Colosseum of Fools Lore Examined

[@mossbag69]

Correction at 1:24. According to Ari, the Colosseum stretch goal was reached through PayPal donations after the Kickstarter ended. So it technically was funded. So don't get your hopes up for Abyss expansion and playable Zote.

[@dapperboi9905]

K.

[@TheDiamondMc88]

Cool

[@waggledance296]

How did you edit it 20 hours ago

[@ThyBigCheddar]

unfortunate SD Patreons get early videos.

[@Frantikat]

unfortunate SD easy enough if the video wasn’t public till just now, a lot of creators, myself included, occasionally leave a video private while we sort certain aspects. This means the video can be days old before you actually see it leading to misleading time stamp info

[@NeoKingGhidorah]

The Hunter doesn't need lore because he's looking for the lore just like we are

[@mleppp1546]

NeoKingGhidorah the hunter is mossbag’s self-insert CONFIRMED!!! NOT CLUCKBAIT!!!

[@whatthewhatthe9117]

I mean the man both acknowledges the infections power but says aspids and other bugs shoot poison?

[@NeoKingGhidorah]

@@whatthewhatthe9117 they do use poison, they're just also infected ontop of it. hunter has some weird takes but my dude has straight up eaten poison and infection and notes the difference in taste I'm inclined to believe him

[@Oscar97o]

@@whatthewhatthe9117 I'm pretty sure the orange liquid bugs have is supposed to be hemolymph, not infection. It's basically just blood.

[@NeoKingGhidorah]

@@Oscar97o it's a tasty treat is what it is

[@ryderblouin9079]

I love how there is a "zote is void" theory in between the colosseum theories

[@saucepart2electricboogaloo461]

a headcanon for your consideration: failed vessel zote. its my personal headcanon, mainly because i think its funny

[@someguywithatophat7599]

@@saucepart2electricboogaloo461 honestly thats how I role too. Like in fighting games, I will actively choose a funny character because its funny

[@heuclmeucl-heucl5351]

That's so right! The shade trap is how he survived the colosseum! He fought over and over and eventually the public got bored of him and they just released him!

[@VanguardJester]

@@heuclmeucl-heucl5351 Honestly, the thing that makes me question zote the most is the fact that he can survive the knight beating his ass with a PURE FUCKING NAIL for twenty minutes. I legit pogo'd on his head for almost half an hour just to see if he would die and had a ridiculous health pool.

[@gamesgamer2091]

You looking sus bro

[@hippotripo6145]

When someone still thinks Hornet is void in 2020: *You’re not a fool, you’re the entire colosseum.*

[@thegrunch6448]

Lol I'll remember this one

[@brokenvessel1206]

Eheh Edgeworth meme

[@hahatdog2486]

not to be that guy but, this is stolen from a comment in matpat's theory

[@Aresofthevoid]

Comment from mat's dumb theory isn't it?

[@theopinionatedpissstainer4075]

Matpat: YES! I AM

[@irmoony]

I think the "extravagance" in the Hunter's Journal refers to going through the trouble of crafting tiny masks and putting them on tiny bugs, not that the masks themselves are particularly extravagant

[@AkashWShah]

I agree, and even though they are referred to as masks, they seem more like helmets and seem to work more like helmets, protecting the obbles. It seems more like armor than any mystical mask thing, and the hunter is referring to the extravagance of making tiny armor for a tiny bug.

[@Zekiraeth]

It's like if the Romans put armor on the lions in the colosseum in Rome. It's a bit extravagant to craft armor for animals. That's how I see it.

[@donutlovingwerewolf8837]

@@Zekiraeth but it sure would look cool to see armored tigers and lions or heck, maybe even Elephants!

[@LegalVampire]

"crafting tiny masks and putting them on tiny bugs" is such a cute sentence

[@donutlovingwerewolf8837]

@@LegalVampire It is before you gotta fight armoured primal aspids

[@kindofkool5460]

"Silk song could be delayed until december" a relic from the past, a one with hope..

[@PlumOrganization]

so true

[@twixchexmix]

"Those who hope, are already doomed." -Xero

[@cherrytroll4699]

Comment aged like milk

[@stephaniereder]

@@cherrytroll4699💀

[@richiescarf7993]

That poor poor fellow

[@alexdarby2318]

Lord Fool is just you the player waiting for Silk Song

[@Luke-st8bc]

Funny you would mention that...

[@vimies5746]

​@@Luke-st8bc very funny

[@danielturner7436]

MATPAT: Hmm... interesting...

[@OskariaFlame]

You are so damned right bro...

[@the_best_username]

VERY, VERY, INTERESTING.

[@HyperMinecraftGuy]

Why Zote can't get infected by his dreams: he's just built different.

[@salt8816]

@Detlaff von Drac I love that reply so much, thank you

[@aidanithink4596]

The radiance took one look and decided infecting him was a mistake

[@artemisfowldragon]

There isn’t room in his mind for the radiance to take root. Or his mind is just so loud with his ego that it just didn’t want that noise

[@frytoes]

The radiance tried to move in, but the apartment was way to small for her bags and furniture.

[@egesermen]

you can't infect a god

[@slazac7985]

So those spectator bugs paid their entry to the colosseum and have to pay once the Knight wins ? Looks like a scam if you want my opinion.

[@nitoure5252]

Much better than your saving got taken away

[@cloudy772]

Slazac I think its more of a tip sort of thing

[@Msoulwing]

Maybe it's just the people who bet against the Knight paying up.

[@oliviapg]

@@cloudy772 Now I'm imagining that the colosseum is Hallownest's equivalent of a strip club

[@cloudy772]

OwenProGolfer Exactly

[@idanmenaged6337]

0:20 ah yes, when we all thought silksong is only delayed until december

[@rafiazad2271]

He hexed it

[@madao4024]

Joke is on him.

[@largecapybara5424]

Theory about the shade room: In hallownest we find plenty of vessels that seem to have escaped the void and seem to have roamed hallownest. It could be that the fools capture the vessels to fight in the arena and capture their shades after to use them again (as many times as they can). We could see that zote had been captured so he could fight in the arena but most warriors seem to fight because they wanted to be there. Zote might have been mistakes for a vessel and captured for that same reason. Its a shot in the dark but I found it worth mentioning.

[@poucamille9647]

Ooh I like this theory. Btw I thought Note is a Vessel.

[@pustota7254]

*mistaken

[@pustota7254]

​@@poucamille9647 ah yes, Note the vessel.

[@sentientmustache8360]

My theory was that the Hollow Knight was trained in the colosseum

[@daithiluck8749]

Maybe Lord Fool was trying to emulate the effective immortality of the knight and other vessels by creating his own shade to trap and recover? Could explain why he's dead.

[@lobster9424]

I feel robbed knowing a lobster could've been in the game

[@fuze7885]

Team Cherry knows that the power of letting people control the rate at which lobsters die is a power too "powerful"

[@maninhu9837]

But it also mean you eould have to kill a lobster

[@2milk711]

zoidberg?

[@maninhu9837]

@@2milk711 2%? Pff not enough C A L C I U M

[@2milk711]

@@maninhu9837 Hey, I've plenty calcium to spare, for people who prefer milk to just, lard!

[@tomjames9681]

Moss bag: says that the creature corpse that comprises the coliseum possibly has large claws for crawling. Also Mossbag: Complains about Team Cherry not canonising Lobsters.

[@ScrawnyTreeDemon]

Mossbag was boo-boo the fool all along

[@deelightfullp]

It is the lobster

[@yoursleepparalysisdemon6153]

Why did you capitalise the m in mossbag

[@logicalwren8061]

@@yoursleepparalysisdemon6153 Because it's his name

[@doomclasher9287]

@@logicalwren8061 r/whooosh Did I use it right?

[@jss5443]

I think it's good to point to the fact that the god tamer shows emotion when you kill her pet, which implies that or she has a greater will than simple bugs (boring answer) or you may actually be right with your theory, thank you for joining me in my Ted talk

[@augustovasconcellos7173]

Speaking of the God Tamer, I think something pretty major that this video forgot to mention is that the God Tamer boss offers a pretty significant connection to the trilobite statue in Deepnest, which is itself strongly connected to the ancient void civilization from before Hallownest. This is on account of the fact that the "God" that the God Tamer tamed is a quite obviously a trilobite. This not only suggests that there's a connection between Deepnest, the ancient civilization, and the Colosseum, but also implies that aspects of that old civilization still live on in the Colosseum. If that's true, it'd give more credibility to the theory that the Hollow Knight was either secretly or openly trained in the Colosseum, as I'd otherwise see little to no reason for the Pale King to allow for a potentially dangerous remnant of a past empire whose existence he attempted to shroud - a remnant which routinely chains up the Pale King's weaker subjects (such as the Little Fool and the others in the background) - to set up operations right next to his kingdom's capital city.

[@englishmailbox8830]

@@augustovasconcellos7173 I don’t see the connection between the beast and the trilobite.

[@peperoniezflakers719]

comment: speaks "simple bugs" and assumes it's TED talk 1st reply: 2nd reply: &@(@(@**2&@&*@*@92*2*293&9#*@#9#9(33

[@windwaker105]

When it comes to the infection, I believe since the radiance is in the dream world, you can only be infected when sleeping. When you stop Bretta and Sly from being infected they are sleeping. Myla, before showing signs of infection, says she works without sleeping. And Cornifer only sleeps in Dirtmouth.

[@salamisandwich3187]

If myla doesn’t sleep how did she become infected

[@franksonatra]

@@salamisandwich3187 I think she became infected from dreams: not sleep dreams, but "hopes/wishes" kind of dreams. She wants to be rich (which is why she went to the Peaks to collect crystals). So she got infected.

[@devilsblade2543]

@@franksonatra This also makes sense as to why you cannot "wake" her out of it since she is still wanting the crystals if you talk to her

[@danielguerra548]

And i guess cornifer just stops getting infected as he has no more dreams or hopes

[@ikarus4570]

yeah, im 2 years late Tl;dr: pale king stupid ass could've just given lots of coffee to hallownest the implication of the radiance only being able to infect people while they sleep is that the pale king and monomon both are literally the most stupid people in the universe. the solution would be much more straightforward than "finding a perfectly empty vessel", simply make it so bugs don't sleep at all and use the infinite amount of time you'd have from this to think of a way to fully exterminate the radiance. and to say that that'd be hard is... odd, considering how they literally could store infection. making some gauseous substance that keeps everyone awake isn't far-fetched, we literally have emilitia and salubra to prove this

[@Jackson-vr1vf]

"Silksong could be delayed until december" 😭

[@justm3w758]

silksong being delayed until December implies it would come out in 2020

[@astralsailor]

That implies it will come out at all

[@yk-px3gy]

Mwe why are you Bri ish?

[@OliverKehm]

What is this? A heart from mossbag?? hE kNoWs SoMeThiNg!!!

[@hollow1279]

he never said the year

[@abf9112]

How was this posted a day ago and yet the video is released today

[@liltick6133]

For reference a “Wyrm” is a type of dragon with no legs or wings, so I think the lord fool could be a wyrm easily, team cherry probably chose to call it wyrm because a worm is related to the insect kingdom and a wyrm is a mythical powerful being.

[@jedh3721]

"I don't want to think about the implication of bugs breeding other bugs." You do know that ants keep other bugs as livestock, right?

[@RacingSnails64]

NOOOOOOOO

[@TlalocTemporal]

I'll do you one better; Us mammals keep other mammals as cattle, labour, and pets.

[@aaronking2020]

@@TlalocTemporal I'll do you one much, much, worse: Aids originates from monkeys.

[@TlalocTemporal]

@@aaronking2020 -- How do you think koala's got chlamydia?

[@VitZ9]

@@TlalocTemporal That's because we are literally one of the most dominant/common species on the planet? And to be fair, people also keep reptiles, avians and fish for pets, as well as food.

[@TheCrazybloo3]

The godseekers have a room full of zotes of all types. This means zote’s entire family are gods.

[@goonished]

Note: never anger people who can release a boat of zotes.

[@momby557]

oh god your right

[@nnnario877]

@@goonished Zote Boat

[@zotethedead7779]

@@goonished Or a zote of boats

[@lizard7553]

@@goonished zoat/bote

[@rafabichels8148]

The Abyss was a stretch goal we never did reach, though we'd really love to explore it! What you see in the game is actually just the Abyss Shore. The expansion would've taken players down into the lake of void, to explore the twisted space within wait a second WHAT

[@lindylou538]

We could go into the void everyone pay team cherry now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@anotherwea6692]

If you would have payed a couple docen thousands dollars, you could simply dive into a lake full of edgy black creatures and even more bosses and stuff down there.

[@hirahiro2331]

@@anotherwea6692 "Local bug swim in their siblings"

[@4SC0RE]

@@hirahiro2331 he heee

[@flaco3462]

its a shame that not all of the stretch goals for hollow knight were reached, even though there's a fuckton of content already i still can't help but wonder

[@zeppie_]

Cloth is obviously not affected by the infection because she’s wearing her mask

[@whatthewhatthe9117]

The cloth is constricting her airflow and hence cannot be taken over by the radiance as she can’t breathe and is not capable of complex thought Either that or she pulled a zote and doesn’t dream

[@patricklewis9787]

I just love being reminded about the shittiest past like 7 months of my life in every comment section

[@skinnyboi8937]

OBJECTION, she's not wearing a mask

[@pixelcat_yt]

@@skinnyboi8937 yes, she's wearing a bag

[@FlippinEgg]

Speaking of Cloth how does she emote with a mask on

[@nerysstuart4210]

"Why didn't he try to make his own kingdom, or take over Hallownest?" Well, there's still the ever confusing "Battle of Blackwyrm" that the White Defender's journal entry speaks of. It's quite possible that a wyrm did try to take over Hallownest, but the Five Great Knights managed to best it. Perhaps, under the Pale King's instructions, they didn't kill it for fear of it being reborn like the Pale King, and instead chained it up in the outskirts of the kingdom. As to how that eventually led to Lord Fool coming out of the Wyrm and starting a Coliseum without the Pale King shutting it down, eh. Who knows

[@TheDuckyDino]

"You are not a fool, you are, the entire colosseum"

[@dreamerhammerspace]

So about the wyrm theory: 1) Claws: Bardoon specifies that he has "Too many limbs," instead of just saying that he has limbs at all. Now Bardoon has at least 8, which would mean that Wyrms have at most 6. It is entirely possible that the digging claws that the Colosseum bug/wyrm has are the only limbs that it actually possesses. It is also entirely possible that the Cast-off shell, i.e the Pale King has them as well, but that they are just buried in the ground and are thus not visible. 2) Eyes: It's entirely possible that genetic differences between Wyrms cause different head shapes, like how each vessel has differently-shaped horns. 3) Butthole: Also, it's entirely possible that over the years, the back of the Colosseum Bug/Wyrm simply decayed to where it just fell off. It's also probable that this was a deliberate action by the Lord Fool, the Colosseum Bug/Wyrm's reincarnation. Either way, the back of the Colosseum is likely not the true back end of the Colosseum Bug/Wyrm. 4) Battle of the Blackwyrm / Deliberate action: Ogrim's journal entry references a 'Battle of the Blackwyrm' that happened sometime in Hallownest's history. This theory states that the Lord Fool once tried to take over Hallownest for himself, with this invasion being swiftly handled by the Five Great Knights. One version of the theory states that the Lord Fool was killed here, with the Colosseum being constructed as a mockery to the Lord Fool. A second version of the theory states that the Lord Fool then surrendered, building the Colosseum out of his previous form as a form of entertainment for the bugs of Hallownest before dying of an unknown cause. Either way, the building of the Colosseum is likely why we don't see the egg that the Lord Fool came from. P.S: 5) The Shade Trap: I have no explanation for the shade trap. The most likely theory I have for it that coincides with the Wyrm theory is that the Hollow Knight was trained at the Colosseum, and was built as a fail-safe in case it died in combat. Conclusion: it's still entirely possible that the Colosseum bug / Lord Fool is a Wyrm.

[@cheescakeissin8271]

Lord fool most likely died of void poisoning because you can see in his eyes that they are leaking void

[@theboi6404]

I have a headcanon that the void chamber was built to try and prevent the infection. Void can oppose it, so infected fools would stand in the chamber for a while as the infection temporarily cleared. I think it stopped working because the fools ran out of void to place inside the chamber (notice how the chamber only activates when your shade, a completely void creature is inside)

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

@@cheescakeissin8271 aren't those cracks in his shell?

[@KoiosDusklight]

I was thinking the same. Even if he couldn't take over Hallownest (assuming he even wanted to), he did pull a lot of bugs into his thrall and ruled over his own little domain until he died on his throne, and the arena fight goes on even after his death, which seems to parallel how some bugs maintain intelligence in Hallownest even without the Pale King, if they haven't been infected by the Radiance.

[@KoiosDusklight]

Also, if the lord Fool is the reincarnated form of the Wyrm the colosseum is inside, it would make sense that the head of the wyrm form resembles the head of the bug form, just like the spikes on the cast off shell resembling the head of the Pale King. And it having a darker body than the cast off shell behind the head leads some credence to it being the Blackwyrm. If it is the Blackwyrm, that would explain the spiked chains going into the head and eyes of the head. As for the butthole, it could also have been severed on injured during the battle, leading it to break apart quicker. Or it might just be a shortie.

[@nettlesomenpc889]

mossbag's rambling is what's keeping me sane till Silksong comes out

[@annmousxusr]

Me too

[@me-qh7bx]

Are you still sane after seven months?

[@nettlesomenpc889]

@@me-qh7bx no

[@theoverlord2851]

@@nettlesomenpc889 how insane are you now

[@andreamaertens7004]

Me too

[@exzyyd392]

Obviously Team Cherry knows how dangerous it is to allow someone to control the speed at which lobsters die

[@goosebearies]

good comment

[@Nilon241]

8:38 I always assumed that group of dream nail lines was specifically for non-sentient creatures like maskflies, moss crawlers etc. The way it's worded sounds more like the base instincts of an animal rather than a mind deluded by the Radiance. The regular husk type enemies have dream nail diaolige with a lot more mind, if that makes any sense.

[@OctolinkG]

"Silksong could be delayed until like- December and I would still have stuff to talk about" mossbag, three years later:

[@gabefredrich309]

At this point, the community is just making lore for team cherry

[@auroriasolaris]

"If Lord Fool was a Wyrm why it doesn't want to create kingdom or take over Hallownest?" Because he was a FOOL

[@Chegmorus]

I like to think he did try (battle of black wyrm) but failed and because of that he’s referred to as “the lord fool”

[@RacingSnails64]

@@Chegmorus That's a good idea

[@siruv193]

Sorry, mossgoofyhead but at 8:04 he clearly is about to join an avant-garde dark jazz band. I know musical genres are complex and often confusing but you shouldn't have messed up on this one At least a confusion with a french classical neo-wind quartet would have been understandable, but alternative cultic punk rock? Really?

[@gustavofernandes3934]

Hey Siruv, fellow Mosscordian.

[@siruv193]

:howdy: heya G, hows the wife?

[@englishmailbox8830]

Sup Siruv what’s your opinion on airplane food

[@siruv193]

@@englishmailbox8830 I'd rather have bread :zote:

[@Atzay]

Man Darkjazz is actually a freaking great genre

[@xan8636]

team cherry's gonna see this and think "yeah, that sounds plausible, it's canon now"

[@moss5356]

there just making it up as they go lol

[@cee_ves]

“Silksong could be delayed until December” Maybe it’s next December....

[@wyattmurphy7153]

Or the one after that…

[@goobermcnoober8140]

@@wyattmurphy7153 or the one after that…

[@mariajosephaquindo1256]

@@goobermcnoober8140 or the one after that...

[@fennyfoxy3435]

@@mariajosephaquindo1256 or the one after that...

[@randomlyrapid8996]

@@fennyfoxy3435 or the one after that...

[@anonymousperson7204]

The true fools are those who say that hornet is void.

[@africkingupsidedownmountai7362]

Yes

[@alexdacat4026]

Me, who was aware Hornet is void till this summer: My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined

[@christiandauz3742]

Maybe Hornet will gain Void powers in Silksong so she can unleash her inner 'Beast' and destroy the Church of Pharloom?

[@christiandauz3742]

@@TimothyMark7 I doubt she will ever get fat even when having a child. Emperor of Pharloom and Hallownest sounds like a great title

[@kity1081]

Y E S

[@trademarkshelton]

Lobsters are great and all, but I don't think they deserve to be canonized until we see them perform at least a couple of miracles

[@mystic_pizza]

Talk to the mighty lord blue lobster and you'll change your mind instantly

[@archdruidbookwalter951]

I have a headcanon that I think is cool, that the Lord Fool was killed by a vessel. Specifically, a vessel's shade. They died in the arena, and then the shade came out and killed the Lord Fool. That's why his eyes have void tears. Maybe that's why they have a room specifically designated to trap shades now.

[@herobrans7594]

Don't like you own comment scumbag

[@cheesedogg805]

The black stuff around the eyes doesn’t have to be void all the time. For example No Eyes has the same black marks which are more than likely just dried blood.

[@taoboyce6412]

@Ninjakitten42 No, the vessel shades are canon. You can see the vessel shades in the void, so this theory still might hold water. He was also saying that the weird room that the shade appears in the coliseum was built after the Lord Fool died.

[@Dinoman972]

@Ninjakitten42 But the siblings are hostile towards the Knight.

[@ludrawsyt9346]

@Ninjakitten42 tho the inclosure the shade is in is called a shade trap specifically, so how could it get out if it's supposed to be trapped?

[@theukon-dos7271]

Something worth noting (Nearly 2 years late) is that the drawing of the Colosseum at 13:04 makes the arms/pincers look more like a set of mandibles, Which would be much more consistent with what we assume Wyrms are like.

[@8Eli]

I knew I wouldn’t be the only one to notice that

[@martinj3239]

"Silksong could be delayed until December"... uhm...

[@leggomyeggo5773]

good news: in silksong there are seashells so lobster lancer could come back

[@seafoamspirit3484]

The aphid(?) beast died but the Godtamer herself did not. Coincidence? No, this is just set up fo

[@isaacgalvan4997]

@@seafoamspirit3484 poor guy got assassinated by team cherry before he could finish his theory on canon lobst

[@SuperLegend1962]

@@isaacgalvan4997 lmao "He knows too much"

[@superlagbro192]

That would actually be really cool tho if God tamer reappears on a lobster. And assuming silksong is a sequel, God tamer could be harder now because she was training to get revenge on the kinght

[@guiltygem2112]

What about the crab from the original map

[@alexs9514]

“I wonder what productive things I will be doing today...”, proceeds to fill a petition for getting lobsters in a video game.

[@marnie364]

I’m still sure that the Colosseum creature is a wyrm. It would be weird for TC to have the Lord fool’s corpse on its throne, almost exactly situated like the pale king. There has to be some sort of parallel there.

[@professorgrimm4602]

Yeah. My theory is: We now that there are higher beings and then pale beings, which seem to be even greater then higher beings. So what if there's also different kinds of wyrms: Normal (or lesser) wyrms and pale wyrms. So the Lord Fool was a regular wyrm (a powerful being but not nearly as powerful as the pale king) while the pale king was a pale wyrm. I think the Lord Fool arrived first here and died to reincarnate as a bug and found the colloseum, then the pale kign arrived and died to reincarnate as a bug and form hallownest. And the pale king agreed to leave the Lord Fool alone, as logn as he wouldn't influence the world beyong the colloseum and would listen to the pale king (work together with hallownest, maybe trian the Hollow Knight). Then, when the infection started, the Lord Fool died because the Radiance tried to kill every higher being she encountered.

[@vuikun]

In the White Defender's journal entry, it mentions something about the battle of the Black Wyrm. What if the colosseum was made out of the corpse of it?

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

That’s basically fan fiction lmao. There’s nothing except a vague parallel between the lord fool and the PK, and it’s just that: a parallel meant to show two different monarchs that met the same fate. There’s no actual evidence that suggests that the colosseum bug is a wyrm. Also, Ellina recognizes the cast off shell as a wyrm, but only calls the colosseum “the corpse of a large hug”. Add that to everything mentioned in the video and it’s basically impossible for the colosseum to be built inside the remains of a wyrm

[@rudiherrig2446]

I think if the Colosseum/ Lord Fool was a wyrm wouldn't the godtamers have mentioned it. They even mention Unn, so i think they would mention the power of a dead wyrm.

[@markf4765]

(Cough) battle of the black wyrm (cough)

[@keratuan]

„Silksong could be delayed until… december And i’d still have plenty to talk about“ Colosseum of fools lore examined 3 years ago

[@MilkMan55555]

“Silksong could be delayed until December” yeah well about that

[@IAmSirOblivious]

The idea that THK was trained in the colo is really neat. It could maybe also explain why the Lord fool seems to have died from void exposure (he seems to have void leaking from his eyes like others who died from it). Just a thought :)

[@Blue-vs6fj]

Yeah, but I dont think lord fool died from void exposure, the Vessel contains the void, it is'nt made of actual void, unlike the collector, who is purely made of void. So, creatures can die from void exposure, but it is only when they are exposed to pure void, the Vessel is part Pale King, aka, not void, so it is'nt pure void.

[@tposingukiki]

Those claws would have been for more than attracting mates.

[@thatguyintherain3168]

Big. Meaty. C L A W S.

[@demented7853]

Silksong comes out when my flight takes place: my flight has been delayed 7 times so far and looking to be more update: its been delayed thrice more since, and pulled back once. I have no idea whats going on. update: it has been delayed three to four more times since the last comment, it is now nov. 26th update: delayed twice more since, now its on the 11th of december update: I finally managed to leave on the 26th of december (the same day we got news on the magazine... coincidence?)

[@captaindonut5240]

Sux to suc

[@greedycursedc_rat_ckhead3649]

RIP, sorry to hear that (silksong has a release date????)

[@merryhee6947]

Greedy Cursed C_rat_ckhead the joke is that he doesn’t know when he’s having his flight as it’s been delayed so many times. we don’t have a known release date at the current time

[@greedycursedc_rat_ckhead3649]

@@merryhee6947 Gods im an idiot, thanks for clarifying and sorry for ruining the joke

[@sparkypack]

Just play Hollow Knight in the meantime. If you beat it, just play again.

[@Amirrorofmirrors]

“Silksong could be delayed until December and I would still have plenty to talk about” - mossbag 3 years ago

[@georgiam6486]

I've always thought the bug at 10:10 committed suicide- that it specifically went to the edge of the kingdom, to be free from the king and the mind and be "released"

[@supersquid9902]

At 6:07 the stab chords of the music sync up with his pogoing almost perfectly

[@emeraldheart1224]

That's funny :D

[@BunsGlazing768]

yoooooo

[@minerman60101]

5:55 Mossbag has the footage of this specific precept. He had to have repeatedly talked to Zote until either he had this specific one, or he just got footage of every single one. Dedication like this is what gets us this amazing content

[@chimcham300]

Guys, I if this petition gets signed, I think there’s a fifty percent chance that red lobster may become a new location in hollow knight silksong, let’s make it happen!

[@lindylou538]

I have signed

[@RedPandaSmash]

There's no way no one has suggested this, and I was surprised the idea wasn't mentioned in the video, but it would make sense if the corpse that the colosseum is contained in is not just any wyrm but the blackwyrm. Whenever the pale king and his 5 great knights won the battle of the blackwyrm, it's not a stretch to say that the pale king wanted to immortalize the battleground as a sort of long-standing warning to those who would dare oppose his rule.

[@Alex16582O]

This theory had already been suggested. I saw a video of a French guy saying more about it. The theory was that the "big worm" at the Colosseum of fools is a wyrm and since he's dead he must have transformed such as the pale wyrm did. Maybe the black wyrm is the Hunter. Since he was killed, maybe the egg inside it did not reach maturity and that's why he looks like a skeleton and so, is hiding himself. So the theory is more the Hunter is the black wyrm. Also, since the king can't leave Hallownest, the fight must have been close to the kingdom (Because the fighters would have lost their memories if it was far but considerating that the king participated in the fight, he couldn't go very far). That's why it's a good point that the worm at the Colosseum may be the black wyrm I think the guy's channel is Sulfury, if you're interested, idk if there are subtitles

[@stevent3676]

My main theory is that the giant corpse the coliseum is based in is what's referred to as a "black Wyrm", and that at some point, the Lord Fool DID have plans to try and conquer some or most of Hallownest, but the five Great Knights basically put a stop to it, and so the name "Battle of the Black Wyrm" was used to refer to that specific battle.

[@yoohoo713]

5:35 "Ok is nobody going to talk about the vore fetish part???"

[@immagical7036]

What do you mean??

[@yoohoo713]

@@immagical7036 It was just a weird funny comment he added that I just wanted to point out

[@immagical7036]

@@yoohoo713 oh alright, thank you

[@Jay-nh6um]

Actually, the Colosseum is a place to relax, forget about rules or lore and just obliterate whatever shit pops to your face.

[@RacingSnails64]

It's like a 24/7 Purge in one little corner of the kingdom

[@moonsidemarshmallow91]

YESSSS DEPRESSED MAN TALKING ABOUT BUGS HAS GRACED US WITH AN UPLOAD

[@victorhugo-od9ek]

I never even considered mossbag being a depressed guy, buy now it makes so much sense, but now I'm wondering why the fuck did I not notifice it before

[@thebighurt2495]

That is one of the best simple explanations of Mossbag in general I have ever seen.

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

i think the void abyss seems to be an ever present layer deep in the planet that hollow knight takes place in. akin to digging too deep in Dwarf Fortress, if a civilization digs down too far they can encounter this primordial void.

[@Snt1_]

"Silksong could be delayed until... december" Me almost 3 years later: Hahaha, what a fool

[@MalakaiDerg]

I hate it here

[@Luke_SkywaIker]

Maybe we’re all fools

[@smutnejajo5149]

"I don't even want to think about the implications of bugs forcing other bugs to breed" Yeah, it'd be like mammals forcing other mammals to breed. I'm so glad nobody does that, am I right?

[@emeraldheart1224]

Haha

[@ilianb306]

Yeah but in this world every bug cantalk to each other and have the same kind of consciousness if they are from Hallownest

[@Berserkrrr437]

​@@ilianb306 Medieval forced marriages count as humans forcing humans to breed

[@avery5920]

@@ilianb306 what about a gruzzer

[@ghostly360]

arranged marriage:

[@tomm5663]

I think the most likely reason for the void trap is that the Hollow Knight trained there. The King and the Lord Fool struck a deal in which the colosseum would remain in operation under the condition that they train his vessel. If we want to take this further, we can guess that The Lord Fool was killed by an outburst from the Hollow Knight. This would explain his bleeding eyes, despite the lack of other void in the area.

[@sparkypack]

But the show must go on 🎉

[@springshowers4754]

This idea is really interesting 🤔

[@stormRed]

I'll never get tired of this guy's humor

[@justsomeguywithamustache3489]

I find the idea of giant bugs watching and making bets on smol bugs fighing to their death the funniest shit ever

[@gruntonium1669]

"it can be delayed until december" famous last words

[@derphunk5338]

9:16 Holy shit I never realized what that dialogue meant. That’s fucking metal.

[@nikosaarinen3258]

My theory is that the colosseum was in fact a wyrm. Ogrim (I think) talks about the battle of the Blackwyrm, which may very well be the battle this wyrm was slain in. It could've originally been a training arena for the kingsmoulds and other void constructs, and ultimately for the hollow knight. Also, if this was the Blackwyrm, it seems likely that it would originate from the abyss. In that case the shade trap could have been constructed around/based on the egg the Lord Fool reincarnated in.

[@luvw.6038]

Theory: the trilobite in the trilobite shrine is the fast travel creature in silksong

[@yoursleepparalysisdemon6153]

Oooh I like this that could be true

[@robinmeehan5900]

It’s not true, the fast travel creature in the trailer looks nothing like the trilobite shrine

[@АлександрСергеев-б9б6в]

That if trilobite - is a god of Lifeblood in Abyss?

[@kaelentamayo7310]

"silk song could be delayed till December and I would still have content"

[@kaelentamayo7310]

Silksong still isnt out 9 months later smh

[@genobrosX]

If I head to guess why certain bugs fell to infection when other's didn't, it might be down a combination of exposure, support structures and engagement. The infection is tied to dreams and idle minds divorced from people to help keep one grounded could make someone vulnerable. Cornifer spends a lot of time down in hallownest alone, but he could be making frequent visits back to the surface and is also engaged in a relatively engaging mental task: the plotting and making of maps. Lovebug and What's his face on the other hand are alone and seem to be mostly pottering about doing nothing until you save them. Easy for the mind to wander when you're all alone with nothing and no one to distract you. Same principle for the minerbug, a long, draw-out repetitive task gives lots of space for the infection to worm its way in. The colosseum of fools has a big bloody spectacle to focus on, either watching or participating, which might help insulate them from truly falling to the infection. We also don't know just how quickly someone goes from "Hmm weird feeling" to "eat, EAT", so it's possible they're just keeping on warriors in the early stages of the infection and tossing out anyone who loses their wits.

[@phrax6767]

Colosseum of Fools? More like uhm uhhhhhhhhhh more uhmmmm uhhhh Colos- no no that’s not funny uh more like colosseum of lame bugs! Yeah yeah that was funnier haha.

[@eserionari8628]

:zotewheeze:

[@gustavofernandes3934]

@@eserionari8628 :zote:

[@Erratic_Pulse_0758]

More like bore ragnarok

[@froggod5543]

@@Erratic_Pulse_0758 do you watch the great Callmekevin by any chance?

[@Erratic_Pulse_0758]

Frog God of course, but I am not able to that often due to being stuck in Jim’s basement

[@tanksear]

I remember seeing the two hot spring bugs before I got the dream nail. Then they disappeared, and I haven't seen them since, and this is the first time I've ever seen them mentioned. Thanks for reassuring me that I'm not going insane.

[@evankrueger7321]

“Silk song could be delayed until likeeee December” :(

[@TheCaptainP1]

Little did we know how significant this lobster would become

[@hoyitsmiguel]

Maybe the shade trap has something to deal with what possibly looks like void-ish traces on the Lord Fool around the eyes? And they possibly used it to trap and contain Void, but then it would only serve to explain how the Lord Fool could have died without explaining how all the audience bugs are still alive

[@thegreendragon9628]

What's interesting to me is that the lord fools head is shaped similarly to the head of creature the Colosseum is in just like the pale king is to the wyrm it came from, so that's something to think about

[@markf4765]

I never noticed that before ... that’s really cool

[@papagarv]

11:40 - these "little claws" look more like mandibles to me (similar to a garpede), especially in the drawing shown at 13:02

[@mochatoast887]

I wonder if the King of Fools is like a lesser version of the Pale King. Being a worm who tranformed and his carcass became what the Colleseum of Fools is now. He died on his throne and was okay with it being built as an arena cause he may also crave fighting.

[@eon1951]

"silksong could be delayed until.. december, and i'd still have plenty to talk about!" wow, what a stretch. obviously it will come out before then right

[@cheesedogg805]

Ok so more evidence against the Wyrm theory: From what I remember the colosseum takes up about as much length on the map as Bardoon, not counting the fact that Bardoon curls up in the background or anything. Bardoon mentions that he’s too small to be a Wyrm, so it would be weird for the Colosseum bug to be a Wyrm and still be shorter than him. The Wanderer’s Journal also tells us that the Colosseum is built in a bug. I don’t know if Wyrms can be considered bugs but we do have the line “Wyrms pull bug into their thrall” which sets apart the two. It’s also strange that there’s no mention of another Wyrm. All in all it’s kind of a stretch to say that this thing could be a Wyrm.

[@rudiherrig2446]

Yeah i think if it was a wyrm the godtamers would mention it at some point, as they mention all other higher beings.

[@bleddynwolf8463]

@@rudiherrig2446 thats a point i hadn't considered

[@joaoemanuel9187]

I always thought that the warriors of the coliseum of the fools had let themselves be infected to become stronger, I thought there was a period of time between being infected and being completely corrupted by the infection, that is, they fight between that period and, after being completely consumed by the infection they were killed and thrown out of the coliseum, I don't know if it was possible to understand very well

[@aldguton]

The extravagance refers to the creation of a mask for a lesser bug

[@PhailRaptor]

About 13:34 -- the Shade Trap Something that I noticed, which you do not point out in the video, is the fact that the Fool King's eyes bear the tell-tale sign of Void. It's not entirely in focus, but he bears the Void-tears that other characters killed by Void exhibit -- the guy in the Lighthouse, the highborn bug in the Queen's Garden with the key to the Love Tower, and that one Ghost Bug from the Stone Temple. It also appears that it's not just the Shade Trap itself that has ties to the ancient Void worshipping civilization predating Hallownest. The entire floor of the Colosseum's lower level uses the same pavers as the Ancient Basin.

[@darrenaspann4963]

mossbag: explains all the lore of the Colosseum of Fools Me: who can't get past the first level

[@Araraura1]

man those are truly ched hours here :feelspkman:

[@phrax6767]

It’s certainly sad to see Ara.

[@ericcgb6872]

Excuse me 23 hrs ago?

[@Wangable]

@@ericcgb6872 They get Early Access

[@malware2128]

Giovero Ferdian how

[@Wangable]

@@malware2128 They're staffs of the discord server

[@thirdmusketeerunderscore]

"Why would people *willingly* get together in the midst of a viral pandemic?" All of America: You underestimated my power

[@annaclarallb]

Brazil liked this comment

[@Fantallana]

Or lack thereof

[@charlesnojinson4760]

*Most of

[@thirdmusketeerunderscore]

@@charlesnojinson4760 of course, I was just making the haha funny

[@phantasma2630]

He calls the part seen next to the giant corpse a “claw” when in the map artwork, its clearly a mandible, could still be some kind of wyrm/worm

[@yes-en5sy]

"Silksong could be delayed until December" crys in march 2022

[@JustBearly]

I figured the "shade trap" is where corpses go when they go through the floor. After their weapons are taken, the bodies are dumped

[@starsofskies2328]

When mossbag lore video comes out: what the hell will he put together now that he's covered pretty much everything

[@anireko8229]

mossbag: "Silksong could be delayed until December, and I'd still have lots to talk about." Well, that didn't age well.

[@aamonesamiit-baur2857]

I believe that as long as the fools wear the mask, fighting in the colosseum becomes more important than submitting to the radiance, no matter what.

[@decca1810]

It’s sad to watch this and hear him say ‘silk song could be delayed till December and I would be fine’

[@DeathRunner7564]

“Silksong could be delayed until December, and I’d still have plenty to talk about.” Released: October 2020 *Currently: December 2021*

[@urhsajtegel952]

update: december 2022

[@wodawiod5447]

“silksong could be delayed until December” haha yeah

[@MetroAndroid]

"Silksong could be delayed until December, and I'd still have plenty to discuss." If only he knew.

[@fuze7885]

0:18 cries in christmas eve* hopefully well get it for christmas! merry christmas everyone!

[@wesleyhenderson2621]

HA

[@evernevers5390]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHSGDKDJBDIXHXHDJD

[@chefgreasypaw7816]

That’s funny

[@thewritingrowlet2980]

@@chefgreasypaw7816indeed it is

[@korok7523]

Three year mark

[@godminnette2]

"Some of these bugs are wearing crafted, extravagant masks, that don't seem too important on the **face** of it." Good video.

[@mryeet3582]

If lobsters were a thing in HK, we would've been able to make a "aerodynamics of a Hollow Knight lobster" meme but team cherry decided to go with some random bug I don't know shit about :zote: :beesive:

[@mochas5106]

I located the yeet

[@eserionari8628]

:knightf:

[@demented7853]

I see you there yeet you cant hide

[@siruv193]

:howdy: hey yeet, grinding much? :zote:

[@mochas5106]

So many people are gonna be this and be really confused :zote:

[@justcallmelucky4577]

0:29 Hah... December... *two years later*

[@fathinthin790]

To be fair he only say December He didn't say anything about the year It could be December 2030 or 3020 or any other year

[@Splatfan92]

*3 years later*

[@iamjustafisj]

womp womp

[@NiteMarauder]

Mossbag: silk song could delay till December and I’d still have stuff to talk about Me: *laughs in sad*