Combat Mission Units: BMP-3

[@muhammadtjokroaminoto4523]

3:36 is the reason that the Indonesian Marine Corps uses their BMP-3F as an Amphibious Light Tank rather than an IFV, its firepower and amphibious capability is really amazing

[@burningphoneix]

About the UAE's deployment of BMP-3s to Yemen, it didn't seem to be a large number of them, perhaps only a brigade's worth, and they were used extensively at the very beginning of the campaign in Aden and the campaigns around it in 2015/early 2016. After that, it pretty much disappears from view. No known units lost. It could be that the performance wasn't satisfactory but most likely the initial campaigns were the only ones that had decent flat ground to drive them around in. After that you get mountainous terrain and its never fun to move armored forces in mountains with ATGMs in every nook and cranny waiting for you.

[@aleksaradojicic8114]

From what I heard/read, BMP-3 showed to be nice combination whit Leclerc tanks and infantry. But like you said, after that there is no info about BMP-3 in Yemen.

[@rinzler7795]

This is a really well done video, not just for the game but like in terms of actually understanding how the systems work! Excellent overview!

[@sullybiker6520]

Revisiting _CMBS_ Russian campaign I've become quite fond of it. It is very..explodey..as you point out, but there's little better for infantry support. Following Russian doctrine and using it closely with your squad, the big gun in particular is really handy on foxholes and tree lines. To my amazement two keyhole 'bumpies' (as my son calls them) made short work of a T-84 that charged through a tree line in front of them. At about 300yds they pounded it with 30mm, knocking it out by the end of the turn. I think they did so much system damage in the first bursts it could not shoot back. They stand their ground, too. They won't just back away immediately. On the other hand if you spit at it, it explodes with enough force to level a street.

[@gunnersabottank9474]

I just played a Black Sea match using BMP-3Ms and, despite what was mentioned in this video, were absolutely all over those GLATGMS, using them for every Bradley they could get a solution on. So, I think, as someone else mentioned here, that there may have been some changes to the tacAI logic that makes the AI way more willing to use the AT 10. Perhaps there was a patch or something that changed the logic there, as this video was probably accurate when published. For reference, it was a quick battle, moderate fog, with about 700m engagement range. AT 10s were being pulled from magazines and the BMPs were visibly steering the shots, so I'm certain it was missiles and not just well aimed 100mm shots. It didn't stop the BMPs from exploding all over the place though. ATGMs or not, damn things are as fragile as a wet paper towel.

[@kosomolsk]

Frustrated about dying BMPs, I actually made two scenarios that consisted of flat grass fields, placed a platoon of BMPs on one side and Bradleys on the other, set them to their "best visibility" (so some extra crew for BMP w/ Open Up and closed for Bradley) and let the TacAI have a shootout. The sense I got is that overall Bradley has an advantage because it is just a little bit faster on the draw and TacAI recommends it fire its cannon more often. Basically if the BMP draws a AT-10 and the Bradley goes for guns BMP just dies. Also, LASER WARNING means Bradley is always aware of BMP's existence while the reverse is not true. My overall sense is that one on one you can expect 90% chance the Bradley would win at both 300 and 1000m. However, if it's platoon on platoon, BMP actually has a less than 50%, but still decent chance for coming out ahead. Often there would be a surviving BMP and it will take out multiple Brads. Nevertheless, I never had a run where BMP suffered no losses, while there are runs where Bradleys win 3-0.

[@arandomperson7713]

@@kosomolsk The BMP-3M, with the commander opened up, has less visibility because the commander is poking his head out of his hatch instead of manning the thermals, while the buttoned up Bradley's commander would use his thermals, increasing his visibility

[@jackiekennedy4902]

This is honestly my favourite series of videos on the citadel

[@insectus1]

These indepth looks at specific units are my favourite, and a great help at understanding everything thats going on under the hood.

[@ТомасКатц]

2:28 This one is BMD-4, not BMP-3.

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Good spot! I missed that completely. FIngers crossed it turns up with the VDV though.

[@rocketmancmbn]

Very nice overwiev. Great looking tracking shots of ATGMs.

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Thanks very much!

[@sergiocv1467]

2:58 Just one note, it has also fought in the recent 2 Karabakh war on the azeri side. Unfortunetly there isnt too much information, neither too many videos about its use in the war (possibly because of its relativily speaking limited use, due the total dominance of the turkish and israeli drones in the war); althought there is atleast one BMP3 confirmed destroyed and I am sure that if one starts digging, some videos of it fighting should surface.

[@fandovec03]

I am looking forward to T-54/55/62 guide.

[@benjaminrush4443]

What an awesome upgrade in competing with the Bradley. Thank you.

[@katamariroller2837]

The BMP-3 has firing ports? What are they, the Navy?

[@Spider-Too-Too]

At least it is not a recon car that’s bigger than a tank

[@usuallyhapless9481]

It can swim...

[@katamariroller2837]

@@Spider-Too-Too It´s a quasi-tank that has less armor than a snow-blower, but has enough ammo to take on half of DC...

[@Spider-Too-Too]

@@katamariroller2837 in this case, kiev

[@burningphoneix]

Russians love those firing ports for some reason. They are infected with the ghost of Patton.

[@whyme943]

In-game, how can you engage over a wall as you demonstrated here with the air burst? Shown at about 6:12. Or were you engaging spotted infantry?

[@michelthater4361]

Thank you so much for this. Very well done!

[@capthawkeye8010]

BMP-3 was always going to be a hard sell to any soldier who doesn't want to sit in a 19 ton bomb carrying a full load of 100mm and 30mm rounds behind only 35mm of armor. The BMP-2 has at least a modest chance of avoiding a brew up when hit-which is an often-unmentioned reason why it was preferred over its predecessor the BMP-1. The BMP-3 brings back the first vehicle worst traits and has unsurprisingly been avoided by many foreign buyers.

[@robbob9273]

Let them walk then.... what are mines and machine guns after all.

[@badgamer7593]

7:19 How do you stop the enemies from attacking you?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Playing in hotseat mode, then giving the targets target arcs and pause commands to stop them doing anything. It doesn't always work :P

[@nicholasshaler7442]

2:47 Turns out invading your neighbor forces you to turn to designs with fleshed out manufacturing processes and designs. Who knew?

[@nks406]

Bradley was immune the syrian Bmp-2 probably because they were modeled with full caliber 30mm AP rounds, which both the Bradley and the Bmp-3 can(should) resist at normal combat ranges. APDS ammo makes swiss cheese from any cold-war era IFV though. Also the Bmp-3 not being able to penetrate the side of an abrams while being able to penetrate a heavily angled 80mm plate just screams bullshit to me.

[@patrickdriscoll1632]

From what I understand the Abram’s doesn’t really have much armor on its sides at all. Hence the ERA on the sepv2

[@robbob9273]

Game is not accurate

[@martinleifnymark7432]

Why is there no HEAT round for this vehicle?

[@simonliin]

Excellent video, as always :)

[@gnarlyification]

Nice work Hap. I do believe that was the Gagrina Ave Checkpoint map..!

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Yep, that bit at the end. I replayed it as aggressively as possible to get some combat footage. And to see how fast I could do it.

[@arikcarmi]

Can you make more videos like this? Very interesting and helpful 😊👍

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Yes ;)

[@Themaritimes99]

Just top notch content!

[@alexwilson4792]

I'd love to see an overview of the German Bundeswehr from the NATO dlc in CMSF2. I just bought the dlc and I thought their squad organization was interesting and wondering if there were any tips you could pass along regarding their small 6-man squads

[@holoween8103]

A few short pointers: 1. The marder is an integral part of the squad. Without its close support they wont perform well. 2. They are a force with great firepower but low staying power. Use the extra ammo especially for the pzf and liberally use supression fires including from the marder. 3. They are a combined arms unit dont use them as infantry with random light armour attached like you would for the american mechanized infantry.

[@Spider-Too-Too]

You should check out OP’s video titled semper Gumby. He fought against German as us marine. Interesting fight

[@usuallyhapless9481]

What Holoween said!

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

@@holoween8103 What's your opinion on the British forces, may i ask?

[@holoween8103]

@@RomanHistoryFan476AD In SF2 they are basically a discount american army. Similar organisation and equippment and they play practically the same. Only they dont have quite as many javelins and tows.

[@stardekk1461]

Great video !

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Cheers man!

[@kondor99999]

I love at 30:27 how the panicking BMP driver (after taking a hit) damn near reverses over the squad dismounting from another BMP. It’s sort of eerie in CM how I will randomly see shit that I’ve seen happen (or in this case, nearly happen) IRL. I don’t recommend this game to anyone with PTSD.

[@AllenZakiv]

does the BMP-3M uses the same missile as the regular? IRL the Russian BMP-3 and BMP-3M would have access to the Tandem heat ATGMs like the 9M117M kan (1993) witch has 600mm pen and the 9M117M1(2005) with 750mm of pen.

[@CarlosZig]

i looked trough the manual and there is nothing pointing out the Bastion ATGM Upgrade, maybe some testing may point out the diference (Or not) of the system

[@usuallyhapless9481]

I did do some testing and it seems like it's the same missile with the single-stage HEAT. It would have been a bit of a game changer to get one of the tandem HEAT variants.

[@CarlosZig]

it's very odd that not even the M variant has the upgrade, and that no one had made that point since the lauch. Maybe the launch on steam on bring some light onto this and maybe we get an patch? i doubt it, put it would be very interesting. I personally think that the BMP-3 is one of the best all around IFV'S in the world, if not the best (CV-90 comes to mind too, but it doesn't have the sole firepower the BMP has). I would love to see the Bastion in play for this

[@kosomolsk]

@12:05 You might want to experiment with hand grenades against them - the game just claimed I lost TWO BMPs to a Forward Observer team armed with Hand Grenades - it seems they used about 3 grenades to do it, and I was hardly next to them - maybe 50 meters away.

[@arandomperson7713]

I think you mean the underbarrel grenade launchers on most NATO infantry, as they have very nasty HEAT warheads that will eviscerate BMPs, BTRs, and MTLBs from all angles, (save for the APS and ERA variants of the BMP3M), and most MBTs if they can get a hit on a non-ERA-ed part of the hull

[@corteaz]

Hapless think a Black Sea campaign is in your future at all? Especially with the Steam releasing having 2 additional campaigns as DLC (one is Styker based and the other Motor Rifle).

[@Matias-ub9pz]

Great video! Don't get me started on the fact that you can't detach the squad commander to remain in the vehicle!! The 5 or 6 men squad of the MRB is pretty weak by itself, you touch on this a bit on the end of the video, but would you do a video on how to fight with an MRB company?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

I'm starting to look into doing "Company Guides" too ;)

[@decimated550]

I read an early 2023 a critique of the Russian paratroop company with its small fighting vehicles which can only carry a small number of troops. Without having deep ranks, the unit becomes very combat ineffective very quickly in heavy fighting

[@kosomolsk]

Just starting to play using the Steam version, but one of my BMP-3s just eviscerated a Bulat from the front and I noticed it used an ATGM for the kill, so *maybe* they changed it? I'm also finding the 100mm gun very useful as a squad-level infantry gun for demolition work. Someday I'll have to learn to do this right but in the meantime its nice to neutralize pesky enemy infantry by pumping a minute's worth of rounds into the floor they are on.

[@Euan_Miller43]

Needed this Video how to employ the Russian and Ukranian Mech rifle units has been baffling me since I got black sea

[@sirfanatical8763]

Would you do the BMP-2 next? Or soon?

[@crplsteve]

A lovely lil' IFV

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Not going to lie, I do have a soft spot for the BMP-3

[@nbr1rckr]

Hell yeah Helpful video as always, man. Well done.

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Thanks very much man!

[@setoki2838]

Had to learn, that the BMP 3 is a driving bomb the hard way, I had one literally kill two BMP 3s next to it with all full of soliders by the first AT gun shot my buddy sent at me

[@gabmol27]

Hello!! One question, when you buy a CM game on steam, do you receive the latest engine? If not, how u can upgrade it? Thank you

[@usuallyhapless9481]

All the CM games on Steam have the latest engine

[@gabmol27]

Thank you for the answer! And when new engines are released, how does it work? DLCs on steam? Free? Would be strange because I see u have to pay for it outside steam. I'm asking but I don't know if engine 4 was released before any CM game was on steam, so maybe there is not any example of this...

[@jiaqingzhang6404]

isn’t at10 salh instead of saclos and therefore faster?

[@usuallyhapless9481]

I'm not sure. AT-10 is laser beam riding rather than wire-guided, which I guess means that you don't need to worry about keeping to a speed that won't break the wire, but can't say for sure.

[@artemisfowl7191]

Two of my four T-84's in the Shield of Kiev's first mission suffered main gun destruction at the hands of BMP-3's :(

[@fangsout305]

Doesn’t the BMP-3 show up in SF2 with the Marines module, also nice video as always

[@czarnyzniwiarz5072]

i would like to see somethink about the btr 4

[@JcDent]

I just have some irrational hatred of the thing for how many guns it. PICK AUTOCANNON OR CANNON AND STICK WITH IT. MAYBE THERE'S A REASON HULL MGs DIDN'T SURVIVE WW2.

[@arandomperson7713]

uhhh, hate to break it to you, but some APCs did keep the hull MG, such as that one jap M113 wannabe

[@vaclavjebavy5118]

>Too many guns Heresy.

[@СергейШнайдер-я8н]

Best bmp!👍😸

[@jesusvalladares2323]

3:19 i drove those bmp-3 jajaj

[@ЕвгенийВороницын]

Not Red Army, but Soviet Army.

[@Spider-Too-Too]

Bradley screeching reeeeee

[@usuallyhapless9481]

Pretty sure the Bradley is chuclking away in 25mm DU APFSDS

[@JcDent]

Boo this man for not showing off the firing ports like in the Syrian company video: by ramming the BMP into the trench at full speed.