Over the past 23 years I was a diesel guy. Just bought a new 7.3 Godzilla gasser and Love it!!! The EPA ruined diesel trucks.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! That truck came out after I purchased this one otherwise I would have seriously looked at it. Thanks for watching!
@coolbreezeak75784 жыл бұрын
I was looking at the 7.3.... what is your honest fuel mileage?
@ernestoluzan4 жыл бұрын
It’s a big block gas engine. Don’t bother factoring fuel economy. If I had to guess when towing it would be 9-12mpg. It’s a beautiful old school concept, we will see if the Godzilla comes out with its own issues
@12yearssober4 жыл бұрын
@@ernestoluzan I’m sure it will
@jonmccormick86833 жыл бұрын
You can always add the super charger to your 7.3L for a little more power for mountains etc.
@Gravelbomber4 жыл бұрын
I considered getting a used diesel pickup, and asked the diesel mechanic at work what I should look for as far as brand and year, and he smiled and said "depends on which problems you want."
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Lol, that sounds about right! Thanks for watching!
@steveknight92544 жыл бұрын
Diesels are a niche market in the USA, too bad a premium is charged on the fuel there and it is harder to find. The emission systems are fragile and expensive. The yearly emissions test in CO is an additional hassle and expense.
@bricecine4 жыл бұрын
Get a 7.3
@whiskytangi4 жыл бұрын
@@bricecine and carry crank sensors with you lmao
@OneSquidOneBike3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2020 Ram 2500 gas back in April. I’ve seen tons of diesel Ram 2500s, but not many gas. I was debating on swapping it out for the diesel version, but you answered all of my questions and now I’ve decided to keep it. I’m happy with my purchase now. Thank you!
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for watching!
@prattman10723 жыл бұрын
Had a diesel once (2000 F-350 with 7.3 diesel) and after seeing the difference in operating costs after 2 years I went back to the 6.0 gas. The 6.0 gas is much cheaper to operate.
@andrecharron80704 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, I have a 5th Springdale weighing 10300 loaded. I have a 2017 Silverado 2500hd 6.0 litre with 4:10 rear axle, 14500 tow capacity with a fifth wheel and 2500 payload. I just drove across Canada through the British Columbia Rockies without seconding guessing my purchase. People always say the engine won't last as long as a diesel, I can have a new crate engine thrown at 300 hundred kms for less than an injector and fuel system repair.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Nice Andre! That is basically my exact truck. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@billysmith59773 жыл бұрын
Here in the US it’s a 10000$ upgrade & personally I can do a LOT with 10k and I’d rather not mess with the emissions shit on the newer diesels. Only way I would get a diesel is if it was deleted and tuned and I wouldn’t have to worry about the feds and trying to pass emissions every year
@gwood7013 жыл бұрын
Not a bad truck. They ride very stiff though and the 360hp is pretty weak nowadays. Pretty good all-rounder
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
@@gwood701 It's been a solid truck so far! The truck rides like a Cadillac in comparison to our 05' Ram 3500, driving around in that thing would cause a person to have to see the chiropractor on a regular basis, lol! Thanks for watching!
@jameswkndmechanic1743 жыл бұрын
@AndreCharron I'm planning on doing the same thing, driving across Canada to BC with my gas 2500 Ram truck. Glad to hear it wasn't too much trouble through the rockies!
@Blackshirtsguru3 жыл бұрын
Diesels were so great back in the day before they required all of the emissions garbage on them. That and the fact that people start tuning them and stretching the head bolts . Diesels were made for pulling not drag racing lol
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, thanks for watching!
@kreuzrittergottes93363 жыл бұрын
thats why you put a light tune on it and remove the emmissions garbage. your mpg goes up 5mpg in all modes of driving. enviromental my ass..
@OnHighGround3 жыл бұрын
My story is similar to yours. I drive 5k miles a year, and have a similar camper. Started out with a 96 7.3 powerstroke for a few years, then sold it for a 97 crewcab with 460 gasser. I do miss the diesel, but the gasser is simple and cheap, it never fails to start even at elk camp, and even though it's a gas hog, it would take most of my life to justify fuel savings over the cost and maintenance of diesel. Practicality and math win out. Thanks for sharing your experience. -Jesse, Boise Id.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Good points! Sounds like I'm not the only one out there with this kind of thinking. Good luck hunting this year! I just got back from Elk camp last week and am heading back out at the end of the month, came so close! Going to seal the deal on this next trip. Thanks for watching Jesse!
@jredd8014 жыл бұрын
Good on you brother.. i did the same thing and chose the same truck.. 2019 wt 6.0/6 speed auto/ 4x4 with 4.10 rear.. i absolutely love the simplicity and it just runs.. tried & true platform that should last for years with basic maintenance, Im also in Colorado, west slope 🤙 Im also right at 2 years 41k miles of ownership and zero issues..
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Like you said, tried and true platform. That is the main reason when I went with that truck. Great to have a fellow Coloradoan on here! Good to hear about your truck and no issues too :) Thanks for the comment and watching!
@CortJohnson3 жыл бұрын
That 6.0/6 spd combo is nice! Tried and true
@dedalliance14 жыл бұрын
I think the GM 6.0l gas motor is probably one of the best most reliable HD gas motors you can buy. I have a 2018 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Crew Cab Long Bed SLE 4x4 with the 6.0l and over about 33k miles so far it's done really great. I use it to pull my 34' 14k pound Montana fifth wheel that's like a brick going down the road. And sure it'll go slow up mountain passes and stuff like that but I've also pushed it to 90+ mph on flat roads (Don't try this kids) with 0 problems. When I first bought the camper I was in Colorado waiting for a call from the Carpenters Union in Montana to start a job, they called me around 2 pm and I wasn't even packed, on a Sunday and said hey be here Monday morning. So I rush packed everything left around 4 PM was like a 9 hour drive and she was floored the entire time just because I was trying to get there as fast as possible. I will say, if you wanna tow heavy you're looking at 4-6 MPG highway. I've seen as low as 3.8 MPG on a tank pushing it. Your 13 mpg estimate is a little high in my opinion even on an empty truck, I've never reset trip B on my truck and it's averaged 9.6 MPG over the 30k+ miles. But that's towing and idling and empty driving and everything. So I'd average around 10 mpg for anyone trying to calculate real world fuel mileage numbers, better to be safe than sorry. I will say though, if you go from a diesel to gas and are used to the exhuast break you need to take it really slow down mountains, I was driving past the big tunnel in Colorado forgot what it's called, and coming back down I was in 1st gear doing 5k rpm's smelling my brakes burn doing 80-85 mph down the mountain. Not very safe I should have slowed down a lot before hitting the hill, but just keep in mind if you're gonna max one of these out towing and go on steep grades you need to make sure you have good brakes and you keep it around 30-40 mph in 1st gear because she will run away on you if you're not careful. That being said, I've never once broke down in this truck it's never over heated it's never been to the shop and I abuse the crap out of it towing its max capabilities. So it's a solid truck, you just have to be smart about safety because once your brakes go out you don't have very much compression in a small gas motor to slow you down.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed comment and real world experience feedback! That is always good to know and share with others. You are yet another person that has praised the 6.0L. When I bought this truck I mainly wanted reliability. From what I've heard from just about everybody, the 6.0L is reliable! Thanks for watching!
@dedalliance14 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoCamperman Yeah they're really a pretty solid truck. My work has a 2004 Chevy express van with the 6.0l that has 290k miles on it all stock and still goes strong, it's even been wrecked a couple times lol. I worked for thsi contractor that had I think an 04 2500 Silverado with the 6.0l with 315k miles on it he still used everyday. A good family friend of mine a couple years ago bought a 2005 2500 Silverado with the 6.0l with 200k miles on it and it's still going strong. They're just really good motors. And since they've been used since I wanna say like 2003 or 2002? In everything from trucks to vans to SUVS to sports cars there are so many used parts on the market that are affordable and many in junk yards which everything is pretty much interchangeable with GM because they're too cheap to re-design things for each vehicle lol. Plus, there's all kinds of after market upgrades like turbo chargers and super chargers or pro chargers air intakes all kinds of things with decades of proven testing because of how old the motor is. The one thing though with GM, is with the independent front suspension on a heavy truck it might start failing around 100k miles and you'll have to get that rebuilt but for the better ride quality I think it's worth it. And if you really wanna make sure it lasts forever I would switch all of your oils and fluids to Amsoil full synthetic, It's expensive, but from the sounds of your experience with your Dodge it's cheaper than a new motor or transmission. If you go with Amsoil, and follow all of their guidelines and rules, if anything happens that's caused by the lack of what the oil or fluid should be doing, they'll replace your motor or whatever for free. They're one of the only independent oil companies that aren't beholden to some big billion dollar corporation that makes more money by making sure vehicles don't last lol. I may be a little partial to GM though, my Grandpa worked for them for 22 years on an assembly line. And I just really like Amsoil if you're gonna pay the insane prices for these new trucks you want to put the best oil money can buy into it. That'll make sure it's around for your kid to drive when they're 16, and with the 6.0l and Amsoil I wouldn't be surprised if your kids kid can drive it one day. A lot of people have reached a million miles on Amsoil products and GM products.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
@@dedalliance1 Thanks for the detailed information! That is really good to know about the Amsoil. I'm using full synthetic, but I don't know for sure if it's Amsoil or not. Also sweet to hear about all the 200k+ miles I've heard the exact same thing and that's ultimately why I bought the truck. Thanks again for the comment and watching!
@genecostello3 ай бұрын
😂
@Flub_KubАй бұрын
@@dedalliance1 I was thinking about switching to a modern diesel, but after hearing this, I'll keep my 01 silverado 3500 dually lq4. It's hard to find a decent gmt800 around my area at a good price.
@robedmund99484 жыл бұрын
Essentially, drive what you can afford. Americans would do well to learn this lesson.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Well said Rob. Thanks for watching!
@Fordgroup004 жыл бұрын
YEP!! Maintenance costs are key!!
@Joel-ew1zm4 жыл бұрын
It's insane how many people drive vehicles they can't afford and live in houses they can't afford. When this becomes too widespread, usually those conditions lead into a recession.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
@@Joel-ew1zm I'm a huge Dave Ramsey fan and follower for going on 10 years. He changed my life and I encourage everyone I know to follow his baby steps! Thanks for watching!
@Joel-ew1zm3 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoCamperman Same here! Gave me a whole different mindset to money and my life has been a whole lot less stressful now that i have my priorities in order. Is spending 10k extra to have the diesel and another 10k extra to have the top luxo trim worth the opportunity cost of putting that 20k towards your mortgage or retirement accounts? I tell you that base model work truck with the gas motor is gonna feel like a king ranch when you have it PAID FOR in full
@aljones91144 жыл бұрын
My wife and I bought a ram 2500 with the 6.4 hemi. We love it. We've pulled our camper from NC to Wisconsin them Michigan and back home. We spent around 800 in gas. I think that's pretty good. We averaged around 9.5 mpg. We love our gasser.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
That's about the same MPG we get towing. When I towed the same camper with our diesel, we'd get 10-12mpg, so not much better. Thanks for watching!
@kintehorton24723 жыл бұрын
Best explanation on the subject! I'm literally trying to figure out if I want to go gas or diesel. Great points.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found value in the video! I hope it helps you in your decision making process. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@ReelFloridaOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I've owned 8 diesel trucks since 95. I have a 2019 chevrolet 3500 single rear wheel now with the 6.0 gas. Still have my 2004 duramax but not towing my camper with it. It has 400k miles on it and I'm not afraid of that but it's not as comfortable as the new truck. I bought a brand new dodge 2500 diesel in 2014. Spent thousands on a new turbo 3k miles after warranty ran out. Nothing but problems. I decided to go to a gas because like you said we don't pull enough to justify a diesel. Took my 2018 work and play 30wrs to the north GA mountains this past Christmas and although it didn't pull like my duramax it got the job done. It downshifted on the steep hills but that was it. The maintenance and everything else was just too much to consider on a new diesel. I paid $39k otd for this truck. The cheapest duramax on the lot was $54k. That's before taxes and fees. If I was pulling thousands of miles a year I could maybe justify diesel. You're video and my thoughts are almost exactly the same. Every thing you said I agree with. One thing I think you might not have mentioned is insurance is higher for the duramax even being a safe driver.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience Donnie! I think it's always good to hear from people who actually have real-world experience towing with a gas and diesel trucks. Good call on the insurance! I didn't even think of that. That makes total sense because anything that has a higher sticker price will almost always have more expensive insurance. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@adamvu34253 жыл бұрын
Been wanting a diesel truck for a long time but worried about maintaining it, this cleared things up for me. Thanks.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Glad the video could be helpful! Thanks for watching!
@cash2.04 жыл бұрын
You make good points. I bought a used 2006 diesel Ram 2500. I paid very little for the truck, probably not much more than a used gasser. It was well taken care of and so far very reliable. If it breaks I can fix it. I've had a few diesel pickups before. I am in Cali so cold not an issue. Pickups prior to dpf/scr years becoming quite desirable. Yeah, gassers will get the job done but personal preference for me is diesel (when getting the truck for the right price).
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Good for you on finding a great deal. Definitely helps that you're able to work on everything yourself. Thanks for watching!
@steveknight92544 жыл бұрын
It is nice that you can work on it but for those that don’t have to pay that extra hourly for a diesel mechanic, he said it all when he said 3000 clans for 6 new injectors! I’ve got a diesel mechanic as a friend and that was what he said if you have to replace injectors might as well go and get a bank loan!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
@@steveknight9254 Yeah, the problem was, I brought up to my mechanic that I thought on injector was bad. He didn't looked into it enough and he didn't pressure test the injectors. So as a result, two injectors overfueled the cylinders and caused cracks in the cylinders. Ultimately, I had to replace the engine and all 6 injectors- ouch! Then my new diesel mechanic put in the remanufactured engine. He told me the turbo was fine. 10 months later the turbo malfunctioned and exploded. This caused shards of metal to go through the intercooler and into the engine. Destroying the new engine. Oh yeah, and I had brought up to my new mechanic that my turbo was leaking before this happened. He inspected it and said it was fine. So, basically I identified two massive issues before they happened and two separate mechanics didn't listen to me which ultimately destroyed two engines! Sorry that was a rant, lol! What a terrible experience that truck was! And a freaking expensive one!
@steveknight92544 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoCamperman I’m sorry you had to experience such a chain of financially catastrophic events, ouch is right.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
@@steveknight9254 Thanks, it was brutal! I'm glad it is over!
@acmanwwjd17 ай бұрын
Because of all the smog devices required, I went from diesel to gas as well
@ColoradoCamperman7 ай бұрын
I know a lot of people have done the same thing for the same reason!
@dana.66954 жыл бұрын
I recently got rid of my Cummins and bought a Ford 6.2 gas. I am totally happy.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear the truck is working out for you! Thanks for watching!
@geraldhawkins26434 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing 6.2 gas and absolutely love it plenty of power and don't have to spend $130 dollars for a oil change
@davidlabrenz72304 жыл бұрын
Everyone should pull with what they want as long as it is safe I like my diesel but by no means can I claim that it is cost effective
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
To each their own, right? I agree. Thanks for watching!
@steverulien80424 жыл бұрын
you are credible sir. you no speak da bullshit!
@davidfinney26124 жыл бұрын
We have a Suburban 2500 with the 6.0. We’ve considered converting to diesel, but are probably going to get a crate engine and add a supercharger. Duramax conversion is $30k, and new 6.0 with supercharger is about $11k. We pull a lot, but we need more than 5 seats. Great video!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! I hope you get something worked out with your setup. Thanks for watching!
@SF-fm7ov Жыл бұрын
I would be interested in how you like the turbo 6.0 set up. I considered buying a 6.0 and adding a small turbo if needed. I think it would take about $5k to add it. They show some rear turbines on KZbin.
@Camera1931-p5v3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2019 GMC 2500HD 4x4 long box with the 6.0 engine! They are not using the 6.0 engine in the 2020 trucks! These are great trucks you are right1 Great video!
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your purchase! The truck has been great for me so far. Just rolled over to 10,000 miles the other day. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@530JeffC3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. These days it's just not worth owning a diesel truck after the warranty has expired.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff! Thanks for watching!
@craigwheeler20572 жыл бұрын
I went from a 6.7 Powerstroke to a 6.2 gasser for many of the reasons that you pointed out in your video. I tow up to 12,000 pounds from the receiver hitch with no issues on my gas truck. I am very happy with it.
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Glad the gasser has been working out for you! Thanks for watching!
@bradmckay7439 Жыл бұрын
The 6.2 Boss is an unbelievably reliable good engine too, sad it’s no longer for superduties
@craigwheeler2057 Жыл бұрын
@@bradmckay7439 Totally agree!
@hermanmuller3 жыл бұрын
Good video. You cover about all the reasons why I also bought a gas truck instead of a diesel one. It makes no sense if you use it for occasional/recreational towing, but if you are using it for towing as part of your business, then the diesel will start to win some on the mileage battle.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Herman, great minds think alike! Thanks for watching!
@williamquestmagic4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Big time. This helped clarify the difference and Pluses/ Minuses between Gas and Diesel. Great spell out. bill in Florida
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Bill! Glad you found value in watching the video. Thanks for watching!
@50calprepper4 жыл бұрын
Very valid points. Me personally I love the sound and smell of a diesel truck, and the torque is amazing. I knew going in it wasn’t a cheap truck to maintain.$100 to do an oil change, with me doing it! Don’t have to worry about def fluid “anymore “ 😃
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! The torque is unbelievable with the new diesels! Thanks for watching!
@jeff3017003 жыл бұрын
Your EXPERENCE is the best teacher !!! Thanks you for taking the time making this vid.........
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%! Unfortunately, I always seem to learn the hard way, lol! Thanks for watching!
@juliovaldez54684 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative. I wish I had seen this before I went to diesel myself. However, I had sell it due to the pandemic and have returned to gas. I feel I'm definitely on the right track. I would also further state that my point is for those of us with trailer weights that are on the higher end of gasoline engine capacities. In other words, there's no doubt that diesel is the only choice for the heavier 5th wheels and such.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience and watching Julio!
@gsmechanicin12534 жыл бұрын
I'm a mechanic for a GM dealer first truck I bought new was a regular cab 6.0 2500 hd wt trim in 16. I tow a car hauler like its not even there! And a equipment trailer for small things( tractors) Does everything I need. 6.0 vortecs never had the issues 5.3s did later in life. And definitely more reliable than a duramax with emissions. Smooth reliable engine. Congrats on a great purchase!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
It's great to hear good things about the 6.0 from a mechanic that works on GM's! That is definitely reassuring. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@CortJohnson3 жыл бұрын
Those were great engines
@jimmyw91714 жыл бұрын
I actually did the same. I owned a 2012 ram diesel, and traded for a 2018 gas truck. The diesel was 2wd and the gas burner is 4wd. I actually get the same fuel mileage not towing with the gas as I did with the diesel. I have the 6.4 liter hemi in the gas burner and it tows my 35 foot camper like a dream, it weighs 11000 pounds.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for sharing your experience and watching!
@PapawB9 ай бұрын
thanks for your evaluation, actual experience. With 12K 5th whl, no problem towing with our ‘21 F350 SRW CCLB FX4 with 7.3L gas & 3:73 axles. Luv the 48gal fuel tank std with the LB. Primary use is for towing the RV, not a daily driver. Besides the big upfront cost, diesel maintenance costs really add up !
@ColoradoCamperman9 ай бұрын
I've heard great things about the 7.3l engine. Glad it is working out for you! Thanks for the comment and watching.
@ernestoluzan4 жыл бұрын
Two things. I’ve worked on the Cummins 5.9 and the newer 6.7 a long time. They are very reliable an near indestructible as long as they are maintained properly. I’m not saying Colorado camper man did not, I’m literally saying that my fleet has the data to prove they are solid engines. Secondly, the 3rd gen Chrysler chassis leaves a bit to be desired at times, but they are fairly simple to fix. I have a 07 Mega 2500 with a 5.9 CTD, bought it from a one owner. I’ve had to replace worn parts and maintained a few neglected items, but I love the old school pre-emission Cummins. I tow a 7500 pound trailer that is 32 feet long. I tow in Colorado so having a heavy tow vehicle and a turbo is a very nice addition. If I lived at sea level, maybe I don’t purchase this truck. It will eventually require a transmission rebuild, and other things as the mileage climbs up. I paid 18.5K for it, great deal, and it will be a long runner for 10 more years.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
I definitely maintained the truck, my problems stemmed for poor mechanics and not being able to diagnosis problems when I brought the truck into them. Here's a quick rundown of my issues... I brought up to my mechanic that I thought on injector was bad. He didn't looked into it enough and he didn't pressure test the injectors. So as a result, two injectors overfueled the cylinders and caused cracks in the cylinders. Ultimately, I had to replace the engine and all 6 injectors- ouch! Then my new diesel mechanic put in the remanufactured engine. He told me the turbo was fine. 10 months later the turbo malfunctioned and exploded. This caused shards of metal to go through the intercooler and into the engine. Destroying the new engine. Oh yeah, and I had brought up to my new mechanic that my turbo was leaking before this happened. He inspected it and said it was fine. So, basically I identified two massive issues before they happened and two separate mechanics didn't listen to me which ultimately destroyed two engines!
@ernestoluzan4 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoCamperman Word. The hardest thing for people who aren’t technicians is to find a shop that has just that. Lots of “mechanics “ out there! Especially on you tube. Some of us though have made a very honest, good living being professionals and giving people and their equipment the care and service they deserve. Sorry you didn’t find that with the shops you visited. You’re from Colorado, if you’re ever in the front range and need trailer work. I can personally vouch for Iron Bear Trailer in Denver. I’m not affiliated with them. I’ve just purchased parts there and know for a fact they provide very good repair work,
@mariobaggio8393 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m considering buying a 2021 Sierra with the 3L Duramax instead of my 2014 Tacoma for pulling our 19’ GeoPro but you’ve made great points! Been convincing myself that diesel is better but after watching your video it brings out what I was trying to avoid. Thanks!
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mario! Glad the video could be helpful. Thanks for watching!
@craigwheeler20573 жыл бұрын
I went from a 6.7 Power-stroke to a 6.2 gas in a Ford F-250. The diesel had awesome pulling power but was really more truck than I needed most days. Secondly, the maintenance was more expensive and the big ticket item was coming sooner or later. Made the switch and the gas engine has done everything I needed to do and doing it pretty well. I agree with you that for a lot of people a gas engine is a good solution for all the reasons that you mentioned. Very good video
@d.scottblacktopchanel56994 жыл бұрын
I needed to hear this. Great work!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad I could help!
@iandavis29406 ай бұрын
Nice breakdown Brian. I'm on my second GM pickup with the 6.0 liter and have also been very satisfied. Keep up the good work man.
@ColoradoCamperman6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate the comment and you watching!
@NV-ct7et2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 GMC 3500 dually diesel with the 6.6 Duramax that I will be trading in a GMC AT4 2500 with the 6.6 gas engine. The primary reason is the cost of fuel. Diesel is currently $3.99/gal in PA as of Jan 2022.
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Those GMC AT4's are pretty sweet! I've heard nothing but good things about that engine too. Thanks for the comment and enjoy the new truck!
@stevemalone20102 жыл бұрын
Good info, enough to convince me to buy a gas RV vs a diesel. The difference in price of an RV, 24’, is approx $20k to $40k. It would take me another lifetime to make up the difference in fuel and maintenance costs. Good work!
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Glad the video could be helpful! When you run the numbers, it give you a whole new perspective on things! Thanks for watching!
@Boisetom4 жыл бұрын
I feel better about getting my 6.2 f250 in 2018 after seeing this. However, they have a 7.3 liter gas now and that would be AWESOME. You're right about the cost difference and really it's about the ego getting passed on the hill for me but I had to get over that and I'm happy I didn't waste all that money on a diesel.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Good! Lol, you sounds like me. I like my 2019 6.0L Chevy, but Chevy came out with the 6.6L in 2020 that has more torque, HP, & can tow 16,000lbs. I've heard it's a pretty big improvement over the 6.6L. I also heard great things about Ford's 7.3L gas. I totally understand where you're coming from with hills! I've noticed that if I struggle going up a hill, semi's are struggling and I'm usually passing them - so that makes me feel better, lol! Thanks for watching!
@electriciansmate19872 жыл бұрын
Your cost to benefit analysis on fuel economy was brilliant.
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I wish I would have ran those numbers before we bought a diesel, lol! Oh well, live and learn. Thanks for watching.
@jrt773394 жыл бұрын
We also went from a Diesel to gas based on our travel and usage. We traveled from Texas to Alaska a few times and the Diesel was great for those long trips and since everywhere had pugs for block heaters in AK starting was no problem. Now we are in Texas we went back to gas as short trips and the lower maintenance cost is great with the gas truck.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense to me! Thanks for watching John!
@kennyodunaiya37193 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for a video like this. To help me decide what my first truck should be. Making a switch from a Sadan. I really appreciate this!!
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the video could be helpful Kenny! Thank you for watching and have fun with your new truck!
@systemfile4 жыл бұрын
I like your mathematical breakdown on this. The added cost of ownership in a diesel also is a significant factor. Oil changes, fuel filters, fuel additives and eventually maintenance costs. The Duramax will even need injectors or emissions system components and who knows long term how that fuel system will pan out. If it's anything like the LML's and the cp4 failures. I've been mulling this over for months now. I bought a new 2108 3500HD Silverado with the Duramax. I don't pull heavy enough often enough two justify it. I'm wanting to avoid all those expensive fixes down the road. Not had any troubles with the diesel but I sure don't want to. Looking really hard at a new 6.6 gas truck from GM. Love the video.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, breaking it down like that really made me think twice about diesel. I've heard great things about those new 6.6L gassers! Thanks for watching!
@ddw39682 жыл бұрын
You don’t think a gasser will have eventual maintenance costs too and all truck engines have some amount of emissions components.
@Ka_Gg4 жыл бұрын
I agree with many things you mentioned here. One thing many people do is underestimate what their gasser can do. For example, I have a 2001 chevy 1500. It has been my "tow truck"....as in hauling vehicles on a 16ft trailer. Way too many people think you need a diesel or even 3/4 gasser for that. You don't need a big truck to haul around a basic car. Plus the ride is so much smoother. I've had that truck for 5 years and love the damn thing...but I'm upgrading. Heck, if you just need a basic truck, an old TBI 350 chevy will do the trick. Simple and dirt cheap. Availability of fuel is absolutely something to think of. I used to have a 2001 jetta TDI. Great MPGs and had good torque. My problem was I'd run the fuel low and then never find diesel in rural areas. Then, the one time you find a diesel place, they know it's the only one and charge a lot more than the average. You can obviously avoid this, but it's something to remember. Fuel economy and maintenance cost probably even out in the long run (realistically, the diesel in the long run probably costs more). Let's say hypothetically a 6.0 gasser completely went bad. It'd cost the same as a full set of injectors for a more common diesel. Also, as you stated the cold starts and all that. *I "need" to upgrade and recently picked up a 2001 silverado 2500 gasser on trade, but also bought a 2003 ram 2500 cummins 6spd manual for $3500. I am having the injectors tested now, but once that is addressed (truck ran well, but just wanted to be safe), the cummins should be solid. I keep going back and forth whether to keep the gasser or cummins since I don't tow a lot, anymore, but plan on doing more and more. My biggest problem with the older LS engines is they are kind of gutless until you get up higher in the RPMs. I also took my 2500 chevy around the block a few times and it seemed like it was chugging that fuel. Granted those older 6.0s got worse mileage than the newer ones. When I picked up my cummins, I drove it an hr and the needle didn't move much. The older Chevy's are just nicer trucks overall. The interior is so much better and they just look better. As of right now though, my plan is to use the cummins as my truck. hopefully I don't regret it, but if I do, I should be able to sell the cummins and do just fine.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed comment and watching! It's always great to hear about other people's stories.
@mftoutdoors74834 жыл бұрын
Got booth gas and diesel I end up using the gas more often. Use diesel only on heavy loads.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, thanks for watching!
@maxipaw-dc5xj4 жыл бұрын
Same here i
@ericgustafson87164 жыл бұрын
If you hot shoting or using your truck for work, use diesel. Everything else use gas.
@sonandsanford49634 жыл бұрын
Same here.... my Frontier does 75% of my needs and my gen2, 12v take care of the rest.
@zackzander4254 жыл бұрын
That’s the way to do it. I’d like to get a TACO to compliment my F-350. A lot of times you don’t need that big ass truck to do a job.
@herb78774 жыл бұрын
I went gas for all the same reasons. I have a F150, 3.5 ECO and tow a 7500 TT. I've averaged ~10.3 towing over the past 4 years & 30k miles. This is towing over a lot of hills & mtn's in the Pacific NW. I did get 13.5 on two different trips but on pretty flat ground in AZ. Empty I average ~22-24mpg's on the freeway & 17 around town. NEVER a problem going up large hills at 60+ mph (in 3rd gear most of the time, drop to 2nd to pass ).
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
That's some solid MPG, I've heard that from the Ford ECO. Thanks for the comment and watching Herb!
@robertheinkel62254 жыл бұрын
Good to know.
@jayo77995 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense to me, you really did your homework.
@ColoradoCamperman5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I spent too many damn hours researched, lol! It's nice to have that free time back :)
@UncaDave4 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis with all the variables that could effect each individual. I have a Forest River Wolf Pup and fully loaded it might be 4000 lbs. Hard to believe but I tow it with a 1996 Dodge Dakota with a nice 318 cu. inch V8. Without the trailer I can get 20 mpg. Towing I average about 12 mpg. My truck is loaded too when I RV. My towing capacity is a bit over 6,000 pounds. So this gas set up works for me. However, I used to raise beef cattle and for hauling hay, cattle , pulling through the woods and pastures, a diesel is king. But I don’t do that anymore so gas in my little truck works well for me.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience and watching Dave!
@UncaDave4 жыл бұрын
Your analysis was practical and relative to costs. Another way to understand it is a gas engine uses an average compression of 9:1 and a diesel approximately 21:1. This is why there is so much more power in the power stroke of the diesel. However to get that you have a much more complicated engine. If you need that much power that is where you go to diesel and cost becomes acceptable for your requirements. Most guys love the idea of a diesel but often it doesn’t make sense. For those of you that might have some interest in the old two stroke diesels, check out Bus Grease Monkey. He works on older Detroit diesels in buses. Quite interesting and a fun channel for those of us that are gear heads. Thanks again!
@michaelprosperity3420 Жыл бұрын
I've been driving my 2002 Ram since new. 21yrs with a 5.9 magnum. The old Dodge bloodline.
@ColoradoCamperman Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! That's what I'm planning on doing with my truck. Thanks for watching!
@leelyons29113 жыл бұрын
All the same reason as I had in 2006. Still have my 2006 2500hd 6.0 4x4 and love it. Only have 130,000 on it still running strong.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that you're 6.0 has done so well! That is the reason why I bought our truck because I had heard similar stories. Thanks for watching!
@wes3264 жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe with my 2005 Duramax was that it would not warm up during my 7 mile winter commute. Pulled a trailer great but was more than I needed on a daily basis.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my experience! Thanks for watching Wes!
@LKN4WAR4 жыл бұрын
Move to the s west 😛
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
@@LKN4WAR Lol, yeah I wouldn't have to worry about the cold weather then!
@mrlariata92903 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I enjoy my ford 6.2 gas crew cab long bed I use for camping and hauling atvs. We also have the 6.0 chevy in a passenger van we use as well. It tows great on flat but when we are driving over the mountain passes with an 8000lbs load it takes time. I actually use that slow time and enjoy the scenery. Of course you will see diesel pick ups hauling their rig 70 miles an hour putting themselves and everyone else at risk. Your reasons for gas and my reasons for gas are pretty simular, except I like the smell of diesel lol. Thanks for taking the time and posting.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thank you for sharing your experience and watching Mr. Lariata! It's always great to hear from people who have real-world experience.
@Chrsgray4 жыл бұрын
Agree. With you for your situation. There is no reason to buy a diesel to tow a 7k trailer. I have 2 trucks both diesels but I tow all the time and I tow 15k plus most of the time. Good video.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! Yeah, in your situation a diesel definitely makes sense. Thanks for watching!
@duckwacker87204 жыл бұрын
Except you get better mpg towing 7,000 lbs.
@DV777373 жыл бұрын
Great info sir. Love my HD 2500 gasser and I’m not pulling anything over 8000 lbs myself. It’s perfect for me
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Sounds like your situation is almost exactly like mine! Thanks for the comment and watching!
@COVolcom4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel! Been watching for a couple years. Didn't realize you were local to me! Totally recognized the DQ in the first couple seconds of your video!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Lol, that's pretty funny. Yeah man, SOCO all the way! Thanks for your loyalty and watching my videos!
@walttrotter5354 жыл бұрын
Bought my 02 F250 brand new with the V10 gasser. Towed my boat all over (6271 lbs) now has 240 K on it. Been some major repairs but can't complain. I had to order it as the dealer had no gas F250s. After test driving a gas F150 and a diesel F250 the quiet gas was the obvious choice for me. Looking back at the disaster the Powerstrokes were back then I'm glad I bought the Triton.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience and watching Walt!
@OnmywaytoFI3 жыл бұрын
Congrats and great choice. We have a 2016 2500 WT with the 6.0 Vortec bought used this summer. Moved from an 2008 1500 with a 5.3. After towing our 30 foot travel trailer we realized a 2500 was necessary to travel safely. When looking for a 2500 we strongly considered a diesel but couldn’t justify the upfront costs and maintenance for the diesel. Came across our 2500 with all service records and haven’t looked back. Based on other trucks we looked at we saved at least 8 grand by not going with a diesel. For us a no brainer and the 6.0 Vortec is bullet proof with a proven workhorse track record. You will not regret your purchase! Happy Camping! Killer hat BTW
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You guys have great taste as well, lol! I agree on basically everything you said in your comment. Thanks for watching!
@brianscheele85872 жыл бұрын
I love all of your comments and I will add another one. Get the oil changed on a gas vs diesel....diesel is a lot more. Like he said about the diesel breaking down a lot, true because of the nice clean diesel they now sell destroys a diesel fast because it doesn't have enough oil and crud in it like the old diesel was and then add in all of the emission crap and DRP, Diesel fuel and trucks are not what it used to be and now look at the price. 1 barrel of oil can make 5 barrels of diesel or 1 barrel of gas but Diesel is more expensive.
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and watching!
@mikeclassing52634 жыл бұрын
My parents and grandparents towed travel trailers back in the 70s & 80s with cars , they were body on frame , rear wheel drive , with V8s . We didnt have these big noisy over price trucks and got on down the road just fine.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The fact that new gas trucks can tow 15,000lbs+ is pretty insane! And diesels can tow 20,000lbs+, crazy! Thanks for watching Mike!
@steverulien80424 жыл бұрын
My best friends dad who was a master machinist mechanic pulled a 7500lb 27ft 1967 Kenskill travel trailer with a Plymouth station wagon with 318ci v-8 2barrel. auto trans. For YEARS oh yea with 5 kids and all the stuff that goes along with that. NEVER had a problem. Also my aunt and uncle pulled a large travel traler all over the USA in the late sixties pulling with a Buick electra
@mikeclassing52634 жыл бұрын
@@steverulien8042 Yep my grandad had a 1977 Impala and towed a 22 ft Wilderness travel trailer no problems and my dad had a 1975 Impala and towed a 19 ft Shasta. But they quit building cars like that in 2011 with the end of the Crown Vic and Grand Marques and the Lincoln Town Car.
@jakleo3374 жыл бұрын
Remember the speed limit was 55 then.
@minitrucks4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Well done! Lot's of people buy a diesel and don't really need all that torque. I used to have a gasser and was killing the truck for 26,000 pound towing. I regularly use two of three 06 LBZ's and my GVW is pushing 26k coming home from the port. In a case like this, you NEED a diesel. That said, I also LOVE my LBZ's. There is something about a diesel that is always in the back of my mind while I'm driving that puts a big smile on my face!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Diesels definitely outperform a gasser with a heavy load, no question! Thanks for watching!
@RedEemblem2 жыл бұрын
Low end Torque of diesel pulls you against the seat, that's addictive and fun, specially with standard trany or manual selector.
@jameshurd86574 жыл бұрын
I just sold my 6.7 Powerstroke for 38000 and bought a truck two years newer that's got the 6.2 L gasoline engine and believe it or not the gasoline engine is very comfortable to the older 7.3 diesel as far as horsepower and torque I don't regret it especially up elk hunting when it gets below zero and I don't have any way to plug it in. I don't regret it at all!!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you've had such a good experience making the switch! I have yet to regret it and as you mentioned, I don't miss dealing with the diesel in cold weather! Thanks for watching!
@IbexStellata3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently driving a 2006 Dodge 2500 megacab with 5.9 Cummins. I've put 252k mike on it since new. I'm targeting a 3/4 ton gasser for my next daily driver/tow rig...2015+ GMc/Chevy. I'm impressed with my past experiences with LS/Vortec engines. But...if I find a smoking deal on a Ford, Ram, or diesel pop up, well then, I might just give it a go. Good video. Thank you for the analysis, comparisons and thoughts.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment and for watching Travis!
@_ltor4 жыл бұрын
Mines a gasser, as long as you don't mind it screaming at you on hills its all good
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that is the biggest area we have noticed the difference - hills. Thanks for watching!
@Fordgroup004 жыл бұрын
Yep 👍 v10, BABY!!
@garrettglauser88244 жыл бұрын
I’ve said it multiple times. Unless you’re pulling 5-10k pounds daily if not multiple times a week, diesels are not worth it anymore. 90% of truck owners are not towing on the daily, thus it makes 0 sense to have one. Good on you for being honest with yourself and crunching the numbers. Who cares if you get 9mpg towing, you only tow a few times a year.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Well put Garrett! I agree with you 100%. Thanks for watching!
@lance33384 жыл бұрын
I tow more than anyone I work with and I have a gas motor. The guys with diesels I work with do not tow. They just wanted the diesel because it's the fad. I know there are people who do need a diesel but I'd say 90% of the people them dont.
@christopherr.71384 жыл бұрын
That was my whole way of thinking before I got a bigger truck. Went from a 1500 4x4 to a 2500hd 2 wheel drive.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
@@lance3338 I definitely agree with you. Thanks for watching!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherr.7138 I hope you're digging the 2500hd! I love 3/4 ton trucks, they are super versatile and are the way to go if you're towing. Thanks for watching!
@fattie25505 жыл бұрын
Dont forget to add Diesel Exhaust Fluid for the Diesel engine.
@bilderbeargroup42175 жыл бұрын
You mean the blinker fluid? Lol
@fattie25505 жыл бұрын
That too.LOL
@santigusman73594 жыл бұрын
You mean Hog urine!
@alltsab4 жыл бұрын
You make a great point. Any one who want something to tow should watch this video. Bro to have fun and enjoy life is not cheap I can tell you do spend money to fix that broken dodge diesel.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the comment and you watching!
@300zx-sfy84 жыл бұрын
Straight to the point thank you for the good content
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate you watching!
@jasondrick26484 жыл бұрын
I mean not really "straight to the point" but it was a good video nonetheless 🤣
@troyyarbrough2 жыл бұрын
My first, only, and last diesel truck was a 2002 Ford F250 Power Stroke. I bought it in early 2006 and it only had 34k miles on it. I thought it was great until diesel prices started climbing rapidly just a few months after I bought it. Then came a nice cold morning in late February and my wife could not get it to start (she didn't wait for the fuel pre-heater light to go off). The final straw was when I took it in to be serviced. OMG! I didn't have a clue. It cost around $65 to get my old 1995 F150 serviced, but this diesel beast cost almost $300 for a simple oil and filter change along with a fuel filter. I ended up selling it for about the same price I paid for it, so I wasn't out too much money. I bought a 2006 F250 with the 5.4 Triton engine and it has been awesome. We still have it and even with over 200k it still runs great. I have had to replace the coils and spark plugs two times, the battery 3 times, and the alternator once. Other than regular maintenance, that has been it. I'm a firm believer that diesel trucks should be used for hauling stuff and making money.
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience! Glad to hear you didn't lose any money on your learning experience. Our diesel truck cost us around $40,000 for a learning experience, lol! That includes the money we made on selling the POS. Glad your gas truck is working out for you. Ours has been working great for us too. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@perecarl12 Жыл бұрын
I'm a diesel owner and planning to buy a newer one. Based on you calculations you forgot to include the cost of DEF which makes owning a gasser a more practical decision.
@ColoradoCamperman Жыл бұрын
Good point, thanks for the comment and watching!
@ricksrandomrepairsandrevie96114 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. I tow a 20 foot camper at 4400 lbs dry, with a 5.3 vortec (2009 Avalanche) a few times a year and was thinking of a diesel truck in the future, but may move up to a 2500 HD
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Rick! I can't recommend towing with a 2500 enough! I've only ever had a 3/4ton truck or better. Huge difference in towing and much more stable/safer. Your camper is small enough that a 1500 will do great, but if you were to step up in length or weight, a 2500 will be much better suited. Thanks for watching!
@ricksrandomrepairsandrevie96114 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we may move up to a longer camper with a slide out someday and will look at 3/4 ton trucks as well.
@GuitarStarAcademy4 жыл бұрын
My father was the lead fleet mechanic for Colorado’s energy company for almost 40 years. He has worked on and maintained every Diesel engine and gas engine there is. His first words of advice to me were.......NEVER buy and Chrysler product. And in all those years he never even entertained owning a diesel. And we did tow race cars every weekend for a lot of years. There’s just not enough bang for the buck period
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Craig! The worst vehicles I've ever owned were Jeeps and my old Dodge. Fun vehicles but they broke down constantly. So, I'd tend to agree with your Dad. Thanks for watching!
@dchawk814 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoCamperman lol I had a Jeep and a Dodge also. They probably spent the least amount of time in my life of any vehicle I've owned. They were nice enough I guess but the Jeep didn't feel like it would last long enough to justify its price and the Ram 3500 dually threw a code with only 5,00 miles on the odometer not towing and on flat highway. So I was like yeah let's get out of this while it still has some market value. My pickup is still a diesel but it's an 86 with basically nothing on it and cost me very little to acquire and make road worthy.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
@@dchawk81 Thanks for sharing your experience and watching!
@jesseaguirre29613 жыл бұрын
I OWN BOTH GAS AND DIESEL , AND I LOVE BOTH OF UM,, 6.0 DIESEL IS A MOSTER ON PERFORMANCE THOUGH ,, GREAT VID !!!
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and watching Jesse!
@charlietaylor63894 жыл бұрын
We have a 2002 Chevy express 3500 5,7 ho gas been towing a 1972 avion for 18 years people are still telling me that I can’t tow with a VAN lol
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Lol, that's pretty funny, some people just don't get it! You basically have a 1 ton truck with a van body. Most of the frame/chassis and components are the exact same as a truck. You could probably explain that to people and they still wouldn't understand. Thanks for watching Charlie!
@warrenpuckett42034 жыл бұрын
Engine = Same. Transmission = same. Axle = same Frame almost the same. Brakes = same. Just need good mirrors. Oh wait now the they got this new fangled thing, a rear facing camera and display.
@kyleb4463 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I’ve been processing this data for the same exact reason. I love diesels and have loved the ones I’ve driven/owned. End of the day, the logical decision goes to the reliable snail over the high maintenance rabbit.
@ColoradoCamperman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and watching!
@scshufran251 Жыл бұрын
Most of the diesel mechanics that I know prefer owning a gas truck vs diesel. Why? Because of the overall simplicity of maintenance and low cost of ownership. Also, most diesel truck owners get sucked into the 'hype and allure' of the diesel engine that can generate "bookoo" torque and HP numbers. However, the vast majority of these diesel truck owners rarely tow anything. And, if they do tow a trailer or RV, it will be very infrequently (i.e. 'maybe' a couple times a year). Thus, if you own a rig that does a significant amount of towing then, a diesel truck makes complete sense. However, if your trucks usage is more daily driver or making a once-in-a-while run to the local Home Depot, your wasting money owning a diesel. Just like my diesel mechanic friends told me when I was looking to buy my last HD truck, stay away from a diesel if you don't have a real need for frequent heavy towing.
@ColoradoCamperman Жыл бұрын
Very well said! Thanks for watching.
@kdaltex2 ай бұрын
I get 12mpg with a 5.7 tundra towing approx 3700lbs but it has a draggy 525gallon tank on it. About 8000lbs full of water.
@robertlee67833 жыл бұрын
Love diesel ,but I'm considering switching too gas for several reasons less routine maintenance cost ,considerable less repair cost and honestly don't want the dpf problems I believe a gas engine f350 will do what I need
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love diesel trucks too. For what I use a truck for, I don't need one though and our gasser does everything we need. Sounds like you might be in the same boat as us. F350 gasser would be a great choice! Thanks for watching!
@Whipspur3 жыл бұрын
We run two 7.3 powerstrokes, an older duramax and a 6.0 powerstroke up here in Canada’s cold north on the ranch. We haven’t had much serious trouble and the trucks have essentially paid for themselves but when you add up all the maintenance, high cost of parts and 100 buck an hour shop labour to change a faulty injector or the like (6.0), we can’t justify buying a post emissions truck with the uncertainty surrounding them. We just purchased a 6.2 gas in a f250 and minus the fuel mileage it’s still far more feasible.
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Glad the gas truck is working out for you! Thanks for watching!
@JustinKingOffroad4 жыл бұрын
i really wanted a diesel truck until the EPA "F-d" it up for everyone lol! way more efficient on the budget with a gasser, even though it's barely pulling 13.
@warrenpuckett42034 жыл бұрын
Had that explained 4 years before DEF. Diesel adds 5-8 thousand to the initial price. Diesel fuel costs vs diesel MPG to offset the cost not enough to offset the initial cost. Cheaper to just get another medium duty gasoline truck at 250,000 miles than keep the diesel for 350,000. Now add DEF and the additional particulate filter cost. Heavy duty is a different animal. I am talking two or three drive axles or 2 and and tag and a 53' trailer. That would average out to around 200,000+ miles per year for a single operator rig.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, thanks for watching Justin!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Great points Warren! Thanks for watching!
@duckwacker87204 жыл бұрын
That's why a full delete and tune is required for all new diesels.
@roylemke47234 жыл бұрын
@@duckwacker8720 be careful driving around this country. Some of the chicken coops love to give you an inspection and as they did to a friend: they shut him down until he had someone go to the chicken coop and put his exhaust system back to original equipment and fined him .
@firebirdlover4460 Жыл бұрын
I live in California. My state seems to be at war with diesel. So, I went with the 6.0L Silverado. That was my reason. I love the truck.
@ColoradoCamperman Жыл бұрын
Good choice! Thanks for the comment and watching.
@noahbaxter47294 жыл бұрын
Great video man ! Has helped me in the purchasing of a truck
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Noah! Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
@richardmathern9004 жыл бұрын
I just went for the first time diesel 2020 gmc 2500 crew long box 4x4. I will defiantly not be going back to gas. This thing is a beast. I am a building contractor and pull trailers every day
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear the diesel is working out for ya. Diesels definitely have their place and it sounds like for your application, it was the way to go. For what we use our truck for, a diesel was not necessary. Thanks for watching.
@bamtiller62144 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and number crunching. In 2019 I got rid of my 05 GMC 2500hd Duramax and bought a 2019 Tundra. We tow a 7,000 lb travel trailer also and it tows pretty well, with the exception of having a low payload. After wrenching on the GMC for so many years and potential injector replacement costs looming, I decided to go for known reliability.
@joebiker59924 жыл бұрын
My wife bought a 2019 tundra, and I have a 2005 f250 crew cab powerstroke. For our smaller loads, like our fish house, sleds, and wheelers, I actually like the tundra better for towing. The only reason we have the super duty is towing our 5th wheel.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
I would have bought a Tundra if they made a 3/4 ton truck! The most reliable vehicle I ever owned was a 4Runner and have heard great things about the Tundra. Thanks for watching!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Great combo! Thanks for watching!
@woldridgefencing90212 жыл бұрын
I have had 3 Dodge diesels, 2 Chevy diesels, and 1 Ford diesel. They cost me a ton of money. Running 2 Chevy gas trucks in my buisness now and that relieved quite a bit of stress on my end.
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear, thank you for watching and sharing your experience.
@allenw9694 жыл бұрын
Sound, feel, and odor. All good reasons to choose a gas V-8.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
I dig the sound of even my stock truck! Thanks for watching!
@bamorris223 жыл бұрын
All good reasons to choose a diesel!!
@rodyjperez76592 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information! You definitely have lived it and your totally are correct!!
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thanks for the comment and watching!
@sumacmt4 жыл бұрын
Pull my Airstream up a lot of mountain roads. 25 mph 6.0 Litre gas, 55 mph same 5.9 Cummins. Got tired of almost blowing up the gas engine to prevent traffic jams. No contest, no problems.
@leroymontano3154 жыл бұрын
Yupp I'm changing to diesel ,less friction on engine ,and we don't go that far anyway .I hope I made the right decision ,my 26 ft RV trailer got pulled three hours to get her home and I told myself you will blow this engine ,I'm going to diesel ,and driving comfortable.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it will work out better for you. Thanks for watching.
@SgtMinuteman4 жыл бұрын
Bet you liked having an exhaust brake coming down the mountain too!
@brianbelliveau55512 жыл бұрын
Yea we have a similar situation I bought a 3/4 ton 2500 HD with the 6.6 gas engine you’re right the big difference is going up hills or mountain range out west living in Florida is pretty flat but we do want to go west but I think this new truck will be fine 401 hp and 464 ft pounds of torque
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
That new 6.6 gas engine sounds great! I've only heard good things. I bet you will be fine, we our with our 6.0 and it has less hp and torque. Thanks for watching!
@MarkPdot4 жыл бұрын
Years ago I had this debate with a coworker. He was so adamant that diesel or bust. After using actual figures from our trucks I showed how it would take 10 years JUST to break even. Since then I've upgraded from a Sierra 1500 5.3 to a Silverado 2500 6.0. The numbers would be different but still not worth the diesel premium price. Great video!
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
I didn't think it was going to be that big of a difference until I actually ran the numbers! Thanks for the comment and watching!
@MarkPdot4 жыл бұрын
c exactly my point. I don't need a diesel. Explain that to my previous coworker who maintained that it's either diesel or nothing. I only used cost/mile to give perspective. I don't want the extra anything of a diesel costs, but that's my elective. Depreciation doesn't hold much weight with me as I keep my vehicles. My last truck was wrecked and bought my current truck for $2,600. It's a 2000 with 437k miles (I got it with 363k miles) and I do my own maintenance. This truck has seen all the depreciation it's going to see before it's eventually scraped. I'd probably never break even buying a used diesel truck because I don't need it. If I were to have a need for what diesel can and will provide than I'd have to find a way to purchase one. That's a no brainer, but the most I've ever towed was 10k lbs one time. My typical haul is only 5k, maybe 6k lbs so a diesel would be wasted from lack of work. Now fuel mileage unloaded of a diesel is quite attractive but the fact that a "cheap" diesel truck to buy would cost more than I have on my current truck to include the maintenance cost I've spent on it in the 5+ years of ownership. This includes a $1,100 replacement engine I installed earlier this year. My oil changes costs $30, my fuel filter cost $10. Plugs and wires around $50 every couple of years and fuel injectors (reused from old engine) are still factory from what I've received of the service history. So in the end I think my purchase has been well worth my time, money and energy and I don't have a car note and no loans to pay for my maintenance expenses.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
@@bcelectricc Yes exactly.
@PremiumFuelOnly4 жыл бұрын
Its opposite here in metro Atlanta, Diesel is exempt from emissions, Gas requires emissions every year unles its over 8500K GVWR or a motorhome. It dosent get cold enough to have starting problems, and newer diesels dont have the smell issues with new factory exhaust systems and Older Diesels are musical instruments. My daily driver is a manual TDI. I made a mistake selling my 97 manual cummins.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting about the emissions. Every state is different. And here in Colorado every County is different. Thanks for watching!
@Roybwatchin Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, the national average today (11-8-23) for diesel is $4.39 and gas is $3.45, so a difference of .94 cents. So your numbers would be even better to support the gas truck. I've had three diesel trucks over the years and several gas trucks. I was driving a 07 Ford with the 6.0 diesel a couple years ago and loved the mileage and power, but hated the oil changes, and other basic maintenance costs. The Ford ended up trashing a lifter and starting clattering. It still drove fine and had plenty of power, but unfortunately, to change the lifter, you literally have to pull the engine (that's the easiest way) and pull the head off the engine just to change a stupid lifter. The repair was going to be over 5K, likely closer to 6K by the time they find other stuff. So, I had to find another truck in 2021 at the height of the insane truck prices. So, I got lucky and found an older 2000 Ford with the 7.3 diesel and it ran good so I bought it for a "temporary" truck. It has done the job, but I still have the high maintenance costs and in my area, diesel is 4.75 per gallon. I only pull a 7500 lbs fifth wheel and have be wanting to go back to a gasser. I recently bought a used 2016 Silverado 2500HD with the 6.0 gas and really like the truck. It does everything I need and it rides smooth and has a smooth powerband. The mileage isn't as good as the diesels, but it is just a much better setup for me. I too travel to local lakes, so I don't have to push the truck through mountainous terrain, etc. When I retire, I'm planning to downsize on my camper and do some traveling, so I think my gasser will do just fine with an even smaller camper. Thanks for sharing.
@ColoradoCamperman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. I've talked to a lot of guys that have had a similar experience. Glad you got something that is working out. Thanks for the comment and watching!
@jaynelson5733 жыл бұрын
Yes I have been in the same situation and I went back to a gas truck just like you my friend smart move
@ColoradoCamperman3 жыл бұрын
Ugh, sorry to hear that. Glad it worked out for you! Thanks for watching!
@mp-py7gs5 жыл бұрын
They have electric plug in engine warmers so your diesel will start usually in the morning in cold weather
@ColoradoCamperman5 жыл бұрын
My old Dodge did not have one, although I could buy an after market block heater but I never did.
@robertnordgren71894 жыл бұрын
Electric plug heaters used to be pretty standard on all cars in Sweden, we never had a car without one, but for towing you need the torque of a diesel, remember watching gas driven barely being able to climb the hills, and we had Mercedes 608d with 30ft trailer behind and just breezed past them all while getting decent mpg
@jaybrown294 жыл бұрын
Where you get the money back is on the resale. A diesel is usually 6-$8000 more than a gasser with the same mileage. And if you tow heavy. I have a 2020 duramax and I love the power. The feeling of the torque is awesome
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to drive this truck til the wheels come off so resale wasn't even a consideration. Glad youdig your truck, I bet the torque is amazing! Thanks for watching!
@rickg-funk31444 жыл бұрын
One thing that also should come into consideration is the DEF fluid for emissions.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
For sure, thanks for watching!
@MichaelBrown-kk6ck4 жыл бұрын
You can save a bunch on diesel with the TSD Logistics fuel card, often 10-90 cents/gal. I’d miss the diesel pulling power and engine braking in the hills/mountains, tho maybe not so much with a lighter trailer like yours. But with a 14K# trailer the engine brake is comforting. Chasing 70 degrees all year, don’t have to deal with cold starts much. Still, you make a lot of good points and have the personal experience to make an informed choice that’s right for you.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and watching Michael!
@scottyellis34424 жыл бұрын
First mistake was buying a Chrysler product, I've had four myself and all were junk. You'll have good luck with the Chevy.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Lol, yeah, I should have based that decision on my previous experience with Jeeps (they broke down constantly!). I've always had good luck with Chevy. Thanks for watching Scotty!
@DT-kr1km4 жыл бұрын
Bought my ram 3500 4x4 srw new and will be switching to gas for some of the same reasons. And it most likely will be another ram. But that truck is still FAR more reliable, better performing and comfortable than my friends and relatives chubbies and furds. In fact I'll bet i know 5 people who would buy my truck today if it were for sale. Granted I take proper care of it but it has literal given me only two issues. Everyone with the other trucks have had that many issues every couple years. I still get over 20mpg going 70 and I can still tow my trailer like it's nothing. The new ones cost too much, get poor mileage and need additives.
@KamionKing4 жыл бұрын
The only thing is that Cummins is not a Chrysler product
@bobkrunkle56262 жыл бұрын
I had a 2019 3500hd 6.0 gas. Towed my 10k pound camper a few years. It did ok. But barely had the power to hold speed up good hills. Yesterday I traded it for a new 3500hd dura max high country. Today I did a test pull. It had power to spare and could increase speed at a fair pace going up good hills. I dont think I will ever go back. And one day soon we can upgrade to a nice fifth wheel with its 21100 pound bed tow cap.
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Glad the new truck is working out for you. Thanks for watching.
@agreen4814 жыл бұрын
I drive 25,000 miles a year and chose a gasser. However i fo forsee a diesel in my future as my toys are getting bigger 🙃
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Lol, diesels can definitely tow bigger and heavier toys, no doubt! Thanks for watching!
@jnkoa332 жыл бұрын
I did. Reasons are cost of the engine $10k, cost of fuel, cost of maintenance and I dont haul things so I dont need the torque. I'm saving money by having a truck with a gas engine. Good video. Thank you
@ColoradoCamperman2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear I'm not the only one! Thanks for the comment and watching!
@leesantos97114 жыл бұрын
Obviously you did an in- depth research on a serious investment that most people just don't bother doing ! Great job .
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee, I can't tell you how many countless hours I spent researching and trying to figure out this decision! Thanks for watching!
@everettbrown94524 жыл бұрын
I have the same truck, to go camping with. Still looking for a good deal and layout travel trailer. I'm real happy with my purchase. And I still get crap from the other guys.
@ColoradoCamperman4 жыл бұрын
It's been a great truck for us so far! Glad to hear you're happy with your purchase too. Who cares what other people think, if it works for you, that's all that matters. Thanks for watching!