The Death of Tim Drake: Detective Comics Rebirth Vol 1 Rise of The Batmen | Comics Explained

[@Timgoesgym]

I love how Tim says "ROBIN out" not red robin he says ROBIN telling Batman that he may have acted separate, may have acted he didn't want to be a Robin but deep down he loved it

[@JonathanOrtwein1239]

Tim Stoeter That would have been stupid to say that. Red robin is a gay character anyway

[@MatthewWillis3]

The cringest Fuck I'm pretty sure he meant gay as in stupid bud...

[@RevolvingCoke]

My mom use to always listen to audio books in long car rides when I was little and I always hated it but now I find my self on long drives listening to you're videos. Now I understand. Keep doing what you doing man, much love.

[@KingLeemur]

I feel like you missed out on explaining the other half of why tims 'death' was so impactful and that being his want to go to school and stop being Robin and batmans reaction to this. Just my opinion but hat deepened the moment entirely.

[@ItsMichaelReid]

So now practically every Robin has "died" at one point or another

[@capn_sauce2333]

ItsMichaelReid it's probably one big life insurance scam

[@ItsMichaelReid]

Captain Cynical haha Alfred: Master Wayne, your adventures of gallivanting throughout Gotham has finally caught up with you Batman: What do mean,Alfred? Alfred: What I mean is Wayne Enterprises is on the edge of bankruptcy due to the costs on your war with Crime. Batman: ....... Alfred: Master Wayne? Batman: Robin! Suit up! Its time to find the Joker! My most deadliest foe, the one who has killed a predecessor of yours, the archenemy that has crippled Barbara!! The insurance due to him is so good its a CRIME!

[@BasicallyBasic]

All 4 in the main continuity have as you said "died" at some point. - Dick Grayson, died for a couple of minutes during Forever Evil and then was a agent of Spyral for a while. - Jason Todd, obviously by the Joker, back as Red Hood - Tim Drake, not dead, but gone from the world and everyone thinks he's dead. -Damian Wayne, killed by that Leviathan thing and brought back to life with Apokalips tech. However, I don't count Dick Grayson's death because because, while he was clinically dead for a while, so was my buddies uncle during heart surgery and I don't count that as dying and coming back to life.

[@Evolve_-]

Adnan Basic Dick Grayson died in the injustice comics if that counts

[@alex96super]

Tim drake is the best robin.

[@EDifyer881]

ikr I can't believe they did this he was a great replacement to be robin

[@NerdsOnlytv]

did you read the rest of the story arc? Dr, Oz brought him back to life and stuck him in a magical cell.

[@omonaijaj]

oh god...

[@kaizenchaosprimordial8945]

XxEliteAlphaxX Grayson was a Robin and he was the best Robin.

[@DJWALK]

I was worried they were going to really kill Tim, thought they were going to my boy dirty but he lived

[@amateurboxing2603]

Very good videos, you are one of my favourite content creators and i love watching your videos befor going to sleep! Greetings from Germany

[@dmaster2]

Rob you got to be one of the hardest working people on KZbin!

[@Doru101]

don´t read comics but always a joy to come here to listen

[@EDifyer881]

I hate comics nowadays

[@ThePandaProcrastinates]

+comicsexplained you forgot to mention Tim Drake's acceptance letter... great video btw!

[@LazyPixcell]

great video, loved it... being a TIM DRAKE - robin fan, i was shocked! thinking that he was really dead ...good to know he's not Really out of the dc landscape. i havent baught a single comic in a long time because it has gotten too expensive for me. I now get my fix and story updates through channels like yours.

[@avburns]

Rob, you somehow missed Kane's superiors giving him the order to use Batman techniques in a military capacity. This was the genesis of the Colony. Kane, motivated by the loss of his family members (the flashbacks showed this as a motivation for Kate ultimately joining the military and her dad formulating the idea of her being his protege and one day leading a team designed by him) started corrupting the idea of the Colony (re: using Batman techniques to kill!). Then there was the conspiracy theory of the League of Shadows existing in Gotham which was the mission that Tim co-opted. The drones were suppose to take out these covert Shadow members (innocents be damned) and the only way to stop the drones were to give them a new target (since they wouldn't stop until the target was eliminated) so Tim decided that he alone should be that target.

[@LordByron2752]

the plot is really good in this comic book . I read them but it always helps to listen to an explanation so thanks for these.

[@soup2634]

I agree this is very interesting. I'm especially interested in clay face. I hope him joining the bat fam isn't going to be retconned.

[@soccerguy1219]

I love your quick quote from the movie Contact!

[@sath2749]

I been watching your videos for some time and i want to say thanks. I have some thing i want to say that will lead to my question and i hope you read this and reply. I been into comics my whole life but when i was little i was too poor to afford them. when i was a teen and i got a job i started buying a lot of them. when i started reading batman regularly it was at the time Tim Drake was first introduced and though batman didn't want him to be robin he showed up as robin to save batman from scarecrow. I was never a huge batman or robin fan, but here was a new hero the same age as me and it kinda clicked. He became my favorite character. i felt like this was a character i could relate to. kinda intuitive, smart and nerdy. I then bought every robin comic book to come out cause of this. as years passed and i collected comics less, cause i had other expenses. I did not collect them but tried to keep up on the stories. Then the new 52 came out and i decided i will get back into collecting Robin again and found i could only find him in the new 52 teen titans. So i bought all the graphic novels. I liked the new outfit cause it separated him from the old and coming into his own like Nightwing, but they called him Red Robin and i was so pissed. Red Robin is a burger joint, and besides it was originally used as a mantel that Dick Greyson used. So why is he named Red Robin. Red Wing would have been better. Truly would like Night Hawk, but that is cause it is my name. (but that is unimportant.) Now i decided to give rebirth a look and see if i could get into it. I started reading Detective comics cause it was the only place Tim was but i am lost. I got no transition from new 52 to rebirth for him. He was with wonder girl, now he is with spoiler. (which is fine cause he was with her first), but i don't see any thing to follow. I mean Stephine makes fun of his old outfit, which was loads better then this one that basically makes him look like a step back to robin., and i still am unsure of what was or is still there from new 52. and then he got captured. I read a few more of the comics but no Red robin. So finally my question. do they ever find him? Is this a step to evolve Tim into a new identity? Cause I have no interest into getting into Detective comics if it is going to take a silly turn or if He is not going to be on the team. I don't like that clay face was added to the team and i guess i don't want this to be a mentoring thing. I mean Batman has enough comics. I would rather see Detective comics be about Tim and his partners, spoiler, orphan, and some one else that fits as a young detective style team making it on their own, not as side kicks.

[@MadGenius]

I have to admit that aftering watching this Comics Explained video on DC Rebirth left me INCAPACITATED!!!!!!

[@Mrstipes0321]

Every Rebirth video Rob be like, "THIS is the best Rebirth title!". Lol Rebirth rocks.

[@badjokemaker3051]

Another Robin bites the dust...for half a year.

[@hitcrower]

Your work is great and I really enjoyed this video!

[@travisdk84]

you forgot to put "Death" in quotation marks, but i guess that's pretty much redundant with comics at this point

[@Gundam_NeonOmen]

did anyone else laugh out loud every time he said "Stephanie Brown....spoiler"

[@shawnyetman6875]

Hey rob, have u evee done a video on the guardian? if not could u plz explain him. love your work man. plz keep the videos coming. you got a big fan here

[@TheJohno95]

What I love about DC in general, and the Bat-Family in specific, is how organically the cast has grown over the years and gelled. I wish Marvel could learn to do this rather than just keep trying to jam square pegs into round holes. The writers at DC just do soooo much of a better job writing the books. And the art is outstanding.

[@TevyaSmolka]

i love this story this is one of my all time favorite tim drake stores and a great team book too

[@julesjacobs8931]

Yes this story is outstanding Great comic writing

[@permeus2nd]

11:20 so my warning bells went off when they started talking about what if clayface was trained to fight like them, i know he's a good guy.... for now but if he was trained to the batfamily's level and went rogue i dont think the batfamily would be able to stop him.

[@thephantazm5139]

I wish they kept Cassandra as Bruce's daughter

[@micah459]

This is why Tim Drake is my favorite Robin

[@redlanternkalel6905]

keep it coming great vid

[@JRGomez81]

I felt Batwoman was very superfluous to the storyline and there were a couple of things that really annoyed me about her. 1. She knows Batman is Bruce Wayne because... COUSINS, I have a cousin I have known for my entire life, I was brought up with him, but there are still times when I can't tell what the hell he is thinking. Kate Kane has been around for maybe a couple of years at this point, but she somehow knows Bruce better than half of his inner circle? 2. Her being put in charge of the group because of her military experience when overall she is likely one of the least experienced members of the team baring Clayface. She could have worked just as well as a member of the second in command after Red Robin, doing things like putting them through drills. 3. She seems to follow the Gunny Hartman (from Full Metal Jacket) approach to leadership, break them down, regardless of what they bring to the table and make them what she wanted them to be. There was a point during their training when Stephanie is almost vomitting from exhaustion and she wants them to keep going. Red Robin underminds her in front of the others by overriding the training scenario and shutting it off, because it was the right thing to do, and she more or less gets away with it. 4. Finally, she brings in Daddy, who not 3 pages later goes on to betray the lot of them, something that, if she were half as good as the book is trying to suggest, she would have had some idea of all this, but nope. She knows who Batman is because COUSINS and she has not been around him all that long, but she doesn't know the person she is closest to is running a multi-billion dollar operation to copy Batman. So she will respect and keep quiet about something the government wants to keep secret, but the people she is working with.... pfft screw their privacy...

[@JRGomez81]

However, thanks in part to this video, I have come to understand that Batwoman isn't the main character of this story, she is the point of view character. Red Robin is the main character. He is the one with the personal crisis, he is the one with the trial to overcome and ultimately he is the one who gives his all. Batwoman is really more his foil here than anything else.

[@zetarise9376]

Huh, I thought Azreal was beat up by the fake Batmen that Batwoman's father was creating.

[@KingLeemur]

Zeta Rise that's what I gathered from it and everyone who reviewed it thinks otherwise. The beginning where the silhouetted batman is fighting azreal is one of the Batmen. They don't really do the time transition well

[@CosmicNerdStudios]

yeah, i dont think this video is as good as his others, i recently went back through and he got alot of details wrong

[@CosmicNerdStudios]

yeah, i dont think this video is as good as his others, i recently went back through and he got alot of details wrong

[@liverusrock6789]

You're right, he's wrong in a couple of other things too, like this Batwoman been the N52 when she is really pre N52 Batwoman.

[@omegahtv6779]

this story was beautifully written yo, I agree.

[@josephlampariello2208]

i really enjoy the parts where batman subtly opens up to robin. To me thats when batman is the realest dude.

[@GeroniMomartinezMG]

I always thought that Tim Drake was one of the least prominent Robins. Like, Damian even jokes that Tim is forgettable. Rob, I hope one day you make a full biography dedicated to Tm Drake to discuss his character and his importance, cuz I really feel like he has made the least impact among the Robins...and if anyone in the comments can explain to me his character more, I welcome you to do that, because I want to understand him more.

[@spiderbatman97]

+Geronimo Martinez Forgetable?, this is the Robin that has the most longest solo series of the 4 ones. He is the guy that made people think that Robin was cool, Dick is more famous for being Nightwing, people really didn't like Jason when he came and many still prefer him as a corpse and Damian is base breaker charather (half of the fandom hate him and the other half love him), he is the only Robin that figured the Batman's identity by himself and the one that join to him, not with the objective to look for revenge but because he realized that Bruce really need a more lighter shade in his life to make him stable. The problem is that after New 52 most of the traits were erased in Lodbell make him a very generic charather.

[@GeroniMomartinezMG]

spiderbatman97 ah. I'm only familiar with new 52 stuff tbh. what titles can you recommend for me to read so that i can understand Tim Drake more? And when did he become Red Robin instead of just Robin? An issue of Red Hood and Arsenal explained that Tim was intimidated by Jason's legacy of being the robin that died so he chose to be red robin instead. is that consistent with Tim's mythos?

[@spiderbatman97]

Geronimo Martinez Look for the trade called "Robin vol 1: Reborn" and anything about the charather that has been written by Chuck Dixon, his Red Robin series from 2009 is hit and miss, but i sugest to give him a try to that one. He became in Red Robin after the "Battle for The Cowl" storyline when Dick (who was Batman at the time) decided to make Damian Robin. No, thats the New 52 story, he choose originally to be Robin, for what it represented for Batman.

[@spiderbatman97]

Geronimo Martinez Also Peter David's Young Justice book.

[@GeroniMomartinezMG]

spiderbatman97 Thanks! :D

[@demonteprice5870]

the think the dude in the hood is Ozymandias acting as an agent of Doctor Manhattan watching the heroes at ground level

[@Emi_the_rat]

Do you have to put it in the title and thumbnail? There are still people patiently waiting for trades.

[@JoeBrando_]

if people are waiting for the trade then why are they watching this video?

[@austineaton2646]

Yea im pissed. im not waiting for the trades but im just now getting into batman so i havent picked the issues up yet.

[@exseraph-1344]

Batarang Nerd It's in their sub feed, so even if they didn't watch the video the thumbnail already spoiled it

[@JoeBrando_]

EXSeraph - too bad

[@austineaton2646]

It shouldn't be too bad i think im gonna unsub cuz of this bullshit.

[@BenjiDWJ]

Awesome video :) I thought this story was fantastic.

[@L0n3W0lfBl4ck]

Such a good storyline.

[@SeekingNMComics]

well explained! gotta love the DC rebirth.

[@michaelthethird702]

Detective comics has been excellent. Bravo to DC

[@jamesmason1318]

In this story of "Detective Comics" Colonel Kane claimed he was fighting the League of Shadows, but to Batman they are a myth he heard about from Ra's al Ghul (who runs the League of Assassins, don't mix them up). Those drones were sent to eliminate suspected members of the League of Shadows in Gotham. Now, while the majority of the people who were being evacuated by the heroes were probably innocent, that man with the beard and a hat could have been a member of the League. If my little theory is correct that would suggest that Batman was wrong about the existence of the League of Shadows and that a bigger war is waiting for him, Batwoman and the rest of the team. But like I said this is only my little theory.

[@nickyoakum1819]

Okay. Just so ppl don't get confused. This is Kate Kane. Not Kathy Kane. Kathy is the original Batwoman. Who married into the Kane family.

[@AwareWolfOnWheels]

I'm loving this arc.

[@Wren4123]

Doesn't matter if others came out with it first. loyal to you Rob! ....... And comicstorin...

[@user-oc6ol]

so close to 1 million subs

[@Chandasouk]

I didn't even read Detective Comics until 934, but Tim Drake's death still hit me hard

[@redxsage]

Excellent.

[@KevsCollectibleSpot]

love your videos

[@Roran109]

Rob's great, but he made a few mistakes here. When he says Dr. Leslie Thomson, he means Dr. Leslie Thompkins. When he says Cathy Kane, he means Kate Kane.

[@vidalayvongkhamchanh1142]

First time I've heard "Stamina" pernounced "Stimina".

[@OMlN0US]

like this one and Aquaman. pretty solid throughout the first Arc

[@GloTheActivist300]

Does anyone know how the other Robin's reacted to his death?

[@kratosgow2]

He isn't dead

[@GloTheActivist300]

Dragon Ballzzz Deep I know.. they think he's dead

[@FireTrainer92]

Dick is the only Robin that has any reaction so far. Damien and Jason's books haven't gotten that far. Dick went to Starfire however in Teen Titans Rebirth.

[@GeroniMomartinezMG]

Well Damian rounded up the sort of disbanded teen titans following Tim's death. Still waiting for the next issue of Teen Titans Rebirth to see if Damian feels any loss from Tim's death. I had this impression that they were never really close. I think the only Robin Damian ever respected/loved was Dick.

[@jeremiahmuhammad4722]

K.Dot in Jason's book he says he couldn't go to Tim's funeral

[@thomask.4532]

Man,I really like Clayface.Anyway Rob great video!

[@MisterW99]

Please do a video on A.R.G.U.S. I'd like to know how they started. What's their agenda and who's been part of it.

[@cmw986]

Have you done a video yet explaining Dr. Manhattan? If he is doing all this it would probly be a good idea I doubt everyone really knows who what and what he is able to do.

[@wasmadeinthe80s]

First time I've heard "Stamina" pernounced "Stimina".

[@1MarkKeller]

Put sum respek onnit yo.

[@Stan2171]

PureKaoZ how is that relavant

[@michael.e9353]

hey rob loved the vid. what's the name of the outro song?

[@dean5701]

Super interested to see where the bigger picture leads!

[@sarkastikleader4708]

I am a long time fan of both DC and Marvel and I must say the Rebirth series is by far better than the All New All Different Marvel. It seems that Marvel is waaayyyy too extra when it comes to telling stories. It's a blatant cash cow. DC is making everyone happy. Good writing, awesome stories and basically allowing things to flow very smoothly across he board for New and old fans like myself. When I began reading comics Tim Drake for me, was my first Robin (and still my favorite Robin). This story was awesome and can't wait to see how this all unfolds.

[@aesrys]

Nice Contact quote.

[@CrystalSanchez094]

i got misty eyed when i saw Tim Drake Die, but since i dont read Comics that much i dont remember what happened after this Issue.

[@antwan1357]

I know people don't understand this, Tim Drake when he wants to disappear he can really disappear and no one can find him. So Tim Drake manipulating events from the shadows is no surprise.

[@nunyabeezwax848]

I thought Martha Wayne's maiden name was "Caine" not "Kane". In Zero Year her brother, Bruce's uncle looked after Wayne Enterprises and his last name was also " Caine". I don't know if I'm wrong or not. Plus , wasn't Batwoman introduced as a love interest for Batman in the 50's?

[@teamf.y.c8718]

hey rob you think you can do a run down on the hulk vs the juggernaut?

[@xXStrifeXx017]

what is the name of that song towards the end of the video!?!?!

[@rburk121]

I like Rob's unusual and redundant word choices when he explains the stories. I think it's because he doesn't have a set in stone script for the episodes?

[@antwan1357]

Tim drake was always the best Robin ,but for not the reasons people think he is the worst fighting Robin ,and his detection skills are rival to if not are better then Batman' s ,and Tim Drake watches and learns about others like Batman ,and if he can study anyone he trumps them automatically, it is only when he meets a new character that Tim Drake is in serious danger, even when Tim Drake is out of the scene Tim can size up a situation and manipulate events to come out in a way he chooses, better then anyone , which is why in Batman Beyond Tim Drake is such a dangerous Joker, the only reason Batman Beyond won the day was because , Tim Drake did not consider him worthy enough to study otherwise Batman Beyond ends.

[@Madonx1]

I really enjoyed James Tynion's writing on Batman and Robin Eternal so that really made me enjoy detective comics so far. I'm gonna have to buy the trades after this arc though because I don't have enough money right now to keep buying the single issues :(

[@ting280]

beardy truckerguy is Oz in disguise

[@thekingant2726]

Please could you do: Mad Jim Jaspers vs Zero Hour Hal Superboy Prime vs KC Gog or Thanos Void vs Starheart Alan Scott Destroyer Armour vs Entrophy Armour vs Ultron Dark Phoenix vs Takion Etc

[@r1skt8k3r]

Loved the Batmen story line, however, I didn't care much for the Monster Men storyline crossover, pretty mediocre!!! Keep up the great vids and analysis!!!

[@ViewtifulBr080]

can't wait for the death stroke run to finish

[@kdub9604]

Arael needs to come back with a attitude!

[@humblemonkm61]

loved it!

[@lightningcomet7307]

I am totally buying this book. also a quick theory: is the plaid shirt guy... danny dreiberg/nite owl II? acting as a kind of resistance against dr. Manhattan and ozymandias? just an idea. he looks a bit like him...

[@mattttwalker18]

Lightning Comet Night Owl doesn't have all black eyes

[@lightningcomet7307]

I considered that, but idk

[@BasicallyBasic]

I thought that the Army was correct about the League of Shadows existing, and the Batfamily being wrong, and that person with the black eyes was a sleeper agent for the League of Shadows.

[@Magmaster13]

I found it annoying how they killed off Tim Drake so soon after the kill Damian and dick

[@GeroniMomartinezMG]

At least it's fair now, all 4 Robins already died in their own ways :p

[@LhynnBlue]

Tim Drake had already "died" before flashpoint, got eaten by killer croc, or at least it seemed that way.

[@chinyereugwu9431]

Yeah that is sucky. it also feels awkward. I'm still waiting for Bruce to start digging and investigating his death. Trying to fix it like he did with Damian. At the very least go back and look into it further.

[@LhynnBlue]

Chinyere Ugwu Seems Oz staged his death perfectly. Still, Drake was the only one in the whole world that didnt believe bruce died, and he was the one that proved it to bring him back.

[@chinyereugwu9431]

Lhynn Saint Yeah. Although they just portrayed that instinct as an obsessional delusion that turned out to be correct [because comics]. It would be good if they have Bruce actively take it upon himself to dig a little deeper. Show a connection between them that isn't one sided.

[@ZR_SPD]

so what happened to the Tim Drake at the end of batman beyond right before rebirth started?

[@lordr1c325]

So you forgot to mention that the other time displaced Tim Drake who became Batman Beyond was also "kidnapped". So its possible that Mr.Oz or whoever is targeting Tim Drakes. just a thought

[@jjsplat1079]

FINALLY TIM AND STEPH HAVE BEEN FIXED

[@Nexion3653]

One of my favorite books In DC Rebirth

[@dekalios4588]

He is not DEAD, he is with Mr Oz

[@superxdale9715]

I like the suble starship troopers reference

[@DanielGaeta13]

I find it interesting that Tim Drake is taken out from this comic but he's been in the Batman Beyond Comics as Batman Beyond until Terry McGinnis was brought back recently. at the very end of the Batman Beyond comic where Terry McGinnis returns and becomes Batman again Tim Drake rides off in this future Gotham to see the world and is transported Away by a white light. is it just me or does it seem like this is the watchman's influence now that it's revealed that dr. Manhattan may have been the entire cause of The New 52. the hooded figure may very well be Ozymandias

[@mattttwalker18]

I don't think that man is Clark, the outfit could be a nod to him I suppose but I think he's a member of the League of Shadows, the faction of the LoA that Colonel Kane is apparently trying to destroy.. as for the unnamed man that saved Tim Drake I think he's somehow related to the Watchmen Universe since this isn't the first time he's shown up, time will tell I guess

[@ITpanda]

Batman is the best, Period. You are a master of storytelling sir. Should comics go the way of the book (audio), you would make a great narrator.

[@wbsbwpp]

Where does Batwoman's long red hair go when she's not in her costume?

[@CiliosX]

it's a wig.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

Zhool Figure been a wig since her and batman met

[@171relic]

It's connected to the suit itself. you can see it when she's talking to her father at the beginning

[@estebanhughell709]

in fights having long hair is usually impractical seems odd she would handicap herself.

[@comics_explained]

Yeah but with bright red hair, it stands out and would be something villains would look for. By using it as a wig, it adds to her discretion.

[@isaiahjones9283]

Daddy Kane is a dangerous man!!

[@andrewburgess-linden9612]

He's Gonna Come back; Jason Did, Damian Did, Tim Will definitely Come back.

[@roysalvador2126]

Who is the guy in the red plad shirt with the hat???????

[@gildarmesh3809]

7:56 YUMM

[@collincorbean6357]

Come on rob. You done goofed. I haven't picked up issue 2 yet

[@Krisstoof1]

When new 52 begin, authors told us. That this universe is from merging dc, wildstorm and vertigo. Now when dc rebirth begin they told us this is just took 10 years from previous universe. I'm confused with this.

[@atgeki]

DC is really making a move in the Comic Book world, Marvel doesn't seems to hold up from what I see. Great Stories. Btw this is from a person who loves them all, so don't come for me. I got things to do today, lol.

[@bigq1977]

Whats your opinion on Detective Comic #642? I think the Return of Scarface storyline was well written.

[@josephbrockettii585]

Ya know I was thinking it could be Superboy/Superman Prime myself but didn't seem like his MO. He never did things on a grand scale using cunning and intelligence. He was always emotional and butt hurt all the time. He lacked control. Unless, there was something major that occurred to him while still being stuck on the source wall....his last known location. Geoff Johns has said there was more to Superboy Prime, but you'd still have to explain a lot to get him to the point of Mr. Oz. Dr. Manhattan could have seen him as coming from "the real world" and it could have meant something to him. All that pain and emotional tidal waves and giving SP another shot? I think the identity being Ozymandias (possibly working with Dr. Manhattan) makes the mystery of who he is too easy and therefor not really one.....we just need confirmation. If that's the case then the value comes into as the how and why of it all. How are they/him pulling all of this off (snatching Doomsday away from Superman using a device to send Doomsday to the negative zone, keeping Doomsday contained, the dimension/place he is residing, what allows him to watch everything happen and being able to go everywhere, etc...)? Then the big question: why? With making corrections, why wait until now, why with subtle piece movement....if Dr. Manhattan is involved he could easily just 'make it so'. Then again, there wouldn't be a story to tell if it happened that easy and Rebirth would suck. I guess it all comes down to all good things come to those who wait. Another theory I've heard is that Dr. Manhattan could have created the entire DCU. Did he also create the multiverse that exists due to that as well. Was the Watchmen's original world/universe the 'real world' and once Dr. Manhattan created a new one he shatter space and time and create a multiverse? Its interesting to see a merge of Watchmen's world and the whole DCU. I mean DC has mixed in Wildstorm and whatnot before. Is this a push for a grand universe merge? Time will tell.....

[@josephbrockettii585]

I meant to say this earlier....I wonder if this is Geoff Johns is trying to get the DCU out from the Judeo-Christian creation with it's hierarchy similar to Marvel, using Dr. Manhattan....? I just hope it doesn't turn into some alternate version of Dr. Manhattan and Ozymandias from yet another reality, similar but not exactly like the Watchmen......

[@gablelau8572]

duuude, what if Mr. Oz is Ozymandias and he and Dr. Manhattan decided to create the New 52 Universe together after the events of Watchmen?! But we'll have to wait like 1-2 years to find out

[@SuperNinjaWorld]

I haven't read he comic but I'm wondering....why didn't he make the target clayface? Couldn't he eat all the bullets?

[@EpickEmpire]

I have a couple of things to say about this. 1. I'm glad to see Tim back in his actual Robin costume. The one that looks the best. The one he originated, though with some tweaks here and there. But.... 2. Why go by "Red Robin" when that is clearly his "Robin" suit? 3. I like Stephanie's being back and I like that her costume is like a mix of her original Spoiler costume with her Batgirl costume. 4. It's great to have Cassandra Cain back in the mix! Though, I'm not too wild over her "Orphan" persona, I'm glad to have her back. But I also sort of feel like having Batwoman call shots over her sort of super weakens her character.

[@ZarPof]

What are the most popular comic heroes of all time? Superman, Batman, Spider-man. What would be next on the list?

[@justyngrant9325]

ZarPof Wolverine

[@TsunamiXXL]

My Little Pony

[@liviucalmuschi2089]

X-Men in general... they saved Marvel in the 90s

[@itzalpha7918]

Wolverine, Iron man, captain America, Flash and Wonder Woman

[@ZarPof]

Itz Alpha I think Hulk might be in there too. Until recently Ironman wasn't that popular.

[@keptyouwaiting12h65]

stimana. love you Rob