College Degree Difficulty Tier List (Most Difficult Majors Ranked)

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So… What degree is the hardest? (comment down below your guesses before watching the video)
This video is going to be all about determining which college majors are the hardest. The hardest college majors is a topic that many people debate and they can get somewhat heated about it too, especially triggered engineers lol.
Just kidding ;)
But yeah today we’re going to be going over the hardest degrees in the world, I’ll be going over common college majors and ranking them from S tier for the hardest to F tier for the easiest.
If you don’t see your degree on there, that’s because it’s not worthy. Just kidding, it’s because I want to keep this video at a decent length.
Enjoy!
~Shane
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[@richardhu3774]

Dude, mathematics should be in S+. You have no idea how hard it actually is. All the hard parts of all engineering fields come from ideas in math, and a math major is required to prove those ideas in the most rigorous way. Complex analysis, graph theory, and mathematical statistics can destroy most people who have thought math is easy for their entire life.

[@dylanandrejic4902]

This is me right now, first year Mathematics lol

[@AdrienLegendre]

Agree. Ask the physics student about the mathematical basis for quantum physics: Lie groups, Lie algebra, the Lagrangian, Feynman diagrams etc.

[@BlacktallGreeneyes-tw8iy]

Agreed my top math course Calculus II was really difficult to grasp as a comp sci student. That’s probably not even half way through a math major

[@MissiFull]

w a topology

[@bigbao9843]

Topology💀

[@nihilisticboi3520]

Majoring in mathematics is almost as hard (if not harder) as physics. Mathematics should be S+ tier.

[@fortniter2738]

😂😂😂😂😂 you can't be serious

[@nihilisticboi3520]

@@fortniter2738 I'm not joking. As a physics major, I've taken few courses on mathematics and they were not easy. Abstract algebra course is just pain.

[@graystone2802]

@@nihilisticboi3520I’m finishing my bachelors in physics next semester, with a minor in mathematics. In my opinion and experience, math did not require nearly as much critical thinking as physics. It’s the problem solving that makes physics courses seem unpassable to so many people, because no matter how much you study or prepare, you may simply just not be able to piece together the riddle that physics questions tend to be.

[@kekw2262]

@@graystone2802 that's probably because you haven't started proofs

[@nihilisticboi3520]

@@graystone2802 interesting. As much as i agree with you on physics problems, i personally found coming up with proofs in mathematics to be plain hard. Proofs in real and complex analysis, group theory and linear algebra are just hard. The concepts are easy to learn but when a questions pops up on writing proofs, my brain.exe would stop working properly. (when I mean mathematics, i mean like the rigorous proof kind)

[@Juxtaroberto]

I have a bachelor's and master's in physics, currently working on my PhD in theoretical high energy physics and I think math needs to be S tier. Especially considering courses like real analysis, topology, and algebra are quite abstract and are something that as a formally trained physicist, I would carefully consider before taking, even now.

[@ck4638]

I have mathematics degree. I studied real analysis , topology and group theory etc. and I found them very difficult to grasp. Not worth the pain and hard work. Pure mathematics has lesser jobs than applied mathematics. I now work in IT as data analyst.

[@jeffreystevens964]

Abstract algebra itself should be s tier

[@bm-br3go]

@@jeffreystevens964 Do you find undergrad algebra harder than undergrad analysis? I always thought algebra was way easier than analysis up until you get to specialized fields like representation theory, algebraic geometry, commutative algebra, etc. At that point analysis becomes much easier.

[@masterp9376]

I am currently majoring in physics should I stop at masters or phd?

[@ck4638]

@@masterp9376 I know one who did post doctorate in nuclear physics. He is a professor in a well know university now. Loses his hair line by age 30. Lol

[@TheRiverNyle]

I’m double majoring in CS and Math, and lemme tell you, I expected this degree to be a lot easier than it actually turned out to be. Generally, the first semester of CS tends to be easier with just a programming course, but as soon as second semester hits with Theory of Computation courses, CS students get a reality check

[@-glitch-8195]

Thats why I plan on taking some time off from working. Maybe even quitting just so I am fully focused on studying. You have to prepare so that you're not overwhelmed but the problem is people take on so many responsibilities that they cannot handle. The other option is you lack the skill sets and work a low end job for the rest of your life.

[@Prodigy10044]

Bro forreal! Especially when you gotta start taking C and code up processes and shit. Assembly language, etc. super difficult😭

[@learntostrafe]

My uni makes the 2nd year so hard for CS students. It's meant to weed out the people who actually want to go down that path.

[@TheRiverNyle]

@@-glitch-8195 Can’t be better said. Students def tend to take up too many responsibilities at first, and make their work very unrealistic. The key to success in CS is being realistic with your time 💯

[@TheRiverNyle]

@@Prodigy10044 That’s facts bro. C starts off pretty easy, but then gets complicated extremely fast imo. Assembly language, advanced data structures and algorithms, Neural Networks in ML, etc. all scream reality check lol

[@killitboi2786]

Mathematics not being in S tier is one of the most insane things I’ve ever seen on this channel. I normally agree with what you say but that is just absurd. Mathematics could easily be in its own tier, especially pure mathematics which is in a completely different league to any physics or engineering degree.

[@CountChokcula]

you learn most of a normal BS mathematics degree in engineering

[@nomarxistspls90]

@@CountChokcula Not even close. The majority of the very rigorous proof based classes you take as a math major aren't taught to engineering students, or even most physics students for that matter...

[@CountChokcula]

@@nomarxistspls90 okay, we learn up to 1/3 at the most

[@nomarxistspls90]

@@CountChokcula I’d agree there. But the very logic/proof based pure math classes aren’t taught to engineers such as algebraic topology, analytic number theory, complex analysis, rigorous probability theory, differential geometry, graph theory etc. I’ve met engineers who didn’t even have to take abstract algebra. Even when engineers do take these classes they are generally taught in a far more computational way and less rigorous.

[@killitboi2786]

@@CountChokcula this is completely false in every way. Engineering barely even scratches the surface of mathematics. It’s well known that a mathematics degree is the hardest conceptually because of the rigour and abstract nature of it.

[@wickz7119]

I double majored in physics and pure math and in my opinion, math is definitely S tier. From my experience, lower level math like differential equations, multivariable calculus, linear algebra, etc. are easier than physics courses, but upper division pure math like topology, differential geometry, analysis, abstract algebra, etc. are probably the hardest classes a university offers.

[@davincimemes3631]

I earned a B.S in Physics (with minors in math and chemistry). I couldn't agree with you more.

[@SFG2921]

im currently studying for a masters in mathematics and there is no lower level math to be honest. Every part of maths can go so much deeper. like differential equations, they are not simple. solving simple ones yes, but how do you prove there are unique solutions, how do you solve higher dimensional equations, or systems of differential equations? The list of questions goes on and on.

[@chewy7325]

⁠@@SFG2921I’m considering pursuing math. I have two years of school left and I am quite good at it (90% student) but by no means a genius that can solve every question in a book or exam. Would you recommend this course considering my ability ?

[@SFG2921]

@@chewy7325 i mean if you are understanding everything at school level quite easily then you should be able to study it at a university level, it will however focus more on proofs and more of an in depth understanding of the material. In school you are always taught how to just answer questions but in university you will have some of these "use the method" type questions, but you will also be required to understand the derivations of these methods and also proofs of some theorems. In my experience, the more simpler theorems of the course are often the ones you need to know proofs for, so dont worry about having to learn proofs for theorems which are like 10 pages long. I was also like you and scored highly in math at school as a kid, never thought of myself as a genius or anything but i never studied and got As in math. In university you will need to start studying. I didnt study all that much though either if i'm honest. maybe a couple hours a week outside classes, and i maintained mostly As throughout my time so far at university.

[@chewy7325]

@@SFG2921 very interesting. I have alot to think about. Thanks for your reply man it helped a lot 🙏

[@asdfasdfuhf]

My only question is what qualifies this random dude on youtube to rank college degrees by difficulty? Chances are he has not attempted most of these

[@061_arsh]

now i feel like i should't have watched this video 😂😂

[@GameFiai]

Someone’s butthurt that their useless major got ranked in F tier🤣

[@lilac9075]

​@@GameFiaithis isn't a "most useful major" tier list. a major being super hard doesn't mean it's useful, and viceversa. even then, their point still stands.

[@GameFiai]

@@lilac9075 It's highly correlated to the usefulness of the major. All of the F tier degrees are useless. If you watched the video, you'd know that the guy literally says to take his opinions with a grain of salt.

[@lilac9075]

@@GameFiai that's simply not true. even by his own parameters, if you watch other videos of him you'll see a lot of the rather easy majors are very useful and the same with the hard ones. To name an example, biology is in A and there's another video where he says it's useless. And yes, he said that, so the op is absolutely in the right to question where he gets all this information. There's no point in commenting what you said.

[@craigenglish5732]

Point of note: at my university, Biomedical Engineering is considered the hardest, most competitive majors. Since it is so competitive, there is a rigorous process to even be accepted into the major (essentially requiring straight A's in the first 1-2 years of college, especially in the first 8 physics credits, calc 1-3, 8 chemistry credits, and biology. Additionally, an essay is required that is highly scrutinized. I know multiple people with 4.0 GPA's as sophomores who were rejected.) The rigorous acceptance process likely reduces the number of drop outs significantly.

[@bigbutterboy4887]

Same here! I double-majored in Biomedical Engineering and Psychology and now I'm a sophomore in med school. Let me tell you, my undergraduate was a living hell, but I am so grateful. I had a leg up on my classmates in all my introductory anatomy/physiology courses (and a lot of them were physiology and biology majors!) because BME requires such an in-depth, broad conception of the workings of the human body. Do not even get me started on the computer stuff though oml. Not a fan of programming. Not a fan of 3-D modeling. That being said, those courses taught me a lot even if they did permanently fracture my soul.

[@craigenglish5732]

@@bigbutterboy4887 Congratulations! I want to go to med school, but I'm struggling to build up my resume outside of just academics (ie. clinical experience, leadership opportunities) because the BME course load is so intense.

[@abhishekgrewal8906]

I’d assume the reason for it being competitive is try hard premeds want to get into to have a great backup along with people who actually want to get in the program

[@swarley2500]

You’re definitely underestimating mathematics. Remember that a lot of the difficulty in STEM subjects come from the mathematics. But when you’re exclusively studying mathematics as a major, then it is going to get extremely difficult and abstract.

[@JuanJimenez-pt3dn]

Would not mind seeing a longer more detailed version of this + more obscure majors like Mortuary science.

[@juanjosetalerogarcia902]

Mortar science?

[@ShaneHummus]

Noted!

[@Charlie-qv4zh]

@@ShaneHummus guessing HOSP management is F tier

[@luisatali]

I'm studying equine science and I have not seen it anywhere lmao

[@killitboi2786]

@@ShaneHummus why is mathematics not in S tier? Were you intoxicated while making this tier list? Mathematics is literally the hardest subject out there.

[@WiiNunchuck]

I think that a ‘40 minute video’ is what this type of topic needs. The elaboration is helpful and necessary in my opinion, as i felt that this was just missing something. Nice work regardless.

[@shawnnicholson6756]

The difficulty level can depend on the program at your school. I attended two different universities for the same major and one was definitely harder than the other.

[@Potato-mk7dd]

I’m doing a Cybersecurity and Comp-sci major with a dual major of math and Computer networking and secure software development… the breakdown of encryption and security boggles my mind. My professors are all insanely smart and still consistently learn new things. The fact that we have to constantly learn and adapt to new technologies is pretty crazy. I would say that’s near S tier if not very low S tier.

[@aaron-damonkassner4715]

Cyber isn’t too bad. But CompSci does have a lot of attention to detail and memorizing a lot of rules, which some people may or may not get easily or some too hard.

[@dankwoffmemes7735]

Aerospace engineer and physics was spot on. Met a few at my uni and they sounded/acted literally like geniuses.

[@alittax]

In what way? Can you please elaborate?

[@CubicleComa369]

I’m in my 4th year of aerospace engineering and I can assure you I’m no genius 😭

[@dorivenlegit]

@@CubicleComa369 you give me hope

[@EhM-xt7pl]

Aerospace Engineer here, can't relate lol I'm stoopid

[@lilysticha7564]

Physics major here, I'm only taking general physics right now and I've cried for like 4 days in a row trying to study for my final, I'm in trouble😂

[@liszt77777]

I think it is a huge disrespect to put mathematics in A tier. Mathematics is definitely one of the hardest major of all time, arguably the most difficult major (along with physics and statistics). Please do more thorough research and modify ur tier list if possible. Thanks

[@michaeldillman1660]

Difficulty is so subjective. I have students majoring in STEM fields that find writing/research/presenting extremely difficult. For them, the list would look totally different.

[@emiledin2183]

But that's false since theres data on stress levels, amount of hours spent studying and drop out rates between degrees. That is objective evidence of difficulty level, not subjective. Obviously interest and (social anxiety) plays a role in presentations, writing etc. But objectively logic heavy courses are more difficult.

[@nayjer2576]

But you can learn writing/research/presenting much easier then STEM fields. But for me it would be hella boring so it might be more difficult in that sense.

[@NutsNBolts-fv9kx]

I have a childhood friend who was a borderline STEM prodigy, but couldn't write a Persuasive or Narrative essay to save his life. Likewise, I was reading and writing at a college level from an early age but I have horrendous dyscalculia

[@mitchbron01]

I mean, I’m a senior engineering student and while I do find that writing/presenting is extremely difficult, I also know that if I decided to learn that instead then I would have WAY more time on my hands. I know the classes themselves are easier and the concepts are faster to learn because they’re not clouded by obscure levels of abstraction

[@ALifeofPeculiarity]

I wouldn’t say a Music degree is easy at all. The level of knowledge needed prior to beginning this degree is often incomparable to those starting other fields. For instance, an individual studying Cello Performance in undergraduate likely practiced and took lessons for over 10 years prior to starting college. You can’t just become a Music Performance major on a whim. Something to take into account…

[@mikemalloy1681]

Very true.

[@stevenpollard5171]

In high school, I heard a fellow band mate telling our band director that he was tired of all these hard math and science classes, and in college he is going to take something easy, like music. I am sure the band director is still laughing after all these years.

[@hectornieves537]

I'd say the ranking was accurate for Music solid D.

[@ghastlyalden3187]

Yup.

[@jspankin]

@@hectornieves537 The people thinking this have no clue how much talent (natural aptitude) and practice (skill) is required to be good enough at music to get into a college music program. It would be just as hard for the AVERAGE person to do a degree in music as it would be for them to do a degree in math. Preparing for music starts LONG before getting into college, which is not the case with engineering/math etc

[@Santiago_RS]

I respect and admire whoever majors in Mathematics/Physics and all this crazy stuff; is just way too hard for me, it looks exhausting and I would probably go insane in the first semester

[@Ployu130]

As someone who majored (at some point) mechanical engineering, physics, and economics. I cannot stress enough how obscenely difficult physics is compared to anything I’ve ever experienced before. I see a lot of comments saying how mathematics should be S, but I think it’s extremely important to make the distinction between physics and mathematics as many of the harder classes required for a mathematics degree are not only required for a physics degree but also the application of them at a high level is required to even comprehend the basics. I was surrounded by geniuses and I myself am far from a genius and that’s why I have an Econ degree. :)

[@stopkillingmemes7259]

Math is much harder than physics. Your point about how "high" level math classes is required in physics is just wrong, atleast in undergrad. Physics requires some calc 3, ODE/PDE, and linear at the undergrad level. If you're a very advanced undergrad, you might use some basic group theory or differential geometry for GRprerequisite. But these are in intro classes for math majors (an intro to manifolds class pretty much only requires analysis as a prereq).

[@jofujino]

​@@stopkillingmemes7259I think that must depend on the college. At least at my college I don't think Math was harder than physics. That said, the difficulty of your math major also depended on the type of math you were doing. You needed to take real analysis and linear algebra but after that you could go a more pure math route (number theory, abstract algebra, topology etc.) or a more grounded applied math route (probability, statistics, financial engineering, etc). The latter was definitely easier than physics whereas the former I am not familiar enough with to compare.

[@thenumber1stunna69]

My roommate was a PhD student in Physics smartest person i’ve ever met.

[@welid9772]

Only the easier math classes are required for a physics degree lol

[@flaviadeluce8141]

@@stopkillingmemes7259 at my university (but in germany, so that's probably not comparable), you attend the maths lectures of the math major on top to the physics lectures in the first three semesters. After that, you are encouraged to take differential geometry, function analysis and function theory if you want to pursue a more theoretical track - all next to your physics lectures. I wouldn't say that physics is harder than maths in general, but if you have this system physic-students just take double the amount of lectures and basically are part of the maths students in the first two years.

[@Brian-ro7st]

I was a CS and Music double major. If the music degree is rigorous, it belongs in A tier. Other programs could fall in D tier. Some semesters keeping up with the music workload was considerably more work than my CS degree. Most schools don't have anywhere near the rigor in terms of Music Theory or History that mine did, but those that do are easily 80 hours or more worth of classwork/practice/ensemble rehearsal time a week.

[@24cf648]

Agree on the music major part. Yes, we've got a bunch of easy classes but the heaviest workload is set on your instrument. I honestly need to practice 6 hours per day, classes aside. And if concerts or examinations are close it's even more.

[@sanfayyaad]

Interesting combination of majors.

[@Brian-ro7st]

@@sanfayyaad you’d be surprised, there was five of us in my year alone, not a very big school, maybe 50 music majors in a given class.

[@ElenaCorral-gx3bp]

yo ive been thinking about my college majors and the only interest i have is music major but im afraid of taking it cause of what my mom would say, so any advice?

[@Brian-ro7st]

@@ElenaCorral-gx3bp Double major is the way to 1. please your parents and 2. have something employable if music doesn't work out. It helped that I had an interest in CS, but even something like marketing or finance could be a good fit if you aren't into STEM. I know a lot of music majors who were good but not great. Even one or two that were quite good, finished a master's, and just couldn't find work. The ones with double majors in that group are doing better than the ones who didn't, but ultimately they all found work in business. The second major just gives you a say in what that work is if music doesn't work out. The people with a music performance major and no backup plan just took whatever they could get.

[@bourbon8705]

If Physics is in S tier then Maths should be as well.

[@scitails]

The issue with degrees like art, dance, music, etc. is that they often require an extra level of qualification that you might simply be unable to achieve regardless of your effort. For example, I have a sister that got into a college with a very good art program. Despite the fact that she has been dedicated to art since at least early high school (spends most of her free time improving at it) and is very talented IMO, she still couldn't qualify for the degree after taking the prerequisites. The people who get into the degree at her school are apparently already at a graduate level of talent relative to other school's programs, which kinda makes you wonder why they need much education at all, but does keep the program as a well-known one for placing so well. I feel like we shouldn't neglect the difficulty in qualifying for artistic degrees, because with other competitive degrees, regardless of difficulty, you can just ace a few freshman classes and get in as long as you work hard enough in your courses.

[@steveharris1740]

To be fair, with the exception of pre-law and pre-med, he wasn’t measuring them on how hard it was to “get accepted into” the degree program. He was measuring how difficult the actual degree program is to “complete”…like how difficult the coursework is. Most people (well, all, really, because there is usually an audition or something for the performing arts) who do an art or music degree already know how to draw, sing, play an instrument, etc. The degree program is just helping to take the student to the next level and give them a comprehensive education surrounding that talent. Engineering, Organic Chemistry, Computer Programming, Molecular Biology, and Applied Physics concepts are concepts the students have been exposed to, but most are not near proficient in going into the degree program. These degree programs take intense learning, studying, memorization, critical thinking, and application to master. One would argue there is definitely more “learning” required with these than in an art degree. Sure, one could argue that an art degree or music degree is equal. One could argue that the ability of a person to solve physics problems is a natural talent just like singing or playing piano. I do believe Will Hunting (Good Will Hunting, 1997) compared being able to play a piano as equal to being able to do organic chemistry. It is indeed subjective. But, at the end of the day, most people would agree art and performing arts degrees are much easier to complete than an engineering physics degree.

[@bj_cat103]

the problem in there might be the subjectivity of those qualifiers. In other subjects, you just do what is required and get the result from how much of the tasks were done right. In art, there's no objective measure to evaluate how good or bad the dance was or how good or bad the drawing is. It's just subjective since someone likes one style, someone likes another. I remember one dancing show where a professional award-winning dancer got rejected for her dance being "too emotionless and boring" by the people who got much less achievments than she did

[@goldmantis5850]

That’s why as much as I love the arts I think it’s a stupid idea to major in them. I hate the idea of being judged on an objective, quantitative scale for something that should be done as your own personal artistic expression. If you are being judged against other artists and have to make “better” art than them to be successful, then it isn’t really art anymore. This goes the same for trying to make a career out of art. I think it’s great if you can make money off of your art, but if you’re going in with the intent of making money, I don’t see it as art anymore.

[@peterwilson8039]

@@steveharris1740 As a physics major I took two semesters of organic chem. It was challenging, because there was so much to remember, but I liked it very much. I'm a guitar player, and I have given the piano a try, but I don't think there is any question that playing the piano well would be much more difficult than learning organic chemistry. I think in any discipline that involves performance, the performance requirement would put it beyond the reach of most people.

[@tracy_cakkes]

I’m studying digital marketing and doing a minor in computer science. Id say this list is pretty accurate. My comp sci classes are definitely more rigorous. However, my school still required stats and calculus for marketing.

[@ShaneHummus]

Agreed!

[@dedivad]

Good combo. What's the name of the University?

[@CzechTheKillcam]

I know too many Pre-Law Students that completely shifted focuses because they were not nearly prepared for the intensity of real school post 4 year Psych, Poli-Sci, and CJ degrees. As a current MBA student I would agree with the majority of your Business school rankings, but would suggest moving all of them to B or less. Unless you go for further certifications or schooling, every Business route is relatively simple.

[@9BeetleBones6]

I got English and History degrees and I gotta say, History is MUCH more difficult in terms of workload and rigor in my experience. We had a lot more people drop out of the program, just under half. I’m a hell of a reader and writer and I was still pulling longer hours than any of my colleagues in business or finance - just massive time investment for history.

[@nicobrady1596]

@@user-vg1ub3mq5l depends, theyre easy to pass but getting an A in history is very rare.

[@JolonRubio]

I’m a Psych major & from my personal experience History classes are the most rigorous. You need to have a certain level of reading comprehension to get an A in those classes. The courseload for history classes are typically among the highest from my experience.

[@social191]

Not only was it hard to get A’s, some of my former professors were way too political. I couldn’t stand it anymore!

[@carterburpee8499]

I'm currently a bio major, but I'm looking at transferring to a school with a chem program because I have absolutely loved all my chem classes. In my experience the thing most bio majors struggle with is just the amount of terminology and the chemistry. I would probably bump it down a step just cause aside from like four classes it really isn't hard at all as long as you're disciplined about studying.

[@seankinnicutt5092]

For someone like me who is pre-med that is a bio major it can be nerve racking on exam day trying to get all A’s when you have to cram so much information in your head. That said besides Orgo and maybe Anatomy/Physiology the material itself isn’t too challenging just a lot of memorization.

[@raytorrecarion]

Have you considered Chemical Engineering as a CHE major I took inorganic chem I&2, Qualitative Chemistry, Quantitative Chemistry, Organic Chemistry I&2, Physical Chemistry 1&2, and lastly Process Engineering Chemistry. You also will be getting lots of Physics, Chemical Thermodynamics, and Unit Operations, which is mass transfer, heat and energy transfer, and simultaneous mass and energy transfer, which is practical chemistry applied to industrial & process engineering practices.

[@zigzagnemesist5074]

I’m sorry but I had to click off the video as soon as I heard Mathematics was not in S tier. This is ridiculous, Mathematics is notoriously the hardest degree. The reason physics is harder than chemistry is because of the extra mathematical content, we literally quantify the difficulty of a subject by how much mathematics it has in it. No engineering degree even comes close to the difficulty of a mathematics degree, even engineers know it. I’m honestly shocked right now. Please do another video on this with explanations,

[@BilalAhmed5]

It’s true I’m in engineering and the math classes are the easiest for me

[@gasserhegazy1267]

I do agree with you. The more math something has the harder, but taking my highschool courses as reference, physics has been the hardest by far due to how much problem solving there actually is. And I'd assume engineering is the same. Physics is harder than math id say because it is just math but wayy more calculus involved in engineering and way more rigorous real world problem solving. So physics degrees like engineering are just math but more rigorous problem solving. Which is why I personally struggled at physics class in highschool. Problem solving in physics using calculus and such takes a whole different level of brain power

[@zigzagnemesist5074]

@@gasserhegazy1267 you can’t be serious talking about high school stuff. At university level and beyond Mathematics is way harder than engineering and physics.

[@gasserhegazy1267]

@@zigzagnemesist5074 youre right using highschool as reference is kinda wacky. I do agree mathematics is definitely an S tier. But are u sure theoretical physics is harder then theoretical maths

[@fagyu7502]

I'm studying electrical engineering, I had to take 4 math classes and most of the time I only understood what was going on in math class because I saw the applications in signals or emf related classes. I do know a few guys from campus who study maths and the level of philosophical depth that they study it at would be completely impossible for me so I do believe math is definitely harder than electrical

[@MrLethalShots]

As a masters student in theoretical physics, you grossly underestimate how difficult mathematics is as a university subject. I went into physics _because_ of how difficult a math degree is. We have to take 1 course from the mathematics department as part of our degree and it's the one everyone fears the most. (note I am also referring to pure math here)

[@MrLethalShots]

@@Betweoxwitegan In the masters I took two courses on quantum field theory for particle physics and two courses on quantum field theory for condensed matter physics, and then one course each on general relativity, cosmology, gravitational waves, computer simulations in statistical physics and lastly quantum computing.

[@Takosaga]

Here is the reason for math should be S. Find any real analysis book, find the first problem from the first problem set and explain what the first question is asking. Not what the answer is, but what the question is asking.

[@NachoSchips]

Thank you

[@user-hs4dm9xq5e]

I'm studying Biology and boi you are so right, I severely underestimated how loaded the entire degree actually is..

[@errrcc]

Chemical engineering student here. Nice tier list I agree!

[@maciejkornicki3438]

A few notes about studying a foreign language from scratch at university (I am a native speaker of Polish studying Danish, now at about C1 proficiency level): 1. it depends masively on the complexity of the language itself. For a long time finnish studies at my Universitywere 4 years long in stead of the usual 3, due to the horrendus complexity of the grammar in the Finnish language (ex. 15 grammatical cases; for comparison English and many other germanic languages have none). 2. Also, after the first year it becomes preety clear who is good/motivated (in the best case both) at learning a particular language, as the gap in proficiency becomes clearer (both the proffesors and other students notice it VERY QUICKLY after a while), and from my experience many people either drop out or fail (in my case over 2/3 of Danish students in my year). 3. It also depends MASSIVELY on the teacher (do the teaching methods siut you, is the teacher good at teaching ect.) and if the teacher is a native speaker of the language or not (at my University it is standard practice, that both kinds teach, as both tend to be good at different things). So the difficulty range is somewhere in between "childs play" and "nearly impossible".

[@steveharris1740]

Those are all very accurate statements, and I completely agree. It also depends on how similar the language you are studying is to the language(s) you already know fluently. For a native English speaker, Danish (or any of the Germanic languages really, except for maybe Icelandic or Faroese…I’ve found Norwegian and Swedish to be especially accommodating. German is a little harder because of the grammar, and Danish is a little harder because of the phonetics.) is so much easier to learn than a language like Japanese, Korean, or Arabic.

[@steveharris1740]

But really, any foreign language takes a lot of commitment to learn fluently.

[@juulrob7035]

Currently majoring in Aerospace Engineering (Aeronautics), and yea, it’s extremely difficult, long study hours, but it is very interesting and enjoyable.

[@googlymooglyman]

Honestly I think it should probably be in the same tier as mechanical. They’re nearly the same in content

[@lancercncs1822]

@@googlymooglyman No way. Aerospace Engineering is like mechanical on steroids. More courses to take (including electrical engineering and materials science) and more fluids dynamics and structural analysis classes than ME. ME is AE-lite.

[@joecasale6851]

This stuff heavily depends on the electives you choose. I'm doing a double degree in CS and Math. I could have chosen classes that are somewhat easy (human centered computing, easier/lower level math classes, software engineering classes), or I could choose hard classes such as stochastic processes and statistical machine learning. I could choose to take real analysis II and abstract algebra II, or measure theory. Math certain can be the hardest degree if you choose your classes masochistically.

[@griffinramsdell2209]

As an international politics major that is striving to go to a good law school, it is not an easy task in the slightest. A lot of people equate political science with international relations when they are different majors all together. Government in my opinion is not that hard when you talk about introductory courses, but getting into higher level courses, it becomes a lot more challenging in the sense that it becomes more specific and nuanced. Also, as a Spanish minor, I think that it is also a lot more difficult than what people claim it to be, because the intro courses are not hard at all, but getting into like Spanish Linguistics is not at all easy and takes such a deep understanding of language.

[@nobody1311]

@Redrum Susan every major is a real major

[@nobody1311]

@Redrum Susan they all serve a purpose, it’s just a purpose that you don’t find particularly interesting.

[@tristanlangohr781]

Didn’t expect to find my major in these comments. The amount of nuance to international relations theory and the writing required is crazy.

[@nobody1311]

@Redrum Susan that has nothing to do with the statement that all majors are real majors 💀. Just because you aren’t majoring in engineering or computer science doesn’t mean you aren’t important. Humanities and the arts are just as important as STEM. STEM is how we live, art is why we live. Don’t be so negative about everything.

[@nicobrady1596]

@@nobody1311 yeah, people roll their eyes and make fun of people with degrees in humanities and tell us we wasted our time and money. My dad has a degree in American History and is earning £250k+ a year working as a management consultant lol. In the UK most companies dont care what your degree is, they only care about the grade you got and how intelligent you are. I find people that have humanities degrees to be far smarter than people with business degrees lol

[@maxdresser2526]

Agreed. I'm an accountant with an eponymous degree (MS in Accounting), and while tough in many ways, it wasn't too tough, and the rigor was equally rewarding.

[@cassandrabaignoire1762]

The list is pretty accurate but here are two major items to consider since this is generally circumstantial and subjective (like you said): 1) All professors do NOT grade equally and thus the same subject can vary in rigor from professor to professor. 2) The language and resources needed to optimally succeed in a subject is not always readily available or given. For instance, in a plethora of South Florida institutions, chemistry majors are NOT told that they need to have taken/learned abstract algebra in order to seamlessly get through physical chemistry, hence why, statistically speaking, a slew of former chemistry majors change their majors because they can NOT handle the foreign language of a 4000 level physical chemistry course, in virtue of the class being heavy in abstract algebra; which isn't technically an inability or the fault the student, but more so the disorganization and misinformation of the pre-requisites listed for the physical chemistry curriculum. Another instance is accounting, where a myriad of low-tiered colleges/universities make introductory accounting students endure Cengage; which is LITERALLY doctoral caliber problems/assignments/examinations that NOT even the professors themselves can figure out; and the textbook that comes with the course is OBJECTIVELY quite utterly irrelevant to the Cengage online system, which is agreed upon across the board. The powers that be do NOT care to do anything about the matter, so theoretically, an accounting oriented individual would be incapable of getting through the course unless he/she has a professor that curves and/or finds the formulas from a savant who has cracked the code. Each problem, no joke/lie, across the board, takes over 20 hours to decipher while having a laundry list of problems to tackle.

[@bradenchapnick6379]

Engineering Physics Major here, very underrated major and can confirm difficulty = insane

[@ShaneHummus]

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[@bradenchapnick6379]

@@ShaneHummus You're the first youtuber that I have seen to acknowledge the existance of Engineering Physics it gets brushed over too often lol

[@dankwoffmemes7735]

Liberally every physics major I met studies INSANE stuff in their dorm

[@lorenzo6777]

It is definitely overlooked. What about it makes it underrated in your opinion

[@chr0ne692]

What are the courses like compared to just physics? I always wanted to take engineering physics but my uni doesn't offer it.

[@lincolnknutson7949]

There literally doesn't exist an area of study more vaunted than mathematics, yet you put it into A-tier.

[@kajigeani]

i used to be a pre med student and then switched to comp sci and lemme tell you, that major is def an S tier in difficulty. Comp sci is honestly just on another level when u dive deep into it.

[@ShaneHummus]

I think it's hard for sure, I just don't think it's in S tier at the bachelors level.

[@maxcantos3162]

Definitely, that’s coming from a ChemE major

[@yt_nh9347]

Thats because premed is just memorising data where as comp sci and any engineering actually requires brain use

[@lorenzo6777]

@@ShaneHummus knew someone that did well in chemical engineering but had a very difficult time with the intro to CS course

[@SilentAshGaming]

From my experience, most of the premeds at my college are insanely neurotic while the CS majors are fairly chill. But i’m only a freshman so what do i know lol.

[@peterwilson8039]

As a chemical physics major I took two semesters of organic chem. In the second semester we touched on biological molecules. I found it so fascinating that I considered switching my major into molecular biology. One of things that deterred me was that although I was doing very well in Physics, it seems obvious that there is huge money in anything biomedical, and I was worried I was going to be in for some really fierce competition if I went in that direction. Forty years ago I would have said the smartest people on the planet were working in microelectronics. Today I would say the smartest people are in microbiology.

[@tetricatt4670]

Music as a D is a crime. Ask how a music major is doing and they are constantly stressed. 50+ classes to graduate. Doesn't help that each class is 1 or 2 credit hours. 18 hours for a Music major is about 13 classes in one semester

[@tetricatt4670]

Hope I don't come off as rude. It's just frustrating how our degree gets put down all the time.

[@dominicjackson6857]

It was very frustrating to see that. In order to be actually able to get a good performance job you better be practicing AT LEAST 3 hours every day, plus ensembles with long rehearsals and low credits, concerts, recitals, masterclasses, and attempting to make money through gigs. And you still have to practice over all breaks and, summer, and winter. And then let’s not even talk about injuries from all the playing… But music is subjective right? It’s easy to pass high level music theory classes cause it’s all subjective!!! Meanwhile most people don’t even understand what music theory is or looks like.

[@tetricatt4670]

@@dominicjackson6857 exactly man.

[@KHOiloveromeo]

@@dominicjackson6857Putting it at the same level as Communications is a crime 😒

[@lucassiqueira5522]

I say that chemistry is in tier S, many people think that the course is not so difficult because it has a high school vision, but in fact chemistry is physics, but the part of physics that focuses on the interaction between atoms, molecules and photons, almost the entire course is about quantum mechanics and a lot of thermodynamics, and it involves a lot of calculus.

[@steveharris1740]

I agree. When the courses get advanced enough, Chemistry is Physics, is Math, and vice versa. They become extensions of each other, because really, they are all related. They are all “science”. In turn, these processes explain how more complex ones work, leading into molecular biology, genetics, biochemistry, and physiology, etc. Science is cool.

[@StefSubZero270]

@@steveharris1740 This is true, however even advanced chemistry is not exactly as "deep" as a specialized physics course on that subject. For example, a theoretical chemist and a physcists may have covered more ore less the same topics in doing quantum mechanics, however when it comes to "mathematical depth" the physicist will have seen more, and that is simply because physicists are much more focused on more formal and mathematical precision of topics than others are. Like, as a chemist, you know about quantum mechanics sure, you know what is the basis mathematical framework in which you work in quantum systems, but if i give you a not so straighforward problem which involves special mathematical tools to be solved, a chemist will not be able to do it, simply because mathematical preparation for chemists is i'd say a good deal less than say a physicist. (this is not to criticize chemists, its just how those two different degrees are built) So yeah, from some point on it becomes physics, but a quantum mechanics class in physics degree and a quantum mechanics class in chemistry degree, believe it or not, does not have exactly the same value. The physics one will be more "complete" if you can say, as there is more possibility going in depth in the mathematical framework which entails a bigger and deeper comprehension on the subject

[@rohanbhuckory1297]

plus those insane lab hours

[@Abstractor21]

@@StefSubZero270 it surely doesnt go THAT deep, but it goes deep enough. You get to see the formula derivations and a lot of quantum mechanics. But i think chemistry is not only hard because of this, ITs equally as hard as physics because it also requires you to be really good at memorizing, at lab , and at spatial thinking/reasoning (for organic chemistry and visualazing reactions and the move of electrons) on top of that, there is a lot of math and physics so you need to be good at math. It just simply requires too many skillsets + labs and lab reports are time consuming and are very exahusting.

[@StefSubZero270]

@@Abstractor21 Yep, although you really see those things the further you go with studies, in a bach degree in chemistry you are not gonna see much mathematics and physics, at least relative to a physics or math degree

[@user-pr8ex7vf6n]

Why is math always so underestimated? I suggest you take a course in advanced homological algebra and then try to tell me how QFT is still more difficult

[@bambihouston5522]

I'm a double major in Political Science/Criminology with a minor in Pre law while I am enjoying the classes, and enthralled with the content I do agree out of the 3 Prelaw is the most challenging.

[@OVERLORDCLOWN]

Hello there. I'm still a student deciding to do political science. I'm deciding whether i should get a bachelor's degree or master. I also was interested in criminology. But decided against. So the main question is how were the classes and was it worth it?

[@social191]

I would study neither. Political Science is super boring and there aren’t any jobs available for criminology graduates.

[@n8likesmath]

He must've made so many of these videos but Im still gonna watch every single one 😂😂😂

[@mgminthantaung1363]

Thank you very much for this video. That's brand new tier list video 🌟. Love this 💖

[@ShaneHummus]

This one is gonna be spicy I can already tell

[@shuatock8216]

You should make a separate tier for musical performance majors. I promise it’s an S tier with ease. There’s a huge difference between being a pop singer and a classical violinist, let me tell you. In fact, getting your degree almost feels like a competition

[@natehurstmusic2753]

Thank you! When I saw that he put music as D tier that was frustrating.

[@Rwasup123]

Was a violinist at a top conservatory and later became a computer scientist. I would say that musical performance makes it to High B tier, maybe low A tier with all the difficulties added in since the concepts are hard but less difficult to grasp than theoretical majors. The practicing of 8-10 hours a day was grueling but more about perseverance in my opinion, same with the competition with classmates and often demanding/condescending professors. I would have put computer science into S tier if you started accounting for advanced algorithms classes, but at the bachelor level A seems appropriate. I never hit a situation in music where for it took whole weeks of overwhelming frustration and studying my ass off to even begin to understand the elementary concepts in some tough algorithms.

[@shuatock8216]

@@Rwasup123 you make a really good point there. Whether it’s easy or hard though, the depression rates must say something about how difficult it at least “feels”. I guess it’s worth noting that getting the degree isn’t actually the real difficulty, it’s about making your degree as standout. The degree comes with the pressure of needing to win a big competition and what not. So in some ways, the major is tough, but the degree is not as much so

[@Wtyandell]

Right? Just a wildly incorrect rating at D tier.

[@imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266]

Music majors on their way recording themselves playing an instrument when they remember an assignments due in 20 minutes

[@rorschach775]

I have a computer science, art, and a psychology degree. I feel like all the art degrees that you listed as "going to take a lot of time", where you are trying to master a skill, are probably harder than the social science and business degrees. You can passively learn most social science and business information by sitting and listening. If you pay attention in class you already get enough information to pass. Art degrees you have to spend like 10 hours a day practicing outside of class to get a good grade. And all those majors, the low end is pretty forgiving.

[@ShaneHummus]

Solid points!

[@alienboogieman]

Not everyone learns the same which is why it's subjective.

[@PeteFredrickson]

Agree that's why I think music should've been C tier

[@Rwasup123]

100% agree with this - have degrees in violin performance, finance, and computer science at top programs and finance and accounting should be C and D tier respectively imo.

[@jong7100]

@@PeteFredrickson have you tried a music degree? They have you take a ton of 3 hour classes for 1 credit hour each. Far from a C tier level.

[@lilysticha7564]

For physics majors being borderline geniuses, physics can surely make you FEEL like you're dumb af.

[@RamZyWorks]

I could sit here and type about how funny it is reading how every one of you are taking the hardest classes on earth, but instead I'd like to thank you because there's no way I'd waste my money or time doing any of that. Without you guys I, a union semiconductor pipefitter, wouldn't have a job. Good luck on your careers and happy Thanksgiving!

[@sethgaston8347]

*spend your money It’s only a waste if it gets you nothing i.e you drop out

[@jeffmora5161]

Also should be grateful that these people are taking the harder classes that actually get you somewhere. It’s a waste of money if you get any of the C tier or lower degrees

[@plugshirt1762]

@@jeffmora5161 bruh the C tier and below degrees aren't a waste of money lol. I took political science and make a ton of money as a lawyer as well as the majority of those can secure you with a job.

[@aliaisaacs6591]

I can no longer keep track of all the shade I get from friends in other Engineering faculties about doing "Engineering Lite" / Civil Engineering. To them I say, I'm happy for you, that you choose suffering😚😂 I think it also has a lot to do with your natural inclinations as well. I was always very afraid of gears, moving parts, anything mechanical really, and so I struggled to overcome that in earlier Applied Mathematics modules we shared with Mechanical Engineering for example.

[@pickle1339]

As someone who’s done both political science and education courses I’d say it’s kinda wild you put political science that high. They are relatively similar in difficulty.

[@1Raunchy]

I think MIS is a good major for me, for the fact that I like business and I want to also know a little about computer science. I think it’s one of those majors that leads you into a possible future proof career that may not go anywhere .

[@ShaneHummus]

MIS is awesome.

[@spinzbydagamer111]

@@ShaneHummuswhy did u rank mechanical engineering lower than aerospace?

[@rogerkyubwa8621]

Thinking of getting into a double major in Finance & CS but one thing holding me back is the difficulty in CS especially Calculus 💀 so overall I was thinking of MIS, but I still want to learn how to code so any advice on this would help.

[@nayjer2576]

if you want to learn how to code don't study cs. It has science in it's name, not engineering or application.

[@YahwehEloh]

Calcus is childs play

[@lilquacker4907]

Music and art are very hard imo you have to devote everything to it, just the people tending to do music already love it so it’s a labor of love

[@Unknownsacrifis]

Political Science doesn't have a rigouris workload but a lot of people struggle to actually grasp how to write a paper for political science as opposed to other argumentative papers. It's not terribly hard to learn but the time you have to put into researching topics and finding ways to define and measure abstract variables becomes increasingly difficult as you progress

[@christianbolt5761]

I got a BS in physics and one in mathematics along with many in chemistry and biology. I saw the largest number of people quitting physics of these four majors by far. Started with 20-40 majors and ended with about 5

[@Lamestreet1]

Education is a really tough one to rank because It depends on what age range your going into. Early education and Middle level education are easy but secondary education can get very challenging. The reason we dont have physics teachers is for this reason, you basically have to juggle doing the hours of just busywork thats educaiton, then you have to do physics aswell. At my school SEC ED physics teachers have to take up to 400 level physics courses thats about 75 80% of just a physics major to just teach it in highschool, with the time crunch that is education homework I would honestly say its one of the hardest majors you can take. Its super tough to rank because specialties like SEC ED physics are just striaghtup S tier while elementary educaiton is F tier, so for that reason Id just leave it in the middle say its C tier.

[@kfoxxxx]

I also have degrees in Math and Physics. Both were challenging but the content was complementary. Often, concepts were introduced in Math courses, and then fully developed in the Physics courses. If I were to do the double major again, I would plan for 5 years. I would do a year of Math courses and then start the Physics coursework one year later. This would have given me a better toolkit to address the concepts introduced in the Physics courses.

[@carloscastor1223]

Although physics has very difficult courses, you can get a bachelor of arts in physics in many universities, giving you access to extremely easy courses to finish the degree. Unlike any engineering discipline, where a BA doesn't really exist.

[@ymi_yugy3133]

I've switched from math to computer science. If CS is in A tier, math needs to be in S++. It's not even close.

[@plainbagel9192]

Majoring in marketing , I can say it's pretty accurate compared to say those in Finance, Accounting, Business Intellenge. It's concept theory heavy with a little bit of stats involved ( which I seem to be okay with )

[@DivinelyProtectedBlessed888]

I don't have no one that help me with career decision but thank you you illuminates me so much

[@TheCoconutBlues]

Haven’t watched the video yet, but I assume the S tier majors will be Aerospace Engineering, Chemical Engineering, Math, and Physics.

[@ShaneHummus]

Close

[@Whytheads]

I lowkey think he dropped this list to roast people who tell others their classes are tough, but just end up watching movies all day 😂 All jokes aside I'd love to see a longer version of this video! Btw majoring in computer engineering and minoring in math and computer science, love your vids, keep up the great work!

[@MMDGabriel]

Exactly, you can see some of them are angry down here in the comment section 😂 it's hilarious.

[@augustusb3501]

Excellent commentary 👌🏾

[@stephenlambros3286]

Undergraduate double major in Creative Writing and Film Studies here. I agree with your assessment that the Creative Writing degree ( 3:50 ) is F-tier in terms of difficulty. What’s not easy, however, is writing strong work, and navigating the industry, which is what a good program will prepare you for. It’s a degree you need to pursue for the right reasons; in other words, don’t use it as an ‘easy degree.’ Use your experience in that program to learn how to write better, and to meet fellow writers you can network with. And if you want a Creative Writing degree and have an opportunity to double major, do it. Not only will you gain knowledge in an outside subject that you can use in your writing, but the challenge of a double major will show employers that you’re willing to take on a substantial quantity of work in pursuit of a goal.

[@DonnaMiller]

It would be neat to see how difficult the degree is verses pay.

[@coltonharris4372]

Lot of comments saying CS is S tier. As a computer engineering major with lots of overlapping classes, I generally agree. However any CS major will tell you that Computer Engineering is way harder with lots of engineering and physics requirements on top of most of the harder CS courses. Not sure if either major is truly S tier, but if CS is then CE certainly is as well

[@JohnClinger1]

Depends on the school. 10-15 years back, CE undergrad at my school was nearly identical to EE until senior year where they diverged in senior electives and senior design class. So separating the two out in our ECE department was kind of pointless honestly.

[@MpHauzel_Kishibe23]

As a guy who did EEE(electrical and electronics engineering), i gotta admit you hit the jackpot when you said it's almost all theory, and it gets very monotonous and boring soon, even when someone is interested in it hence why there probably is a high failure rate and lots of work to be done, but might i also add that funnily enough, everyone in my class always got A or above in Practical classes and very few, sometimes no one would fail, so all in all throughout my course of EEE it was a lot of work and long hours of studying and losing faith in humanity but it was worth it in the end, cause you get really good ROI

[@change5450]

hey how was EE and how’ll u rank the difficulty of of 1-10😅?

[@whateverprecisely]

Explaining the stats and reasoning behind your decisions would make the video much more interesting

[@ayrtunbuckley2393]

it would also be about 3 hours long and take him several days to collect all that data

[@BigGhanaChannel]

Can you do an updated video on exercise science degrees and careers? Such as their worth.

[@ShaneHummus]

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[@rtrt0789]

If you're going to do "difficulty", at least clarify if you're talking about learning the theory or about workload and homework I am a math major with physics and CS minor and i love the theoretical challenge it gives me Because of that, i think medicine and aerospace engineering are a cake walk However, i'm a very abstract and lazy guy, so even tho the theory is easy, the ammount of work in medicine would just be absurd for me because it would be extremely boring So i think you could split the video into two types of difficulty, it's kinda awkward seeing engineering has "harder" than math

[@aeroz2804]

I double majored in Accounting and Finance. Accounting can be hard but the math is rather easy, it's the concepts combined with it that tends to trip people up. I found finance to be much more math heavy but still nothing as severe as engineering. I think cal 2 was the highest math course I took. Intermediate acct 1 and 2 will make you suffer though.

[@ShaneHummus]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Lazymath007_]

Its not the maths that make accounting hard, its the concept. I think finance will be good for me since i like maths. What kind of maths is in finance? And how math heavy is it?

[@killitboi2786]

@@ShaneHummus sorry Shane but mathematics should be in S tier, please remake this video with some explanations as well. I would also arguably put chemistry in S tier, especially upper level organic and thermo classes.

[@aeroz2804]

@@Lazymath007_ I'd say middle of the road difficulty math wise. In finance you cover topics like CAPM, portfolio management, capital budgeting, time value of money calculations, etc. most of which can be done on a financial calculator.

[@unknownwarrior5672]

Finance gets tricky once you get into investments and leverage. Also Security Analysis

[@peabrane8067]

Any list that puts mathematics as anything but the hardest major is automatically invalid

[@poteimiameso4455]

I majored in Marketing, Operations and Statistics. Like humanities, languages and social sciences, marketing is not hard to understand but harder to get As than statistics, because 1. marketing is qualitative 15 years ago and hence the grade is subjective; 2. the subjective nature requires an understanding of the taste of professors. It's hard to know their taste in all classes; 3. group projects depend on peer performance. It's hard to get stellar team in every class. I ended up taking all required marketing classes when I went exchange. All the classes taken during exchange program are graded pass or fail. On the other hand, I was taking all statistics classes in my home schools to brush my grades. Although it takes much longer to study, the projects are more objective. It's easier to get As.

[@ShaneHummus]

Great points!

[@cheesypoofs6256]

Marketing was my easy A class. Don’t you just end up doing all the work in group projects? The tools were cool like the Nielsen ratings by zip code where they profiled and gave a summary of people. It was fun to read all the profiles.

[@poteimiameso4455]

@@cheesypoofs6256 😅My school curve it, less than 15% gets A... So marketing is to beat the competitors...

[@jonathanjohnson2380]

As a bio major I would personally consider nuclear engineering and chemistry to be harder than biology at most universities, also putting premed into the same tier as the rest of the core stem classes is a little redundant, as it would be harder to get a 4.0 in bio then just passing the classes.

[@voicesinhead3577]

Mechatronics Engineer here. That shit was hard af and it sounded good and fun at first then BOOM! You taking 3 majors at once.

[@RIfMlLVrdhpPYbHCcTqjnEFGgNyKku]

Pre-Dent classes were a cakewalk after going through Mechanical Engineering. Sure you have to get As in everything, but that was pretty easy

[@blair4961]

In Germnay an education degree can also be really hard when you want to become an physics or math teacher. You have to do same exam with the students who study physik or math. But teachers in Germany get paud pretty well compared to the US

[@danieldemicco783]

It's a bit of a misconception that all teachers are paid poorly in the USA. There are many poorly paid teachers in the US but it's really state/ city dependent as schools are largely financed at the state/ city level. For example in some cities in my state of Massachusetts, public school teachers can make over $100,000 a year, while in Texas a teacher might start at a near poverty line level of pay.

[@Ljbipp8iuj]

Thats the reason why there are no math teachers here

[@casualcal6799]

Was a math major and agree with this. The physics and engineer majors were always swamped at my school.

[@ShaneHummus]

Yeah it's pretty easy to see who is the most stressed/working the hardest around finals times.

[@zigzagnemesist5074]

@@ShaneHummus Shane I’m honestly shocked at how Mathematics is not S tier. I would even go as far as to say that pure mathematics is in a tier of its own. No engineering or scientific discipline even comes close to the level of abstraction and rigour in upper level pure mathematics courses. Mathematics is definitely the hardest degree and I would like to see you do another video on this where you explain in more depth the reasoning.

[@Keralasha444]

@@zigzagnemesist5074 Ok that’s your opinion

[@zigzagnemesist5074]

@@Keralasha444 no it’s facts, anyone involved in STEM at a higher level knows this.

[@muuubiee]

@@ShaneHummus Who's stressed and works hardest around finals tells you nothing... They may have just slacked because the courses allow for last minute prep.

[@halbrown7121]

Went through Engineering Physics, which was an optional path in electrical engineering. Great Program. Took many of the electrical engineering courses as well.

[@tomlittwin]

Music is way harder than D tier. It should probably be in A tier. There is more to it than just practicing your instrument. Music theory is difficult for a lot of people and you need to have a good understanding of mathematics to understand it. Also ear training and sight singing are very difficult skills to learn. If you don’t already play a keyboard instrument you have to become proficient at piano. Music technology also requires you to have a basic understanding of technology and computer programming. You have little free time between classes, lessons, practicing, and ensembles. You also have to pass juries every semester which can be very stressful.

[@comradeedwin1006]

Can you do a video on engineering physics, please?

[@ShaneHummus]

I almost certainly will make content about that in the near future.

[@highjack7517]

Marketing and nursing major here and it’s not “pretty easy”. I can tell you from experience nursing is much more difficult than marketing. Borderline A tier. While I’ll say the information is not as challenging to learn as say biology the amount of time spent studying, preparing for clinicals, and general stress level is high. Don’t think nursing is cake walk if you’re going to go into it please.

[@georgyzhukov6409]

Marketing has a higher pay ceiling

[@dustingibson4087]

Just my experience... Though Math was my degree in college, I have went through an arts HS with 4 years of collegiate level Creative Writing. I barely passed. I almost got kicked out of the program completely twice. It was definitely a lot harder than my Math coursework. It's not like you write a short story or play, turn it in, and pass if you beat the word count. Being able to criticize and analyze texts was a huge part of the program, probably about half of everything. You will have to read constantly, which is something I personally struggled with. Easily up to 50 pages a day of just reading. Then going in reverse: taking what you learned from analysis and criticism to apply to your own work is another deal. The subjectivity actually makes it harder not easier. A lot of folks get a low grade sometimes non-passing if for example your work is too trite and doesn't do anything interesting. Trying to do that while getting 5K+ on a page was unbearably difficult for me. Poetry is another big bag of worms. But of course this will vary from person to person.

[@hammoudkadamani1229]

Is management information systems the same as business information systems? Awesome vid😃

[@jonahmcclaine1635]

MIS --The processes organizations use to analyze the organization’s operations and determine efficiency. It focuses on data management, and on data structures and reporting of key metrics required for management decisions. BIS -- The application of IS technology for focused decision support

[@jonahmcclaine1635]

reporting, usually as a subset of activities under MIS.

[@isaak3680]

For those considering CS, if you’re reasonably competent with math, the courses you really need to worry about are Computer Organization/Architecture, Algorithms, Programming Languages, and Operating Systems.

[@josiahademiluyi4677]

If you don’t mind me asking, is it okay to go into it without any prior knowledge because you’re interested in it?

[@jeremiahm1413]

Electrical engineering takes its rightful place in the S-tier again! Yep, I'll vouch for that rating: it ain't for the faint-hearted, and boy, does it open up the "I need a job" doors (with experience such as an internship orCO-OP program on your resume while you were getting your bachelor's).

[@ShaneHummus]

It's crazy hard.

[@navinadv]

@@ShaneHummus I was expecting the engineering degrees to be between B and D tier. I am an EE (‘86) and don’t remember it being that hard. Medicine and Law are definitely harder in the sheer grunt time one needs to put in to memorise all the terminology and case laws. The Physics and Mathematics related degrees do not require mountains of memorisation. If you have a handle on the basic concepts you can derive the equations.

[@alexoverdiek8899]

@@navinadv imagine thinking memorising stuff can be as hard as understanding stuff

[@navinadv]

@@alexoverdiek8899 yeah we are all wired differently. Maths and Physics come naturally to some, Literature and Philosophy come naturally to some, and Music and Art come naturally to others. In the end, it doesn't matter; I only see job opportunities in Computer Science and related fields.

[@zigzagnemesist5074]

@@ShaneHummus how can you rank electrical engineering above mathematics? The main reason EE is hard is because of the complex mathematical content in it.

[@User_2051]

Id agree with this, i majored in accounting and its really not that hard imo, people think you have to be good at math but the calculator does everything and its only addition, subtractions basics

[@charlotteforbes2090]

I love your video! As someone who’s majored in lots of things, including physics, astrophysics, English, accounting, finance, economics, sociology math … math is S tier! You can easily fail out of math if you’re not hyper focused but that’s just my $0.02. Proofs are no joke. Math is also far, far harder than biology. But others have noted same

[@dac8939]

I did chemical engineering and math dual and math was harder. Math is certainly S tier.

[@gunshow7425]

Should have separated mathematics into applied math and pure math. I would put applied math in A tier and pure math in S tier.

[@Mottleydude1]

I did a biology degree on a pre-med track. It was very hard. It’s the competitiveness that kills you. It’s already a hard major but to get into grad school you need a 3.4 or better. I managed to get into grad school with a 3.0 but that was largely due to I scored very high on MCAT exam and I took way more liberal arts and social sciences than was required and that, believe it or not, helped too.

[@mrlebby_6610]

Econ major here. Agree with your B tier rating but most people will pair it with a minor. I’m doing stats and I would say that pairing is A tier

[@erniesings6855]

I was a math major... not S tier? Try taking abstract algebra and real analysis.

[@musicmachine2395]

Im taking Real Analysis next semester. Not looking forward to it 😅

[@darealpoopster]

Yes? I took both as a physics major

[@propoop6991]

ik man fuck finitely generated torsion modules over principal ideal domains😭😭

[@Luihtz]

Real anal was my first semester module..

[@manofsteel9051]

Yip and those aren't even the most difficult. There's also stuff like algebraic topology, category theory, differential geometry, complex analysis etc. Pure math is in a league of its own

[@Prodigy10044]

I would definitley rank MIS much lower than that honestly. Everyone I know who majored in MIS is always having fun, barley any stress

[@jonahmcclaine1635]

I’m thinking about majoring in MIS so this puts a smile on my face

[@ericcarson342]

Econ is an odd ball. Kind of does straddle A and B tier. Accounting is definitely more practical if you want a job right out of college, they are highly marketable. Graduate level econ would definitely rival graduate engineering in terms of difficulty and rigor.