitely on the list of stuff I wanna buy. I will probably get it this summer 👍

[@HalfPaceOutdoors]

I do this stuff with a spinal cord injury so I'm considering this tomahawk. Good review!

[@brianmccann666]

Looks great. I may need to buy it. I like the hammer size. Low profile yet large surface.

[@redsorgum]

Definitely a nice profile. I’m with you on the folder/tomahawk combo. I find myself using my folding knives a lot more, including traditional slip joint knives. Having a hammer pull is a plus. I forgot how to buy one of your sheaths for my frontier hawk.

[@larryterry7874]

I have the spike hawk . a fantastic axe wish it was a bit heavier. .the spike is Amazing for carrying large pieces of wood. Climbing steep hills. Turning over stones logs and is a amazing tool

[@TheAnonymousSword]

I have finally come around to regrinding mine to a very steep and thin grind wirh just 20dps microbevels and it has become a wood chopping beast. Outperforms gransfors small forest axe at cross grain cutting because the gransfors has much thicker cheeks. All in all a nice light trekking tool.

[@robertbalasko7243]

I like your videos!, all you wanted to know about a hawk or axe is there! All the best for your business! Regards from Hungary!

[@knifedrago]

Rock and roll man thanks...mine, is on the way to me.

[@longrider42]

Just a quick word, from some one who's learning about how sharp something needs to be, edge wise. If your hawk is sticking, its "Over Sharpened" Yeah, I know a difficult concept to grasp. I've tweaked the edge on mine to 22 degree's, still cuts great, and less sticking.

[@henryhill6126]

Yes. I need this to live a happy and fulfilling life.

[@craftybynature3760]

Thanks man .. I have to get one now..

[@lennaertsih7434]

Nice video! Perhaps it's fun to do a comparison between the Hudson Bay Hawk and the Pipe Hawk somewere in the future.

[@byn1975]

Thank you for the video. Can you make a comparison to Pipe Hawk? Would be really interesting to see side by side comparison given that it is your new favorite hawk and it has the same weight as pipe hawk.

[@trollforge]

I may need that!

[@duncansq47]

Deffinilty buying one.

[@johnfessenden3771]

Nice work out fir the Hudson Bay hawk!

[@Vikingwpg]

I have a suggestion for a future review: The best mouse hawk! Do some reviews on some mouse hawks. I would enjoy that.

[@vladimirkovacevic1656]

awesome tomahawk

[@johnmutton799]

I ground a slight curve on the beard on mine and it looks wicked. Good camp axe!

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Sounds awesome! I have ground a few of the trail hawks like that... I may have to try that with one of my Hudsons!

[@c.r.5106]

Can't wait for the follow up review! 2 questions... 1) How does it compare to your H&B Forge tomahawk? 2) What anorak are you wearing in this video? Thanks!

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

It sets right in between my medium camp hawk and the GOS hawk in size. It has a thinner blade, and is much cheaper. I would not replace one for the other, H&B are like a sit down steak dinner and the Cold Steel is fast food. Both make you not hungry but one costs more and might be a better overall experience ha ha. The anorak is a no-name non branded item I picked up on line, I have not seen them since and the only tag I can find is a small US flag inside. Its a bummer because I was going to order another in green! ... here is one that may be the same but from another seller :www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-men039s-ocp-camo-anorak-jacket-new?a=1869236&pm2d=CSE-SPG-15-PLA&PLA&Google&CI&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhLCxiZ_m5wIVAcZkCh2SJQo5EAQYAyABEgI1cvD_BwE

[@c.r.5106]

@@Scablands_Scavenger Thank you! I've been wanting an H&B medium camp hawk for a long time now, your review of it is what made me want it so badly.

[@rogergagne1026]

Thanks for all the awesome content over the years I personally enjoy these types of activitys . how can I purchase a sheath for my hawk

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Thank you for watching! I have just posted my Ebay seller page link in the video description box towards the bottom. I am low on stock at the moment but if you want something Specific/custom ( in the models and colors I have in available) I have a "made to order" option you can purchase. Otherwise I normally make small batches of different models every other week or so !

[@MarkYoungBushcraft]

Interesting hawk. Look capable of most tasks. Just checked, $75.00 on Amazon Canada. Must see if I can find it cheaper. Thanks for sharing

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Ooof that is a bit high! I have noticed the average price on the CS hawks has been very high lately. Last summer I was able to find the trail hawk and riflemans hawk for around 20$. Hopefully things will level out in time. Thanks for stopping by !!

[@gentlecaringviolence]

Great video man, you're the first one to cover this badass hawk. How does it stack up with the rifleman hawk in terms of weight and cutting edge?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

The Rifleman weighs about a half pound more than the Hudson and has a slightly thicker and longer bit. Both have similar size cutting edges, 3.5 and 3 3/4". I have yet to compare them side by side in use but from what I have used of them, for my purposes the Rifleman would be my pick for heavy wood processing and winter or cold camping situations where I would be processing more wood. The Hudson is more of a light weight option for me when using a stick stove or warmer weather when I dont want or need a larger fire, more of a "bushcraft" tool for doing projects etc, or running light. Sorry for the late reply I dont get all notifications of comments.

[@MrFrowijn]

@@Scablands_Scavenger Thanks, I was doubting between the two of them. I think I will go for the Hudson bay one.

[@CampfireKodiak]

Looks like a nice tool!

[@greekveteran2715]

Thin axe heads slice better but always stick. The best profile for an axe, is the same as for knives, which a slight full convex bevel. That's the only real issue with convex bevels, they mustn't be over-convexed wich is a known issue to people with not much experience. Cold Steels 1055 mahetes and axes, are some of the best budget tools out there. Actually, if oyu fix their handle issues and properly reprofile them, you have a tool ,that is as robust as it get's and you also get pure proper function!

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Nicely designed hawk. about Taiwan, they've been giving China the finger... pretty much forever. I don't mind sending some support their way. I can buy this Hawk and I have several Council Tools Axes.

[@brianmccann666]

Taiwan makes good steel imho.

[@michealvega1373]

Taiwanese metal good metal

[@kongandbasses8732]

Buy a Chinese blade Get a blade made of Chinesium.

[@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival]

Cheers bro, looks like a great tomahawk. Ordered one last week, and it on the way. Can't wait to get my hands on it. Apart from doing work on the handle and removing the paint etc, the only mod I would like to do would be to add a hole for a bow drill spindle on each side of the hammer pole? If you would consider making a video of a mod adding in holes for a bow drill spindle like the H and B Forge medium camp hawk that would be awesome. And maybe a comparison of the H and B Forge medium camp hawk Vs Cold Steel Hudson Bay Tomahawk. I know right? That would be a challenging video.

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Doing a comparison video would be much easier than drilling into that hardened head LOL. I am surprised how many people are interested in a comparison of this and the H&B Med camp hawk?

[@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival]

@@Scablands_Scavenger I reckon its because these two tomahawks are boarder lining on the pinacle of the best you can possibly get from a tomahawk as far a design goes. I think its going to be hard pressed trying to beat these two tomahawks? But maybe a tomahawk with the "choil" design under the beard and smooth cut out from the hammer like the Wetterlings Foresters Fine Axe. Now that maybe the icing on the cake as far as tomahawks go? Here's a link kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2G3nZ6ohtSLha8

[@ruairi970]

Nice hawk. Where did you get that anorak. Looks great.

[@waveman0]

needs a 30" handle on it IMHO as is hampered by the shorter factory handle. Another great offering from Cold Steel, from the looks of it will also be my favorite, with the 30" handle.

[@brianmccann666]

The Riflesman Hawk is a Beast on the 30" handle. I love that one. I prefer the Trailhawk for the lighter stuff though. The Norse Hawk would be perfect if it had a hammer or spike.

[@waveman0]

@@brianmccann666 agreed, the rifleman's hawk should come from the factory with an option of a 30" handle.

[@brianmccann666]

The standard 22" handle is more than enough for most hawks. This one could use 30", 22" , 15" or 12" handle. Easy. Great all round head design & weight.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

90 and 45 degree or near to angles to ! would buck better on a solid surface ( no bounce) !

[@tscotts9699]

Thanks for all the hawk vids. One suggestion: post shorter, separate videos. The first 3:30 of this could be its own "First Impressions" video, with all the "Field Testing" coming at a later date. I guarantee you'll see engagement metrics rise.

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

I appreciate the suggestions, thanks for checking out the vids! It has never really been my intention to become a big youtuber or a pro gear tester. My channel was started with my frustration with the lack of included field testing when people would review items without showing them in use. I understand some people want bite size videos, my content may not be for them. I generally do not upload more than a couple videos a year. The extra time to film, edit, upload and interact with each video not to mention the hard drive space required is just not worth the time it would take to do it. For the most part I just do it for fun when I am not doing other things I enjoy.

[@tscotts9699]

​@@Scablands_Scavenger That's cool man. Do your thing. Keep up the good work!

[@johnfaris309]

Hello. I recently purchased a Hudson Bay hawk and am trying to find a kydex sheath for it. I like the work you did on yours'. Please let me know if you're presently making and selling sheaths for this model. I would be interested in picking one up. Thanks.

[@KowboyUSA]

Missed this video somehow. Didn't pop-up in my feed until after I watched cold steel's ad on the Hudson Bay.

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Hey man good hearing from you!.... yeah KZbin is funny like that. they pump your feed full of trending crap but not the stuff your subbed to.

[@KowboyUSA]

@@Scablands_Scavenger Cold Steel needs to put you on the payroll. I've bought every edged tool of theirs you've tested. -- You getting well-smoked over there?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

@@KowboyUSA Ha ha, yeah I wish they would pay me, I am sure I have sold a few hawks for them over the years. Heck yeah we got enough smoke, I could hang a trout on the porch and it would be finished by noon LOL. I imagine your getting it pretty bad over there too?

[@KowboyUSA]

@@Scablands_Scavenger Yeah, it's thick. Think I'm going to find a tall mountain and try to get above it today.

[@samuelwilliams7802]

Hi great reviews 👍 can you tell me please how well does the c s Hudson Bay tomahawk compare with the walk by faith tomahawk considering the prices 😀 many thanks. Sam

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

I can try ha ha. They are very similar in dimensions with slightly different shapes. Very close cutting edge, 3-7/8 vs 3-1/2. The CS weighs 17oz the WBF weighs 14.3 (heads only). They will both do the same work fairly well. The big difference is edge retention and fit and finish. The WBF holds an edge much better and is near perfection as received. The CS will more than likely need edge profiling/sharpening, eye beveled and the handle will need fitting. Some of the CS handles I have received were so bad I had to just make a new one. If you don't mind doing a little work the CS is the budget option, especially if you want to customize it. The WBF is definitely heirloom quality and a nice piece at a custom price. The best part about the WBF is being able to custom order exactly what you want in a hawk (design wise). Hope that helps.

[@Seorak.]

Greetins from Seoul . Your huge fan. Im so curious about your sharpening on it and progress. I bought two CD tomahawk because of your youtube. But still confuse about factory sharpening bevel and make it more angle like one of my gransfors axe. I want your methods

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Thank you for the kind words. I am very glad you enjoy the videos. I use very simple sharpening methods I have uploaded a video showing them a few years ago if you care to watch. kzbin.info/www/bejne/en2vaGBtgdJsf9k

[@Seorak.]

@@Scablands_Scavenger thank you!

[@bullphrogva1804]

Would this fit smoothly on a handle made for the CRKT Wood Chogan?

[@13bravoredleg18]

Cold Steel is the only company that I know of, that loves drilling holes in the axe heads.🙄

[@IIDASHII]

Dude...get over it! Your dedication to poo-pooing them all over KZbin is kind of pathetic!

[@MrFroggy29]

Je pense que c'est bien d avoir un trou , dans lequel on peut mettre une visse, ou pas

[@manguydude905]

Boohooooo

[@takotabyard4923]

A lot of old timers used to drill those holes for a retention pin. A lot of their clients might want to add a simple one but many aren't set up to drill the holes themselves

[@shawnstrasburg9410]

Great review, I also really like your shirt. Where can I find one?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Thanks, the only place I know that still carrys this shirt is sportsmans guide : www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-men039s-ocp-camo-anorak-jacket-new?a=1869236

[@freddy1feed345]

Is it better than CRKT's RMJ Woods Chogan?

[@tacticaltarzan7278]

i'd imagine with that large of a belly combined with that edge profile really lends itself well to chopping and carving eh?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

It is pretty good, slicey dicey, chops ok if a little light. Good for basic carving. Really like the large hammer profile on this one and the head to handle contact area is more than most other smaller hawks, keeps the handle fitment better.

[@WoodsmanHobo777]

I've also noticed how thin the bits are on the CS tomahawks. It's a shame that they make it that thin if they was thicker they would be unbeatable. I also bought the hudson bay hawk hoping the bit was thicker than the frontier hawk and rifleman hawk but unfortunately it was thin. The pipehawk has a thicker bit than the rest which is pretty good

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Yeah I think that will be a dividing line for a lot of people, similar to GBA and Wetterlings. Depending on use and preference most will prefer one over the other. I think that Cold Steel Generally tends to stick with lighter thinner profiles. CRKT on the other hand for the same basic size head Chogan/Pipe has a much thicker wedge shape and adds about 6-7 ounces.

[@theWZZA]

I have this hawk; it's a good one. Totally different league compared to the Frontier or Trail Hawk, with almost a half pound heavier head.. It packs a nice punch for splitting wood and no doubt can take down a small tree. This is more like a small forest axe than a hatchet. The bit takes some reprofiling from the factory to get it to perform like in this video. Standard Cold Steel hawk preparation for the uninitiated.

[@longrider42]

What angle to you re-profile the edge too?

[@theWZZA]

@@longrider42 I just do it by eye and feel.

[@brunoleao8879]

Did you test in comparison with the pipe hawk? Thanks a lot

[@theWZZA]

@@brunoleao8879 don't own the pipe hawk. It's about that same weight as the Hudson bay hawk.

[@brunoleao8879]

@@theWZZA Nice. Thanks a lot

[@Lucky_Shooter]

@Zeuki1 did you sharpen it yourself?

[@TheAnonymousSword]

I was wondering on how the balance of the head is? I own the trailhawk and one thing I like about it is that the bit and pole have nearly the same weight. That in turn makes the handle not roll in your hand as opposed to something like the norsehawk, where the bit has a lot of the heads weight. This one with the thin but brought bit and the hammerpole looks like it will balance perfectly. Thanks in advance.

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

To me, it feels very light and balanced, I like the pipe hawk and it weighs the same...but I just like the feel of this one better. Its completely subjective to each persons taste, but I know what you mean. The CRKT Woods Chogan is one of those that works well but feels awkwardly balanced to me.

[@TheAnonymousSword]

@@Scablands_Scavenger Thank you, this was the info that I needed. A friend of mine has the pipehawk and I always wanted one but with a larger hammerpole. I'll definetly give this one a shot, if they release it to the european market.

[@longrider42]

I have 4 cold steel hawks, and just bought this one today. Did you re-profile the edge and if so what angle did you use? I've but 24 degree edges on my hawks. Seems to work well. Oh, and take that Bloody Set screw out and throw it away :) It will damage the handle.

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

I normally run a slightly convex edge profile. I don't really use a specified angle just eyeball it and adjust as necessary depending on how it performs. Agreed, every one I purchase the set screw gets tossed and head/handle shaped. Some of the factory handles have been really bad, In that case I use a sledgehammer handle and make a new one.

[@alittletoofrank]

This hawk has been out of stock everywhere for some time now. I've been dying to get one...

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Yeah they have been real hit or miss with availability over the last couple years. For a while they were the only ones in stock and couldn't find most the others. I normally sign up for email alerts at the big sellers and wait it out.

[@contrabassbob]

How do you think it compares to that H&B medium you reviewed a while back?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Its hard to say, they are so different. I think I told another who asked the same question: it is like comparing a steak dinner to fast food, they both fill you up but one is a little better tasting maybe but costs more. The cold steel is about 4 ounces heavier and a little larger. As for edge retention I find that the H&B are slightly softer and more resilient (in the best way possible) and the cold steel is slightly harder prone to chip rather than roll ( rocks or nail strikes). They both hold an edge very well. I like them both and would not say one is better than the other. There is a certain "pride of ownership" that comes from the handmade H&B... but I also enjoy modifying a new Cold Steel so yeah.

[@carls.6746]

Alder is also best for black powder

[@haveaknifeday]

I just placed an order on your eBay store

[@juliansontheimer6635]

How did you modified the head, so that it has this cool Finish?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

The handle is the only part I re finished on this one, the head is factory finished. I have two of these, a trail hawk, and rifleman's that all came with a kind of blued look rather than the old thick enamel paint they used to use, its a better look in my opinion and saves me having to strip and blue it!

[@peterfullarton5690]

So given the choice, would you go for this or the Cold Steel Viking hand axe for camping/bushcraft and why?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

For bushcraft/camping I would choose the Hudson mainly because it has a hardened hammer poll and is more of a general purpose design.

[@peterfullarton5690]

@@Scablands_Scavenger thanks for the reply. So what would the viking hand axe lend itself to better?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

@@peterfullarton5690 Honestly that depends on skill set. The axe is light for its size and has such a broad cutting edge that it tends to have a lot of bounce back when chopping. The bit is very narrow so does not split as well as axes of the same weight that are more compact. I did a video on it a while back. It will perform most camp tasks but feels handicapped by design. Cold Steel Collaborated with blade smiths Dave Baker and Rich Mcdonald. It was designed it to be a "fighting axe" (according to CS site). I am not a fighting axe guru or martial artist so cannot speak to its effectiveness in that area. It is a fun axe to use, and throws well. I have used it with a short handle for light camp chores as well and double rotation throws. It is not my first choice for outdoor tasks but I like having it in my collection.

[@lrrp692]

Ok thanks are you going to put it out on your KZbin channel if you decide to make them?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

The fastest way to be notified is to follow my seller account on ebay. At this point no one has contacted me from the last batch I have sold, so I am assuming tthere where no issues or they would have contacted me by now. Then again people have alot going on in their lives at the moment.

[@bobsundquist2039]

What is your favorite hawk? Was looking at getting a GOSHawk.

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Not to dodge the question... but I have too many favorites ha ha. It really comes down to what I am doing, heavy winter camping with lots of firewood to process or middle of summer when going light is more important. H&B makes fine hawks, a good choice in any model you go with.

[@brianmccann666]

Bob... Another question. You looking for a "project" hawk ? Or A higher quality hawk with minimal or no need to work on the hawk yourself ? If you're willing to customize a hawk. A cheap CS hawk will be a workhorse fir you. Depends on desired head blade size, weight, style, hammer, spike, nothing on back...etc. You will have to sharpen a CS better to a working edge to scary sharpness. Tasks you need to perform matters too. You want High Quality. The H&B Hawks are out their. More money. But they come ready to use and to work. I'll let Z tell you more about their head designs and quality. But if you want Top Mastercraft Solid Metal Full Tang. Look to RMJ's designs. Expensive. Scary sharp. Near Indestructible. Only downside. You can't remove the head. Full Tang. Now RMJ has designed a few wood handle head for CRKT. Above cs in quality. Below H&B in quality. Its crkt manufacturing but rmj designs....

[@Doom_moose]

If you've had or tried one, how does the Cold Steel Rifleman's Hawk compare to the Hundson Bay Hawk?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

The Rifleman is much heavier and larger. To me it feels a little too big for the handle size, it can sink so deep into a round that you can break the handle if you are not careful removing it. The Hudson is much lighter and faster in the hand, more of a light packable or belt tool but is not good for splitting or bucking larger firewood. Both work well if used within their limits and picked for what specific needs are. Personally if I need or want the capability of the Rifleman I choose a small/mid sized axe.

[@Doom_moose]

@Scablands_Scavenger Thank you! I've been considering a replacement for the boy's axe that I usually carry; I've found myself cutting smaller pieces and using it one-handed more often than anything, so I've been considering these hawks or a small hatchet. I think I'll try out the Hudson Bay Hawk.

[@Vikingwpg]

How's the balance? Love your tomahawk vids.

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Great in my opinion. I really like the balance of this hawk. To me it is more balanced than the almost equal weight Pipe hawk. The downside is the Hudson has a narrower blade profile. Another benefit of the Hudson is the larger contact area of the head to haft, It is the largest of the lighter hawks. this makes better contact with the haft and once fitted decreases the head "working loose" during use.

[@Vikingwpg]

@@Scablands_Scavenger I did wonder if blade profile was a bit narrow. Is it your favorite of the cold steel hawks?

[@robertbalasko7243]

This one is like the Trail hawk and Frontier hawk all in one😉🐺🏔🔥

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Agreed, best attributes in lightweight package with wide blade for maximum cutting. Also has a good sized hammer poll for pounding stakes or doing other chores. Very good lightweight balance. Another great benefit to this design is the extra contact area that the head has with the handle almost double the others, this will increase the stability and overall durability and lifespan of the handle fitment area.

[@robertbalasko7243]

@@Scablands_Scavenger can't wait for the full review!

[@tolerhousecookies69]

Where did you get your camouflage tactical hoodie?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

This is the only place I know that still carries one like it (sportsmans guide) : www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/us-military-surplus-men039s-ocp-camo-anorak-jacket-new?a=1869236

[@user-ue6cl2gt1c]

Which one is better or the Frontier Hawk if you only had to choose one?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

I would choose the Hudson, I prefer having the hammer poll and find it worth the extra couple ounces in weight.

[@user-ue6cl2gt1c]

@@Scablands_Scavenger But you don't leave Hudson in the tree, the hammer will interfere with this.

[@deathbyastonishment7930]

Sorry if I missed it, but how does the weight compare to the frontier/Norse hawks

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

The Norse hawk is 13 oz, the frontier hawk is 10.6 oz.

[@deathbyastonishment7930]

ZEUKI1 thanks mate

[@fathersonsurvival]

Is this better than the riflemans hawk?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

"Better" would depend on what your intended use and expectations are. Both have a 3.5" cutting blade but not much else is similar. The Hudson weighs around one pound and has a very thin bit. The Rifleman's hawk weighs 26 ounces and is both longer and wider in the bit. Depending on what you are looking for one may be better than the other. The Hudson is a bit lighter and thinner, more compact good for packing while the Rifleman's is heavier and larger and will do better at processing larger amounts of wood. Hope this helps.

[@user-mm7st8ji3q]

Классный топор,хочу себе такой!!!

[@sethking3]

how does this compare to the H&B hawk?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

I am surprised how many have asked this question lol...."It sets right in between my medium camp hawk and the GOS hawk in size. It has a thinner blade, and is much cheaper. I would not replace one for the other, H&B are like a sit down steak dinner and the Cold Steel is fast food. Both make you not hungry but one costs more and might be a better overall experience" this is the response given to others. I think I will have to do a few comparison videos if we ever get to go back into the woods again !

[@sethking3]

@@Scablands_Scavenger Thank you for the fast and detailed response. I feel better now about my 2Hawks purchase. I have to wait 2 months though until my new hawk comes. I appreciate your videos and have learned a lot from your tomahawk skills 👍

[@brandonjenkins7569]

What size handle are you using with it?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

This is factory 22" handle just stained and dressed up.

[@brandonjenkins7569]

@@Scablands_Scavenger think it would go nicely with the 30" handle ?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

@@brandonjenkins7569 Depends I guess, both my 30" handles weigh around 15oz. They feel a little off balanced with this light head on them. No doubt it would gain power and safety from the longer handle depending on what you are doing... myself I normally pair a shorter handle with lighter heads for light camp chores/carving/hot tent kindling. If I am going to take a longer axe/hawk its for heavier wood processing and I want a heavier head, something like the rifleman or a 1.5lb pack axe etc. Having said that if you do go with a longer handle (buy or make) you can make whatever size fits your needs, I have a 26" handle I use on my warhammer and it is a good balance on the Hudson Hawk.

[@brandonjenkins7569]

@@Scablands_Scavenger okay great thanks for the response! I'm going to pick one up rn

[@awesomesongs9832]

Can you throw it?

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

Nope, against the law.

[@GrizzlyGroundswell]

Cold Steel pissed me off. I ordered 3 axes from them. Two of them came with taiwan stickers on their heads. I can't stand supporting an American business then finding out they don't support America but instead buy in cheap parts. Nothing against taiwan, just a bitter reminder of why we have to America Great Again. One head snapped off the handle on the second wack, one head looked like it was made of tin after a black walnut destroyed it. and the tomohawk is still kicking but dull and piss poor handle. The price was right, but I will steer clear of cold steel in future.

[@MrOEFVeteran]

Spend the money and get a woodcraft pack axe from council tool. Made in America, by Americans, from American materials

[@Scablands_Scavenger]

I hope you contacted Cold Steel and related this experience to them, they cant fix what they don't know. I am not here to defend a company or a product...nor do I wish to discuss the merits, politics or driving force of a global economy. As for Cold Steel not supporting Americans, they have and do employ many Americans directly at their US facilities and indirectly through use of American made steels used in many of their products and the many designers, testers, spokesmen salesmen and product reps not to mention the many many independent distributors/sellers. They also support, and are arguably the most vocal advocate for the use of their products in self defense. Lynn Thompson does not beat around the bush telling customers his products are made to stop bad guys. Unlike most other knife makers these days that are too scared to tip toe around slicing tofu aggressively. I get it though a bad experience is a bad experience.... I have had a few with one or two of the manufacturers I have purchased from, American and others.

[@asmith7876]

Cold Steel doesn't hide where their stuff is made. I have a couple of tomahawks and they've been fantastic, and my son and I have tons of knives, swords, spears, etc. Camillus used to make their stuff so that was US made but they went under many years ago. Curious if what you bought was from Cold Steel or maybe you had fakes or seconds? I'd definitely send that stuff back so they can make it right. Estwing is US made and all steel, maybe check them out too.

[@MrOEFVeteran]

@@asmith7876 estwing makes a cheap axe. Sure, they are all steel... But it's a cheap steel that won't hold up to years of abuse. Take it from someone who has owned a lot of edged tools/weapons. You get what you pay for. Sure, cold steel makes some very beefy and strong knives, swords, and hawks... But there is a reason they are so cheap. Best thing to do with CS axes and hawks is use them as a basis for a project. Refinish the head by stripping the varnish and then bluing the steel. Reset the edge and actually make it sharp. Then hang on a quality handle of your choosing. Or, spend the money and buy an heriloom quality axe.