Anarchy Round 2! Rocha/Murrell VS Kalinowski/Ellison - Movie Trivia Schmoedown

[@ColliderLadiesNight]

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[@darthradious7011]

Liked the match, hated the final ruling.

[@89ludeawakening1]

Yeah that ruling was BS! The match should've been one point for each team. Chance didn't spell the name correctly.

[@perrygray1000]

Refuse to renew my patreon until u guys have consistent rulings

[@rmredjack]

Can we please figure out the damn rules of this game?

[@jupiler]

Get your sh*t straight guys, it's getting really ridiculous with these rulings.

[@1united4ever]

That interview is what this game is all about! Two legends of the game showing the passion and the love that we fans have

[@tyc7094]

Besides the ruling I feel being incorrect, I think Sudden Death rules for TEAM competition should be revised. It should still continue as whoever misses first losses, however, they should have one single answer, together, as a TEAM, otherwise it’s essentially a singles competition and negates everything that came before to me.

[@imoutotrash390]

I'm with you it should be like an iron man match

[@paulgibbons1366]

Agree

[@maatimoobi8133]

Yeah I completely agree. Like Noah says like iron man match

[@moritzow-ld9300]

absolutely

[@chrislamb6105]

Tweet this to Kristian Tyler. Totally agree.

[@pabloab7033]

You gotta respect Rocha and Dan for the passion and love they put into the schmoedown

[@UnparalleledUniverse]

Dan and Rocha need to be a full time team. I love how serious both of them take this whole thing. Rocha is the perfect balance of character and competitor. I love how he flipped mid sentence from disappointed to super pissed haha. They did get robbed on the Russell thing but hopefully the FF don't get too discouraged that they don't come back.

[@moritzow-ld9300]

MAJOR respect to Rocha for the passion MAJOR respect to Dan for the honesty MAJOR respect to Chance for the answers MAJOR respect to Mike for the character MAJOR respect to Ellis for the decision MAJOR respect to Kristian for this game MAJOR respect to Jenn for the love Great work from all regardless... tough decisions had to be made. Two things I saw proposed by others: 1 JTE for every team in the case of SD and teams can confer and give one answer together in SD

[@agostinimedia]

One of the greatest matches ever in Schmoedown.

[@perrygray1000]

Not with that ruling

[@antuanlemon484]

Instant classic

[@timstabletoptime6708]

Agreed, if the brackets had shaken out differently this could/would have been the final round

[@Ben1159a]

Great Match, horrible ending. Collider gave the match to Korruption no question. O. Russell and O'Russel are completely different names. One point should have been awarded to each team and another question asked. The Schmoedown was just about lost any shred of credibility it had.

[@linusbabcock8724]

I think this is match of the year right here

[@nedmusic1494]

Definitely the most controversial ending to a game

[@brianmacdonald8478]

One of the best matches this season!

[@kiralante2199]

a surefire match of the year candidate right there!

[@CookingWithMara]

A top 5 best match of all time and THE most passionate match of all the.

[@MrMoskyz]

DAMN, that ending

[@thescreengeek8915]

and in the end the real mvp is Jenn Sterger

[@jscott4reel]

The ScreenGeek agreed!

[@diamondrattler7453]

She is so bomb

[@mulcahytj]

Rocha, Murrell, Napzok and KO all in one episode? Hot damn! Go Founding Fathers!

[@Mrerwinpoy]

Rocha and Dan! Read this! You are the pillars of the game. What happened here does not take away anything feom your greatness. One of the reasons why we are supporting the Schmoedown is because we want to see you OGs react with the New Blood and it's just a perfect mix. Keep the desire burning! More schmoedown matches from you guys please. Congrats to KOrruption for winning from the Titans.

[@disclaimin]

Rocha isn't even one of my favorite competitors, but he's correct in saying that decision was staggeringly bad. Neither Murrell nor Ellison should have received a point. The difference between "O. Russell" and "O'Russell" isn't simply punctuation, as Mark tried reducing it to, but of a middle name + last name or one full last name. It's major. I'd also go as far as to say he's correct about the white boards' purpose. They're to prevent cheating. If someone answers first, they couldn't have cheated. It's a technicality that ignores the spirit of the boards' implementation in the first place, and when matches are decided by things like that, rather than tests of knowledge or skill, then the Schmoedown becomes a lot less fun.

[@x-Bailey17-x]

The white board isn't just to prevent copying, it's to show you answered the question in the allotted time. Hypothetically, somebody could think of the right answer in the short time between the buzzer going and being asked to show their board.

[@paulgibbons1366]

As long as they've started writing they should be allowed to finish, you aren't punished for an oral round if you spurt out a remembered answer with a second to go.

[@kingofurukgilgamesh7828]

Murrell didn't write fast enough and Ellison didn't know how to spell the name. Those are not related to movie knowledge. I think they should stop with the overly serious rules and just award the point if the contestant knows the answer. Murrell clearly knew the answer, Ellison clearly knew the answer, give them points. That's my personal opinion. I never liked the "rules for the sake of rules" mentality.

[@chrislamb6105]

The problem is spelling does matter in many situations. Something where there’s an added consonant that changes the word entirely. If you aren’t the first one to answer then you can just say it how everyone else is. They just need to be more specific about what counts in spelling. Although i think it’s fine they just didn’t follow their own rules. David Russel (which wouldve been accepted) isn’t the same as David O’russel. If you’re going to be strict on Dan be strict with Chance.

[@rebasmith7471]

@@paulgibbons1366 that's a good point

[@Itss-JJ]

Seeing the passion at the end there was beautiful . That’s why I am a fan of both of those legends! As for the decision, I get why it was made, but I also understand why Rocha is so pissed. I think it was a very hard decision to make and I am just bummed this is how The Founding Fathers went out. I hope to see them return as a team one day. 🖐🏻

[@joeyj2j]

Can the Collider crew all have a movie night and watch remember the Titans? Hah

[@ChrisWoodburn83]

Yeah it's a great movie

[@jays4402]

Hahaha Sam, Drew, Dan and Rocha should do a commentary of it

[@TheOnlyIchiban]

Funny how nobody remembers Remember the Titans lol

[@niallh4194]

As long as it is not on scener. I want to watch the commentaries but can't because the Irish netflix does not have a lot of the films they do. Or at least do it in podcast form also.

[@topher804]

Rocha and Dan are the backbone to this league. Without them i wouldn't even be watching! Thanks for the memories can't wait to see you two back in action.

[@kylearango8648]

If anyone in here is criticizing or making fun of these competitors then just go ahead and leave. You can see these guys put their heart into this for us. Great match with a controversial ending. They will be back

[@PurpleandGold615]

The ruling on David O. Russell is bullshit. The mans full name is David Owen Russell. O'Russell is a completely different last name. You cant call it semantics because its obvious Chance believed the guys last name is O'Russell and that the O isnt his middle name. Completely wrong ruling in my opinion. As for the Murrell response that was definitely the right ruling because he didnt write the name down in time.

[@CMShuckle]

PurpleandGold I think the real issue here is what was Rocha’s actual challenge. He can’t challenge that Dan, who admitted that what he wrote was not David O. Russell, should have counted AND that Chance’s answer was incorrect as O’Russel, as those are two separate challengeable issues. From what I saw before the cutaway, Rocha was challenging that Dan’s answer was acceptable and that seemed to be the consensus as that is what was discussed by Harloff and Ellis when they came back. If Rocha’s challenged was denied, which it was, then he does not get another challenge to call out Chance. Had Rocha let Dan’s answer go and only challenge Chance’s answer then he’d have had a better shot.

[@MirrorAshes]

This is my take too, tough luck for Dan but those rules aren’t new, and if they are so important, spelling a guy’s name right ought to be equally strict. That wasn’t actually phonetically correct, more like coincidentally correct. David O’Russell has different emphasizes entirely.

[@mandalore4ever690]

PurpleandGold 100% agree. They need new comissioner/judges.

[@ThomasDailey]

Sounded to me like the rules are that spelling/punctuation isn't important so long as what is written can be pronounced as the correct answer. Based on that I think most would pronounce O'Russell the same as O. Russell. This is basically the same rules as Final Jeopardy. The main difference being on Final Jeopardy the host, Alex says the answers aloud. It's not up to the contestants to verbally give the correct pronunciation. It's based on what they've written which ensures a level playing field. Another difference is on Final Jeopardy you are given 30 seconds to answer. I believe here it's like 15 seconds. I'd be curious how Jeopardy would rule in this instance. I'd think they'd accept O'Russell as correct. Especially if they are going to accept O Russell which lacks the correct punctuation.

[@lewisreeves9843]

Rocha and Murrell is a right bromance so much respect

[@mattie5106]

I think that's the best team performance I've ever seen. Every card was stacked against Founding Fathers and the fact they took it as far as they did shows Rocha and Murrell are the two greatest of all time. All the belts, all the records, go destroy Bibbiani, Outlaw!

[@LordMizukage_]

some would say Sam should be considered the greatest of all time now. whats your opinion on that?

[@mattie5106]

@@LordMizukage_ He's up there for sure, but the way Dan defended the belt, and the way Rocha had to fight his way up to the top after his losses separates them from the rest for me.

[@LordMizukage_]

Mattie Strong case for Dan to be called greatest Rocha def in my top 4 all time the argument I'd make for sam would be won free for all won the world title then probably most impressive would be his two wins over the Patriots and he defended both belts and the only person to carry both belts at the same time

[@mattie5106]

@@LordMizukage_ If Rocha had a more compatible teammate than Knost he would've held both belts though. Plus winning the Free for all isn't THAT impressive, you essentially just need to go in near the end and you're at a massive advantage over everyone else. For me the Mount Rushmore would be Rocha, Murrell, Reilly and Kristian.

[@LordMizukage_]

i agree free for all is whatever it was just nice cause he won a lot of tournaments that year and just because knost was his partner you cant take it away from sam either, hmm youd put kristian over sam?!

[@chadpaquin1651]

There needs to be a screen junkies vs collider tourny

[@antuanlemon484]

There only three screen junkies tho

[@rahulbadoni3660]

If it's movie fight match, I would give a slight edge to screen junkies team bcuz of dan and Spencer. But if its a schmoe down match collider will kill screen junkies.

[@ianschroeder84]

So originally I felt conflicted about the ruling because I understand where Rocha was coming from, but I get that if it's in the rules that you have to write it down then that is just how it is. However, once finding out that Ellison included the O as part of his last name that is a completely different situation. It'd be like writing down John S'Rocha rather than John S. Rocha. Completely different meanings behind that, so his answer should not have counted.

[@maatimoobi8133]

Conan O. Brien, Samuel L'Jackson, Leonardo D'Caprio, Robert D'Niro, these are all acceptable answers now.

[@danthemeegs8751]

Agreed

[@ThomasDailey]

Based on my understanding they use Final Jeopardy style rules where the pronunciation of the written word is what's important and not the spelling/punctuation. How is O'Russell pronounced? oh-rus-sell? How is O. Russell pronounced? oh rus-sell?

[@ianschroeder84]

@@ThomasDailey That's fair. Now that I've had several days to think on it and not have that rush of excitement from watching it I get where they're coming from.

[@maatimoobi8133]

Yeah I've calmed down after a few days too lol

[@Isax3n]

O'Russell and O. Russell are totally different. If O'Russell stands it changes the rule, doesn't it ? Thought that was a solidified rule, since it's been used so much.

[@curtisbme]

Rocha did a bad challenge. He said Murrell got it right, not that Ellison got it wrong. He changed what he was challenging in the interview vs. what we saw him do before they went offline to discuss.

[@EnFabian]

Rocha put down DADID. How is that better?

[@andrewabraham7455]

Huge thank you to everyone involved in putting together the game, because I know you guys don't hear it enough. Because it's more than a game. It's even more than a sport. It's knowledge and a love for a beautiful and immersive art form. It's the joy and liberation in joining with a welcoming community that many don't get to have otherwise. It's truly exciting to watch and really brings joy into the life of a lot of people, especially me. Best, and thank you.

[@DutchessOfSassland]

The post game interview from the founding fathers killed me

[@Azulbloo]

I'm not sure if I want team top 10 back or for the founding fathers to continue after this tourney....

[@bigjsquare1988]

Murrell needs to be in the Movie Release Dates Patreon match.

[@LordTheft]

That emotional ending, wow. I feel for Rocha I really do.

[@curtisbme]

If he would have done the correct challenge, of what Ellison wrote vs trying to claim that Murrell had it, he would have (should have) gotten it.

[@xXSMC365Xx]

This match shows how this game that started as a little trivia game has become a real sport now. So much passion, training & team work is put on these matches. When competitors speak from the heart in these post-game interviews, it really shows how much they really care and that's amazing for us, fans. I'm so glad to be a patron for this game.

[@darthradious7011]

Ellison wrote "David O'Russell" which was wrong. The right answer would be "David O. Russell". Which means that Team Korruption shouldn't have won the match after that question. Yes, there is a difference between "O' " and "O."

[@joshtorok1983]

Darth Radious that’s real semantics. I think that’s pretty damn close.

[@darthradious7011]

@@joshtorok1983 It's about facts, not semantics.

[@PurpleandGold615]

@Joshua Torok It is not semantics at all. David Owen Russell is completely different than David O'Russell (No middle name). Chance obviously believed the O wasnt for a middle name and rather was part of his last name which is not the case. Bad Ruling!

[@joshtorok1983]

It’s really close and sounds exactly the same when you say it out loud. And that’s the point of it. When you compare a comma vs an apostrophe and someone not writing in time, there’s no question. Maybe not semantics but certainly grasping at straws

[@bgates87]

Is the actor's last name Russell or is it O'Russell? If the answer was Danny Devito and you put "Danny O'Devito" would you expect to get credit for a correct answer?

[@rachelmurphy3477]

This match has me on edge the whole time!!! I was totally ready to see Rocha & Murrell kill it, only to be heartbroken. That interview had me WEEPING. These guys play with such passion and it’s truly amazing to see the character they both displayed at the end. I don’t agree with the call, but this match proves why I love this game so much.

[@2uentin66]

Just looked up David O'Russell and he only has 1 acting credit, no directing credits. 😘

[@duncanlupercalholmes]

What about dadid o.russell. Rocha spelled the name wrong

[@anthonygonzalez514]

In that sense it should be treated like JTE was treated for that Thing / The Thing answer.

[@MultiPlatGamerGuy]

Still counts.

[@pasindubulegoda3799]

What a match! What a promo! This is why this show is the effin Best

[@henrietta9206]

thanks Rocha, needed to laugh - ....Ellis asked "have you watched the Nun" "yes....2 points" rofl - thanks guys Ive not clapped at my screen whole of this year...Murrell said Linda Blair and I did. awesome awesome! Thanks, Schmoes!

[@TheBhoyPrime]

David O'Russell is an entirely different name. Ridiculous decision if writing down the answer is required.

[@paulgibbons1366]

You're right it's just wrong

[@paulgibbons1366]

I think they need to find a way to do away with the stupid whiteboards they just cause all the friction

[@paulgibbons1366]

or just wait for the contestants to write their answers and then ask them if they all happy with their answer before turning over the boards

[@justno984]

@@paulgibbons1366 but there has to be limited time we can't wait for ever so when they are happy with their answers, we can continue. That's why I like shmowdown ... the format of the show is what makes me think it's one of the best movie trivia competition I've ever seen if not the best.

[@paulgibbons1366]

My real problem is they all knew the answer just the boards is the problem

[@henryeg99]

That interview just made me support patreon

[@thapelomosiuoa2913]

The pure passion and emotion in that post-match interview is the reason I'm a fan of these people and Rocha just snapping right back into kayfabe at the end is the reason I'm a fan of him.

[@JETEP3]

While I understand the ruling and am okay with the results, I'll be 100% honest: there should be another opportunity. Reset the scores to 31-31 and have them battle again. Upvote if you agree. Let's see if we can get their attention.

[@jeffnicholas6342]

Perhaps they could post the 'Official Schmoedown Rule Book', so we're all on the same page

[@nedmusic1494]

That doesn't happen in sports, so it shouldn't happen here. This is actually one of the best things that could have happened to the schmoedown imo.

[@jeffnicholas6342]

It happens often in sports--officials will take away points, reset a clock, move a ball a few inches, etc.--all in the interest of fairness. You're right though, it is a good thing that this flaw was exposed. In my opinion, I think a team match 'sudden death' scenario should be 'One Team, One Answer' with a 5 second clock

[@nedmusic1494]

@@jeffnicholas6342 I hear ya but I disagree because those changes usually occur during a game. Not after. That's why rule changes happen every year like in the NFL with the catching rule. I'm sure the helmet leading hit rule will be revised again after this year, because controversial calls/no calls are inevitable. And it's a beautiful kind of chaos, seeing that those types of calls add to the drama and emotional investment behind rivalries and fan discussions. Haha Like for me, it made the result of the singles championship match that much sweeter knowing that he overcame such a mentally taxing controversial call just a few days earlier.

[@jeffknutsen2941]

This was a awesome match!! Some monsters at that table! And that post interview was amazing!

[@reycev]

I’m getting emotional over a trivia game, wtf!

[@LordTheft]

You shouldn't be watching.

[@jj3665]

@@LordTheft Nah, you shouldn't be watching. Anyone who actually knows the history of this game was completely justified in getting emotional here, and anyone who actually loves this game wants everyone to enjoy it. You're trash.

[@jj3665]

Crazy, but so true.

[@DuchessSparrow]

Thank you for all that you guys do in front of and behind the camera. You all give so much to entertain us and sometimes we do take that for granted, but know that there are people out there who love and support you. The Schmoedown is an incredible league and the competitors/crew pouring their heart and soul into it is what makes it so special.

[@daliasaravia1443]

Rocha and Murrell are LEGENDS of this game and always will be.

[@bryancharlesjose1609]

Love the match!!! Love the drive and passion from the founding fathers and love the interviews with Jenn

[@lieutenantflyboy]

Rocha, you're my favourite player because no one takes a loss or a win like you do. Those who jump ship on you don't deserve to win with you because they don't know how it feels to lose WITH YOU. You've made a difference in my life and I believe you can still beat Bibbs, when you hit this low you can only rise up. Perhaps we'll still see you and Dan at Spectacular, with you defending the Belt, and him challenging. The Horsemen will al be champions because you know the pain of losing. Now go and get that singles title!!!

[@Azulbloo]

Rocha is great

[@jeffnicholas6342]

This match shows that Rocha has passion and a competitive spirit. I'm happy you recognize and embrace it!!

[@damianwayne117]

That's true, no one takes a loss like Rocha. He whines, cries (this time literally), and throws a tantrum when he loses and calls bullshit. No one else does that.

[@Christian4everish]

Damian, watch his post interview after losing to Jeff Snieder. Much different when he doesn't lose on a technicality.

[@dcnfreak5]

What a fantastic match....Chance you are the man and you and Mike have just put everyone on notice...Founding Fathers. That was well fought and i love what both of you do and bring to this league a great performance as always.....the Semi-finals of Anarchy are going to be insane!

[@The_Tauri]

Since David O'Russell is an actor, and David O. Russell is the director, the point sholdn't have been awarded.

[@UnemploymentScrub23]

Mike Kalinowski is the king! Suck on these nuts!

[@darthawsker26]

Just wanted to say that I appreciate every competitor that competes in the schmoedown like every other sport you all make it look easy but it’s not. Everyone one of you will always have my respect and admiration.

[@joshuaschaller4400]

By the letter of the law, that was the correct ruling. By the spirit of the law/game, it was not.

[@PurpleandGold615]

There was two different things that needed to be ruled on and one was wrong. No doubt Dan was too late to write down David O. Russels name so Marks ruling was valid. The wrong ruling was with Chase who wrote down David O'Russell. Now when you look at it it seems like we're arguing over semantics but we absolutely are not. The mans full name is David Owen Russell. That is completely different than David O'Russell. Chance obviously believed his last name was O'Russell and that he didnt know the O was for his middle name. That is where Mark fucked up his ruling.

[@89ludeawakening1]

@@PurpleandGold615 You are correct, he spelled it wrong.

[@wayneg552]

@@PurpleandGold615 you are absolutely correct, David O'Russell is his alterative dimension Irish self

[@jeremiahmorris512]

@@PurpleandGold615 the real question is did they challenge Dan board and the first ruling because if they did it cancelled out there challenge so they couldn't challenge chance misspelled error.

[@blackhawk9784]

You have to love this this is so genuine. Outlaw the five Horsemen this whole damn show I have respect for everything

[@ramcarr6817]

Wow. What a match. Competitors and interviewer incredibly emotional, it solidifies and reminds us that this is real to them. Love this.

[@CrazyGoran82]

Oof that match was brutal, what a finish! And wow, that was without doubt the greatest post match interview ever from Founding Fathers, that passion was unreal!

[@isabellamandert7848]

What a fantastic match, well played by all. The emotion shown by the FF and even Jen during the post interview was amazing, especially because it took us so far beyond the characters and show we usually see! Loved all of it and can't wait for the FF to be in another match.

[@giddyup523]

Awesome to see the emotion from Jen in the interview, you can see how much this means to everyone. Don't worry about the negativity, Rocha, the Schmoedown what it is because of you.

[@jewfierros5800]

The post match interview captures how much of a sport this is. Much love to all of the competitors and I am so damn grateful to have this amazing show in my life personally. God bless y'all, cannot wait for the spectacular!

[@Monkeyboy76]

Great match but Rocha is right David O Russell and David O'Russell are 2 totally different names Chance spelt it wrong end of story.

[@curtisbme]

Rocha did a bad challenge. He said Murrell got it right, not that Ellison got it wrong. He changed what he was challenging in the interview vs. what we saw him do before they went offline to discuss.

[@BrimstonePhenex]

Doesn’t matter what he challenged judges shouldn’t have gave him the point for a wrong answer

[@korky94]

Considering Rocha got nailed once on a Lena Headey when he said Hedley .. Its about equally bad , so I can see his frustration .

[@csjcsj2906]

How about Rocha writing Dadid O Russell?

[@ANTIStraussian]

You don't have to spell ot correctly in the rules. It just has to be phonetically correct

[@bookofcleophas]

The Founding Fathers finally got me to crack over Movie Trivia. 😢😭 Legends, just Legends.

[@Laura-qo5sf]

Love Rocha and Dan. Hate that this happened to them :(

[@straightedgeveganbel2453]

Be proud of yourselves, this was so much fun to watch!

[@DarkShuyin]

That ending was bullshit. The rule was solid but Chance had an incorrect answer. Simple as that

[@curtisbme]

Rocha did a bad challenge. He said Murrell got it right, not that Ellison got it wrong. He changed what he was challenging in the interview vs. what we saw him do before they went offline to discuss.

[@EnFabian]

Well. Rocha put down DADID O Russell.

[@m3gadinum8]

The emotional ending is great. Even if its not characters but the passion from these competitors is the reason why schmoedown is such a great show. Thank you so much guys for all your hardwork

[@askxperia]

Damn, it really hit them hard. Even Jen...

[@benzuckerphotos]

What an amazing post match interview. Holy

[@markcamire7146]

Am I the only one baffled by that call?? Seriously though, What. A. Match!

[@curtisbme]

Rocha did a bad challenge. He said Murrell got it right, not that Ellison got it wrong. He changed what he was challenging in the interview vs. what we saw him do before they went offline to discuss.

[@nintendofan6099]

I loved the match and passion and this made me love the league more. They really need to think about the rules before people start getting mad and leaving. That speech at the end with Rocha made me love this league more then I did. I have never been bias in this league to certain players but I really hope Rocha wins that title. I’ll be in tears that night. Can’t wait for the spectacular.

[@rexmosley4725]

I agree with Rocha. Come on guys!

[@toysfungamesfun2227]

Unbelievable ending and final interview......unbelievable.....these players, interviewers, that's why I love this game.....thank you guys so much

[@lieutenantflyboy]

The Founding Fathers scored more points in Horror that the Shirewolves ever did, that shows how dangerous they are if they ever play as a team again

[@Azulbloo]

I feel like some of those horror question were softballs though.

[@EE-bg1de]

And this is why every Tuesday and Friday I look forward to the schmoedown because people actually care about it's not just guys doing trivia these people actually care about what they're doing and I appreciate it man it's always good fun good entertainment

[@DooodOfLife]

*SPOILERS* At first I didn't understand Rocha's argument of the ruling. I wasn't sure what he was getting at. But after hearing his explanation during the post-game, I get it. Dan knew the answer, he didn't cheat. But, as much as it kills me, I have to agree with the ruling. Dan didn't have it written down in time. You could see him hitting his head, he didn't know the answer for 95% of the allotted time, he didn't have it written down. A lot of competitors have lost the ruling for less offenses. I really want to see KOrruption get crushed in their next match. Right now, I want to see The Odd Couple take the tournament.

[@edmondzippo6370]

SPOILERS Man, I was so invested... and so pissed when Dan didn't get O'Russell. Now, I'm just like you, wanna see Korruption be beaten, but they're no joke. As for The Odd Couple, couldn't agree more.

[@elmatador8857]

I get you, and I also agree with the ruling at the end of it all. But Rocha was also pointing to the fact that Chance wrote O'Russell, as if that's his last name. Whereas his name is really David O. Russell, it's a middle initial not his last name. I had to do a triple take to pick that one up, but again, the ruling wasn't unfair.

[@DooodOfLife]

@@elmatador8857 You're absolutely right, I didn't notice that. I think if Founding Fathers had challenged THAT, and not whether Dan's answer should have counted, they would have stayed alive. Man, that kinda makes their loss sting even more.

[@DooodOfLife]

I believe it. It's just one of those things that flew under the radar. Everyone would have to have been laser-focused. Like Elvin said, it was such a minute detail, but could have been a game-changer.

[@Chadmw10]

Actually he wrote David O'Rusell, which while still technically incorrect, I would have accepted it

[@davidisho13]

One hell of a match. The passion showed from Rocha and Murrell is why I love the Horseman! Rocha will come back from this and become a champion once again.

[@theamoghrao]

I will never get why the sudden death is not a team thing. This is a TEAM match. Have more team collaboration.

[@jwickjedi]

Yes, I agree. The teams should be able to converse on their answers until the team that wins a question that the other doesn't, WINS !!! Especially since these are from topics that are NOT announced.

[@jeffknutsen2941]

I want to thank everyone involved in schmoedown for putting out my favorite program in all of media!!!

[@EE-bg1de]

Man, what is happening, For me crying watching a post match interview........ Where should I mail my man card....

[@zacarybruner2600]

Earnest Evans Keep it. Those are man tears your crying, and that is just fine.

[@williamwebb2361]

Most emotional match since 2014..!❤️ I dropped a tear, you?

[@sleepypanda9928]

Question: Who plays Nick Fury in the Avengers? Answer: Samuel Elle'Jackson AND YOUR WINNERRRRR! (sorry Mark, I still think you're the best, but I think you got this one wrong bud)

[@jscott4reel]

Wow! What a match! Thanks for the high quality content and entertainment!

[@MuzikConcerts]

Loved the end of this episode. I listen to these on podcasts 95% of the time, but this episode I actually rewatched on video! Great passion from Dan and Rocha

[@123brendan12]

This is match of the year

[@brandoncaridi5229]

Also this game is the BEST! The competitors, the creators, the judges, the commentary, the interviewers. Much love for you all! Everyone SHOULD be a Patreon supporter if they can be. I didn't think I would be because I'm a college student back by federal aid. I found it easier to look at it month-by-month and realized that it's like cutting a couple gas station snacks per month. I wish I could give more, and hopefully one day I can, but I urge all else to support them if they're financially able to.

[@brettevans278]

Won't lie. Had a terrible day, like, seriously bad. Like, mom dying bad. And the ruling that a misspelled and mispronounced name beat a scribbled but correct name, from the FIRST answerer, honestly, made it worse. Also, the prior comment that the sudden death should be AS A TEAM, seems VERY correct to me. :(

[@colinmartin6505]

The emotion at the end is wild. Amazing. These guys care so much love it.

[@peter7181]

Match of the season for me. Was so intense to watch.

[@peter7181]

and now I'm tearing up

[@nadeemrashid3985]

Such a good game. The interview was amazing.

[@Laura-qo5sf]

That post match interview was too hard to watch man 😭

[@Azulbloo]

Yea I saw founding fathers faces, paused to take a breath, and then watched... poor Rocha and murrell

[@lcd130]

I’m not crying, it’s just raining on my face.

[@RobbieHaskell24]

After this match....Bibbs is crapping his pants right now. Rocha is a man on a mission. A juggernaut

[@Brownimation]

Man it kills me to see Dan and Rocha lose. They're the best of the best. I want to see them restored to their former glory.

[@brandonharbeke8326]

Bambi is a boy. They call him "young Prince" more than once.

[@brianbuchmeier]

He also grew up at the end and had a full set of antlers.

[@CapLives]

The passion from Rocha and Dan in the interview shows how much the game means to everyone involved.

[@gurrashpal]

29:20 can we please have a Rocha tshirt that says "I've got culture!"

[@geoffharris724]

Wow what a match, neck and neck right to the end then some conterversy and drama at the very end. This is why I enjoy this show so much. I think this might just be the match of the year. Keep up the good work.

[@bbbylw]

The fact that Chance wrote O'Russell means he didn't know the answer. O'Russell is as different a name from Russell as McGuinness is from Guinness - and no one would accept Alec McGuinness as the answer to who played Obi-wan. It's not an issue of whether punctuation is required, but the fact that he added that apostrophe means he didn't know the O is a middle initial and thought the surname was O'Russell.

[@drsoccer72]

I mean the example you are giving is phonetically two different things though. He didn't add syllables, he added an apostrophe similar to how some people add letters to spelling. Recently from what I have seen is if it spelled somewhat similar and pronounced correctly they give it to them. Really it comes down to the rule and could go either way. I mean if Chance had said it where it sounded like an Irish name there would be no argument in my opinion. Also technically anyone who didn't write the period on the O would then have the answer wrong

[@chucky2578]

+David Ruffner Is his last name O'Russell or Russell? If Ellison wrote O'Russell, then we don't know whether he thought the last name was O'Russell or Russell...so they should have given another question or given him wrong.

[@bbbylw]

Yeah, I agree it's a tough call.

[@bbbylw]

His name is David Owen Russell. Including the apostrophe suggests Chance thought the O was a prefix to the surname (like Mac, Fitz, De, etc.) rather than a middle initial.

[@maatimoobi8133]

You wouldn't call Bill O'Reilly Bill O. Reilly. Think about it that way.

[@sportney4]

Great match! I love Rocha and Dan and appreciate the passion/effort you guys put in to this game!

[@albericponcedeleon2696]

This could've easily been a championship match! Shame that in ended on a sour note based on the final ruling. Yes, Dan's answer shouldn't count because he didn't write it in time but Chance's answer was incorrect as well. Going from "O. Russell" (the correct answer) to "O'Russell"(an incorrect answer) doesn't eliminate the middle name but rather it changes the last name. In this case, the spelling mattered and the panel either didn't notice or they got it wrong. Because Dan revealed his whiteboard first and had already begun his attempt at writing the correct answer, it's clear that all competitors knew the answer, at least phonetically. The best decision would've been to award one point to Rocha, one point to Kalinowski and move on to the next question. My suggestion for future team league sudden deaths: have the teams, not the competitors, answer each question. If you want to use the whiteboards, then have one whiteboard per team. That way we avoid a situation like this where all competitors knew the answer phonetically but one was not able to write it in time and another had an incorrect spelling that changed the meaning of his answer. And gosh, that post-game interview! I expected a lot of emotion from Rocha but I was not prepared for Dan, much less for Jenn. It sucks to see my two favorite competitors get so frustrated with the game like that. Those two guys got me to watch as many Schmoedown matches as I could. I really hope that Rocha manages to get that belt back to see him enjoy the game again asap.

[@jeffnicholas6342]

It''s a "team" tournament--despite the Anarchy--so why aren't the 'teams' able to confer in 'sudden death'..?

[@efett1100]

I love when matches are so close! Fabulous job by all the competitors!

[@2384SKIPPER]

The end might have been judged strictly by the rules but Rocha was absolutely right in the end, this exact situation has been ruled differently in the past where you couldn´t read the pad of the first person to answer.

[@nuntiuso7347]

SKIPPER2384 I’m pretty sure that they’ve changed the rule since then, especially after the Jane Fonda incident.

[@LAnimeMaster]

Now this is passion! This is love! This is participation at its finest! My heart breaks for Dan and Rocha, but man, I can't really argue with the decision. Even Jenn's crying! Dang!

[@Creech786]

Rocha challenged whether Murrell’s answer was right since he said it aloud first. In that case, the ruling is correct because we all know you have to write it down. On the other hand, O’Russell is the wrong answer and we can only blame the judges for missing that.

[@patbulfamante9604]

This match made me respect John Rocha and Dan Murrell more than I already did. Two legends who give it everything they have whenever they are asked. #TheOutlaw #dangerousDan

[@brianmacdonald8478]

I want Frank to host a Johnny Depp schmoedown!