Our FULL SPOILER review of Thor: Love and Thunder!

[@langleymneely]

After learning most of the kids were the actual children of the cast and crew it made so much more sense why they were included. I also didn’t realize Gorrs daughter was Chris Hemsworths actual daughter? That scene of him trying to get her to dress up for the morning felt incredibly autobiographical! lol

[@wholesome39]

That scene with him and his daughter in that ship felt like some commercial lol the way it was lighted and film seems like some random ad

[@langleymneely]

@@wholesome39 lol I just imagine Hemsworth coming to set talking about how difficult his baby girl was to get dressed in the morning and Taika goes “Wait! I got the ending!” 😜

[@langleymneely]

Thor & Jane living together wasnt a retcon he was with her from the end of Dark World to Age of Ultron, he wasn’t going home to Asgard and became a citizen of Midgard. It tracks chronologically.

[@R__creator]

The fact that the new avatar movie and Love and Thunder have around the same budget is kinda insane when you look at the difference in vfx. Marvel needs to treat their vfx artists better, jesus.

[@joeclarke7982]

I think they ruined 1 of the best Thor stories in his comics history. Gorr should have been the focal point of whatever movie he's the villain in

[@the_rose_garden01]

Yeah, I completely agree

[@langleymneely]

Helas sword in Ragnarok was visually taken from the comic necrosword which is why I really expected Gorr to find her sword after being adrift post the destruction of Asgard but no dice? lol

[@hullahulla]

Jane died in a battle against cancer, Thor adopted the enemy's child like Odin did with Loki, Gorr died in water when he was dying in a desert Some of my own and social media's observations after the fact (which I am fine with) really made me love this movie even more. Also, I loved how this movie made the gods feel like characters out of myths and not reverent beings. It really made them feel possible. I don't know how much I'm reading into this in relation to Taika's Reservation Dogs, but New Asgard reminded me of the commercialization of one's culture to survive. Kinda like Astrid to Axel, they adapted in their own way and in terms of the tourist trap, it was what maybe felt like a necessary step towards just surviving.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

Good points

[@darth_reason2315]

Lack of stakes was really hammered home when the kids bitch slap the shadow army that was murdering gods throughout the cosmos. Compared to the rest of phase 4, there was decent logic/explanations tucked throughout the movie, but the pacing and tone was all over the place. Happens when you jam years of comic book stories into a single movie. Nothing really had a chance to breathe. Fun in the moment, but you can’t think about it too much, mainly because it tries too hard to be Ragnarok squared…

[@frogichi]

The idea behind Jane going to Valhalla is that fighting Cancer is a constant battle so she ascends.

[@rivwilson9330]

I appreciate you putting this up while you're on vacation!

[@instantbadass]

Anyone else annoyed that Waititi keeps shafting Thor supporting characters in favor of shoving himself into the movie? Kills off the Warriors Three in a half second, brings Sif in for only one scene, no Balder, Beta Ray Bill, Amora, Lorelei, but fucking Korg Korg Korg.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

Well the warriors three were already shafted in thor 1 and dark world so thats not his fault. At least he brought sif back and had her in her comic book costume he could have just never mentioned her again. Also no having balder blame the first two movies for not introducing him not waititi. He also did bring back jane and made her mighty thor and she is a supporting character and because of that couldnt have beta ray bill cause he would have fit. Also with lorelei and amora again blame the first 2 films for not having them in the first place not waititi cause i dont see how they would have fit in raganrok or love and thunder.

[@instantbadass]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 uh, how were the warriors 3 shafted in the first 2, they were at least there and did some stuff, in Ragnarok the 2 are on screen for a second and die. And sure brought Sif back for one scene just to give a cosmetic consequence, you're telling me she couldn't have been written and included in the adventure. And for the other 3 I mentioned, any of them could have easily just been in New Asgard instead of just throngs of extras and tagged along instead of fucking Korg.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@instantbadass most people didnt care or remember them they remembered loki and heimdall because the warriors three make enough of an impression. More time could have been allocated to then darcy and her intern or selvig. If balder or lorelei or amora were in new asgard u would just question wheres they have been this whole time and sif was wounded so couldnt come along.

[@instantbadass]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 you're clearly missing my point. What I'm saying is he has the creative control to include these characters that haven't been introduced yet. In my opinion each standalone film should introduce at least one new supporting character that is in the main characters lore. Waititi could have put in any of the characters I mentioned in, but no, he put himself in way too much. Sif didn't have to lose an arm. He wrote that, HE came up with "let's bring her for one scene, chop her arm off and do nothing else." With those others, I think it's a pretty understandable explanation to say "(name here) was off on an adventure when Asgard was destroyed, but they found there way here and now they're gonna interact with Thor."

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@instantbadass he brought valkryie in raganrok and she is a supporting character , love and thunder he brings back jane. Balder is a character that should have been introduced earlier i dont know how you explain him now . What exactly would lorelei and the enchantress wouldnt fit in raganrok because there is this other stuff to deal with as well as bill. Also what Ragnarok was partly adapting planet hulk and korg was in it so thats why korg was in ragnarok and he isnt in it alot u can arghe he is a little too much in love and thunder.

[@unigenius]

I was hoping Thor would make more moves toward claiming his rightful place as King Thor and inheriting the full-on Thorforce, which we sorta see with him and imbuing the kids with the powers of Thor. But we didn't go there. Also, turning Eternity into the Cosmic Cube...not...a fan. But it's OK.

[@creed8712]

You mean turning Kobic/captain universe into a way for Chris to get his daughter on film

[@unigenius]

@@creed8712 I wasn't aware of that. I just know they treated Eternity as the comics originally treated the Cosmic Cube. Whomever gets to it first gets one wish. And that's....wrong

[@Beaze17]

My only problem with the kids battle sequence is that that would have been useful at so many points till now. Like he could have given his power to the other avengers 😂

[@Horus070]

Well keep in mind Thor had an extra level of power if you consider he had the Thunderbolt of Zeus which is truly a formidable weapon. Course part of this also is a director’s choice . Most Superhero adaptations get the director’s own extrapolation of the material source … it’s not like have not been done before 🤷‍♂️

[@toqkaizogou1636]

My best guess (though really it shouldn't be up to the audience to have to come up with plothole solving theories) is that sharing his powers like this is a last resort thing, since it all comes from the same source. Every time he shares his powers, it dilutes the strength of them. So spreading his powers to many different people at once is something he really should only do when the people have no other way of defending themselves in an unavoidable battle, like with the kids. The Avengers and the massive IW/EG armies were capable of fighting on their own.

[@bern9642]

I figured it's a Zeus power not a Thor power

[@dlvnmedia]

Well with Starfix, She Hulk, Wonderman (upcoming), Hercules and Photon they could be setting up the semi humorous Avengers era from the 80s

[@creed8712]

All of our favorite avengers, the west coast ones. Sounds about as good as the new justice league having way to many people on it from the time Doomsday killed Superman

[@langleymneely]

Apparently there was an entire plot removed involving Valkyrie and a love interest possibly played by Lena Headey from GoT? Headey was paid 7mil to play whatever character she was in Love & Thunder only to be removed completely? She’s now being sued by her management regarding her salary which is why we even know about the 7mil number.

[@jacobbornowsky4013]

This movie couldn’t take itself seriously so niether did I .. the problem is the jokes got old after about 25 min and did not stop… also Gorr was criminally underused

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

Are you sure you watched this movie because there is alot of serious stuff in this movie with jane and gorr.

[@DanV900]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 The serious content is repeatedly undercut by jokes so it doesn’t matter.

[@Anthonydbrown13]

For me I didn't like it for two main reasons 1. The Humour, whilst I love the humour Waititi brings...my main issue is the fact that every character has the same sense of humour which I don't like. 2- Jane- I love the arc in the comics, but having lost someone to cancer im quite honestly sick of Hollywood using it in the way its done here, gaunt cheeks and a bit of eyeshadow to make someone look slighltly sick is infuriating. If your going to do the storyline then a) dedicate a whole film to it and not mash it in with Gorr and b) fucking go for it, it would be such a stark contrast to the levity and fantasy elements to see a realistic portrayal of what she's going through.

[@BBmetalhead04]

It is unfortunate this might be the last time we see Jan Foster Thor, but I actually appreciated that they didn't cure Jane of her cancer with a wish. I think there's something powerful about someone going through a terminal illness and choosing to continue to fight, even though nothing will change their fate. For me, having the cancer magically go away might've undermined that message. However, I think there is a way they could've still been able to use Mighty Thor in future projects. Instead of dying immediately, Thor and Jane raise Gorr's daughter together and spending what time they have left together. In dire situations, Jane can still become Thor and have her death be in the next major event movie like "Secret Wars". Basically, my idea is the death of Burai/Dragon Ranger from Zyuranger (or how Tommy initially lost the Green Ranger powers in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers).

[@bZman]

I did not like the movie very much. The Eternity wish deus ex machina makes Gorr an idiot and his entire goal pointless. He has the ability to get any one wish granted and doesn’t think to use it to bring his daughter back until Thor tells him he could. It undermines a much better story from the comics. The comedy was also trying too hard this time when it felt so natural in Ragnarok. The goats screaming was funny the first time, but grew old quick for instance. The Jane Fonda joke or the Jodie Foster joke would have worked but doing it twice undercut the humorous chuckle I got from the first one. Jane and her catchphrases came across as trying too hard. I did love the rehabilitation of the Thor/Jane relationship though

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

There is some forced comedy in ragnarok and sure they maybe some forced comedy in love and thunder but it has more heart and sincerity than raganrok ever had. Also i see it as gorrs anger at the gods being self-centered assholes that dont deserve to be worshipped so strong he never considered trying to bring his daughter back. With the catchphrases i mean jane became a superhero why wouldnt she try come up with a catchphrase?

[@allendrake6960]

I can kinda get the criticism of Gorr's motivations, but it also fits with a vengeful, selfish outlook instead of a level headed viewpoint that he woukd be far removed from. Being mocked by the God that he and his people were devout worshippers of would understandably lead to a hysterical response. He'd been on a path of killing gods for a long while, obsessive, presumably not learning about Eternity until pretty late in his massacre-ing. And by that point, he'd become convinced that his primary if not only purpose in life was to succeed in killing them all.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I found this movie to be tons of fun.

[@MisterKetch]

Sal watching naked Hemsworth: I hope this doesn't awaken something in me

[@joshheralal8758]

It was far too comedic for a villain like Gorr (who was underutilized). I like comedy but not everything has to be a joke.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

But not everything in this movie is a joke gorr isnt a joke , jane having cancer isnt a joke.

[@joshheralal8758]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 Gorr is in the movie for probably less than 10 minutes and kills one god on-screen. Jane having cancer led to some good emotional moments but was mostly cast aside for more jokes.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@joshheralal8758 jane wasnt talking about it because she was avoiding it and didnt want thor to know.

[@joshheralal8758]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 That doesn't mean the movie had to avoid it.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@joshheralal8758 the whole point was jane didnt want to confront and kept it a secret for everyone else till later in the movie.

[@comicsmisexplained]

I think Jane will come back as Valkyrie like the comics. As for the current Valkyrie, maybe they can just call her King Valkyrie or something idk 🤷‍♂️

[@ronmartin1375]

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[@alpha4IV]

I feel like there is a director’s cut or extended cut somewhere with an hour of extra material with more characters and higher stakes. And, with nothing to base this on, they choose the more fun edit than the more depressing one. Like Disney or Marvel picked a tone and it wasn’t the serious film this could have been.

[@exquisitecorpse__]

Tell you what, I am so goddamn sick of supposed Directors Cuts of comicbook movies that supposedly make it better.

[@langleymneely]

Actually theres a reported 4 hr assembly cut of this film? Lena Headey and a bunch of other God characters had an entire side plot that was removed.

[@mitchellregan21]

Taika came out and said director's cuts are bad and directors should be controlled, so make of that what you will

[@DanV900]

@@kholsinger You don’t actually want to see those movies at that length with those bad scenes. The majority of blockbusters have 4 hour+ assembly cuts that are edited down by the way. An assembly cut is every shot put in chronological order. For example, Snyder’s assembly cut of Justice League was 5 hours long where an hour and a half was cut. He admitted the length of the assembly cut on Twitter when Scott Mendelson assumed the 214 minute run time was an assembly cut which is everything before the epilogue. Then he filmed the epilogue later. The assembly cut of Black Panther was 4 hours long which was confirmed. The BVS: Ultimate Edition is not an assembly cut. That’s how movies have been made for decades. The only assembly cut ever released is Alien 3 by David Fincher. There is a significant difference between assembly cuts with all the footage put together in chronological order and no edits compared to director’s cuts. Christopher Nolan famously doesn’t watch his assembly cuts and has his editors put them together and then he starts editing the movies down. The Batman’s first test screenings were 4 hours long which is rare before an hour was taken out. Far too many people don’t know the difference honestly. James Cameron has never put out an assembly cut and his special editions are just the deleted scenes released that are put back in the movie. People really need to educate themselves on the cuts of movies.

[@Horus070]

@@kholsinger could be that they filmed the full storyboard but decided that too many scenes were details that could be cut. Also stuff that later will be added for the Blueray/ DVD extras and last stuff they filmed just because the Director thought it was worth a try or was having fun. In other hand there LOTS of Director’s versions that studios tend to release later in the past would be used as another market strategy to sell more discs … nowadays … maybe Disney+ can still advertise as another version of the film . Sony just did that now with the latest Spiderman movie. In my personal opinion a lot of this extra is probably gag scenes/ bloopers

[@kevtiz03]

Gorr needs to be in a rated R movie to see his true badassnes

[@joshwent]

Gorr was completely wasted. He started as a hypothetically sympathetic god-killer, yet quickly became an evil kidnapper who could have just been any other low-level thug character. There were no themes in this movie. If they wanted Jane Foster and to make this a typical Watiti comedy, the antagonist should have been The Enchantress. Make it a kooky love triangle thing. That would have given them more opportunity to give Jane a personality, and more room for comedy. Leave Gorr for a writer/director who's actually interested in ideas > jokes.

[@llamafarmer4675]

One downside to that imo is it would’ve made Jane’s character defined by her being a love interest of Thor even more.

[@joshwent]

@@llamafarmer4675 Then at least she would have been defined... a little. As it is, just as in the "Mighty Thor" run in the comics, we got a disease as a replacement for a personality.

[@MrEnKaye]

Apparently Russell Crowe's accent is based off Greek-Australian street food vendors. Nice that the Greek god had some kind of Greek accent instead of a British one like I expected 😅

[@Bigkillars]

We needed a scene of Jane finding out she had cancer in the first place....it would have added a level of seriousness that the movie was lacking and would have given more depth the Portman's character. Having her Cancer as the main plot point but introducing it in a scene where she has (seemingly) come to terms with it lowered the stakes for the audience. Overall though I really enjoyed this movie.

[@langleymneely]

I actually thought the reason she broke up with Thor and left the films was because she got her cancer diagnosis a while ago but they went a different direction.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

What difference does a scene of her discovering cancer make we see her in an mri and getting treatment that already shows the seriousness of her situation.

[@DanV900]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 She has stage 4 cancer and makes a joke about it where it is not taken that seriously. Her discovering she had cancer in a flashback adds more weight since that is very serious and especially discovering you have stage 4 cancer.

[@frogichi]

Jane and Thor living together wasn't a retcon though...

[@Iwoply]

I only just saw the movie and I hope the adopted child doesn't remove Beta Ray Bill from the future, a lot of his origins material has been tampered with in the mcu which is a shame. It's actually crazy that Siv and thor's ensemble have been killed off, Siv in regards to screen time but at least she is still alive.

[@DanV900]

I don’t understand why out of all the MCU movies, quite a few people are bending over backwards to defend this one. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is the better movie where I don’t think it’s close. I would push back hard on Love and Thunder being well made especially with its $250 million production budget since so many background shots look bad which is a result of the Volume along with the story structure. The action is not memorable at all. My theater barely laughed on opening night where most of the jokes didn’t land. It’s just awkward when that happens too. The emotional beats didn’t land either. So many people say it’s fun and plenty of bad movies are fun where you turn your brain off. Christian Bale did as well as he could with the material given, but it was an incredibly lazy thing with being corrupted by the Necrosword. He said a lot of his material was cut. Jesus, there were so many retcons in the movie and it has a lot of issues.

[@MWhaleK]

I'm not going to bend over backwards, I'll just say that it was a fun movie that I enjoyed and I liked most of the jokes/references.

[@WhiteJeezus]

I absolutely hated multiverse of madness. And I'd still rather watch it again over Love and Thunder.

[@neverknew07]

I love this ty ,saw your short and came running

[@kylecarter1599]

I think they did enough to show how and why Mjolnir called to Jane. I wish they had left in the hammer reforming and giving her the initial power up and I feel like it was only cut because it was a set photo that got out early in production.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

Could sals point about there being no stakes could also apply to the god butcher run in the comics because gorrs plan was to kill all the gods.

[@DanV900]

No, because Gorr actually killed multiple gods which you witness and his own son turns against him. A villain failing doesn’t mean there aren’t stakes.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@DanV900 actually in the comics u see thw corpses of the gods he has killed u dont actually see him kill them.

[@betterlatethannever4529]

That thing with the kids mean that Thor has no excuse to not give the Avengers a boost in their next team up

[@AllInTheGame01]

You mean the thing they clearly made up for the movie that will most likely be forgotten/glossed over in the next team-up?!

[@betterlatethannever4529]

@@AllInTheGame01 yeah. They really need to think things through with what they make

[@SeattleKO]

Brett Goldstein was my pick for MCU Wolverine but Hercules works for me too. Either way Roy Kent is in the MCU now!

[@maxm3114]

I really this movie the only big complaint i have is I feel gorr was the wrong villian, maybe mangog or some other zany Thor villain would have fit better.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

I think gorr works as having this dark scary villian as a contrast to all the zanyness than just another zany villian.

[@brendanobrien8198]

I started reading x men during hellfire gala last year. Since then got me to read Excalibur, mauraders, and x men. So excited for Wednesday

[@Animalfriend777]

I liked it. Its weird seeing some people's complaints of it from someone who thought Ragnarok was fun but just ok. I think this one handled the balance of humor and drama better than Ragnarok. I wonder if this is a Guardians v Guardians 2 situation. I think Guardians 2 isn't any worse than the first, but because people knew what to expect now after the first one surprised people, they weren't as satisfied

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@Jay Tee i dont see how this movie has more jokes than raganrok. This movie was more heartfelt and sincere compared to raganrok where all the dramatic stuff in raganrok didnt have the weight it should have had. There was no punchline in the beginning with gorr and when janes finds out cancer, or at the end when thor is with jane. All the people complaining about the humor could apply to raganrok.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@Jay Tee yea odin passing away is serious but are u really sad for odin dieing because there is no good reason explained why he has to die then, also he reveals to thor he has an evil sister that he has to deal with. Odin character was barely explored in the first 2 films. We never get a sense of thor feeling sadness his identity, im assuming u mean when thor is mortally wounded its losing his eye, issue there is no cool symbolism or meaning to it. When Thor tells valkryie of how they have to destroy asgard its undercut with hulk showing up to attack surtur. Gorr is always a scary threat to thor he doesnt make jokes about him like he did to surtur in ragnarok, also raganrok has lots of jokes but love and thunder has more heart and sincerity than ragnarok hell the ending is more emotional with thor and love as a duothan thor becoming king in ragnarok because what should be an emotional moment for thor to become king is undercut by a joke. Also jane having cancer is treatied seriously and not made fun.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I am only getting Tom king book only for my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy and seeing Superman watch my boy Jon Kent grow up naturally even though I know it’s going to break my heart.

[@nikcantsnipe]

Here's a question I have: when did Thor learn to do the Odin enchantment and does it need to be a thunder/lightning God weapon? Because if not, he sure looks like an asshole for not doing it during Infinity War and Endgame!

[@pay7232]

I didn’t think the movie was terrible but I have been losing interest in the MCU. It seems directionless now. Only film I’m looking forward to is F4.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

There alot of clear directions they are planning on taking things lile secret wars.

[@pay7232]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 all that is rumors and nothing is confirmed.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@pay7232 its pretty clear secret wars is the direction their going u really think secret wars wont happen?.

[@flashtheshapeshafter]

I adore this movie, I had high expectations after Ragnarok but even I didn't think they would fix the Jane x Thor Romance the way they did, also Love is totally Singularity from A-force and I'm losing my mind

[@Animalfriend777]

Glad someone else made the Singularity connection!

[@unigenius]

Ahhh, I didn't catch that. She's not a character I think of often.

[@flashtheshapeshafter]

@@unigenius she doesn't show up too much, outside of the two a force bucks she meant Kamala once and the evil Captain Marvel book she came back but that's it

[@flashtheshapeshafter]

@@Animalfriend777 at first I was like "Wow Eternity has hair that's crazy.. Hey a dang second!"

[@whoknows8587]

I'm on the part where your talking about bast and she was there you even see her head for sec

[@HurricaneDDragon]

I’ve never been interested in comedy Thor. Surfer dude Jane Foster was torture. I was actually surprised they went with the cancer plot. Edit- Yeah, WAY too much Korg.

[@milliondotz]

Let's gooooooooooo. I'm not going to write a novel like i did on absolutely m&d but I'll summarize. Bale is perfect, regardless if he read the material or not I felt like he actually understood what the character was about. It's unfortunate that it does not match up with the tone of the movie. Its fine for what it is but leave much to be desired. Just a movie. Also.....Russell Crowe does one the most offensive Greek (or Italian) accents I've ever heard. Its on par with House of Gucci Jared Leto mama mia mario. For all this talk about inclusiveness we once AGAIN have to deal with Brits and Aussies taken control of Greek Role and being horribly offensive.

[@mr.no-to-body8121]

Thanks for the recorded vid!

[@Runge_was_here]

Enjoyed parts and think there is a movie in this that I like that got bloated up by about 30ish minutes. Have hoped from the beginning that I'd eventually get Beta Ray but assumed that was dead when mighty Thor storyline dropped. Here's to hoping 😂

[@bern9642]

My main complaint was the lackluster fight scene and effects

[@marlonreynolds5422]

I was hoping she would be bald for the movie like in the comics but I'm sure she said hell no to that. V for Vendetta was enough.

[@Horus070]

I’ve saw several reviewers complaining about Thor Love & Thunder, different reasons … mostly about the humor though. So, I went to see with extreme low expectations. To be honest I truly enjoyed… it’s a comedy to put it simple. There lot of really cool things throughout the movie and that alone was worth for me. What I would have liked was the movie taking 40 min longer. That would be on point with Sal. Specially the Cancer storyline, Gorr and the gods meeting needed a bit more of time.

[@benflano]

My mate said he thought Jane making it to Valhalla was because of her battle with cancer. People do refer to it as a fight irl. So there might be something in that I reckon idk?

[@stanfordfeynman2796]

That would be a wonderful use of the phrase if it was intentional, but I can’t really give the movie credit for it since it’s not really explained or given enough time to breathe… that said, your friend sounds like a great ideas person for helping screenwriters lol

[@kevinkruger1686]

This is awesome thanks for this.

[@DanV900]

A lot of shots in this movie look cheap on a $250 million budget which is inexplicable because they used the Volume and shot a scene in a Best Buy parking lot as confirmed by Natalie Portman. The first Thor looks much better with its shots. It repeatedly has incredibly very fake looking backgrounds.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

There are some great shots in this movie. And the scene in the best buy was the black and white sequence.

[@DanV900]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 There are awful shots in a lot of the movie where the spatial awareness is completely off. You can tell the backgrounds are fake. The Best Buy parking lot scene was the final moment between Jane, Thor, and Gorr as confirmed by Taika Waititi. It was not the black and white sequence. “There were probably two scenes there," Waititi said. "But the main one was we did some additional photography for the end with the scene where there's the water environment by Eternity. So we built a pool of water, it was only like two feet deep. It was really to get bits of information from characters. Because we're having all these things happen: Gorr is coming to this place to make a wish? In the edit we were like, 'We need to explain this.'"

[@husseinrose4883]

That was a movie

[@Horus070]

I had a feeling Tiffany liked the movie much more than Sal.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

Be honest tiffany tends to like stuff more than sal.

[@langleymneely]

As a fan of AppleTVs Ted Lasso I cant believe I never once thought of Bret Goldstein as Hercules but now that he’s cast its freaking perfect! I hope hes as big, loud and gay as humanly possible!

[@joefayant8470]

I notice sal said they are re releasing daredevil 1 it’s the new issue just renumbered

[@macg4745]

Am I doing something wrong? Is this the latest off the rack? (3 months ago?)

[@comicpopreturns]

Nope. New videos every Monday. You'll see it live Monday nights, on the playlist Off the Rack or New videos from our channel, or Uploads.

[@the_rose_garden01]

This movie struggles from never allowing itself to have a serious scene until the very end. Everything has to have a stupid, awkward, and usually unfunny joke. It really hurts the movie in my opinion

[@mementomori771]

I'm not watching Thor but happy to hear your guys thoughts on the film

[@danzigvssartre]

Marvel feel like they are going nowhere. I'm not sure how excited people are to be teased that Starfox, Pip the Troll and Hercules are coming? In the meantime we are expected to wait years for Dr Doom, Galactus, Ghost Rider, X-Men and Fantastic Four. The movies are also becoming less about the Marvel universe and more about being vehicles for the self indulgence of Hollywood actors. Be careful not to test people's patience Marvel.

[@CatotheE]

Hercules should have been brought in earlier tbh. He’s one of the earliest Avengers.

[@DanV900]

This movie simply doesn’t work as a sequel to Endgame with Thor’s journey and all the retcons added in. Remember when Thor wanted Stormbreaker over Mjolnir because it was bigger in Endgame in the final battle? I guess Taika didn’t since he needed a running gag. Stormbreaker acting like that was a retcon and I found it incredibly dumb. The best Thor movie with his journey was Infinity War honestly.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

Thor bringing mjolnir from 2013 is already a problem cause he is depriving his younger self of mjolnir i getting summoning it to see if he is still worthy but why take it with him had thanos not attacked was he really just gonna keep a time displaced mjolnir. I thought the love triangle betwen the weapons amd didnt go overboard as it could have.

[@DanV900]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 He was never going to keep the hammer honestly and the plan was to always bring the stones back and the hammer had to be brought back too. You use both weapons to help in a battle which isn’t an issue. The love triangle was unbelievably stupid and made no sense since Thor already showed he preferred Stormbreaker and called Mjolnir “the little one” when he swaps weapons with Cap.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@DanV900 if he wasnt going to keep the hammer why take it back with him because he didnt know thanos from 2014 was going to attack. if he didnt care for mjolnir he wouldnt have bothered summoning it when he travelled to 2013 and came back with it. He likes stormbreaker but still misses mjolnir and i dont see him calling it 'the little one' i dont see as a dig because it is a small weapon and there were during a battle there wouldnt have been time for a rivalry between the weapons and again the rivalry didnt go as far as it could have gone.

[@DanV900]

@@mutalemwananshiku4098 You bring it back just in case and he wanted to see if he was still worthy which helped with his confidence. That was the point where he literally says, “I’m still worthy.” Once he got Mjolnir, what was he supposed to do exactly? Run it back to the other Thor? He didn’t have Mjolnir for 5 years as of Endgame and still preferred to use Stormbreaker. Missing it is fine in Love and Thunder, but it was executed incredibly poorly and it was made into a joke with the rivalry. He literally poured beer on Stormbreaker.

[@mutalemwananshiku4098]

@@DanV900 well yeah give it back to 2013 thor because he still needs it in that time its kinda messed up he is willing to just take a mjolnir from a different time and deprive that version of his hammer. I mean it is kinda funny to have their being a rivalry between the two weapons since storm breaker is meant to be his new weapon and mjolnir is his 'ex-hammer' again it could have gone worse like say having mjolnir and stormbreaker literally fight or stormbreaker kicks thor in the nuts or someone. I do agree thor giving stormbreaker is dumb.

[@brianadkins3880]

25% of it was good. You only needed Thor,Jane and Gorr. The rest was superfluous silliness. And Ragnarok was just as bad.

[@kevinlevin9651]

I don't mind new slott spiderverse book if it has ceo parker with ceo parkersuit

[@kevinlevin9651]

I know Spider-Man book of his is torture But what spiderman book hasn't been for a while now

[@betterlatethannever4529]

Deadpool did the cancer plot better

[@kyotaiken]

I thought they put Jane in Valhalla because they're going to make her valkyrie like she currently is in the comics.

[@kyotaiken]

Also why they had her fly in on valkyries horse.

[@wesuda]

Exactly 🔥🔥🔥

[@MrTheblock24]

Nah, it was just a nice ending for Jane. Natalie Portman clearly has no regard for these types of films and is here for the paycheck. She's just spent a load of her money on a soccer club after all.

[@The_GeekLeak]

i think they’re gonna go siege

[@wesuda]

In canon Jane Foster becomes Valkyrie and receives the “All-Weapon” she can travel in and outside of Valhalla. I think she is not done with the MCU just yet.

[@MrTheblock24]

I think Portman is done. She needed a big paycheck to pay for the soccer team she just bought and probably stipulated that she wouldn't be doing another.

[@TheRealZubes]

We know she become Valkyrie, I even read a few of the issue monthly until I feel off the book. We're just saying Natalie may not want to participate in the MCU any more.

[@JakeTylenol]

Yeah your initial review was right this was fun. I hated Thor 3 but this felt like an actual movie with an emotional connection you could have

[@haydenjoossens]

My girlfriend brought up to me her idea of why Jane went to Valhalla and it was because she died fighting the battle of cancer.

[@Kamiuz]

The most stupid thing in this awful movie, is the notion that in marvel universe cancer is uncurable ....

[@joshheralal8758]

It's always been incurable.

[@faherty87]

Meik seemingly transitioned inbetween films and it's never mentioned. Definitely referred to as a he in Ragnorak and a she in Love and Thunder and even wearing a dress. Maybe it's better not to signpost it but it kind of seems like they just quietly changed it

[@holgerpetersen9918]

Way too much Comedy in the Movie! A Disappointment for me overall!

[@carterhalo255]

Cancer is a battle so she got into Valhalla

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

I thought Thor was the most unnecessary part of the the movie. Gor makes a great villain for Jane. I couldn't care for Thor's arc.