Come and See: The Scariest War Film Ever Made

[@TheVileEye]

Great video on one of the greatest films ever made! You're right about the potential for evil that lies latent within each and every one of us, and there is always the potential for our past mistakes to repeat themselves. However I err towards optimism in regard to evil. The world is certainly a much better place than it once was, and I think if we don't destroy ourselves, society will inevitably become more homogenous and when that happens I imagine you'll see less evil in the world, though a complete erasure of it is likely impossible. Even so, the amount of time that will take is unfathomable. It could be a thousand years before we're rid of major wars or other insidious crimes. The peasants of 11th century England could scarcely imagine what the 21st century would be like, and though it seems improbable I think the far future, should it be allowed to exist, is one of unparalleled joy for all that we can't imagine. But we might not make it there. We might see the rise of Come and See like events once again, and the destruction of everything we know. Only time will tell. Here's to your success, and I look forward to future releases from you!

[@RenegadeFilm86]

Well said! While each and every one of us do has the potential for evil, we also undoubtedly have an equal potential for good. Really glad you enjoyed the video! I absolutely love your work and you’re one of my favorite creators, so it really means a great deal coming from you! Take care and keep up the great work!

[@TheVileEye]

@@RenegadeFilm86 Agreed, and I'm glad to hear it friend I appreciate the praise. Likewise!

[@fitnesspoint2006]

did not think this movie was as gore prone and full of greatness as you make it out to be. German forces were not the only ones, remember Pol Pot 2 million+ massacred. Found the movie a but hyperobolic and melodramatic. Remember Rawanda? all the US led wars against the Middle East?

[@mastersafari5349]

@Your Mother is a Hamster Quite contrary, i think the less people you have the less competition there will be. Taking it to the extreme case if you have only one person left then there is no one who could be the victim of its evil

[@Googlag]

Evil is an unknown something living in a vacuum? Or does evil have names, surnames, names of corporations?A system that repeats the same events within society? A system that turns people into obedient toys?No? Then I congratulate you, you did not study well and do not want to see the evil caused by capitalist society under your own nose.

[@noheroespublishing1907]

"Come And See" is a masterpiece of Soviet realism, there is no idealism, no romanticism, no super heroic heroism of an unrealistic protagonist, no, there is only war, it's perpetrators, it's victims, and, far away from the carnage, safe from the horror, the benefactors and lobbyists of war, stand, silently looming over the sorrows of the battlefield; profiteering all the way.

[@fitnesspoint2006]

did not think this movie was as gore prone and full of greatness as you make it out to be. German forces were not the only ones, remember Pol Pot 2 million+ massacred. Found the movie a but hyperobolic and melodramatic. Remember Rawanda? all the US led wars against the Middle East?

[@LiterarischeAktion]

@@fitnesspoint2006 So what?

[@divad7137]

Chess is a fun game, and a challenging one at that. But when the pieces are replaced with people, that is where the line is drawn.

[@rrr10599]

@@fitnesspoint2006 thats the dumbest take i've ever heard. Kindly never voice an opinion ever again.

[@fitnesspoint2006]

@@rrr10599 my farts are smelly

[@AnthonyMackONE]

The writer of this screenplay experienced most of these things during his time as a Belarusian partisan during WW2. That is one of the most frightening things to imagine.

[@fitnesspoint2006]

did not think this movie was as gore prone and full of greatness as you make it out to be. German forces were not the only ones, remember Pol Pot 2 million+ massacred. Found the movie a but hyperobolic and melodramatic. Remember Rawanda? all the US led wars against the Middle East?

[@AnthonyMackONE]

@@fitnesspoint2006 Your point is invalid as we’re literally in a discussion about a film highlighting a moment in history concerning Nazi SS and Wehrmacht soldiers committing atrocities in Belarus. While you bring up some interesting issues in your critique/diatribe, none of that has anything to do with the film “Come And See.” Would you like to stay on-topic?

[@fitnesspoint2006]

@@AnthonyMackONE human trajedy is not invalid, atrocicties were committed in all wars, nothing special about nazi, but you have a fetishized fascination with them, more power to you.

[@AnthonyMackONE]

@@fitnesspoint2006 and good luck to you on your trolling and general assholery service as well!

[@echovalentine6206]

To think there are still people who run around with symbols of the Dirlewanger Brigade is nauseating to say the least. Warfare has always been evil, but these men revolutionized methods of evil which were used in later wars. Even the Nazi’s had trouble accepting them as part of their ranks. I agree that they were pivotal in the mechanics of future war crimes. The fact that seeing even a picture of this movie is enough to make me shudder tells the depths of what they must have experienced. If I’m not mistaken these were likely some of the same forces who orchestrated the Wola Massacre.

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

The final montage of Florya firing into the portrait is a devastating counter to the very idea of heroic war films. As he shoots, the music rises to a heroic crescendo, the historic clips of moments of violence and power run backwards, a ruined city is rebuilt, but we cut back to Florya. He fires again, and advancing armies retreat, guns are un-fired, bombs un-dropped, but we cut back to Florya. He fires again, and Hitler's rise to power rolls backwards, the very face of the war reduced and taken away, but we cut back to Florya. He fires again and again and again, music triumphant as all the worst deeds of this war are un-done in front of us. But these vanish, and we are left, again and again, with only Florya, his fear, his hurt, his rage etched into him like the lines on his face. It is a scene of the most extreme fantasy, intercut with the reality of Florya's face. No amount of 'heroic' violence can ever undo what has been done by violence. You cannot cut away a scar left by war. You can kill the man and even the idea of Hitler, push all his armies out of Byelorussia, kill every man who ever fought in his name. You may have to, if you want to end this. But it will not rebuild a single village, bring back a single life, or empty a single mass grave. The fantasy of heroic violence is impossible - you can tell yourself to the end of time that this will restore things to the way they used to be, but in the end the only thing heroic violence ever produces is Florya, and uncounted people just like him. Perhaps there is such a thing as a necessary war - but there is never, ever a heroic one.

[@Astro2024]

Based comment

[@doggolovescheese1310]

Beautifully said

[@Darksky1001able]

But at the same time, he stops when he gets tp the baby. And if he shoots the baby, even if it is Hitler, he loses his humanity. And thats what stops him. He doesn't take that step. He goes back. He keeps his humanity. He does not lose it. He keeps it.

[@user-zr5yw2st1e]

​@@doggolovescheese1310 whith movie aboute genocide of soviet people

[@tonywords6713]

Very fine words

[@judeinfante1447]

To me the real evil is ignorance. People dont want to watch Come And See even if they have too ( i strongly believe Come And See should be part of every school curriculum). Because its like this. if your religous god created free will to see what we will do with it. if your athiest then you have no one else to blame but yourself. we are all good and evil we just need to learn that we have the capacity of both. even children can throw violent tantrums. what more a grown adult with authority

[@RomanumChristum]

Every side does war crimes, war is inevitable and war crimes are inevitable. Humanity may be the only sentient beings in the universe. We were supposed to be the greatest, most sensible things in existence. But we dig ourselves to this

[@johnfromdownunder.4339]

Ignorant ? Do you mean low intelligence or do you mean a cultural ignorance? Ignorance is bliss, we are all ignorant. You strongly believe? Are you dogmatic at all, what do you believe in if not a elitist attitude, we can't help what we don't know, sure we have a curiosity to seek out culture but I believe in ignorance, we can't all be the same, in 30 years you will look back on yr life and think completely different. I don't like war films because I have lived a life of destruction and chaos, I don't need to see a film to know what we do to each other in war. I'm Bosnian and I remember the war, my people were slaughtered by Serb paramilitary forces ethnic cleansing. But the Bosnian men did the same things to the Croats and Serbs, the Bosnians were defeated there were camps set up like in Poland. I don't need to see a picture or a video I can imagine. War and murder and rape is the one thing humans have excelled and it's been consistent that we kill the other.

[@HankBukowski]

What is ignorance?

[@howdydoodilly6812]

@@RomanumChristum War and the horrors are inevitable as long as humans live yes, but the amount and severity of war and those atrocities are directly linked to how knowledgeable the general public are about how terrible war is. People are less likely to support or start wars and soldiers are less likely to commit war crimes if they understand the severity and horror of it.

[@SpicyTexan64]

The real evil is ... evil.

[@AaronHatcher]

I kind of consider this to be a antiwar film more than a war film. It's a very powerful film that isn't talked about very much now which it should be.

[@TheZombieburner]

It's interesting, isn't it? The best way to make an antiwar film, is just to show the reality of war.

[@NelsonVanDweller]

​@@TheZombieburnerpretty much lol. I mean the harrowing score and the intense cinematography certainly play a part in the horror But yeh i get your point.

[@B3ani3B0y]

Every war movie is an anti-war movie, lest it be propaganda.

[@thomasscoggin5131]

i believe most war films made with out the purpose to invoke nationalism or a since of pride are anti war

[@stenkaboy2415]

I would say the opposite. This movie is not anti-war in the slightest. That's just your morality talking and nothing more. It’s more about struggle and consequences that will be if you refuse to take a weapon. The so-called humanity can't just take and stop wars) Here it is more about forced struggle when strangers came to your land to destroy you. I'll add a little bit that for me the USSR and the Reich are occupiers, but let's leave it out. Remember the scene where Fleur's mother discourages him from joining the partisans. He went to fight and survived and his whole village was destroyed. Of course they are not responsible for their own deaths, but still quite revealing. And the final scene with Hitler literally says "don't stoop to the level of these animals". I hope I got the point across as much as I'm writing through a translator.

[@pearcefitzpatrickodonovan480]

Man this film leaves a permanent mark on your soul and at the end you realise it all actually happened

[@RobertFletcherOBE]

The Russians are doing it right now in Ukraine. They learned fucking nothing

[@highwind1991]

it's the bleakest, most horrific and most extraordinarily artful war film I have ever seen. I never need to watch it again because my memory of seeing it is still so ingrained into my mind that all of its moments will never leave me. it might even be the greatest film that's ever been made

[@PolishGod1234]

Definitely not the greatest, not even the best war film. Its brutal, its pretty realistic but aside from that its pretty standard film with not much symbolism or depth in it. Apocalypse Now is the greatest war film ever made, even though its hard to really call It a "war film".

[@highwind1991]

@@PolishGod1234 I honestly feel like come and see's simplicity really makes it more impactful for me. Especially compared to apocalypse now which really tries to reach for the stars and feels more like a mess every time I watch it

[@PolishGod1234]

@@highwind1991 well, Apocalypse Now is supposed to be the adaptation of Hearts of Darkness, that's why It doesn't feel like your regular war film, It focuses on a lot of topics -PTSD, human psychology, cults, horrors and insanity of war, corruption, hypocrisy, evil, American values, going back to the past as the movie progresses, the illusion of morality, the other-worldy elements like purgatory (Do Lung bridge) and Hell (Kurtz compound)etc. Imo Apocalypse Now is more subtle, every war crime and murder happens in a Second, in the background -its not shown directly into your face for minutes, while Come and See tries too hard imo when It comes to showing horrors of war to the point that It seems like showing brutality becomes more important than plot itself. AN is more psychological. Also I just think Apocalypse Now is far more well-made film, but that's probably due to the budget.

[@efslab]

@@PolishGod1234 Come and See shows the horrors of war for what they truly are. It puts it directly in your face, there's no escaping or turning back from it. It is what the title suggests it to be: Come and see what war is like.

[@PolishGod1234]

@@efslab I know

[@DavidCurryFilms]

I dont know if I can watch it again, but yes a masterpiece. It begins with a mother's stern warning not to go picking up partisans weapons from the battlefield, and it's all downhill from there😬. The brutality, dehumanisation is just a fraction of what the German forces did in the East, beyond prying eyes.

[@fitnesspoint2006]

I did not think this movie was as gore prone and full of greatness as you make it out to be. German forces were not the only ones, remember Pol Pot 2 million+ massacred. Found the movie a but hyperobolic and melodramatic. Remember Rawanda? all the US led wars against the Middle East?

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

@@fitnesspoint2006 Your comment is propaganda repeated over and over without any context to the comment you have followed with your comment! Correction:. I mean propaganda!!

[@barlock1000]

Things really become weird when you hear stories about the events of the Come and See from the people who actually seen that. My grandparents were pretty much the same age as Floyra in the movie, they have told me about what war is from a very young age. And now I'm sitting here, writing this comment to the sounds of air raid sirens, in the middle of an outrageous war, that took only two (or three) generations of people to completely forget about those events and start again. Show this to your children. Teach them. War is a gruesome fucking thing that have no limits in it's brutality. No amounts of propaganda should be able to told them otherwise.

[@robertlevine2827]

Slava Ukraina!

[@barlock1000]

@@robertlevine2827 no, thanks. Ukraine is worse then you will ever imagine even if you start listening to russian propaganda.

[@ЯнаК-з8ы]

@@robertlevine2827 you learned nothing. Shame man you!

[@youtubeaccount9980]

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[@glynphelps9027]

@@youtubeaccount9980 boo

[@MangoHombre]

The part in the film that hasn't been commented on is when the Crane shows up. Was that her children that were in the nest that were stepped on. Did she come to judge the murderer of her babies?

[@preyevite6785]

I would say that he did kill his inner Hitler when he didn’t fire that shot at baby Hitler and his mom. Him rejoining the Partisans was a way of him reconciling the evil within himself to fight as needed but having confronted the evil in himself, he would be able to fight for one’s home as one should when faced which such evil and horror.

[@marvinbohme7575]

I guess it also demonstrates the thin line between self control and the loss of the last glimpse of humanity inside. In a traumatic, physical and psychological state of pain like this it must be so hard not losing your human morals especially if you got the opportunity for REVENGE (the scene under the bridge), a term that will always deliver rather a void afterwards when all the things you've lost can never come back for filling this very void. And I think that the ending with the photo of baby Hitler and his mother being confronted with Fljoras realization can suggest a question like "If Hitler would be killed, will all those atrocities, horror and pain in war find an ending?"

[@noelholzer3675]

I remember reading somewhere that klimov said Flyora survived the war but only through dumb luck and not any sort of personal skill

[@Siddingsby]

General Sherman said "war is hell!", but that's not strictly true; In Hell there are no innocents.

[@MVProfits]

I never see people talking about the cold aura of the Partisans. You sense camaraderie, human warmth, and anything to the like? It adds to the overall brutality of it all.

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

It's almost like they just saw their families, friends, comrades and country being destroyed in the worst way possible by Nazi Germany and aren't exactly in the mood to act like happy comrades in an Hollywood war movie, but are depressed and traumatized marching towards the fascist rats that caused all of that and it will be more years of fighting

[@rahhhbkdx1]

One masterpiece deserves another. An essential movie and an outstanding video my man. Really needed to hear this one today. Subscribed! Keep up the great work👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

[@barbarapearce9738]

Come and See is the most scarily intense and realistic film I've ever seen. Took ages to shake off.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same with movies like Threads(1984), The Divide(2011) and The Nightingale(2018)

[@o-ruff1483]

@@chasehedges6775 The Nightingale was so scary to watch. Scary because the life was worse. I was surprised that the director was inspired by "Come and see"

[@chasehedges6775]

@@o-ruff1483 💯💯

[@nicolelawless9942]

I’m still able to get it off my mind 4 days later and I finally freaked out at it when I never meant it

[@1neAdam12]

Not quite as realistic as 'EUROPA THE LAST BATTLE' is.

[@k-ondoomer]

I love how immersive this film is. The steady cam is almost documentary like, the casting of the villagers and the location/ sets, the use of blank ammunition for superb sound design, the way the main character processes trauma is so visceral and real. A film of pure anxiety, despair, and pure evil War is a man made force of nature that not only brings death and destruction, but also strips away morality and societal constructs, exposing the true nature that lies within us. Peak cinema, very anti escapist. Great review!

[@olgatixomirova3609]

В фильме использовали не холостые боеприпасы - всё,было,по настоящему .

[@светлячокМилаша]

Из истории фильма :здесь не было холостых боеприпасов все оружие было боевым. И корова расстреляна на самом деле. Их было две на съёмках. Расстреляная корова была больная и старая. Это фишка Климова.

[@saturationstation1446]

i really wish people would stop calling it human nature. you cant say its in any way natural because its always being directed by a hyper minority of people who's goal is to MANIPULATE others into doing the harm for their benefit. take out the completely unnatural part of our economy (rich people, dont earn anything but claim everything, obviously not natural and not something that occurs anywhere in nature and also not a sane way to think) and there is only incentive to work together and help each other, because without rich folks manipulations, people from all over the planet simply view each other as equal human beings. its rich people that teach and condition the desire to harm and think of oneself as more deserving of life than anyone else. if people really think a fractured civilization could have built monoliths, they are utterly braindead and probably believe in magical sky beings are responsible for materializing monoliths made of materials that are no where close to where they are constructed..

[@brianstanton6026]

This film is a perfect example of realistic horror. The fact that evil in all of us is very scary and it's even more terrifying that we must contain it so we don't repeat the actions of those before us.

[@chasehedges6775]

SOOO TRUE. Human nature is a dark, natural, disturbing thing.

[@saturationstation1446]

its not that evil is in all of us necessarily. its that there are nearly guaranteed ways to induce psychopathic desires in people if you torture them enough and tell them their only options are to believe what you tell them to believe or die. its more accurately described as "there are potential ways for those with ill intent to force those without it to support their goals" and none of it would be possible if we just took out the net loss part of our economy, aka rich people. when there are no people with instant extreme power over masses of others well being, its simply not possible to induce genocides or any mass harm. without those powerful individuals desires to expand and protect their ability to inflict harm on anything they want to, humans will never choose to harm each other, they will always choose to help.

[@saturationstation1446]

@@chasehedges6775 psychopaths are less than 1% of our species. its just kind of odd that they are exclusively the people eurocentric culture enriches and empowers..

[@williamwoody7607]

The Jungian shadow is neatly encapsulated by the Japanese expression “the bigger the front the bigger the back.”

[@BlyGuy]

My wife and i watched this film a couple of weeks ago here on YT. What a brutal and magnificent work of art. The acting was impeccable, amateurs or not.

[@manbearpig7521]

My son and I are about to watch it. He is still recovering from Threads

[@chrismaple779]

When him and the girl are running from that cabin in the first act and it reveals piles of naked dead bodies was one of the most unnerving scenes in a war flick I ever seen. To add to that; this boys transformation is INSANELY well done.

[@yulimoonshine]

Hi

[@Fleur-g5r]

This video is a masterpiece, very insightful and thought provoking.

[@daite_pushku]

Thnx a lot for this deep rewiev of this movie.

[@John.McMillan]

"the scariest part of war and war crimes is that the potential for such brutality lies dormant inside each and every one of us" I am liable to subscribe just for that. So few realize that almost all of us would do these things if give the right (or wrong) circumstances.

[@mauser98kar]

This movie is so hopefully hopeless, or should I say hopelessly hopeful? It shows so preciously little light and so much darkness that little light shines like a sun but does little to cast the darkness away. Its like hope and horror in this movie are so painfully aware of each other that they can't help themselves but to outline the opposite. The dark moments are probably the darkest any movie can get but the lighter moments are so full of hope and the spirit of repulse against the dark. Was there ever a movie that showed the duality of man so well and so deep?

[@saturationstation1446]

idk but well off eurocentric people havent changed much since then. they still scream about how those who are not wealthy dont deserve to do anything but get tortured to death for the entertainment and ego of the well off. still out there demanding europe have control of all the worlds resources while everyone outside of europe lives in brutal destitution and 99% of our species dies from labor induced starvation as they produce 4x the amount of food needed to kill the entire species with obesity

[@ryuman757]

8:10 I loved that, even the movie "depicted" a r@pe scene at the end with the girl being thrown into the back of the truck - they DIDN'T. SHOW. ANYTHING! Hollywood needs to take note, that these things don't always need to be thrown in our face, to show the evil. But the director was correct: There was SO much horrible stuff that could've been shown.

[@charleshansen1118]

If to remember is what sets us apart, then this one act, vengeance, is possible only for us. Our history is built on it as much as any other part of our being and is, at once, our most noble, and our most ignoble aspect.

[@JMD501]

I just saw a podcast with an evolutionary psychologist who's focus was on violence in human and primate social groups and he believes retributive violence is what caused us to evolve. Specifically when we see an alpha male react violently and attack any of the other members of their own tribe, a group of beta males will band together to take down the alpha. So planned violence is selected for and reactive violence is selected against. It may seem like there is a lot of reactive violence, but it is actually super rare. To the point, if someone is even yelling in public everyone will stop to watch the psycho.

[@charleshansen1118]

@@JMD501 Vengeance codifed is the criminal justice system (and in many cases the civil courts, too.)

[@ayejay4028]

@@charleshansen1118 yup

[@SgtFunBun]

im only a few videos in and i have to say you're among the absolute best, the way you speak is almost artful, every word is chosen carefully to deliver the proper impact for such description of the darkest parts of us all, let alone exploring such rich and untouched subject matter, takes a bit of confidence to tackle it in such a well-spoken, eloquent way that really makes you think it's almost criminal that you don't have more people tuning into your videos, but the youtube monetization machine seems to skip over these sorts of things due to the gruesome subject matter. nonetheless, with your quality of writing being on par with the films you review themselves, im sure you'll keep a steady incline, keep it up guy(s), and ill be ringing that dang ol' bell

[@RenegadeFilm86]

Thank you so much! I’m very grateful to have you as part of the channel!🖤

[@RJ_MacReady13]

For me it's the scariest film ever made, from the technical standpoint, the sound design is specially remarkable and really induces fear. It's an amazing movie, though to watch but like you said, it should be seen at least once, truly an odyssey into the madness of war. It's a nightmarish experience, it's like a depiction of hell

[@nicolelawless9942]

The movie affected me this much that I finally lashed out only for everyone to understand me but I don’t hurt anyone because it’s not an excuse

[@jacobbarker1649]

This movie scared me and made me extremely distraught This is one of the few movies that made me upset enough to cry

[@chasehedges6775]

Perfect way to sum up this movie

[@nicolelawless9942]

I couldn’t even cry as I was pinned to my bed whilst having this weird feeling and I won’t forget it

[@mercilessaphrodite3052]

In the war between two evils it’s the innocent who suffer the most

[@danwest3825]

I watched Come and See about a year ago. It is easily the most horrifying film I have ever seen. Thank you for this impressive review of the film. Your narration, timbre and word choice remind me of Rod Serling and very fittingly describes the human condition as he did.

[@nicolelawless9942]

I watched over a month ago now and I was really traumatised. A month later, my bonding with Come and See started to get real that it made Woody really annoyed

[@dmtdreamz7706]

There was a very strange feature in this case, strange because of its extremely rare occurrence. This man had once been brought to the scaffold in company with several others, and had had the sentence of death by shooting passed upon him for some political crime. Twenty minutes later he had been reprieved and some other punishment substituted; but the interval between the two sentences, twenty minutes, or at least a quarter of an hour, had been passed in the certainty that within a few minutes he must die. I was very anxious to hear him speak of his impressions during that dreadful time, and I several times inquired of him as to what he thought and felt. He remembered everything with the most accurate and extraordinary distinctness, and declared that he would never forget a single iota of the experience. ‘About twenty paces from the scaffold, where he had stood to hear the sentence, were three posts, fixed in the ground, to which to fasten the criminals (of whom there were several). The first three criminals were taken to the posts, dressed in long white tunics, with white caps drawn over their faces, so that they could not see the rifles pointed at them. Then a group of soldiers took their stand opposite to each post. My friend was the eighth on the list, and therefore he would have been among the third lot to go up. A priest went about among them with a cross: and there was about five minutes of time left for him to live. ‘He said that those five minutes seemed to him to be a most interminable period, an enormous wealth of time; he seemed to be living, in these minutes, so many lives that there was no need as yet to think of that last moment, so that he made several arrangements, dividing up the time into portions-one for saying farewell to his companions, two minutes for that; then a couple more for thinking over his own life and career and all about himself; and another minute for a last look around. He remembered having divided his time like this quite well. While saying good- bye to his friends he recollected asking one of them some very usual everyday question, and being much interested in the answer. Then having bade farewell, he embarked upon those two minutes which he had allotted to looking into himself; he knew beforehand what he was going to think about. He wished to put it to himself as quickly and clearly as possible, that here was he, a living, thinking man, and that in three minutes he would be nobody; or if somebody or something, then what and where? He thought he would decide this question once for all in these last three minutes. A little way off there stood a church, and its gilded spire glittered in the sun. He remembered staring stubbornly at this spire, and at the rays of light sparkling from it. He could not tear his eyes from these rays of light; he got the idea that these rays were his new nature, and that in three minutes he would become one of them, amalgamated somehow with them. ‘The repugnance to what must ensue almost immediately, and the uncertainty, were dreadful, he said; but worst of all was the idea, ‘What should I do if I were not to die now? What if I were to return to life again? What an eternity of days, and all mine! How I should grudge and count up every minute of it, so as to waste not a single instant!’ He said that this thought weighed so upon him and became such a terrible burden upon his brain that he could not bear it, and wished they would shoot him quickly and have done with it.’

[@tonywords6713]

Occurrence at Owl Creek

[@СергейКурков-п8ч]

@@tonywords6713, Dostoevskiy

[@carvedouttastone]

Your reviews are brilliant. I aspire to make observations with the same eloquence as you one day with my own developing channel

[@NarinderSinghHere]

Thanks for the essay my friend.

[@dizzypear2829]

It's funny how you talked about how baby Hitler was a clean slate and then later you quoted Carl Jung. Because according to Jung every person is born with certain personality traits that they keep for the rest of their life. He was infact so certain of this that he also categorized people into personality types based on that theory. This view on personality traits within the field of personality psychology have long been considered outdated by now though. Side note: this isn't meant to be criticism. Just some trivia for anyone interested.

[@RenegadeFilm86]

Appreciate the input!

[@QuitLifeTV]

I'm guessing you're talking about Myers-briggs? If you mean to say that Jung thought that people either are dominantly extroverts or dominantly introverts, that would be true and I don't see the issue. Myers-briggs on the other hand, while based on Jungs theories, differ quite a bit and is not very valid. I remember doing that test a few times over a period of two months and ended up with two different types. Turns out your mood while taking the test has a strong impact, even if you feel you answered truthfully. Jung is a pretty stable guy but some stuff he said made excellent soil for new age muppets and it's quoteable I guess. His writings on the concept of the shadow is spot in, vis-a-vie this movie

[@dizzypear2829]

@@QuitLifeTV What I meant was that according to Jung you're born with personality traits that are static and won't change through out your life. Which isn't true. Even if you do keep a personality trait for the rest of your life it will change continuously as life moves on. This applies to how extrovert or introvert a person is aswell.

[@sp-yj5wr]

Jung / Myers-Briggs are idiots. Many of Hitler's childhood friends said WW1 changed him. He was a normal kid before that. Environment, family, friends, foes and even luck make us who we are, plus that bomb in WW1 that almost killed Hitler and his drug addiction for the pain afterwards led him to become a nut.

[@SpoopySquid]

I finally watched this last night. It's probably the best movie i've ever seen. I never want to watch it again

[@blitzkriegfritz2779]

I can also recommend: Land of Mine it's hard to stomach but it also has a "happy ending" which takes a lot from the message: That even the victims can become perpetrators.

[@marshaltito7232]

Elim Klimov was born in Stalingrad and as a child evacuated the city across the Volga on a makeshift raft under gunfire. That experience certainly inspired much of his work on Come and See.

[@SamVidovich]

Incredible analysis, thank you so much. I'm excited to be a new subscriber of yours - I can tell that you very much take your time.

[@JMD501]

It may not be the best war movie, but I think it is the most real war movie ever made. I think all war movies should be anti-war movies if they are shown honestly.

[@experi-mentalproductions5358]

All war movies ARE anti-war movies, IF they are honest.

[@BlyGuy]

It's the most honest war film ever made and imo, that makes it the best when also factoring in the impeccable performances, amateurs or not.

[@PolishGod1234]

​@@experi-mentalproductions5358not really. Anti-war films are too over-dramatic

[@selinajo]

I think a really good scene in this movie is near the end. It’s when the Germans are in the Belarusian village and destroying everything. Right after a shot of the church and village burning, a German girl is shown riding shotgun in a truck, eating lobster. I think it’s such a poignant scene, showing the stark contrast of how people could be experiencing war. On one side, there is rape and pillaging and the victims from it. Then there are the ones who almost benefit from it, sitting somewhere clean and safe while others suffer.

[@LeanAndMean44]

You do really good analyses of movies! I found your channel because I wanted to watch Threads on KZbin and saw your video about it. (I watched Threads via the Internet Archive/Wayback Machine, that’s the only place I could find it). Subscribed!

[@gavvy8434]

I just finished this movie and I really cannot shake the feeling of just wanting to cry. This is absolutely an incredible movie but oh my god, it is just harrowing. Definitely gonna be contemplating this movie for a while.

[@spookrockcity]

Stalingrad 1993 and Come And See did more to change my viewpoint of war than any other film.

[@tinyz9]

I watched this for the first time last night and it’s the most harrowing experience I’ve had while watching a movie. I’ve watched SPR but I’m yet to watch Apocalypse now, Deer Hunter and Platoon as I’ve heard they are some of the greatest.

[@chrisricks6363]

Also Hamburger Hill

[@nicolelawless9942]

I adored saving private Ryan and I didn’t know Matt Damon was in it, no one could do Ryan like he can

[@fedo18]

one of the german soldiers also said something along the lines of "It all starts with children, thats why I said to leave them in the barn". Maybe Florian also saw and realised that

[@Vinnie-Venom]

Saving Private Ryan will always be my favorite war movie, but Come and See is so incredibly well made, surreal, and so so accurate. It forces you to stare our past in the face, and ask yourself how could we as Human beings let this happen. Could you have survived this? We must keep our past from repeating itself! It is the greatest anti-war film ever made! It doesn't glorify war, it shows the true monsters were men all along.

[@chrislondo2683]

Don’t forget Thin Red Line.

[@Aaron-sx7zf]

Saving private Ryan sucks. After the opening scene it just gets worse and worse

[@theinkwitch13]

Bravo. This was a delight to listen to. Your narative is so well thought out and well written. I appereciate the ideas you explored here and how you looked ad how things like this can sneak up on people.

[@WitchyWynne]

This movie and video get to a point I deeply personally believe, evil and hatred are taught and learned. It's not innate. It's inevitable because we live in a culture that perpetuates it. It needs to be fought on a personal and cultural level. Fought with education. Fought by changing how we raise our children.

[@PolishGod1234]

Not really. Some people develop sadistic tendencies without outside influence, maybe out of boredom

[@saturationstation1446]

@@PolishGod1234 not even remotely true. only people who have everything handed to them and are raised to believe they are more important than everyone else end up that way. im sure you've had lots of experience with poor people, since you have enough money to have a thousand dollar electronic device and pay the 1 or 2 thousand per year that service costs... when you have only experienced other well off people, i guess that would make sense that you believe its natural. because you've only experienced the people who are conditioned to be psychopathic and view the world as something to exploit for wealth. that is the basis of eurocentric culture after all. applying eugenics to planet earth in order to "civilize" the species...

[@STOPSYPHER]

I thought it was interesting that the only time Fliora ever used his weapon, was at the very end of the movie. He never hurt anybody.

[@beardeddog8215]

Scary part about this movie is maybe come and see is just cover 10 percent about the actual horror in real war

[@Ppcutter11_]

“The rape of Nanking” is wayyy more scary also ww2

[@СергейЖулин-я7б]

Unfortunately we are all doomed to repeat the same mistakes and same neverenidng circle of violence. The prime example of why i think that way is right in your video. You talked about good and evil, rights and wrongs, the exclusion of moral high ground etc.. And all we see is Nazis and Soviets and Bred Pitt in shining armor. Everyone is the hero of his own story - that's for sure.

[@LaZonaDiRin3743]

No,we are not doomed because most humans learn from mistakes, and violence is evitable an example Is the end of slavery and Witch hunt or the peacefull dissolution of Soviet Union or the forgiveness programm in Rwanda After the genocide, or the rieducation of criminals in Prisons or good samaritans campaign.

[@СергейЖулин-я7б]

@@LaZonaDiRin3743 For thousands of Russian people left in hostile to them countries after USSR colapse - there was nothing peacefull about it. It was just a capitulation. And it not helped, because western expansionism never stopped. "Peacefull solutions" viewed like a weakness in other players eyes and an invintation to rob.

[@Mikhalych88]

​@@LaZonaDiRin3743 unfortunately, dissolution of USSR is an extremely bad example. It actually goes against your point of view, it was exactly like the circle of hatred and vengeance. It sparked nationalism, civil unrest and xenophobia, ethnic and national conflicts in almost every ex-soviet country. There were two Wars in Abkhazia (1992-1993 and 1998), Nagorno-Karabakh War (1988-1994), South Ossetia War (1991-1992), Tajikistani Civil War (1992-1997), Transnistria War (1990-1992), Georgian Civil War (1991-1993), two Chechen wars (1994-1996 and 1999-2000), war in Dagestan (1999) and so on and so forth. And I'm not even talking about more recent conflicts. Conflicts led to conflicts. Warcrimes led to warcrimes. Countries who tried to breakaway from USSR and gained independence found out themselves fighting against independence of ethnical minorities in their own territory (quite a tragic irony). Peace negotiations and signed treaties have been made just to be broken in 30, 20 or 5 years later (or sometimes even on the next day!). Don't get me wrong, I sympathise with your point of view and I really wish I could share your optimism, but I simply can't. Perhaps most humans could learn from mistakes and declare "never again!". But others see those mistakes as opportunities and learn how to repeat it declaring "nothing ventured, nothing gained".

[@shanequastunningbrave5376]

No all but 99% - there are a few who don't conform to tyranny - but most do!

[@sp-yj5wr]

There is much less violence in the world as compared to the past, so we are learning...but it seems to be taking forever. Human beings are really stupid.

[@teamlean3717]

an incredible movie, one of those that will always be in my collection ...

[@caloyssk1]

about pasolini was my 1st ep on this channel. instant subscriber, thanks i haven't watch the movie but base on your analysis it sums up like the "eye-opening scene at the end of a clockwork o" probably?

[@BelovedCaptain]

This is a fantastic video. This seems like a hard movie to sit through, but necessary. History is doomed to repeat itself as we can see today. Not to mention those atrocities depicted in the movie didn't happen all too long ago. I can't help but wonder what he would think of shows like Vinland Saga and Attack on Titan which major themes are about war.

[@dmtdreamz7706]

My first impression was a very strong one,’ repeated  the prince. ‘When they took me away from Russia, I  remember I passed through many German towns and  looked out of the windows, but did not trouble so much  as to ask questions about them. This was after a long series  of fits. I always used to fall into a sort of torpid condition  after such a series, and lost my memory almost entirely;  and though I was not altogether without reason at such  times, yet I had no logical power of thought. This would  continue for three or four days, and then I would recover  myself again. I remember my melancholy was intolerable;  I felt inclined to cry; I sat and wondered and wondered  uncomfortably; the consciousness that everything was  strange weighed terribly upon me; I could understand that  it was all foreign and strange. I recollect I awoke from this  state for the first time at Basle, one evening; the bray of a  donkey aroused me, a donkey in the town market. I saw  the donkey and was extremely pleased with it, and from  that moment my head seemed to clear.’  ‘A donkey? How strange! Yet it is not strange. Anyone  of us might fall in love with a donkey! It happened in mythological times,’ said Madame Epanchin, looking  wrathfully at her daughters, who had begun to laugh. ‘Go  on, prince.’  ‘Since that evening I have been specially fond of  donkeys. I began to ask questions about them, for I had  never seen one before; and I at once came to the  conclusion that this must be one of the most useful of  animals-strong, willing, patient, cheap; and, thanks to  this donkey, I began to like the whole country I was  travelling through; and my melancholy passed away.’

[@jamesbodnarchuk3322]

Well stated.

[@thebelen2359]

Great, very well thought out video, and I geniuanly mean that. The problems I see that complicate things even further than you've already stated are our lack of knowledge towards what is objective which stem from our biases. Lets say that you truely have the strength to not conform to the moral standards of your society and stand up for what you believe as an indivitual. That you always abide by your principales and conscience no matter what others tell you. Great job then, you're one of the few true brave ones... But how do you know that you are right? The way I see it is, even if you're clear on what your principales are, even if you believe with every fiber of your being that you are objectively right and that you're standing up towards objective evil, you can never be truely sure of that. Especially when the other side probably thinks the same way. Out of the nearly infinite number of opinions, beliefs, and moral codes that there have been, are, and will be, the chances that you are obectively correct, assuming that there even is such a thing, are actually pretty low. You said it yourself; cosmic heroes often end up being the cause of systematic evil. Your response to that statement was to find, identify, know and kill the shadow, but what if different people have different opinions on what one's shadow even is in the first place? I guess what I respectfully disagree with you on is that we can be so sure about what objective evil is, and that what I'm trying to say is, whatever you do, be it following your beliefs and being your own hero in all circumstances, or mindlessly abiding to your society's beliefs and being a cultural hero, you are taking a risk as our opinions on morality, and pretty much everything, are always biased by our environment and genetics. Expecting a human being to know objectivity or be objective is not reasonable because we, by nature, are subjective creatures, each with our own biased, subjective, distorted and tainted version of the truth. To be clear, I do not mean to encourage not standing up for what you believe in or not staying true to yourself to fit in, I am merely stating that even then you can't be sure you're "good" and that you're taking a gamble. Sorry that comment was so long lol, got carried away.

[@sp-yj5wr]

I think you're talking about the steps it takes to get to evil, because killing, rape, etc are definitely evil. Those are not subjective. Its been proven that even infants know the basics of right and wrong.

[@aVerveQuest]

Journal writing the reading of great novels, and the discipline and constant self-assessment have been the three main things that allow me to keep empathy as I age and the world around me becomes more and more socially unrecognizable. Is very very hard to despise the zeitgeist, and yet keep true love in one's heart for the strangers whether close to us or far away

[@johnbrooks595]

Many soldiers say "There is no more vicious a soldier than an 18 year old who had lost friends to the enemy

[@iamdamosuzuki_]

The only film I’ve ever seen that left me both crying and shaking at the end

[@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158]

Come and See is arguably one of the greatest films ever made. Elim Klimov only made 3 to 4 films, in 85 this was seen even then as one of a list of War films, it's only later you realise it transcends its genre, its horror, thriller, war, all rolled into one. Majestic is a word i would use but not in the euphoric sense but clearly as a warning of the depths humanity sinks if allowed to reign free and run amok. Disapointed you juxtaposed the hack Tarantino's 'cartoon 'Inglorious Basterds' to this piece of art as some equivalence of evil, Tarantino could only dream of making a film this magnificent. Btw it is Belarussian.

[@chasehedges6775]

The film, like Threads(1984) , is a warning of what happens when evil and madness rule the world

[@linternamagica100]

You sir, has a fantastic channel and you've gotten a faithful subscriber.

[@RenegadeFilm86]

Thank you, Jośe! Very glad to have you!

[@riekivonwielligh6102]

Well constructed 🔥!

[@rh2097]

This was an intense essay. Good job

[@helpIthinkmylegsaregone]

I killed my inner Magnus Hirschfeld already.

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

I keep trying to watch this. I need to steel myself first maybe. And I don't normally give any reaction to most horror or war movies.... This is something else entirely.

[@maxwellbliss]

Rene Girard's ideas of mimetic theory and of the scapegoat are all over this. A good portion of the wording you used in this video makes it seems like you've read him. If not, that just shows how right he was about these things being hidden since the beginning.

[@Igneous01]

This movie changed my life completely. It was then I realized I would make sacrifices I never thought I would make in life. People today have no idea what's coming to them. Especially in Canada. This evil is exactly the kind of thing they want to bring back.

[@Ragestation]

Good video with many truths.However I certainly didn't see the main theme as 'evil exists in all of us'. Rather that its main theme is the suffering & dehumanisation of war. That it succeeds in portraying this theme with such honesty & realism, is testament to its well deserved reputation as one of the greatest anti-war films. Did it need any more of a theme? Not really.

[@SECshock]

I think it is considering that since humans committed atrocities then humans are capable of it and it is part of humanity. Saying that people are "dehumanized" is a cop out and neglecting how we are all possibly capable of it.

[@Ragestation]

@@SECshock I would think more of films like Apocalypse now ,or heart of darkness type films, (including many action & horror films), to encapsulate the 'mans capacity for evil' theme. There will always be elements of this theme in anti-war films, but there is no doubt, this is an anti-war film in the purest sense, that is its main theme right there. You did have some great commentary here, so don't mean to criticise, it is the emphasis on the good/evil thing I thought was overdone. I fully agree with your last statement & will continue to watch your channel.

[@dykesmcgee3136]

agreed!

[@td370]

Come and See & 1917 are the only war movies to get me very invested and immersed like I was there. I think the fact that they used live ammunition, real Nazi uniforms, real WW2 vehicles, killed a cow, etc just adds to the immersion. Fantastic film.

[@sp-yj5wr]

Director went out of his way to find anyone who survived those 628 villages getting torched. Some of the elderly in the barn burning scene were those people.

[@saturationstation1446]

lots of people dont know what a living being dying looks like. but none of them are rich.

[@OgYokYok]

The most fascinating exploration of the baby Hitler question is the Birthday Boys sequence in which two assassins go back in time and end up adopting Hitler to raise him right.

[@ezerolithuania]

kommen sie is pronounced that gives another feeling. Come and see is words from apocalypse.

[@maiavitale8458]

throughout the film we all forget how young Florya really is, he was an indeed a child after all 😭😭😭

[@dmtdreamz7706]

Connecting with the joy of looking at beautiful things. This will make you fall in love with life. The beauty of when I walk out of my house, I look at trees, cars, the sun, the clouds, the desert, where I live. Even my own body. When I look at my own body I just get joy out of looking at the beauty of my own body. My body is a work of art. I can connect with that um. Just that alone is enough to create an amazingly fulfilling life.

[@SerenDipity64711]

This film is shocking, brutal and one you can't shut out. I am amazed it was made in 1985 it hasn't aged in any way. - The whole film is incredible, terrifying and intense.

[@tonk8395]

I would realy like a yugoslav war film in this type of style.

[@MK-ld1me]

Very insightful, thank you so much!

[@TheHandsomeman]

What i have seen so far, first hour, this film, is pants, a man burnt all over laying on the floor, saying the Nazis burn him, with petrol all over? And his hats still on? Also his legs aren't burnt?

[@garyweglarz]

The sort of war film that WILL NEVER come out of Hollywood. No heroes - no flag waving - just traumatized "survivors" - who will never be the same.

[@chasehedges6775]

Exactly.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same with movies like The Nightingale(2018) and The Divide(2011). Disturbing and depressing and bleak films where no one comes out unscathed

[@marniekilbourne608]

I thought this was a movie discussion but it's a pompous, bloated diatribe! It sounds like you are reading your term paper.

[@aVerveQuest]

When writing or speaking I find it best to start a statement with "i believe" or "in my opinion'', rather than simply stating your opinion as a widely accepted and known fact, because indeed there is little that can be classified as such.

[@philliphopkins6903]

Masterpiece.

[@aVerveQuest]

Solzhenitsyn and Viktor Frankl both have performed works of arts integral to comprehending one's empathy and open us up to a suffering only we ourselves can overcome. Reading works like this are part of the journey that allows us to understand suffering in others it's a such a degree that changes our own inner self and our actions

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

To make the movie more bearable, I like to imagine the Slow Loris is actually the mastermind behind the SS brigade we see.

[@andrewhoneycutt7427]

A monster lies within all of us; we must all acknowledge it and by doing so we become better people

[@chasehedges6775]

Sooooo true. Human nature in a nutshell

[@nicktrueman224]

Live rnds were used in certain scenes. Done as safely as possible off course. That is incredible. My family lived in Pinsk basically this is set in the area. If you think the movie is bad you should hear what my family had to say. I am very proud of them for keeping their integrity humanity in a insane world. I am proud of my grandfather my great uncle who fought the Nazis but sadly had to abandon what was home and never return to a Gulag. We live in the west now, well one does as time has msrched on. I have tried all my life to encourage others and give them perspective of what war really means.

[@myroccoz4653]

Was relevant 2 years ago and it’s relevant again now

[@arthurfarage6673]

I love this channel!

[@benjoe999]

Do not harm,do not kill!!! Forgive!!!! If you forgive to anyone,no one can hurt you! Do not kill your inner evil! Forgive!

[@canadious6933]

I think, when it comes to everyone in world war 2 and world war 1, people become numb to death. In ww1, allied soldiers would even make jokes about dead bodies that they could identify for many months or years. In ww2, the killing of people became so common to see that it no longer held any shock at the time. Include that with intense alcohol and substance abuse, it becomes something that no one can understand unless you witnessed it. However, many of these soldiers on the allied and axis side only really started suffering mentally far after the initial shot. And suffered for life from it. What causes this in the mind of people? I cannot say

[@Guyzo997]

Great video. Is there a listing you have of all the film clips sampled within? I recognized a few

[@HolyPire]

This movie gave ny nightmares

[@nicolelawless9942]

Me too, during the nightmares that followed for months afterwards were so gut wrenching when I tricked Floyra into a hide and seek game with him but he knew it wasn’t funny anymore when I the love of his life went missing. Floyra suddenly panics and starts yelling out for me thinking I would come back immediately but once I didn’t, Floyra knew something was wrong. A concerned Floyra runs to the nearest village I could be in and he sees me the love of his life being taken by the Nazis and put in the church with many others. Floyra starts running towards the church pounding violently on the door so he could hear me yelling for his help but the Nazis pulled Floyra away and he literally screams in agony thinking I was about to die but to his quick thinking, Floyra tricked the Nazis into Hitler being behind them and he then saves me without hesitation bless him. He shoves his people out of the way to find me and I hugged Florya so tightly and apologised to him but Florya paused me saying “it doesn’t matter what happened, what matters to me is I found you and we have to get out of here!” Florya goes through the window only to be hit in the hand and begs me to get out without him but i heroically saved Floyra in time. As me and Florya were leaving, the original plot ending was originally going to have Florya die as the bullet approaches him, I sacrifice myself to save Florya’s life; the way he screams “oh god please No!” is absolutely devastating and I felt his emotions throughout the scene as Florya grips my dying hand with tears coming down his eyes as i confessed to Florya I loved him so much before blacking out forever. The screams of agony from Floyra was incredible before he goes on a full anger rage shooting the Nazis until a grieving Florya looks down to his hands shaking physically before Floyra collapses into me. What a nightmare that was

[@aVerveQuest]

The dissipation of responsibility goes a long way in atrocities being committed. Sadly it is the model corporate America follows today with its board of directors making decisions to use child slave labor in Indonesia rather than one man being fully in charge of the company's decisions

[@MisterMonsieur]

@6:20 -- "Deranged"? It does nobody any good to look back on these figures as "crazy" people. They were very rational, enough to stir millions of people into action. That it's now politically acceptable to paint them as "crazy" doesn't excuse the fact that you're falsifying the history for the petty pleasure of spitting on their legacy. You get what you deserve when you dismiss a lion as a house cat.

[@jbark678]

This movie's inner Hitler, Attack on Titan's Akuma no Ko, and, to quote an Earth, Wind, and Fire song: We and evil is about the same.