Color Dreams: The Trouble of an Ambitious Company

[@theusher2893]

I had the pleasure of talking with the guy who developed Challenge of the Dragon. He was young at the time, only 21, and was wholly dedicated to the project. He and his friends playtested the game constantly to work out bugs and difficulty, and in the end sequence when the princess is rescued he based her look off of his then-girlfriend. It was really interesting to speak with him.

[@pojr]

Wow, that's really cool to hear. You almost never hear about Color Dreams developers. How did you run into him?

[@lukesmith9692]

Right this is interesting. I heard color dreams didn't care at all and did whatever. That's what I heard

[@theusher2893]

@pojr What's funny is he was selling his own personal CIB copies of the game on ebay. He was signing them too. The copies were pretty expensive otherwise I definitely would have gotten one, but he took the time to do some email correspondence for a while. Super nice guy with some very interesting stories.

[@thesegacampgamerandwerecam7504]

I'm sure by 1995 Color Dreams/Wisdom Tree eventually gave up since the PS1, Sega Saturn, and N64 were on their way and the NES was being discontinued by this point since it was out on the Market for 10 Years at this point!

[@TheSteveTheDragon]

So no mention of wolfenstein?

[@f.k.b.16]

I tend to lose focus on just about everything... Maybe I missed it?

[@VitaEx]

I did not see anything about it

[@pojr]

It's in there!

[@f.k.b.16]

@@pojr I like you videos. Can you put in the timestamp of where it is?

[@f.k.b.16]

@@pojr you might simply change the name and thumbnail of your video as its a good video just has nothing to do with W3D

[@edgardeitz5746]

Someone (with hacking / coding experience) should go through each "Color Dreams" game (at a time) and really improve them...

[@CrazyHomelessWeirdo]

I have a question though because I thought around the time that the Genesis came out companies like Konami in some of the other big names were making games for both before they finally ended the NES and moved on to the SNES. How were they able to make games for the Genesis and NES before the NES?

[@RageyRage82]

My aunt who worked at a Christian book store, convinced my dad to buy Bible Adventures for me. In actuality, I liked it lol! Still, it was a silly idea.

[@nordicnostalgia8106]

I highly recommend the book Bible Adventure if you liked this topic. It’s the history of Wisdom Tree and Christianity at the time. It sounds like the dumbest thing you could read about but it turned out to be my favorite book so far. Everyone thinks I’m weird when I mention it and well, maybe I am

[@jimmyclaw9974]

Color Dreams wanted to take the NES to places it’s never been before… church ⛪️

[@DirectorOfOperations811b]

King Neptune's Adventure 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

[@DirectorOfOperations811b]

i ❤ lots🎉

[@DirectorOfOperations811b]

Crystal Mines 2

[@Minty0091]

The nes game Chiller is a horror light gun game they could have done that with Hellraiser

[@pojr]

This is true. They could have done something more feasible. Even a platformer would have been OK. At least that would have most likely guaranteed a release.

[@Acidonia150reborn]

Metal Fighter looks like it Took alot of its Ideas from UPL's Atomic Robo Kid Arcade game just removing the free scrolling roaming maze levels with ones thats dont. That game had no Famicom or Nes versions though.

[@stargazerlaurent6780]

I really liked Pesterminator Western Exterminator

[@metamorphicblood]

I rented it several times as a kid. I always liked finding unlicensed games that were downright bizarre, so that was one for me.

[@alexhydell3608]

Pojr is my hero

[@Loanwolf387]

Please someone make a hellraiser colour dreams home brew …blue cart required

[@edgardeitz5746]

Maybe the "Hellraiser" game might've been possible on the *Super NES* instead... ("Super Noah's Ark 3d", anyone?)

[@scragglewaggle4109]

Make a video about the "Alpha Central Cd"

[@gtf9733]

This lad's baked but seems to know what he's on about 🙂 good job. *Apologies if you're not actually baked 😉

[@gtf9733]

P.S Got a sub 👍

[@pojr]

Thanks man! Always appreciate the support. And no I'm not baked, just regular personality 😁

[@gtf9733]

@@pojr All good man. 1, 2 Regular Spectrum Crew 🙂

[@geekume5539]

Great video but kinda clickbaity this really isn't about Wolfenstein on the nes this video would have been better named "color dreams: the trouble of an ambitious company"

[@pojr]

Fair. I've been thinking about changing this for a while. Do you mind if I use this title for the video? I will credit you in the description.

[@geekume5539]

@@pojr go ahead no credit needed

[@pojr]

@@geekume5539 Thank you, I changed it and credited you in the description.

[@geekume5539]

@@pojr oh thanks man! That's pretty cool!

[@joesaiditstrue]

sup click bait, cya click bait

[@operationbs7610]

Click bait from a sub 500 Andy. You'll go far kid..far far away

[@yurishosan]

1. click bait 2. half baked script with some less thought iut sentences and repetitve talking points, a few more passes on the script would have ironed these kinks out. 3. incoherent structure, the video was mostly unrelated to the title, and the story of the compeny was cut off in a weird time. What happened to Wisfom Tree, what games did they make? It looks like the video was cut in the middle. Overall, you got potential, but you are not quite there yet.

[@pojr]

I appreciate the advice, genuinely. You bring up some great points. To answer your last point, I didn't cover Wisdom Tree because I mainly wanted to focus on the Hellraiser topic. I feel like the Wisdom Tree games have been covered in great detail by KZbinrs like the AVGN. But if people wanted to see a video about that, I would be happy to cover it!

[@derelictfields]

I bought Captain Comic at a toy liquidator store at an outlet mall back in the day. Not a very good game at all, and I hated the funky blue cartridge, but for some reason I've held onto it. It's a weird bit of NES history.

[@FeralInferno]

19:50 hey, that's me! 😁 Awesome video! Castle of Deceit had a lot of promise, it's a shame they didn't have a more talented development team.

[@pojr]

You found a way to make a cameo in my video haha. Yeah I wonder what color dreams could have achieved if they had the right resources. I also wouldn't have minded seeing what the Hellraiser game looked like, maybe they put their best effort into it.

[@theusher2893]

I always thought it was a pretty good game. Especially when compared to some licensed games like Mystery Quest and Puss n Boots...both of which absolutely sucked in every way.

[@intel386DX]

When you a pirate company why even bother to pay movie license?? LoL 🤣 very stupid decision, better spend those money on actual game and hardware development

[@pojr]

Yeah they really put all of their eggs in the hellraiser basket.

[@tacoman6697]

You know, a lot of folks share that complaint that unlicensed games just don't hold up compared to licensed games. And sure, in a lot of cases, that's true. However, what are they comparing to? From what I can tell, it's always some of the best games the console ever had to offer, some of which are considered all-time greats. I just think that's unfair. Some of the unlicensed games definitely come up to at least the average of a "good" quality game at the time, and many, many licensed games are significantly worse than even the bulk of Color Dreams' library. It's not wrong that these mid-to-low tier games often get overlooked when talking about the NES, since there *are* better games, but when making comparisons to the unlicensed competition, one ought to remember that the NES's best games were not necessarily the majority.

[@nordicnostalgia8106]

Yeah. There’s a vast amount of mediocre licensed games on any console

[@javaly78]

I like the niche content choices for your videos, And the in-depth analysis. As far as content suggestions I pretty much like your unique span. There are a few things I would like to see on gaming retrospective channels, We’ve seen same name different game, But what about the same game released multiple times and still purchasable in the same console generation? As much as I love Capcom arcade games, Lately they’ve been notorious for releasing the same games through different arcade collections admittedly I’ve been purchasing each one of them I don’t know how many releases of Final Fight I’ve purchased, The only real changes are graphical filter options. Sega is notorious for this as well for their 16 bit re-releases. I believe you can buy Flashback more than once as well. Or how about a video of NES games That are currently purchasable on non-Nintendo consoles?

[@pojr]

This is actually a really good point. If you think of Sega, Capcom or Nintendo games, you typically see classics get re-released numerous times. Then you see lots of games (like Jr Pac-Man) that will basically never be re-released. One game in particular that I always loved was Toki. Toki got an NES release, and a few releases on PC consoles, but the original arcade version was never re-released. All we got was a mediocre Switch version, and the developers couldn't even bother including the original arcade ROM.

[@freshrot420]

Woulda been better as a Game Genie type deal, acting as sort of an early expansion pack. Then you just buy the big thing once and more cheap games to plug into it, which would now be exclusive. If the games were actually awesome as they should be for what the console could do now, it'd fuel more sales for the big thing. Just sucks the Game Genie style connection is terrible on NES and would make their product look janky.

[@lukesmith9692]

If you think about it. Nintendo didn't want us to release games along with Canada. Only camerica, color dreams and active enterprise ( action 52) is that weird? All unlicensed

[@cappa310]

Hey Pojr, you should have mention that Wisdom Tree is still making game till this very day. Religious games of course.

[@deengew]

The use of the stock videos is baffling, like the videos are totally irrelevant to what youre saying sometimes

[@shawnio]

IM TAKING MY BUSINESS NOWHERE LOL

[@oscarramos5681]

Menace Beach wasn't a good game, it was a bad game.

[@KrunchyTheClown78]

Should have made there games for the master system and 7800!

[@KaiFoxx]

It's really cool to find out the Hellraiser game almost actually existed, I thought it was just a Halloween gag someone made up for a KZbin video.

[@GconduitYTubeAccount]

Metal Fighter wasn't developed using Color Dreams tools or western developers. That's my hunch on why it feels different.

[@pojr]

Right, it was made by Sachen. Someday I'm going to do a video about them

[@alecrutz956]

I love Menace Beach, it's one I've actually beaten, and though I know the controls are slippery and some of the level designs are bad (looking at you level 9 with your dumb springs and level 11 with that near impossible jump), but it's just a fun little beat em up

[@LordmonkeyTRM]

I really like your choices of subject matter. Glad I'm here for come up. 5k very soon

[@solonsaturngaming3727]

what model is your NES never seen that one before, looks cool

[@tosgem]

Thumbs down for click baiting me, nerd. The video was so long and never got to the point. Blocked, never want to see your channel again

[@iamhere490]

Imagine getting this upset over a KZbin video title.