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Combiner Wars Wasn’t All That Bad Right? | #transformers Combiner Wars Liokaiser Review

[@MrUniq]

This was a pretty decent set..they just didn't go as far as they could have since it was a quick repurpose of SkyLynx/Superion.

[@krimsonklaww611]

Imo, combiner wars was pretty good, but there was just too much. Especially in terms of repaints.

[@uttvm03]

What did u expect from hasbro

[@cahillrebel]

@@uttvm03A lot of these were actually Takara exclusive so I don’t get why you are saying Hasbro

[@mrzirak792]

There wasnt enough repaints imo

[@Cdr2002]

The non-combiner characters made from the molds weren’t personalized enough a lot of the time

[@TubaJay448]

The problem was that they all had to do the same 3 things, so they ended up feeling like the same figure. And the sheer quantity you need for multiple combiner teams was overwhelming.

[@sarahquinn6849]

I feel like there was such a missed opportunity by Hasbro not repainting POTP Starscream as a Leozack and maybe even retooling/remolding POTP Beachcomber to be able to become a chestplate or gun so they could make Jallguar

[@seant1326]

This set was released during Combiner Wars, there were no PoTP molds to repaint.

[@sarahquinn6849]

@@seant1326 yeah but they could have repainted them during POTP so people had the option to swap the Dezarus out with Leozack and Jallguar later

[@Iamthebestprime]

@@sarahquinn6849people would’ve complained like “ why couldn’t we have gotten this in combiner wars???”

[@nemesis_saber89]

I think the reason they used the sky lynx mold is because it looks the most similar in combined mode.

[@Anim-motion.]

I wish they had remade leozack in potp as a repaint of potp starscream

[@Cdr2002]

@@Anim-motion.I would’ve preferred the Silverbolt mold

[@GermanFFreddy]

Honestly, if they did Leozack, it would be easier, they could've used the Silverbolt mold, but give a retooled head.

[@fen4554]

Coming from the Uni trilogy and then the movies, Combiner Wars was everything I ever wanted. Good combiners that was more than 3 bots was a non-starter. With the P/E addon kits the combiner war designs were great.

[@THANATOS-PRIME]

I’m glad you like this figure. He was one that I definitely enjoyed when he first came out but after a while of him just sitting in a bin, I recently sold him to a local toy store. I hope whoever buys him next will have more fun with him.

[@feralstorm]

One of my favorite CW combiners too. The standard hands and feet work better proportionally if you leave the lower sections of the tank in tank mode, which makes the legs a bit longer.

[@Robogeek28]

We really need a Haslab Lio-Kaiser....preferably with a Deathcobra tier.

[@arkturus425]

i enjoyed the old 2007-2010 movie toy lines cuz each fig had some sort articulation different with each fig, but was still decent imo

[@geo-fry6372]

I never got a full combiner from combiner wars and potp, but I did get assorted figures, enough to make my own custom combiner. I use sludge and slug as legs, darkwing and dreadwind as arms, and either silverbolt or onslaught as the torso. It’s actually really to mess around and customize with combiner wars figures

[@samchan680]

The use if Deathzarus was probably to keep the trademark alive. They were doing that fan vote and needed it.

[@EuanEchidhog]

Was fortunate enough to get this combiner back around 2016 for a decent price, though never had any luck with the 3rd party combiner hands and feet, so I just left the tanks untransformed to gain the extra height to make the arms less big. Disappointed no company had a go at making combining 3rd party fig versions of Liozak and Jallguar that could combine into main Liokaiser body to replace the Dezarus fig, but I suppose not many would get a Liokaiser and wanting to upgrade compared to the other sets (even though they made a Computron upgrade kit).

[@nericen82nd]

So, you've never seen TFC's Hades?

[@riicky83]

My main issue was some countries (mine included) didn't get every set released. Several were skipped like set 2 and 4 and that caused an issue for those that had set 1 as you had four parts to Superion and 1 part for Menasor.

[@ondururagittandeska2004]

I think Legacy or maybe the sequel to Legacy will do Liokaiser at some point. Deathsaurus is going to be a thing in Haslab so we will get the Breastformers redone as well. I really hope so they are my favourite G1 combiner team.

[@Majinhero]

the biggest flaw combiner wars had was that every deluxe was nearly the same base toy with a few standouts like rook.

[@rigelc.hoffman2496]

Combiner Wars might be a weak line for most... But I respect their ambition. When it comes to the Deluxe figures, they went for G1 versatility/compatibility, but adding modern articulation and more unique transformations. In my opinion, their only big flaw were the Voyager sized torsos, they should have been "Leader" class (Voyager size but more solid and involved)

[@daviddalrymple2284]

Agreed on all points. I really like that they went with the "Scramble City" style, even if that meant sacrificing the kind of cartoon accuracy we've seen on the recent Menasor. But the toys would have been even better (and presumably more stable on their feet) if the central figures had been leaders instead of voyagers. It's a shame they had to compromise the design to fit the planogram.

[@mightybluespider]

A lot of repaints for an ambitious line

[@EmeralBookwise]

I really wish that during Power of the Primes they would have done a retool of the Starscream chest mold as Leozack. I've seen fan made customs and it just works so well. Maybe while they were at it, also a retool of Alphabravo/Blades as Deathcobra.

[@seerus1351]

Wish they would revisit this combiner cause he would rock if they really went in on a new one.

[@robdrabkowski2708]

Great review! The PE hands and feet are essential with any of the Combiner Wars gestalts. I used the dark blue KO Abominus set for my LioKaiser because the spiky knuckles seemed more appropriate for this character.

[@lichu2875]

I wished they used accurate molds for the characters and a accurate paint job for killbison with leozack instead of deszaras and include jallguar

[@Omar_ZX]

Despite most combiner wars combiners not looking great especially menasor, I always loved their goofy ass look

[@Eevee007King]

A modern redo of him would be cool

[@pizzathehut2264]

I loved the combiner wars. I have both Menisor and Superion

[@alfianfahmi5430]

If only the POTP Starscream was released back in Combiner Wars era, that would've made the Liokaiser redeco much more faithful 🗿🗿🗿 Also, those Indonesian snacks are great 👍👍👍

[@awesomeguy9513]

I’d always wanted a representation of liokaiser but it’s expensive and fee and far between. The G1 is way WAY to expensive to get complete or loose complete and has GPS issues, the CW looks very nice granted it’s 5 not 6 but that’s an issue with the line limits but again expensive to get, there’s the 3P hades which is I think 400-500$ not bad for a combiner team but it’s an old/dated combiner with I think some joint issues. Then that’s it combiner wise those 3 for now Iron Factory has a legends one coming out with renders but an unknown release date it looks promising. The only was I could see getting a good modern figure is a haslab thing to give the 6 bot combiner proper budget to be a solid team

[@ZX-Gear]

We may never get a proper Liokaiser. Sad as really it should be made.

[@scullyxd]

​@@ZX-Gearrecent hasbro q & a, they want to do it. They know they did him dirty in cw

[@Rotoscoptic]

Dude i love the drill tank LMAO, i think it might be my favorite in this set, though to be honest they all look super awesome, especially with those addon parts!!

[@TomMSTie1138]

I chose Unite Warriors over Combiner Wars. They're good for now, but I'd love to get new Aerialbots and Protectobots, and Technobots wouldn't hurt either but not necessary.

[@childrenofprimus]

Your dad wearing a Trek shirt, drinking a Trek drink, with a Wars hat!!!!! Classic!!!🙂🙂

[@TamashiiRyu]

Perfect Effect is the only reason I tolerate Combiner Wars style figures at this point. I would 1000% love it if we got Legacty Menasor style updates to combiners. HOWEVER....I still love my Maketoys Guardia, Giant Type 61, & Quantron

[@TheShadowWolfGaming]

Actually liokaiser got leaked recently and is most likely coming out next year, with a mainline version of Deathsaurus coming out in the star seekers sublime

[@sidestreamGLX]

If I was a dad and give my kids some transformers toys, I‘d rather give them combiner wars than legacy evolution for example. Easy to transform in seconds, more time to play, less time to go to dad because some parts fell off or some panels won‘t line up.

[@philipmartin7730]

The jet canopies should have been clear blue. The solid colors just blend in too well

[@capmodesty]

think the thing I like most is that because of how sky Lynx works, it is possible to have the shins sideways like the original toys and still have a knee joint

[@abdullahqavi1465]

Why the hell did Hasbro make Deathsaurus out of a Sky Lynx for the torso? Could'nt they have made a Leozack out of Silverbolt instead.

[@THANATOS-PRIME]

Something that has always baffled me is that they never bothered to re-mold any toy of Sky-lynx into that purple Gryphon from the G1 cartoon

[@sarahquinn6849]

Honestly the POTP Starscream mold would probably work better than Silverbolt for Leozack, I’m surprised we never got him as a repaint of that mold

[@katiepersons6575]

My biggest issue with CW were the ratchets. If they had had more teeth and less give they'd have made a world of difference.

[@L1LegoAnimations]

My Unite Warriors (Japanese CW) Superion with the Perfect Effect upgrades was my favorite mainline Transformer for like 6 years. Kingdom finally outdid it with articulation and improved QC, but 6 years is quite awhile for a CW set.

[@Transformersarecool700]

I would just get it for the sky lynx repaint honestly but I’m not the other so I can make that cool looking combined mode that somehow remind me of deathsaures or Magnatron more than LioKaiser

[@LordGrim1313]

Combiner Wars had to do a lot on a low budget. I think the biggest handicapp was the scramble city style which I was never a big fan of. I'd rather have dedicated combination if it means unique engineering. Hasbro's Devastator and Predaking being a good example. The hands and feet they are sold with for combined mode are lame no doubt but it's a double edged sword. They were trying to deal with the loose parts in a way that could be weaponized at least and still scramble city style. 3rd party options look and function much better in combined mode but have zero integration otherwise. Also while some decos in this set are better then others the reason they look the way they do is to be accurate to the source. As paint apps go, even the worse looking figures are still much better looking then your average combiner wars because the set is a premium deco.

[@Dark.Shingo]

12:00 I know everyone is going to hate me, but I don't know why (probably the color scheme) I keep hearing the Voltron theme in my head.

[@blimbam]

I honestly love combiner wars, it has its flaws, but it's so unique and i like how EVERY character can combine the way they do, exept menosaur, he doesnt need to exist. (Dont roast me please)

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

They should’ve just retooled Silverbolt into Leozack, Swindle into Jaruga, and Powerglide into Guyhawk

[@alumlovescake]

I thought the entire Prime Wars line was loved to bits? It was the last time we got proper sized and priced figures too

[@keldeostudies149]

The funny thing is in earthwars they ignored the fact deathsarus being a combiner torso they made leozack the torso (minus jaguar) based on his botcon figure and gave us a victory accurate deathsaurus

[@Yatta-777]

I get why they wanted to include Deathsaurus, but I would have rather had a retooled Silver bolt as a Leozack. But maybe a Power of the Primes Voyager Starscream repaint wouldn't make a bad replacement, I just hate that mold.

[@katiepersons6575]

The hand foot guns were tolerable as hands but they're were tiny tiny tiny as feet. The lack of ankle title and forward and back also crippled articulation in addition to giving gestalt ape like proportions due to their small size.

[@TubaWarrior]

The swords on the skylynx mold attaches to the tail to make it longer it’s my only combiner so I know so ticks about it

[@Mrskibidiroblox]

I found one on eBay for only £75, until I saw it was in London

[@oochielane5832]

Nice vid man love it. The little bit at the start was funny and that menasor mention as well. That thing is so wacky 🤣. Great content 👍. Also praying you get that combiner and if you make a vid on it ( which you might ) i know it will be funny.

[@mephosto]

i weirdly have just a guyhawk. i got him lose from a resale store; they didn't have any of the others. but, he makes a great leg for galvatronus with the original blast off, and the dreadwind/darkwing pair for arms.

[@MCDJACDC]

I started collecting CW about two years ago, not bad, could be better but I'm still glad I got this guy!

[@tracytron7162]

I *really* wanna get the Combiner Wars Superion and *maybe* Unite Warriors Grand Galvatron (Only for Ghost Starscream, Prime Breakdown and Armada Thrust though) but they're all just so expensive these days, it's ridiculous.

[@ricklegaspi4559]

Great Review! I still love combiner wars but they are dated by today's standards like you said. Btw, You can add Death Saurus' Guns to his tail to add some extra length. The Tanks' Legs had Ankle TIlt which was really awesome for compared to the rest of the line.

[@otaking3582]

A Liokaiser that hopefully won't have a broken leg in a few decades!

[@brianlove271]

US Computron! I love the better official hands and feet, and Scrounge is a must! I will admit the Takara version has better paint. Also Victorion or Megatronia aren't too bad

[@toysmostwanted]

I didn't bite on this set because I was so sure that Takara will make a 2 deluxe torso to make an accurate one. This was the era they were willing to make new parts to make more accurate toys. Kinda sad it didn't happen because I really didn't mind the limbs but the SkyReign torso really didn't work.

[@daviddalrymple2284]

I hope we do see a "proper" generations Liokaiser sooner rather than later, but I imagine that it's a lower priority next to the other G1 combiner teams.

[@Kylorin235]

Kill bison sounds like a great metal band name,

[@eventprogenitor1873]

I would try to get teh KO hands and feet upgrades they have rubber stoppers to prevent him from sliding and toes are more pointed over sneaker looking and the fingers are square. This was Hasbro coming off T30 and trying to cut costs to make more money they do fit that nostalgia feeling but they are not good figures compared to what we once had. Sure Legacy Menasor is better but your looking at double the price you should expect it to be better but also surrfers from the price gouging stuff and mold reuse issues.

[@williamsimkulet7832]

I liked the CW hands/feet; they're practical weapons that turn into either hands or feet; you could buy any 4 deluxes and mix and match. I know a lot of people complain, but the 3rd party kits and later takara box set alternatives were all loose parts w/o a function outside of combined form; they were cheats.

[@zannusx]

I still think this would make a great Haslab, but I think they said the next one wont be from Victory

[@Samuel_Loegan]

I have the white hands and feet you had on Liokaiser and I gotta tell you, it is AWESOME putitng on my Combiner Wars, Superion ^^. For anyone who doesn't know, the white hands and feet that Toy Guy has on Liokaiser is actually suppsoed to be put on Superion. But the results in the end is still awesome on Liokaiser. I HIGHLY recommend to you all to buy the Perfect Effects Combiner Wars hands and feet ;)

[@KitbashCustoms]

It’s the arms that are hips and thighs for me, they followed thrilling 30 with some of the most ass transformers since the g1 toys

[@CodeXCDM]

Always wished Takara did an extensive retool like they did for the Seacons. There's customs on TFW that take a jet and modded Jeep combiner to make a proper Leo kaiser. Odds are Takara could have easily done that.

[@OscarTheChinchilla]

Pretty crazy that no 3rd party company ever made a Leozack to sub in for this.

[@Cdr2002]

Your dad being a Star Trek fan is awesome

[@callumcrane241]

Combiner Wars was amazing. It's designs were awesome, like the combining gimic. Legacy is awesone too, don't get me wrong. I wish Hasbro would mix the combining gimics of Combiner Wars AND Legacy. That would look awesome.

[@devilwithin1738]

the torso figure should've been a retool of the silverbolt mould instead. it would've made a lot more sense and the combined mode would've still looked good. and correct me if im wrong, but I believe there was six member for liokaiser. there was a black tank member I believe? could've used the legends warpath figure for that.

[@da_master_of_foxes8512]

your dad is so wholesome!!

[@mettaton1669]

This is easily my favorite combiner team character and original design wise, but this set... does not do them justice. I got it because I want to have some version of the team, so I use the deluxe and the Bot Con Leozack as my team for now. They really need a better update though

[@trence5]

I kind of like Lio Kaiser, I may pick up one day (for good price). What stopped me at was that "Desaurus. I mean they could've used that Cyclonus/Silverbolt mold one more time for a Liozak. Say where do get Romulan Ale?

[@xavi5876]

Liokaiser is definitely gonna be the Haslab for 2025, or at least I hope so

[@doklatcake9394]

They said they were not doing anything victory for a while in haslab.

[@godzillameister]

you think they'll do it outside of haslab?@@doklatcake9394

[@ZX-Gear]

​@@doklatcake9394A shame. Cause I would also love a new Dai Atlas.

[@ZX-Gear]

​@doklatcake9394 Yeah. I know it is Zone but still Japanese G1 is pretty overlooked here.

[@Jetblast01]

@@ZX-Gear There was a Legends Dai Atlas in a box set with Sonic Bomber and another, but it's...rough. And suuuuper floppy. Not to mention the Dai Atlas is the Titans Return Overlord mold except tied with a spaghetti string.

[@eonaon6914]

I've never liked the CW skylynx mold. the torso where you can see through the center part. They couldnt have spent 2 cents more on plastic there so that when viewed from the sides as it will look solid.....

[@soldierofevil168]

I’m glad iron factory is making their own liokaiser granted legends scale isn’t for everyone but the whole set will still be cheaper than this version or the Tfc toys version

[@henry605]

I once had a combiner wars superion as soon as I took it out the silverbolt’s head’s rubber horns got instantly stuck in the hatch for the head and I don’t have most of him anymore I think didn’t know about costumer services then.

[@tracytron7162]

I wouldn't say there's little chance of us getting a new version of this guy, we know he won't be this years haslab because they said it won't be JG1, but I could easily seeing it being the one for next year or 2025

[@villano37]

As a proud parent of Optimus Maximus, Imma need some of those hands'n feet for my boy.

[@dragonslairproductions5138]

YES, I’ve been catching your videos early!

[@SilverScarletSpider]

you should buy more combiners like victorian and bruticus

[@cristiantiniguar-sevilla467]

If you do more Combiner Wars, could you PLEASE do the Combaticons at some point? (Definitely a while later since you did the FOC team.) CW Bruticus was the only team I completed back then, a childhood favorite of mine. (And ragged as hell by now.)

[@edwardh9121]

Let go of my full set for $80 a few years ago not knowing what character he was. Got into victory recently and now I really, really wish I could go back…

[@johngolles342]

I wanna get this, but I want a true lioKaiser, hopfully Haslab will do one in the next couple years

[@anthonycourt7977]

Glad I'm going for the ironfactory version

[@Chokun-Gaming]

If you untab the feet on the tanks you can get near limitless forward and backward movement

[@davidbailey6917]

I think that the combiner wars toyline isn't bad at all!

[@groscas]

hoping thats our next haslab !

[@xibecou2b]

13:30 Hey!!! Don't talk about combiner hands!! But But Combiner feet? Maybe..

[@Musclecarsunltd]

dont you hate it when hasbro calls Killbison and Hellbat ironbison and fellbat on earth wars.

[@henry605]

You sounded talking about the snacks sounded like they’re following you and won’t stop giving you snacks

[@Windrazor8403]

I like the combiners from CW and POTP lines

[@christianmendez6366]

We really need a new liokizer

[@Zyugo]

Maybe a set of 6 Deluxes could be just the ticket. Then the Big Rescue Force with added members to act as shadow/retool.

[@christianmendez6366]

@@Zyugo ya but most likely if hasbro was to make a new liokizer would probably be a Haslab

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

The one major disappointment with Combiner Wars is that we never got a Deathcobra to go with this set. Why? We have a perfectly good helicopter mode! Not even a BotCon figure...

[@sarahquinn6849]

I’d argue that a bigger disappointment if that we never got a repaint of POTP Starscream as Leozack to give a more traditional looking Liokaiser torso

[@jimmaury9161]

The white feet and hands really pop… I went with black for toon accuracy

[@AlexSeverinski]

Deathsaurus, Hellbat and Killbison were renamed because Hasbro wasn’t going to allow a toy, even an exclusive one, to have the words "Death", "Kill" or "Hell" in it.

[@dl01619]

I always wanted better out of CW so I never got any. Now I want to get at least 1 of the Prime Wars combiners. Probably Abominus since I already have Hun-Gurr.

[@jasonregimbal-kung6154]

Combiner Wars was alright. Just too many repaints overall. I wish I hadn't gotten the Unite Warriors versions. I thought we wouldn't get the original members over here - ha ha, we did eventually. Oh well. Menasor was a real dropped ball. I get wanting to do something different, but it's thinking too outside the box. Didn't get the new one, though. Partially because I see it as part of a set with the rest of the combiners - Scramble City and all. Partially because I feel like I've been spending too much on TFs overall and it's time to say no. And partially because I have upgrades for UW Menasor, such as hands and feet, the trailer, and his torso fixer PE did.

[@nekroman524]

The next video better have "I know you're all here for the hands and feet"!

[@childrenofprimus]

The combination of characters does seem like a freak occurrence.

[@antiseize11]

It wasn't bad per se, but there were lots lots of mold reusing

[@AvengermanThe1]

Love your video’s bro

[@Loremastrful]

Combiner Wars: Uggh. I love it and hate it. The teams were great. I even loved the sixth member added to the teams. I hate the sports car mold. I didn't at first, but by the time we get 7th or 8th repaint I was actively grinding my teeth. I also hated that Hasbro knew collectors were starved for some characters and used CW to sell a not so good version. That is the move of some bottom feeding 3rd party, not from top tier first party Hasbro. Here's my micro review of the combiners. Menasor: Then 7, Now 3 - I got caught up in the hype. Especially since my son was getting into Transformers too. And seeing his eyes light up as he put Menasor together is a cherished memory. but so many problems really cracked the rose tinted glasses of nostalgia. Superion: Then 7, Now 5 - Silverbolt is the superior (pun intended) torso. And I liked, later loved, the Alpha Bravo helicopter mold. Ultra Prime: Then 5, Now 4 - More of a proof of concept that these combiners are interchangeable. Galvatronus: Then 6, Now 4 - Another concept combiner so if you have four limbs and a torso, you had a combiner. I liked that Galvatron was inside Cyclonus. Defensor: Then 6, Now 3 - Overall a solid combiner. Bruticus: Then 6, Now 3 - Essentially, the Decepticon version of Defensor. I liked jet Blast-Off (I call her Lift-Off) Battle Core OP: Then 5, Now 2 - This is when the repaints got excessive. I liked Ironhide as a red pick up. Plus they missed a chance to call it Ultra Magnus. Sky Reign: Then 7, Now 2 - This rose and fell mostly on Sky Lynx. I tried to fit this square peg into a round hole because it was unknown if we'd get a more faithful Sky Lynx in the future. Betatron & Computron: N/A - This was the end of CW line and store shelves were already adding TR merch. I don't know if I'd pick it up if I had the chance. Victorion: N/A - The color scheme really sunk it. If it was like red and gold or something more appealing, I might not have sat on the sidelines until it was gone. Starscream: N/A - I feel Starscream and Darkwind and Dreadwing were more filler pieces than a real combiner. If you were missing a limb or a torso, these POTP entries can help you complete a combiner. Orthia: Then 5, Now 2 - Elita as a jet was a cool idea, but all four fembots being the same really sunk the Battle Angels (my name for the fembots) Abominus: Then 9, Now 7 - This one held up. I still prefer it over the individual bots. Volcanicus: Then 5, Now 2 - The Dinobots as a combiner team was a good idea, but the execution was pitiful. You can focus on loyalty to the G! aesthetic or focus on build a rocking combiner. You can't do both.

[@shinzero0271]

I think Combiner Wars-era combiners was pretty great. They just kinda got lazy/cheap with the retooling and apparently rushed some things. Though... it really felt like Takara was putting out the finish product while Hasbro was putting out the prototypes. Comparing CW Defensor and Bruticus to their UW releases made me sad. At least CW Defensor eventually got a Deluxe class Groove to replace Rook and make up for the legends scale chest bling one. I don't think CW Bruticus got an accurate Blastoff. Also some of the individual bot legs in CW were just awful and if the bot that made up the body was bad, the combiner wound up bad. Hot Spot was the weak point of Defensor and that weakness carried over to Victorion and I assume MegaEmpress. Then there was the whole Voyager Optimus/Motormaster mold with the messed up leg ratchets which even upgrade kits couldn't really fix. Plus one of the car limb molds was just outright horrible at staying together and the legs would separate all the time. Poor Victorion got hit by a pretty bad Voyager and the bad car limb mold. I think Skylynx and the Cyclonus/Silverbolt Voyagers were the best of the group. Onslaught really seemed cheap and hollow in alt mode but never gave me any issues as a combiner or solo bot. Grimlock was... almost good? Solid bot and Alt mode but he made Volcanicus look really goofy with the way the limbs spread, even with the extra fists as torso filler. I actually liked CW Skylynx but I sold off the entire combiner set when the Commander Class Skylynx was released. I'm currently glancing at CW Menasor w/ PE Upgrade sets and considering selling that off as well now that I got Legacy.