College Vs Skilled Trade

[@jasonmarroking4357]

I don’t know what to do with my life ..

[@VermHat]

I definitely feel like Trades are making a come back; at least from an economical perspective. Tradesmen are coming out of apprentices with money in the bank and college graduates with student loan debt. I know doctors who live in shitty apartments because they are in so much debt. People don't realize just how risky going into debt can be; also how much they will eventually have to pay because they don't understand compounding interest.

[@charndeepbhangoo7556]

Trades are physically demanding and leaves many with early onset arthritis, joint pain, and destroyed bodies in their 40s and 50s. Student debt doesn't seem so bad in retrospect.

[@Doritos-ik5eu]

@@charndeepbhangoo7556Except you don't have to work there forever. You are better off joining the trades as soon as you can and then paying off college through tradesmen work as opposed to going to college without a plan.

[@eks_0]

IBEW electricians has lots of benefits

[@ColeBug8]

X yes sir

[@twiggs0]

Union bennies baby, IBEW is the way.

[@julianvera2036]

I mean not all trade alumni work in dirty work environments trade schools also include culinary and cosmetology

[@rhythmandacoustics]

This should be not between College vs Skilled Trade. If one should make a decision it is should be White Collar work vs Blue Collar work. Not all college graduate work in the office, some of them work in a laboratory and do experiments. Also College can also be very technical, that is why you have engineers, doctors, and accountants. Some of the points in this video like working environment such as whether the place is dirty or not depends on the industry. A technician who works in the medical field for example works in a very clean place. Also pay is very variable, some skilled trade makes more than administrative clerks and so on. The main question is just whether you like working with your hands vs working with a computer.

[@Fosellar]

What I learned from this video is there everyone and everything is different. /jk Well made comparison video man :)

[@emandujano63]

So why did you choose skilled trade? Do you regret your decision

[@brianhogan433]

Happy Thanksgiving

[@emandujano63]

Hey Sam, would an associates in business management help with contracting when I’m ready for it? I know that if your a good electrician that doesn’t make you a good businessman.

[@Doritos-ik5eu]

No it wouldn't. Business is common sense and there is an aid and unit limit to what you can study in college so make the best use of it if you truly want it. The best CEOs are engineers while not everyone is fit for engineering. They all study topics that would help make their product and sell it as opposed to listening to "My Porter's Five Forces" and basic Bookkeeping skills that can be taught online.

[@Lightstrike3]

I’m currently in community college, so I’ve been lucky enough to not loan yet and pay out of pocket. It’s going to be my 3rd year cuz I’m taking this spring off cuz of personal reasons. After this when I hit university I would have to loan. I’ve been thinking about the trades in the electrician area. They both interest me but I always hear about how an individual needs to have thick skin in the trades. I don’t know exactly what I want to do 100% so after I finish community, I’ll put university or trade school on standby. Do you have to go to trade school to be an electrician, or just be an apprentice? If you go to trade school do you still have to take an apprenticeship?

[@VermHat]

I have no background in the trades; however, I would recommend you try out the trades before you commit to debt/college. The reason being is you aren't risking much if you do an apprenticeship and it turns out you don't like it. You could do an apprenticeship for 1-12 months, not like it, and go back to college. With college, you are stuck with the bill even if you end up not liking it or fail to get a job. Don't bother with trade school, just apply to local shops that are looking for apprentices. They will take on almost anyone who has the right attitude and does the interview right.

[@somebody7844]

No, it is not necessary, but finding a contractor (union or not) to accept you as an apprentice would be your own 'challenge'. Unionized contractors will automatically require you to attend some type of schooling either before you start working or after you start working, after the shift.

[@johnsmith6974]

Top five problems killing Trades. Number one licenses. Getting a license means you work for some jerk for 2 to 4 years making peanuts so that you can finally take a test to get a license so you can go into business for yourself, however multiple people have beat you to the punch. Number two wages. Wages to learn a trade are pathetic depending where in the country you live. Most of the time learning the trade is for kids not people looking into for a career change. Most of the time the pay again is peanuts for the first few years. Number three unions. Trade unions were once a way to help kids who couldn't put together a sandwich to later become masters in the trade. However unions now seem more about having lavish buildings and hand picking candidates as favors to union members. Don't forget that your union card isn't worth shit in the south. Number four old farts that won't share their experiences or tricks to the trade. All the time I hear. "I'm gonna retire and take the secrets with me." Or "If I show them my tricks I'll be layed off" or the best one. "No one showed me how to do it I had to figure it out!" Number five trade school. Go to Trade school and learn jack shit and mostly read books or write about the trade. You'll begin to wonder if you study so much to use your hands without using your hand because all the projects are on paper you begin to think. "I guess they are training me to be an engineer." So to be honest the reason people hate the trades is for the following reasons. How do I know because I worked hard to be an electrician and now want to be and electrical engineer.

[@carto8024]

Can you really make $50 an hour as an electrician in Vegas? Or was that a hyperbole?

[@somebody7844]

Anywhere with a high concentration of people, 50 is usually the unionized journeyman base pay, (4-5 year apprenticeships, usually starting out at 20 something for the first year). Then there's benefits and such that add on with most unions, so the whole package is about 90 per hour

[@carto8024]

yooo boi damn I had no idea you could make that much money working as an electrician in the city. It’s got to be a pretty busy job though, right? Usually 40+ hours a week?

[@somebody7844]

@@carto8024 there will most likely be overtime, which is 1.5 times the rate and twice on weekends n holidays. I speak from seeing in nyc. That's just local 3. If you work electrical in mass transit, you'll definitely make 100k+ a year too.

[@carto8024]

@@somebody7844 doesn't sound like a bad gig. I'm in college right now and am not sure if it is the right move for me. I know that trades are making a comeback and I have an uncle that is an electrician, so I was considering that as an option for something other than college.

[@somebody7844]

@@carto8024 I'd do both, and in fact I'm doing both myself. Went to a vocational high school, and applied for the sheet metal union the week after I graduated. The process for this local takes a year, so I enrolled in college for mechanical engineering in the mean time. Took the union entrance exam for the pre-apprenticeship, and passed, now I'm just waiting on what class they decide to put me in sometime later this year. When I get in, I'll most likely take a gap semester just to get situated, and obviously go back on their dime. You might be able to receive college credit in a union school as well, the electrical local here supposedly grants 60 credits (not sure it seems fishy, but definitely 15 to 20 credits towards a similar major). In this economy, it's pertinent that you have multiple options at bay, so try to learn everything you can in the trades and university. You can start by getting your OSHA 30 Hour in Construction Safety and Health, (many jurisdictions are raising entrance to jobsites for entry level workers from 10 to 30).

[@joelm5933]

Everything he is talking about is sorta wrong

[@trustudy6083]

Um how?? ? Elaborate please I need help with this topic 🤔🤔

[@joelm5933]

I wrote this 2 weeks ago I forgot what I was thinking... I would need to rewatch the vid but I’m not

[@somebody7844]

@@trustudy6083 parable of blind men and a elephant, Google that. I think that's what he means, and I agree in some manner

[@johnsmith6974]

Top five problems killing Trades. Number one licenses. Getting a license means you work for some jerk for 2 to 4 years making peanuts so that you can finally take a test to get a license so you can go into business for yourself, however multiple people have beat you to the punch. Number two wages. Wages to learn a trade are pathetic depending where in the country you live. Most of the time learning the trade is for kids not people looking into for a career change. Most of the time the pay again is peanuts for the first few years. Number three unions. Trade unions were once a way to help kids who couldn't put together a sandwich to later become masters in the trade. However unions now seem more about having lavish buildings and hand picking candidates as favors to union members. Don't forget that your union card isn't worth shit in the south. Number four old farts that won't share their experiences or tricks to the trade. All the time I hear. "I'm gonna retire and take the secrets with me." Or "If I show them my tricks I'll be layed off" or the best one. "No one showed me how to do it I had to figure it out!" Number five trade school. Go to Trade school and learn jack shit and mostly read books or write about the trade. You'll begin to wonder if you study so much to use your hands without using your hand because all the projects are on paper you begin to think. "I guess they are training me to be an engineer." So to be honest the reason people hate the trades is for the following reasons. How do I know because I worked hard to be an electrician and now want to be and electrical engineer. Go to college

[@Quick--]

So even if i drop out of college i still have to read and write?