Comic Book Grades Keep Going Up! Are 9.8's Going To ZERO?! CGC Talk, MCU, Venom & More With Guests!

[@brendandaley9355]

I feel like all the grading prices should be set and not be based on a percentage of what it could potentially sell for. This just opens the door for CGC to potentially inflate grades for certain books to get more money in. That’s just my two cents

[@DocReasonable]

What the hell is the difference between a 9.8 and a 9.9? A micron of 'imperfection' based on the severity of the hangover of the grader? What a scam.

[@DanSchawbel]

It’s a cash grab

[@taillact]

Yes but it’s a KZbin content creator gold mine.

[@danhess2]

Well I’ve been saying the same thing about 9.8 and 9.6… and then hey what’s really the difference between a 9.6 and a 9.4?? And so on… you slab folks are finally realizing how dumb of a concept this all was.

[@DocReasonable]

@@danhess2 I've never gotten a book slabbed in my life and never will.

[@danhess2]

@@DocReasonable by “you folks” I meant the general comic slabbing community

[@raulmendieta9696]

Extra fee for graders notes is ABSOLUTELY NOT acceptable ! That is part of the service being offered!

[@7tardis7]

I guarantee all those Wolverines were from a old dealer and they've been sitting in a long box for 40 years. I used to go to "outlet" comic stores in the late 80s they would have long boxes of just 1 or 2 issues. I remember they had a long box of just Wolverine issues 3 and 4 for $1 each. Most were .25 These were returns. Sometimes they would mark the top of the books with a marker..but then more than half didn't have a mark.There was one in Atlanta and one in Macon GA..(which was crazy place to have a comic outlet store...but it happened!)

[@lag9]

I’m waiting till next year to resubmit so I have a shot at the CGC 11

[@stampscapes]

Great conversation. Interesting points to ponder.

[@gregk9710]

A.I. grading is definitely coming. It will be a new label and the most trusted and highly prized label.

[@DanSchawbel]

It’s coming because it saves on labor costs.

[@davidsamuelson2089]

But someone has to “teach” the AI. Good luck if it’s that slackjaw shill Nelson.

[@paulsantos7358]

Unbelievable. All this talk about 9.9s and 10s. How quickly the flimsy slab crackout and replacement debacle got put on the back burner.

[@jabezcreed]

38:35 - THIS is what the doubters have been prophesying about since the comic boom took off. Be careful about your "investment" when you are investing in the current paradigm only. CGC and big accounts have always been playing with house money, and collectors have been frothed up by the 9.8 chase for the last few years. Personally, I have to tell myself that imperfections are acceptable. My greed cannot be fed, and I have to accept books in 5.0 if that is what I can afford.

[@StillOnly35c]

We should all stop feeding this 9.9/10 propoganda. CGC grading standards should be consistent.

[@Ex_SSFD_Lt]

I always feel outof the group. I've only collectingmany new releases. Budget prevents trying to go further.

[@gregk9710]

There isn't any wrong way to collect as long as you're enjoying it. The way you collect will also change throughout your life.

[@bandoogiemanz]

@@gregk9710 If you want to do bigger books, it's a slow process, but try selling newer stuff that you bought at cover that hits, like ultimate spider-man #1 and wolverine #36.

[@Adrianstreet997]

It’s a scam. CGC doesn’t grade collectables they create them.

[@newcompasscollectibles]

A lot of fantastic points made in this discussion. Well done and great panel!

[@scotthunter8321]

do you expect some1 to mail 50 copies 1 at a time to be graded individually or that cgc takes some1's 50 copies, split them up among different graders and put them back together for shipping

[@jabezcreed]

You all make a good point, the benefit of CGC being a little more transparent is that we can at least better understand how CGC approaches the grading process. I think there's a lot of folk wisdom which floats around that Matt Nelson is slowly blowing up.

[@bandoogiemanz]

CGC is a business, one that's currently owned by Blackstone. Bottom line is profit. Imo, all of their decisions should be viewed and understood through this lens.

[@reprintranch]

You mean like the announcement that CGC will be adding a full grade point that's devoted exclusively to how much "comic book smell" the item has?

[@reprintranch]

No, not really.

[@luismendoza4514]

SUCH A GREAT INTRO SWAG ✌️✌️✌️✌️

[@judesjunkcomics3283]

I was doing this with 9.6 books previously. I bought 3 9.6 CGC/CBCS and submit to McFarlane. And I Bought 3 9.6 CGC/CBCS Marvel Team-Up #141 to send to Adams. In each case I got back a 9.8. That was my hope for just 1 to pop. 9.8. Even if one drops to 9.4 and 1 stays at 9.6 it's still a big win. Now we can do the same with 9.8 books. The philosophy is now the same for 9.8s!!!

[@murrayk.morrison9673]

People keeping their eyes on these books keeps their eyes off the books I want. 9.4 to 9.6 is the collecting sweet spot for me and affordable too

[@slickjolly]

This was a super-fun watch. Do this again!

[@lenkahle33]

I looked at one of my We Live copies on cgc registry. Of 5 submissions, 5 were 9.9

[@gregsug1640]

Grade creep. Kinda like a trickle up theory. Grades can go up with resubmission - so money can trickle up to CGC...😂

[@davidsamuelson2089]

Big auction houses & dealers can take gross advantage of ridiculous tax laws and claim much of the grading fees as business expenses & “losses”.

[@lifejourney8704]

These new wave of 9.9 and 10s will devalue everything else and is one of the reason it is time for me to get out of comic book collecting. I’m gonna be liquidating my collection soon and will put my money into something else I can enjoy like some nice landscaping for my house or something.

[@raulmendieta9696]

Stand-alone grading vs. Comparative grading= average fanboy vs. large wealthy submitter 😢

[@jiccojicco]

It's really crazy that a book graded 9.6 has both staple in rust. Even the scan by CGC in their database show the rust... It was graded less than 2 months ago... There's no mention of it in grades note but a similar book in condition and staple rust got the note and 7.0 Crazy man... and I've bought this book. ps staple rust should be objective, not subjective in grading...

[@nowwithtusks2556]

If CGC wants to maintain a credible reputation as an impartial grader, what's stopping them from posting a vid of a Wolvie #1 9.8 with a Wolvie #1 9.9-10.0 and point out exactly what stopped both books from being 9.9- 10.0

[@davidsamuelson2089]

All they need to do is point to the name on the 9.9 & 10.0 submission label. Lying about the semantics is insulting.

[@ricardog8206]

What do you think would happen if cbcs starts giving out more 9.9 and 10s too, do you think they’ll get more popular?

[@davidsamuelson2089]

If CGC is willingly bending over for the big one for their big customers at least pick a GSXM1 that LOOKS like a 9.9.

[@TheRobertSalazarComics]

Yea I think sticking to 9.8 should be fine. 9.9/10.0 is a bit much…

[@davidsamuelson2089]

It’s not what the subs are - it’s all about WHO SUBS the books.

[@timhartwick1986]

I think we're being too picky. A 9.8 is fine. I even have a 9.6 that looks amazing.

[@gregsug1640]

Your 9.6 is probably a 9.8. 🎉 Now you need to crack and resubmit. Just sayin'...😊

[@TransformersCollector]

@@gregsug1640I know my 9.6 is probably a 9.8

[@timothybrandt6911]

There would be no way to tell if you pooled books whos came back once they are graded unless the wraps are different to determine whos was a 9.9 or a 10.

[@bvandermeersch]

That Wolverine should not be a 10, it has the spot on the left shoulder (your right) the ones without the spot should be a 10.

[@Doombot2.0]

Everyone seems to be arguing about the cgc debate for the whole rather than for themselves personally. Each individual is going to have to take all this new data and the allegations under consideration in order to make a decision for yourself alone of you are going to do future business with cgc or not. People that are going to profit most definitely are going to continue to submit books. Those that wont or are concerned about the possibility of their collection losing value due to cgc's decisions then dont support them further. Best way to speak is with your wallet.

[@AZBoom]

Is cgc now giving 9.9 and 10 because they make more profit from the new "higher" number value of the book?

[@donaldvonglitchenberger4108]

so this guy was just sitting on 77 9.8 candidates of wolverine #1. How is that even possible lol.. Unless it was an immaculate warehouse find or something

[@judesjunkcomics3283]

Don't fool yourself. We are mostly over 35 years old! Lol

[@juanromero1986]

Cgc did the same to Pokemon cards , they just scam ppl

[@T.R.R.Jolkien]

Blackrock bought all the mint books. 🧐

[@jdot1795]

9.8 is the new 9.4 😂

[@scotthunter8321]

Subscribe, like and comment the video 🥶

[@TransformersCollector]

Isn’t 9.0 to a 9.8 still classified as near mint condition? So who cares….😮

[@MetalBum]

Annoyed by the cgc cash grab. A 9.8 is same as a 9.9

[@DanSchawbel]

Nailed it

[@bandoogiemanz]

Never understood pocket watching others. The person who can spend five or six figures to get a 10, has way more disposable income than me.

[@lamarhawkins7952]

Doug Where's Reggie

[@wsnyder9082]

Makes me lose interest in investing

[@vinniwhitlock7080]

When and if there is ever a 9.9 crow 1 you will hear me scream my best shaggy “ZOINKS”!!!🤘🤘🤘

[@raulmendieta9696]

What if ... an influencer (like one of YOU) get subscribers to send one person ( a hub, if you will) that have already gotten a CGC 9.8 ( like a pre-pre screen ) then send in to CGC so comparative grading is put into effect and increases the likelihood of getting a CGC 9.9 or 10, then pools the profits from sales ? I know it's crazy but may be profitable 😮

[@joshuawyatt4381]

That is called a 'Pyramid Scheme' and is exactly what CGC anticipates 'collectors' will do to reverse their decreased revenue from multiple lawsuits, exposed slab integrity and reholdering processes, non-repeatable grading standards, and their under-the-table dealings with auction houses. Grade inflation is the next step and it hinges on enough gamblers being dumb enough to give them their time and money in the hopes they will be treated like Vincent Zurzolo. Spoiler alert: they will not!