Rob Liefeld: A Love Him or Hate Him Artist - Comic Tropes (Episode 3)

[@Feretchan]

The sad fact is that those peppers got him twice. Humans can't brake down the heat in our digestive tract so it hits you again later on... poor dude

[@ComicTropes]

Feretchan It's true.

[@ZeroDividedByZero]

Kinda like having a reflash after getting pepper sprayed

[@TheJtl420]

Hurts going in🥵, Hell coming out.😭💩

[@melanisticmandalorian]

@@ComicTropes your poor, poor taste buds and anus.

[@joeblankenship377]

I used to cook fajitas a lot. Loved putting a lot of grilled jalapenos in. But I'd be throwing flames in the toilet. Better to go 1:3 jalapeno:bell than 2:2.

[@pongseythepongsey7213]

After biting a radioactive pepper, he became the Tangy Pepper Man

[@jimmyboy131]

With pouches, grimaces, and non-gun-looking guns aplenty. And his feet disappeared.

[@mknaomidestiny]

And the pepper became Comic Trope Pepper ™

[@NeroLeMorte]

Doctor Pepper

[@daragudzhunova8188]

@ It's sad that you'd go down the comments copy pasting the same attention seeking reply in all of them.

[@daragudzhunova8188]

@ The point of commenting is making a comment. Not spamming other people's replies to get attention. If people want to acknowledge you they will, what you're doing is pointless, annoying and leaves a bad impression.

[@watbot5647]

Hurts just as much as all those women's broken spines

[@dopdrop8998]

@bastard At least they’ve got massive fucking legs and abs.

[@mycontentcreation5264]

The chiropractors in a Rob liefeld’s universe have the greatest business

[@gladialle]

why are you suffering for liefeld's crimes!!! 😭😭😭

[@MGSBigBoss77]

What he said!

[@toonbat]

Why do we all?

[@TacosAreWizard]

He is the comic book messiah!

[@QwertyCaesar]

In this video we see some poor sod torture himself while reading Rob Liefeld comicbooks. But I repeat myself.

[@dannyc8876]

and also he ate those hot peppers at the same time, amazing.

[@GleeChan]

It's a good thing he ate the peppers once per trope, otherwise he might be dead!

[@tuffy135ify]

on the first page

[@malusignatius]

"No wait, there's a little flavour..." AND THAT FLAVOUR IS DEATH.

[@mr.mysterious4358]

Death AND pain

[@justincathcart1978]

This is the most inhumane suicide attempt I've ever seen.

[@darthgriffin7741]

Rob:(doodles a slade rip-off, releases it) Comic readers: eh Actual good writer: Hey do you mind if I see that for a sec? Rob: sure. AGW: (adds traits to DP people actually like, releases it) General audiences:(loves it) Rob: hey guys look at this badass and hilarious character I made. Isn’t he so funny?

[@plaguerat5911]

Why is Rob Liefeld in the replies?

[@enotsnavdier6867]

Pretty sure the same thing happened with Supreme. Leifeld made a character, it was meh, a good creator came along and made them way better.

[@JunkyardKid]

Nailed it!

[@briancrocker3377]

@ YES> SAD FOR YOU, not the comics industry.

[@kuahmelallah]

@ many 90s artists are pretty painful to look at now. All those texture and shadow lines from Everyone trying to be Todd McFarlane or Scott Williams just made every book look scratchy. Almost the sole reason the art did a 180 and got minimalist today. Art from 78-88 was so clean by comparison.

[@CrazyChiv]

I've heard of suffering for your art, but suffering for _someone else's_ art? That's insane! Fair play to ya.

[@lamartherevenger]

The things you do for us. We don't deserve it.

[@ComicTropes]

You definitely deserve it. I plan to do some more things like this in the future. I just want it to be thematically appropriate whenever possible.

[@mycontentcreation5264]

@@ComicTropes this really feels like Jesus imaging I can’t be the the only one right?

[@odinson99m]

After the video was done he spent ten hours in the bathroom screaming "I'M SORRY!!!" lol

[@walters.2577]

I know right! there was an inferno coming out of his bunghole 🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂

[@WideAwake127]

Then spreading the heat with every wipe.

[@tim6096]

"some random guy punishes himself for some other random guy's ugly art style"

[@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.]

@ Idk, I don't read comic books anymore.

[@chockabout]

@ Considering the great artists working today and the sheer breadth of content out there, that makes absolutely no sense to me.

[@aderemiporsche]

@@chockabout Really? Have you seen the majority of artwork in Marvel's recent comics? Or picked up an issue of Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, Ms. Marvel, IDW's latest GI Joe run or that god-awful Matt Fraction Hawkeye series?

[@lesteryaytrippy7282]

@ it is sad. Don't worry you'll find better comic/illustrators and artists

[@iamnobody3793]

@ it was more interesting.

[@alinaserafimova3368]

That was surprisingly informative in regard to peppers. And Rob Liefeld, of course; never gonna forget that man.

[@Draliseth]

"The seed is powerful." The juvenile in me chuckled quite heartily.

[@JR-ju3kj]

That's what she said! Ha! Ha!

[@justlikeyourfathersaid]

Jon Arryn moment

[@Rometiklan]

HahA! Love these! Having such a blast going through your past vids. There's a real appreciation for these creators behind all the ridicule. Keep them coming!

[@ComicTropes]

Oh yeah. I absolutely love this stuff.

[@dominicrigsby8547]

@@ComicTropes it tells. This is my favorite channel on KZbin. You have renewed my interest in comics.

[@NavarinoDC]

Watching you eating those peppers nearly made me die...laughing! 😆

[@atomicbarbarian7372]

@@ComicTropes Watching this in 2020. So did you blow out the ol' o-ring? Did you end up having to replace your toilet?

[@MrJon76]

Rob Liefeld's style is a piss-poor imitation of Arthur Adams artwork. The end. His comics sold well because of speculators buying multiple copies.

[@Megared82]

Note to self: DON'T risk your health and taste buds for Rob Liefeld.

[@JayFreely]

"Health" They're peppers

[@dante_0962]

@@JayFreely and?

[@Byronic19134]

@@dante_0962 Peppers are one of the healthiest foods on the planet, and also of note is that "Hot/Spicy" is not a taste bud.

[@coltsfan354]

The fact that you kept your channel going with this kind of self punishment is a testament to you, Chris.

[@oceanflowerrs]

this is how i feel reading a rob liefield comic. like i don't eat the peppers but the effects of them still happen to me just by reading it

[@CC-oq7dx]

Dude its criminal you don't have more subs and views. Going to post this around on facebook

[@ComicTropes]

That's very kind of you. Thanks!

[@rorylumley4727]

Drawings lines on everything except things that should have them like shafts or spider-mans webing.

[@stevenstygles255]

Liefeld Spider-Man isone of the worst rendition. He always had him arching his shoulders and his eyes were never where Parker's eyes would have been. I think only his rendition of Caps pecs is worse than his Spider-Man.

[@EuskadiJoloMas]

Shatterstar's cape flapping like in a wind storm but he's in a living room lol plus missing pony tail in panel but it's back in panel 4 blowing in opposite direction of cape still indoors Were editors not invented yet??

[@mycontentcreation5264]

Comic books: What the hell is a editor?

[@rickypoole965]

You forgot the "can't draw capes or folds" thing. Almost every cape he draws looks like plumes or feathers where folds are supposed to be. Most annoying thing ever.

[@denvernaicker8250]

your mistake, a plume can be found in the most sophisticated of material, around the air of a hero, these gestures are unending, unlike your damp drape fold

[@mabels7010]

I think you mean “can’t draw”

[@islandchain]

series of tubes

[@islandchain]

PVC cape.........................900 rupees, Armor +xx

[@eVill420]

@ yes, I think that the digitally drawn comics look amazing

[@aldi404]

Even after 4 years still my favourite Comic Tropes video

[@fuegosonic93]

Somehow, the more recent the comics are, the uglier his drawings are, how's that even posible?! He should be getting BETTER, NOT THE OPPOSITE!

[@MadTheDJ]

I'm a professional fine artist and back in the late '90s, in high school and university, I wrote and drew a little indie comic series. I like to think my work improved over those 5-6 years, mainly out of sheer repetition. Draw the same characters over and over and you refine your style very quickly. But unless you're pushing yourself to improve, being critical of possible shortcuts in your work that weaken your style, those shortcuts gradually become the norm, your baseline. It's an easy trap to fall into because of the repetition, and it requires constant monitoring to avoid.

[@favoritemustard3542]

@@MadTheDJ 工〇Ɯƨ: Don't be a nut **_thwuck_** **_thwuck_** In a rut **_thwuck_** **_thwuck_** 〔but, by all means〕 Be crazy.

[@JR-ju3kj]

Indeed,he's gotten worse over time. I always tell people who want to work in the comic book industry that if Liefeld can do it,so can you! That's what I tell myself every day!

[@ZethKeeper]

I like that Rob is self-aware of his tropes, so he created a character The Pouch recently.

[@roproart6529]

This was the first video of yours I've ever seen. Pretty cool. Good memories too.

[@ComicTropes]

RoProArt Thanks for giving it a watch.

[@DB.KOOPER]

Describing a pepper as... "peppery"... well, you nailed it, it certainly is that LOL. BTW water only spreads capsaicin around.

[@ComicTropes]

I couldn't concentrate and think straight! I learned my lesson (sort of).

[@DaveTh3Ninja]

Rob Liefeld to the pain?! Brave man. I wouldn't do this. That feeling is courage... courage and impending explosive diarrhea

[@JR-ju3kj]

This was certainly entertaining but hardly necessary and the point could still have been made just as effectively in a myriad of other ways. You don't need to risk your health for Rob Liefeld.

[@SamHintz]

I just found this channel and I'm loving it! I appreciate you staying impartial to Rob's art. Lots of people hate him nowadays but I feel people treat him a little unfairly.

[@Mvillano13]

Dude, your sacrifice just earned a suscriber

[@ComicTropes]

Mvillano13 Thanks.

[@mclovin6829]

I love that it's a crazy gimmick video without any click bait title. "Today I'm examining the works of Rembrandt. For every trope I'll squeeze a hot pepper into my eye."

[@ESJ69]

I had to go back a re-watch this one. I always crack up around 17-19 min. mark when you start really hearing the pain in your voice off camera. 😂 This video probably took all day to make.

[@edvoorhees4253]

Was never a fan of Liefled, but I do consider him the quintessential 90’s comic artist. You put his tropes on full display here. Liked the pepper per trope game, way to take one for the team! Entertaining and observant episode. Thanks.

[@isolationdisorder]

I’ve been collecting comics since 1977, and drawing professionally since the late eighties. I have always loved that Rob Liefeld completely had his own style in an industry full of clones. Like Jack Kirby and Berni Wrightson, Rob’s work is always immediately identifiable. I also loved his super dynamic layouts. I found his work to really embody the fun and action that comics were all about for me.

[@jasonchislett3282]

Dude, you're my new favorite KZbinr 😂😂

[@blyrax]

This man is the definition of manliness. You, my man, have risen to a higher pedestal in my books.

[@simbriant]

"Every time we encounter a Rob Liefeld trope I will eat a pepper." So you have chosen self-immolation.

[@Azkadelya]

I only got to the jalapeno when I started yelling 'God no, love yourself!' at every bite. You are a stronger man than most of us. Great video, loved it, i worry about you.

[@TheLoreacle]

18:31 that moment when you realize you spent money on a Liefeld comic

[@JR-ju3kj]

I'll only spend money on Liefeld comics that I can get at bargain bins for back issues at Comic Stores. I would never spend an exorbitant amount of money on a comic by Liefeld.

[@SciFiFan2012]

so much Youngblood's disease in this video! Love it, love this topic, subbed!

[@PartyDemoness]

I'm amazed you're alive after this.

[@ComicTropes]

ClockworkKanella I didn't learn my lesson. I tried hot sauces for the Swamp Thing review.

[@vanthadoun1]

I remember reading comic books in the 90s, loved Liefelds work, but then I started to read other comic books and quickly noticed how anatomy and proportions work. yes, Rob Liefeld is a good introductory comic book artist and many people get introduced to comics through his artwork. I agree with the tropes, its his thing. I don't fault him for it, but yes he does have a certain style that is very very repetitive. My favorite artist is Jim Lee.

[@Woog87]

Love the content. Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels. Keep up the good work!

[@BigBoy257]

I honestly kinda like Liefeld’s art. Some of it isn’t that good, others are technically bad but I still like them for their charming 90s styles, others are bad but I still like them anyways, and some are genuinely good.

[@ion-shivs]

The crazy part is, Major X - his new book - proves that he hasn't learned a thing or improved his drawing skills in 25 years.

[@jayrollins4111]

I have to say, the “too many teeth” trope is because that’s what his teeth look like

[@mrcliff3709]

More teeth than the Osmund Family

[@JR-ju3kj]

I feel like Liefeld falls into the category of artists that look like their art(and that's not a good thing in his case).

[@barthalen]

Hahaha, I love how for the market montage you used Jon Daly's fake Pepper song, that was fantastic. Abracadabraliiifooorniaaa...

[@gearzdesign]

My friend grows Reapers, and he eats everything up to ghost raw/whole with little issue... When I saw you have issue with the jalapeno, I knew we were in for a treat.

[@joeysopinion4463]

I like how he has Red Hot Chili Peppers in the background wile getting the peppers

[@500usd4]

This video was so great! But omg when you ate that whole chile pequin I winced in pain for you.

[@ComicTropes]

I learned my lesson.

[@dougg1075]

Dude I’ll say it again, this channel is a treasure to all who love comics. Keep going!

[@LikaLaruku]

I swear to god the first series of Jojo's Bizarre Adventures was spoofing Rob Liefeld as much as it was Fist of the North Star. I've been to Pike's Market a few times & had no idea there was a hidden comic book store there. Spicy Pepper Technology has come a long way since you posted this video. The Ghost Chili is now barely in the Top 10 hottest. I recommend full-fat cottage cheese, cream cheese, whipping cream, or sour cream for reducing pepper burn.

[@crackerjack0349]

I mean with Jonathan you could be correct

[@AceLM92]

I like coming back to these older videos to see it how this show has progressed over the years. Watching you eat all those peppers made me think you must have had a long painful time in the bathroom the next day LOL

[@unapologeticcook7168]

I actually started copying Liefeld's art style when I was in HS bec. he'a the easiest to copy. Then my artwork evolved thru out the years.

[@dannyc8876]

In this video we see a poor guy torture himself while reading Rob Liefeld comicbooks, and also he eats those spicy peppers.

[@jogiff]

I love the fact that you used a parody of the Red Hot Chili Peppers instead of actually using RHCP

[@Flassh81]

Having grown up on Liefeld art, I have s soft spot for his work. I can admit it isn't very good. But the memories I have.

[@dieseltyme]

Hell of a finale! You couldn't pay me enough to eat a ghost pepper.

[@gagelehr7568]

Great video. Looking forward to binging on the rest of your stuff.

[@ShinAdamSmasher]

You can hate Rob Liefeld as an artist, but in interviews he comes across as a pretty cool guy.

[@wonderwaffle93]

Very strange to find a live torture vid being uploaded on KZbin without it being taken down for so long. And on a Comic channel out of all places!

[@cgr1105]

I was sold at.. "let's go buy some comics" lol. With regards to Liefeld.. I always thought "he's no McFarlane".

[@julianrain6467]

What's mindboggling is that at 12:38 he had a perfect reason to hide the feet of the guy in the front (since he already successfully hid the feet of the other guys) yet he actually does not. Instead he fucking puts them in the other panel where they are just ruining the whole panel :D

[@stone-hand]

I, too, liked Liefeld back in the days. Then, I started drawing myself - a year later, I couldn't ignore the weak points in his drawing technique. Also, at the time I had the impression that he was de-evolving as an artist, that he was growing increasingly sloppier as time went by.

[@chapterblaq]

You referencing to Chairman Kaga made my day. I loved that show.

[@Gummiehz]

for future reference, if you ever want to torture yourself with peppers again, milk is the best for helping take the edge off the hot

[@NemFX]

As a comic artist, I can attest: forgetting stuff from panel to panel happen. If you don't put in something, then you make a note of it in your head. But each time you come back to it, you just get used to it not being there, so that becomes what's normal in your head.

[@DefilerWyrm]

Liefeld's success is the biggest comic book mystery of all time. Holy crap he is SO BAD.

[@porsche911sbs]

Kids in the '90s loved his over-the-top macho style

[@9kay]

@@porsche911sbs I'm a 90's kid and this looked horrible. Maybe that's why manga took off.

[@mrspeigel3593]

Also he didn't look to bad when he had help by an actual talented artist. Walt Simonson helped him out alot and McFarland inked most of his covers.

[@Djanck000]

@@porsche911sbs No, we didn't. The people who hire artists love him for some reason, but the kids were making fun of that shit from day 1.

[@Low_Rent]

I wouldn’t buy any comic with his art. I thought it was awful.

[@benprewitt4600]

"I don't know if you can see, but my eyes are already watering." That's not the peppers, Chris. ;)

[@Faby07aleixo]

You are the hero we need

[@gumbygreeneye3655]

Had to give a like. The sheer effort it took to do this is palpable.

[@royjones8312]

Blows my mind this guy doesn’t have a million plus subs. Love this channel. One of my top five.

[@jetman80pops]

Forget what issue of Young bloods but one panel had a character looking in a refrigerator. The character had his legs spread out further then width of the refrigerator.

[@omophagia]

have some yogurt next time you try the pepper method

[@ComicTropes]

omophagia Will do.

[@craigjs]

Isn't it time people stopped suffering Rob's art? :D Your dedication is amazing. My mouth was burning just watching you.

[@GraemeGunn]

"Rob, have you had any formal art training?" instant reply - "No." I think that says it all.

[@TheLoreacle]

Was he trying to warn us?

[@cencinisbooks9669]

Thanks for the video and for suffering to our amusement. Reading back any old Rob Liefeld comics will be even more painful now.

[@baileym43ish]

here in 2019 going through the back catalog waiting for the "keep reading comics" origin.

[@robslack5468]

I thought watching you destroy yourself with alcohol was entertaining, but the insanity of the peppers take things to a new level. You are a madman!

[@3dartistguy]

It’s sad that after 30 years Liefield still has not learned the basics of drawing.

[@monkeymanbob]

Rob Liefield is one of the reeasons I gace up buying comics for about 10 years. I just remember being utterly confused about what was happening on the page - add this to Maximum Clonage, etc and I'd had enough

[@DevilBoy-ww9ud]

Comic critiques aside, those peppers looked delicious. I love hot food.

[@crypttion2061]

Awesome vid, yo! Much props to you! It was worth every minute watching you eat the peppers!

[@acescomicart]

This is awesome lol nobody can complain about you calling them out on their BS because you definitely pay the ultimate price. 😂

[@akaforart653]

I came here almost exactly three years later and I wasn't even planning it!

[@Excellsion]

I am really glad you couldn't find a Naga Viper pepper or anything like that.

[@gastimason4602]

man I love your channel, keep up the good work!!

[@downtownearth828]

Lmfao! Thank you, your shows are awesome!

[@RickyGA1985]

These videos are fun to watch. Thanks for doing them.

[@ComicTropes]

Richard Granger Thanks for watching.

[@TheGamedude101]

Lmfao when he brought up the peppers I was like "Oh shit, he gonna die"

[@winterkrash]

I love how you incorporate your neighborhood and some of its history into your videos.

[@JimV90]

I honestly feel bad for Rob Liefeld. Yes, in my opinion he is at fault for not developing his art to a more sophisticated level, but the amount of hate this guy gets just doesn't seem right. I, as well as others may find it difficult to grasp how he became famous for his comics, but the fact of the matter is, people out there do like his art, otherwise he would not be where he's at in life. This all just goes to demonstrate the subjectivity of art.

[@Impybutt]

I think most of the ire Rob Liefeld gets for his art has to to with the fact that he earns millions of dollars for being sup-par, and has actively influenced a lot of young artists who regarded his work as something to aspire to.

[@KTF0]

The analogous to Liefeld is Limp Bizkit and Adam Sandler. Completely juvenile in its art but kids think it's cool especially when you don't see the stupidity. I worked at a Limp Bizkit concert and the most people you saw was 10-14 year olds. Limp Bizkit is essentially below average rap on top of below average metal guitars, but you see Fred Durst backwards hat and talking about nookie and kids eat it up. Same thing with Adam Sandler movies, shit quality, but kids fucking love it for some reason.

[@RubbinRobbin]

He knew how to draw, just didn't care to learn everything their was about anatomy. He had a style and he was with McFarlane who you can see inspiration in some of his panels. He also created deadpool, interesting designs, experimentation, and mistakes come from Liefeld but to not a lot of people can do what he does at the time it takes him to do it.

[@coldfeet1000]

Round "He also created Deadpool..." Came on! Great shit! People talk about deadpool like he was Batman, but no, its just a miserable copy of deathstroke...

[@RubbinRobbin]

Luis Fernando Barbieri AND Spawn is a miserable copy of Spider-Man and ghost rider but we don’t give liefeld hate because he’s an artistic legend? Rob like Todd knew what was cool to draw, these were superheros after all.

[@gamecubekidd]

good stuff man I subscribed! really surprised you don't have more subs. keep up the good work!

[@ComicTropes]

Thanks for the support. I'll keep trying to put out content and try new things.

[@Tirebay2]

I am a Rob Liefeld fan, there was something very new and cool about his artwork. He also influenced a lot of artists like Matt Broom & Steve Platt. Rob was influenced by Art Adams & Barry Smith and probably Frank Frazetta. But until I watched this video, I thought his only trope were the small feet. Keep up the good work, I'll keep watching .

[@coledavidson5630]

Crazy how consistent this channel has been since this early on. Started strong and got even stronger along the way

[@ExMachina70]

Robert Liefeld always makes bands around the wrist. Why? Because he has no idea what to do.

[@dak4303]

Late comment, but thumbs up for the classic Iron Chef reference alone. Thanks for your work, Chris

[@TheLoboFairchild]

I subscribed for two reasons, reason one, you seem like a good and decent human being, and reason two, you didn't jump on the anti Rob Liefield bandwagon, it gets tiresome hearing people constantly bitching about the guy, personally I enjoy his art, I am aware it's not the best artwork, but I grew up reading comics in the early 90's, so the likes of Liefield, MacFarlane, Jim Lee, etc will always have a special place in my heart. When I was a young child around the age of 7 I always tried to emulate Liefield's work, I was one of them heavy metal, extreme, idiotic kids, so that style of artwork just appealed to me. Obviously now that I'm a grown man, my tastes have changed and evolved, but without the likes of Liefield I would have never been as passionate about comic books as I am today.

[@ComicTropes]

Yes! That's exactly how I feel. When I was a teenager I loved this stuff and ate it up. So I'm never going to hate it. My tastes have evolved and I will critique comics but that's because otherwise there's nothing to say. No hate for any of the Image guys and I still admire several of them quite a bit.

[@TheLoboFairchild]

I actually managed to get the entire first volume of Youngblood recently, and sure it's not the best comic, but I enjoyed it for what it was, to me Youngblood is the comic equivalent of a B movie, you know the movie is bad, but you enjoy it because of how bad it is. I'm now trying to hunt down the rest of Liefield's back log, I got the first issue of Bloodstrike too, just because it was the 'Rub the Blood' issue. I think the problem with Liefield when it comes to certain comic fans is, they want to look like they have a superior taste to everyone else, but at the end of the day comics are made with the intention of entertaining people, and like life itself, they should not be taken too seriously. Have you ever read any Chaos! Comics, like Evil Ernie or Lady Death? You could actually do a trope video for Brian Pullido's works. I remember discovering Evil Ernie, it was the first horror comic to give me chills.

[@JBob08]

LoboDeSade well said. As I kid, this is exactly what I remembered comics being. Everything from comics to comic cards. I know I used to try to draw his Deadpool and wolverine. Considering I was still learning to draw, I think I probably loved not having to deal with feet!

[@dlvnmedia]

I just want to add I was probably 15 or so when he was on New Mutants and X Force and he did a small comic con in San Mateo just south of San Francisco and he was so generous with his time and patient with what was basically an over excited hyper kid. I will never hate on him for his ability to not only laugh at himself but just to share in a kids love of comics. Yeah, I definitely grew out of the style but I still hold him on very high regards. I kind of wish guys like you lived around me so I had people to enjoy the bad old days of the 90s with at times.

[@TCMECH79]

Rob Liefield is the reason most of us tried to make comic books