“Coming Home To Roost!” Business Secretary ADMITS Electric Vehicle Targets Not Working

[@paultwyman7821]

It's all bollocks, anything Miliband is involved in!!!!!

[@Duchess_in_Windsor]

He is making money out of this crap 🤔🤔

[@itsdalton]

When Nige get's into office in 4 years, we need to go after these traitors and bankrupt them into oblivion, remove all of their hidden wealth, and imprison them for what they have done

[@eddewhurst7662]

It was a Tory policy, nothing to do with Labour!

[@itsdalton]

Get these muppets out of office immediately. The next government will spend 4 years reverting all of this nonsense... We need to clean house completely, sack all of those in the highest positions in the civil service, and appoint people who are on board with the COUNTRIES agenda

[@frasermitchell9183]

Just remember that it was the Conservatives who put all this EV nonsense into place.

[@SEPK09]

Labour are as blind as moles.

[@tonywoodhouse6988]

They all are. Only Reform seems to have any common sense.

[@eddewhurst7662]

This was a Tory policy, stop blaming Labour.

[@exlabourbrexiteer4721]

@@eddewhurst7662 They are both to blame as they are wef puppets - or should that be muppets.

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

Labour isn't working.

[@jenniferbarry5887]

Most people, including sensible children, realise when they are making/ have made a mistake and change tack...............the exception to this is this Labour government.

[@keegan773]

How many £millions have been wasted before they realise what they were told by sensible people years ago.

[@colinaldridge259]

I won't purchase ANY EV, no matter where they are built. It doesn't matter what governments and manufacturers want, no EVs for me.

[@RobMatton-c8g]

SIGN THE PETITION - TIME FOR KIER TO PACK HIS BAGS AND GO........

[@kevingreen8581]

So Milliband's policy is causing UK job losses in the car industry so that we will have to support Chinese car workers by being forced to buy Chinese EV cars.

[@michaeld5888]

The problem is whilst politicians admit something is not working they invariably follow on with stating their determination to carry on regardless.

[@thevolthead]

I was 'pushed' the EV route as I am a company car driver and the BIK tax was pretty much zero. And I have to say, I really like it. 5 years, 70,000 miles, 650 mile round trips to Cornwall on holiday, never once had an issue. Did a 320 mile round trip all motorway in February without needing to stop and charge. 400 BHP, instant acceleration, 4WD. Quite good fun too. Should we force everyone to get an EV? Nope. Will EV's cure "climate change"? Nope. Are EV's for everyone? Nope. Do I genuinely prefer driving an EV everyday as opposed to a petrol? Yep! And I am a National Sales Manager, travel is a necessity for my job.

[@nottmfunguy]

It should always be a choice what car people want to drive, not that of a woke politician. I will always stick with diesel and petrol, I have a large 4x4 with a 67 litre tank, which i get 615 miles of range from a very efficient Euro 6 diesel engine. But my wife and i have horses and a few breeding sheep, so towing a 2/3 ton load is easy and I must say with little impact on range, especially on main roads. We also live in Cumbria so very hilly and remote and its fairly cold up here, a lot of the time 😁.

[@zitzong]

Got no interest in driving a battery powered car 😂😂😂

[@garyoneill545]

It's a wealth shift.These mps need auditing hope elon musk puts there activity's on his platform

[@johncolley3317]

How far do you go back with auditing MP's it's been going on now for years.

[@davidanderson7138]

you must be insane to buy an EV!

[@Hitstirrer]

Yes - I'm insane to be driving at 2p per mile using an overnight EV electric tariff. I should be like you and happy to pay at least 15p per mile at a minimum buying petrol/diesel. My car has a range of 285 miles. When and if I drive beyond that on a trip I have to resort to buying public electric which costs the same per mile as your petrol car. Oh dear. You are right. I must be insane to buy fuel at the same price you pay all the time.

[@Tom-dt4ic]

@@Hitstirrer I too am insane! My Model Y is the best car I've ever owned. And by a lot. I should surely be committed to some sort of psychiatric hospital. I'll even drive myself, for much less money, and much quieter and with no pollution to not upset my fellow loonies.

[@rayjones9231]

Yes I’m mad to pay £5 for almost 300 miles

[@patrickfarrell4751]

There is no doubt that EVs have a place in the transport infrastructure There are many many people out there that do low daily/weekly mileage who could benefit from them There are people who live in the suburbs and countryside that have off road parking and could easily accommodate a chargepoint We could easily get to 30% of cars being EV if it was targeted and incentivised to those who would benefit or easily make the transition It is the nut/sledgehammer approach that is causing the issues in the main

[@Tom-dt4ic]

​@@patrickfarrell4751 I can't speak for other EV's, but believe me, I find my Model Y far and away better for both in town and long distance travel. It seems like a bit of a left handed insult to say that EV's are good for driving around town, when most are brilliant for short AND long distance travel. I have 320 miles of range, so I can go about 280 miles without stopping and still have a decent margin for safety. And for me 280 miles takes over four hours, and that's quite enough before needing a twenty minute break. Perhaps other EV's, especially non-Tesla EV's, with less range might be a little harder to road trip. But not much. And that's getting better all the time as battery technology advances. And the Tesla charging network is now open to more and more non-Tesla cars as well. EV’s just have too many advantages over ICE cars for all but the most extreme use cases.

[@oldshiny3012]

wouldn't have a Chinese car if they were handing them out for free, i value my life more then anything

[@stevem7508]

I have no desire to buy a stupid EV ever

[@Duchess_in_Windsor]

Electric car fires are not easy to put out either 🤔🤔🤔

[@Jonathanedwardguadalupe-e3h]

I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison, where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 weekly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!🇺🇲❣️♥️❤️

[@Isabel-ko6hn]

How do you make so much please??🙏🙏 This might be an opportunity given by God to help solve all my problems!!!!

[@Jonathanedwardguadalupe-e3h]

I raised 75k and Grace Christina Elizabeth is to be thanked. I got my self my dream car 🚗 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through her. Grace Christina Elizabeth is the kind of person one needs in his or her life! I got a home, a good wife, and a beautiful daughter. Note!:: this is not a promotion but me trying to make a point that no matter what happens, always have faith and keep living!!

[@Isabel-ko6hn]

I've always wanted to trade Crypto for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me although I have watched a lot of KZbin videos about it but I still find it hard to understand.

[@JakariFraserM.J]

Please who is this Mrs Grace Christina Elizabeth?.

[@GabrielRobles-lu4jt]

Hello from the Texas. I'm not in awe to find positive reviews about Mrs Grace Christina Elizabeth. I retired 2 years ago and got his referral from my kid who works in Finance. It's been a smooth ride since then.

[@DrawnInk1]

Also Trump is going to cancel favoured nation status to China so that will level up trading.

[@tokyosundeiru2006]

All these heavy EVs will be great for the roads!

[@Hitstirrer]

Check the weight of those 400,000 petrol and diesel Range Rovers that are registered in the UK, and have been driving around for decades. Almost all EVs are much smaller and lighter. A few are a similar weight of course. But nowhere near that Range Rover fleet size.

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

@@Hitstirreroverall weight of EVs is faarrr farrr kore than a few range rovers lol. How do you recycle the batteries anyway??

[@Hitstirrer]

@@user-ug8wx5er1w So you haven't bothered to check the facts then. Google would help - or ChatGPT. And batteries will now outlast the life of the tin bits of a car. At which time many batteries will go on to have a second life as home storage batteries. But, again, you can answer your own question by a bit of google research. Many articles out there to explain how batteries will eventually be recycled. You are posting lazy unresearched comments.

[@whitehart11]

@@user-ug8wx5er1w We export the batteries to be recycled

[@whitehart11]

So are petrol and diesel 4x4 and SUVs. All cars have become obese

[@paulclive3626]

So we're forced to still pay their stupid pet projects that nobody even wants? All of em need arrested for money laundering.

[@johncolley3317]

HS2 another ginormous washing machine.

[@mattanderson6672]

DEFUND THE GOVERNMENT, STOP PAYING TAX I'm Welsh and voting Reform Brilliant discussion Excellent Analysis Jon Thank you Sir I agree!! I love your work, and I always love listening to you Mike Thank you gentlemen well said!!! Love Talk TV No farmers, no food, simple!

[@andrewjackson8089]

Ed Milliband doesn’t even have an EV😮🤦‍♂️

[@venom6848]

EV’s are not a viable option. 🤔

[@Just..........33]

It is if like a lot of people drive 60 miles a day and can power up at home. But still very expensive

[@wayneharding6594]

@@Just..........33 I live in a terrace house and do not have access to a charging point like those with a drive way, so no it is not viable.

[@Hitstirrer]

@@wayneharding6594 An EV using public chargers costs approx the same as a car buying petrol and diesel, about 15p plus per mile. It can be recharged when out on the weekly shop trip while you shop. Perfectly viable - just not as convenient.

[@Baldnesz]

The market should decide. No need for governments to intervene in markets like this. The EVs are either bought by customers on their own merits or they are not. The government needs to be ready to legislate for cars that drive themselves which will result in fewer people wanting to own a car when they can get a taxi at 50% or less of current price.

[@jonboy9912]

Vauxhall electric vans are useless, they have a range of 70 miles but if you put a ladder on top it falls, if you put the heater on in cold weather you are warned that you have cut drastically your range - they are commercially unviable, hopeless I cannot afford to waste half the day charging these vans I;m staying with diesel. There is no other option - ask British Gas who bought hundreds of them 2 years ago and most of them have now been withdrawn. Wasted millions and you will cover the losses through higher prices!

[@lanzarotewhites]

Everybody should boycott electric cars and the argument will be shut down. Not efficient and harder to dispose of at the end of their life and will kill our car building economy.

[@simonBAGL]

Fyi, I did the math, we need to at least double the amount of electricity we currently produce if everyone drives an EV. It makes you question either intentions or intelligence

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

EVs are disastrous for the environment

[@reefermark5298]

Plus it cost a fortune to charge at the fast chargers...........

[@andrewjackson8089]

Damn right!!!! I got screwed nearly 90p/kw the other day🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@chooselife7882]

​@@andrewjackson8089 but you could have worked and made 100 times that by the time you lounged about waiting on your car charging 😅

[@andrewjackson8089]

@ true! Instead I bought an overpriced coffee and went to a motorway toilet and stood next to a man who looked like a s3x offender 🤦‍♂️

[@carlarthur4442]

Its bad enough trying to boil a kettle at certain times let alone a car .

[@andrewgrenville5330]

You should never try to boil a car.

[@martinarnott4058]

EV'S can boil water WHEN THEY CATCH FIRE 😊

[@stevem7508]

Try driving these stupid cars in winter and in extreme cold weather, just wait till the sun creates a CME that will destroy electric everywhere and it's bound to happen.

[@jasonbuksh2958]

Let the market decide - not the goverment. The goverment can give tax breaks - but they should NOT be over taxing the current viable means of transport and manufactuers. They are doing the same with boilers - its a disaster, you are killing and punishing the indusrty that are providing viable solutions - and jobs in the process.

[@BrianMartin-b6q]

People don’t want electric cars ! Look at some of the bus companies with electric busses but use diesel generators to charge them . Reselling electric cars is difficult because no one wants run down batteries that don’t hold the charge . Terrible idea. Hydrogen is the way ahead not electric.

[@roblloyd1879]

We don't need electric car targets, we want a rethink. Logically it would be sensible to have electric cars in cities with, perhaps a battery capacity of about 100miles and using safer batteries than Lithium. People living in the country or doing longer distances would retain petrol or diesel cars. Bit revolutionary for the current groupthink.

[@charleswatson7281]

Thousands of entrepreneurs and businesses left before this latest round of business taxes….this will only trigger another exodus. Growth and investment- not a hope

[@exlabourbrexiteer4721]

We've got a lovely supply of oil & gas that we could use for fuel to boost our economy but our useless Labour government arrogantly won't ditch their ridiculous net zero target rubbish.

[@Soulboy63]

Investment in renewables & EV is key . No government has invested enough in EV s , hence where we are . Manufacturing is of little interest to them Cheapest night rate in 5 p per KW , that means a typical ev with 60 kw motor , it costs £3 to fill up , 240 miles , 220 in winter , with a heat pump .. EV start from 5 k now . Change of you can charge from home . I just changed

[@kevinsenior8155]

I will NEVER buy an EV. They can get lost.

[@Wemdave]

If they could guarantee the battery for life it would make the second hand market stronger.

[@disband_thebbc5933]

What happened to free market capitalism? It's seems that it's disappeared and i think it's safe to say nearly every thing has gotten worse since.

[@bexhill8777]

wtf.. its that crap that got us riddled with dept, china never invaded and steal our production, the filthy capatilist in the city shut up shop and shifted production to exploit cheap china, fool

[@nicolamarchbank1846]

Doesn't mean they will do anything about it

[@derekwhyle1884]

Don’t forget to mention the effect of Brexit tariffs. These are Tory policies from some time back

[@maxthemagition]

Think about this, EVs are driven by rotating machines powered by electricity. Electricity is produced by rotating machines which produce electricity. (solar excluded) Logically the more EVs there are the more and bigger the need for rotating machines to produce the electricity. Not only that, but there is a need for bigger and more wires to connect the machines and the batteries required to store the electricity. You don't get anything for free, especially electricity. There are over 40 million cars in the UK these days. What size or how many rotating machines (electrical generators) are required to drive all the cars on the roads or charge up all the car batteries every day? That is an interesting question don’t you think?...... EVs are just leeching off the Electrical Grid. If they substantially increase in number the Grid will be overloaded soon.

[@deejay1169]

Ed Davey appears to be having a very public breakdown.

[@samright4661]

Simple fix put a 100% tariff on China for cars! Protect the UK car companies! . Tariff is the only language China will understand

[@Maljai]

I want to talk abiut heat pumps. A service on standard boiler is £65-£75..a servicd on hybrid is £169. Virtually wiping out anh saving I may make..

[@rogernewton7831]

The day hardened bank robbers choose an EV over 8 cylinder internal combustion engines as their goto getaway car, then I might consider looking at them. Never going to happen.

[@loosebolt]

😂lol! But all the cash is becoming digital... damn... in that case, as roger said, it ain't going to happen.lol😂

[@martinarnott4058]

EV'S ain't clean anyway so why are they forcing us to have them must be another reason .

[@chooselife7882]

remember when your phone battery dies...?.....100 times worse when your ev batterey dies... think on that..and your electricity bill

[@GrrMeister]

*Ying Tong Iddle I Po is Laughing his head off in CHIIIINa !*

[@cayminlast]

EVs have a use, but not as a complete replacement for ICE vehicles. Wealthy people should be required to buy at least two EVs for each family member, just to take the pressure off of the poor.

[@Wemdave]

Insurance will go up for us all as right offs with slight EV damage.

[@Gripper-ie2qg]

So the young guy whinges about cars being imported and not built in the UK, Now because he's probably just turned 18 he wouldn't know about the UKs car building history, we used to supply the world but badly built boring cars that were never reliable, Red Robbo and the unions crippling development and now we have almost no UK car building, sure we have Vauxhall - who build cars for people that don't like cars - they are all rubbish - pretty much everything we have in the UK is built abroad, people consider Ford to be British - Its American and UK cars are built in Germany, Spain and Europe generally.

[@Wemdave]

All small garages will go out of business as evs need specialist service and repair.

[@japfourme381]

We all could have told them that from day one!!

[@jonsnow6741]

V W is 190 billion in debt Mercedes 100 billion in debt how long can this go on !

[@ftsetradersteve2742]

Just think about this....The military vehicles will all still have to be internal combustion....There are no charging points on the battlefield so get that in your thick heads....Also batteries do not last long enough or have any where near enough range for commercial heavy goods vehicles....Miliband is off his head....

[@denzel270]

Volvo Motors says that the manufacturing process of its C40 Recharge electric coupe-SUV generates 70 percent more emissions than that of the ICE-powered XC40 counterpart. Electric cars are being used as a Trojan horse to push 'pay per mile' through. These electric vehicles are all registered with the DVLA and have a reg plate. They could be taxed. There is a reason we have broadband covering every inch of the country now. It is not for mobile phone and internet users, it is to allow them to watch everything we do - pay per mile.

[@Baldnesz]

Tesla are the gold standard for EVs (or more correctly these days, the Bitcoin Standard) ..Why would a yobe take advice in EVs from Volvo ? ICE manufacturers can't build cost effective EVs.

[@hholton7245]

In politics stupidity is not a handicap - Napoleon Bonaparte

[@terryjacob8169]

Jonathon Reynolds: another Labour ponce we'd be well rid of.

[@DavidPlayfair]

It's pretty obvious Mike has never owned an EV or he'd know this is all anti-EV misinformation, in fact.

[@russellwilliams1163]

Satan is the father of lies but Miliband will get personally very rich on those lies

[@mrm.5787]

Teslas and Superchargers! Just saying…..

[@whitehart11]

Heavy duty functions eg Heater, air con do drain the battery but often other low power functions run off an auxiliary 12v battery

[@martynreeves7952]

Always a v8

[@rogerhudson9732]

Time for Starmer to reshuffle the government, I know it's early, but Miliband and Reeves must be sacked, sent to the back benches not just demoted.

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

Labour must be sacked.

[@andrewgrenville5330]

Seems to me that would be like juggling turds.

[@Gripper-ie2qg]

Another non EV owner thinking logically but reaching a wrong or irrelevant conclusion. Switch anything on in an EV and its draining the battery - now whilst that's true the capacity of the battery is so large that the drain is almost irrelevant - It would be like stating that a fuel tanks evaporation when standing will reduce the range, or starting an ICE when cold consumes a lot more fuel until warmed up and therefore reduced range - It does indeed do this but its so small to not be an issue. All electrical systems on an EV (apart from the heater) is a miniscule amount of watts. The headlights are around 20watts each, tail and brake lights, indicator etc 5 watts each, the computer and screen around 200 watts. Just look at facts - 300 miles with something like the Model 3 - in the cold and with lights and heater on its probably going to reduce to 270 miles - but, exactly the same thing happens with ICE - run in the cold, heater and lights on then the alternator has to generate lots of power - to do that it makes turning the drive pully a lot harder - so the engine has a lot more drag and uses more fuel and a percentage of the available power to generate that electrical energy - but no one ever notices. With EVs the media and many owners worry carrying their sandwiches affects the range - its all rather stupid. Chargers are absolutely everywhere its just they aren't quite so prominent as a filling station, but all supermarkets, McDonalds, Motorway services etc all have them, plus Tesla have dedicated superchargers - and the cars direct you to one if your running low on charge. Now fatties - like yourself - you always manage to find food - well where there is food there is a charger very close by. Your talking out of your backside, why not try one, as an experiment, then return after three months and tell us all how crap they are - guaranteed you will love an EV and find the rhetoric is comply untrue.

[@russellwilliams1163]

I would like to know how many millions of pounds will go into Miliband bank account when he does all this

[@Beauloqs]

'i cannot drive....'😂😂

[@JM00-v9c]

🌈 ❄️😱

[@DebbieScott-fg5wu]

😂😂😂😂

[@dazt66]

The you talk to must be blind, I drive an EV and have no trouble whatsoever in diving 200 miles in my car. I’m finding a charging point at a service station.

[@wearsider]

Hydrogen vehicles could save jobs and the car industry with the engines being modified.

[@Baldnesz]

Getting a Tesla factory in UK would create modern hi tech jobs.

[@wearsider]

@@Baldnesz Not if lithium is starting to become scarce and according to BMI it will be as soon as 2025. Hydrogen cars are also E.Vs but produce the electric on board the car.

[@wearsider]

@@Baldnesz The UK wouldn't need new tech jobs, using hydrogen vehicles would only need to be modified. We already have trains and buses, ships running on hydrogen.

[@DarrenSpill]

Love you Mike but this is a load of nonsense I’ve had an EV for 4 years and my wife swapped her petrol car for an EV this year. I agree nobody should be forced to buy an EV if the don’t want one however, IMO transition has already gone past the point of no return. I believe that in 2025, we will see the legacy car manufacturers in real trouble. VW already are in trouble in Germany and China and our closing factories for the first time. 2025 will be the pivotal year, mark my words. people can’t see it at the moment, but it’s all over for petrol. I love your show Mike, it’s one of my favourite radio stations to listen to but I think you are wrong on this one. bless you

[@Andrew-q2c6d]

The rest of the UK clearly disagrees with you. EV sales are going nowhere. You clearly don't get it

[@OleGitRule]

Nonsense - the battery does go down but not greatly, we can do 150 for £5 all local miles, its a no brainer with home charging. Not great for distance, to much misinformation around electric cars.

[@brundelfly1]

The problem is not with individual usage cases. I'm EV's suit some people very well. The major misinformation is the pure fiction that EV usage can or should be scaled up to incorporate 80% of new vehicles in the next 5 years.

[@Andrew-q2c6d]

No good for any journeys out of town then. So diesel is far superior.

[@Soulboy63]

Tomato do a 5 p night rate It costs £3 to charge Tesla. .220 - 250 miles with heat pump

[@RussellAshworth]

Thats cause EVs dont work they dont do what the maker say they do they have no range and charging cost more than diesel that if you can find a charging piont that works plus you have to pay to park the car so you can then charge it , the life or the batteries is only around 7years if you to replace the batteries itll cost between £10.000 to £20.000 most people dont charge at home because they live in flats or terraced homes and theres no on street charging plus the energy companies would just rip you off like they doing now so electric car just a load of BS and they are not green thats BS too the only way you can get anywhere near green is through hydogen powered which you can generate by producing hydro generation coupled with solar and wind generation

[@Hitstirrer]

Most EVs charge overnight when the power supply is not a problem because all the daytime use slows down. In fact the grid has a problem with that over supply and has always had to try to get rid of it by offering tariffs like 'economy 7' for the old storage heaters. Now they offer cheap EV charge tariffs simply because they have a glut overnight. We have the same ability to power the grid 24/7 but at present that peak is only really needed during the day. They would love to be able to use that peak day and night as it would avoid having to close down some generators at midnight and then start again at 6am.

[@oldshiny3012]

not everyone in this country has a nice little cosy little garage or driveway to take advantage of cheap tariff electricity but hey lets ignore that and carry on regardless

[@Hitstirrer]

@@oldshiny3012 No - it's about a 70/30 split. With/without drives. Not ignored. Acknowledged. And if people always charge in public the cost is almost identical per mile to buying liquid fuel. Not ideal. But an EV driver will be driving a better car without any pollution at the tailpipe.

[@oldshiny3012]

@@Hitstirrer oh by the way those cheap tariffs won't be very cheap when the night time demand increases thats for dam sure

[@Hitstirrer]

@@oldshiny3012 Perhaps in ten years' time when the EV fleet is much larger. But that's no reason to not take advantage of 2p per mile right now. Of course, you can carry on buying petrol at 15p per mile plus if you want. Your choice.

[@brundelfly1]

You're speaking purely from a current day position. The Government targets one and a half million new EV's sold per year, every year by 2030. With each requiring between 7KW and 22KW charging. Most households don't use that amount of electricity in an entire day at present. Do you genuinely think we'll have the generating capacity or grid infrastructure by then to cope with that level of increase in demand (even without the net zero push)? I think your off-peak headroom will go away in fairly short order.

[@JM00-v9c]

how's he a consumer, he can't even drive.

[@DebbieScott-fg5wu]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-rf9me7xm1w]

That explains a lot !

[@figotheone]

Compare it to MPG , a modern engine will do 30-40 miles around town whilst covering that same distance in an electric car costs 3 times more to charge….

[@anthdci]

This is exactly the problem. Mike hasn’t got a clue what he’s talking about and he’s talking to someone who doesn’t even drive who is from the right wing spectator. This is the worst of the media.

[@Andrew-q2c6d]

More utter clueless nonsense

[@Patchow]

Imagine being an advocate for filthy diesel and petrol cars poisoning our children 😂

[@zitzong]

Imagine being an advocate for electric cars and their batteries, which both do more harm for the environment upfront than gas powered cars and that release loads of toxic gases when they go into thermal runaway 🤡

[@martinarnott4058]

Lithium mines best not go there about them 😮

[@robtheplod]

Im more worried about what people feed their kids.... meat free sausages etc... dont they know whats in them????

[@JPB-zu6wd]

Miliband the Nasal speaking brat who is the most boring ponce on the planet He is a Person of no tactical importance (PONTI)

[@mattjosh69]

The reason TELSA is the best selling are in the world is because Elon makes better and safer cars the petrol cars. But I don’t think people should be made to buy an electric car, legacy car manufacturers don’t want to make electric cars and never have. Because they can’t make them cheap enough to compete with TELSA. So they’re stuck if with factory’s that would need to completely retool and the costs to compete will destroy them. So we get all the propaganda that electric cars are no good and they cost to much. 🤷🏻‍♂️ but just like the majority of people don’t do any fact checking, there happy to just keep pushing the same old narrative.🤷🏻‍♂️ Do better Talk Tv

[@rayjones9231]

I’ve driven over 22000 miles all over the UK, NO PROBLEMS!!

[@bumberClart1000]

Petrol and diesel are dinosaurs

[@disband_thebbc5933]

😂

[@X5493-c7p]

I’ll keep driving my diesel for the next two to three years then buy a Tesla CyberCab which will drive itself and when I don’t need to use it I’ll add it to the RoboTaxi fleet to earn money and I’ll need multiple income streams as this lot in charge will most likely means test the SP and I won’t be able to retire if I don’t have alternative sources of income.

[@Andrew-q2c6d]

Utter nonsense. Both are superior to EVs which is why 90% of cars aren't EV.

[@martinarnott4058]

Ice cars have been going for over 100 years still brilliant.

[@bumberClart1000]

@@X5493-c7p that’s a great idea. 💡

[@martinarnott4058]

If you want an electric car go and buy one if you want a petrol or diesel car go and buy one half the problem is there TRYING to force you to buy an electric car which aren't clean due to LITHIUM BATTERY manufacturing end of .

[@H8XME]

Labour is draining everyone’s batteries!!!! 🪫