Collision 2024 - JeJaJeJa (Kirby) VS Tilde (Falco) - Ultimate Singles Pools - Losers Round 4

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[@NewEra2496]

Tilde is one of those players that I watch and wonder why he’s not top 10. He’s extremely sharp and creative

[@dubonkies]

Because his character is mid 😓

[@jacobhamilton2413]

And also Masa is better at falco

[@dubonkies]

@@jacobhamilton2413 calling hard 🧢 on that my guy

[@jacobhamilton2413]

@@dubonkies First of all, I’m not a guy, it’s an old name. Secondly, Masa amazing. If you look at their placements and head to heads, Mada has Tilde beat in almost every category. Only reason you discredit that is cause he’s Japanese and you only watch NA most likely

[@messymango3821]

@@jacobhamilton2413 idk man, does masa do bong rips on stream??😢

[@TimG57867]

Late but as others say this set is more a testament to Tilde simply being way more on point here. A lot of D-Air abuse especially in the first 2 games really shouldn't be happening to that extent. This gets reflected in Game 3 where JeJa finally starts adapting more and not letting Tilde do whatever he wants. You see Tilde not just merrily dive in with D-Air as much as JeJa now starts moving and attacking around instead of just passively waiting in crouch with responding to an option. And in this game JeJa flubbed some punishes like failing the edgeguard at 8:35 . Even with the mistakes JeJa had the lead multiple times in this game but fell short due to some critical errors. But given more time to adapt I could easily see him make these games look much better. All in all Tilde was just the better player in this set.

[@Pppaha1]

10:50 Hbox's Jigglypuff

[@C-Vite]

It's fun watching sets with each opponent being by far the best with their characters

[@sharkronical]

This is an annoying matchup for Falco imo But tilde knows what to do

[@djdrizzy9139]

Yeah, Tilde simply outplayed Jeja here. Kirby can do much better in this MU, but Jeja didn't adapt fast enough.

[@djdrizzy9139]

Oof, I was expecting Jeja to play better here. Kirby does well vs Falco, as long as he plays correctly. The key is anti-airing Falco with up tilt, send him off stage, then abuse his disadvantage.

[@johnbingham5693]

Falco arguably does the same to Kirby but better.

[@djdrizzy9139]

@@johnbingham5693 That's why it's an even match-up. Optimally, both have to play slow in neutral, because when one gets an opening, it's going to hurt.

[@TimG57867]

Ya big part of why the first 2 games looked so brutal is that JeJa got too passive in crouch. Crouch can force Falco to make a commitment but you still gotta respond to the option he uses to call it out. He just kinda let himself get socked with D-Air a lot in the first games and only started calling out aerials more deeper into the set. But ya this is one of those matchups that can look horrible for either side depending on which player handles neutral better.

[@xxvolcomxx56]

Bro got man handled 💀

[@jakegripss]

These are great comms 😂

[@tropicalmonix1038]

This match up can be irritating for Falco.. you have to play specifically/meticulously

[@yalebass]

tilde actually knew the matchup, and honestly jejajeja didnt. just my opinion

[@Waddledee454]

As a Kirby main, Falco is generally not a difficult matchup but Tilde is something different. I faced him once in elite smash and he destroyed me.

[@faded9581]

Can anyone tell me why everyone is saying this is anything other than a +2 for Falco. Even in neutral, Falco has the better movement stats and projectile. Sure, Kirby being short might annoy Falco when it comes to the first neutral exchange, but the moment Kirby is in the air, Falco probably gets the freest advantage in the game. Slow in the air, no disjoints, his special moves are incredibly commital, I don't see any Falco losing to an evenly skilled Kirby. Falco shouldn't even care about inhale, because Falco is way better at punishing laser, than Kirby is.

[@yalebass]

falco explodes off stage against kirby

[@godmode3611]

I am glad to watch a great Falco but I am sad for Jejajeja.

[@Mindgamingu]

HOT TAKE I’m so confused why Kirby mains just never use neutral B. I get it, it’s not the best move in terms of frames and can lead to 50/50s but what about the stuff beyond that? You add an entire new move to your kit if successful, has a bit of a tilt factor. It’s essentially a command grab. It’s fkng great in this MU specifically cause Kirby can do crazy shit with Lasers. Just remove Kirby from the game if people aren’t even going to USE THE THING THAT MAKES HIM COOL.

[@YoonnsAvec2N]

you should coach him, you seem to know a lot about Kirby !

[@djdrizzy9139]

Inhale usage is match-up dependant. Sometimes it's worth it, sometimes it's not. For this match up specifically, Kirby doesn't need it to win, but it's useful.

[@hectorneros7171]

No you're 100 percent right I've always wondered that myself kirby uses some characters neutral b better than the actual character

[@lokks2130]

I don't know how much it actually changes anything but I guess it's worth going for. Doesn't make him a worse character at least.

[@kenspeedway1572]

​@@YoonnsAvec2Nnah, he's got a point. Someone should buff Kirby's neutral B for once 😂

[@letsmakeit110]

Anyone saying this is a good matchup for kirby is crazy lmao. Probably falco mains downplaying...

[@malachibontrager372]

Kirby could not do anything in this matchup