Commander Clash: Strixhaven Commanders | S10 E13

Adrix and Nev, Twincasters vs. Rionya, Fire Dancer vs. Hofri Ghostforge vs. Killian, Ink Duelist
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[@1rilis]

Seth had me dying this episode, "mm Tomer, looks like you have the highest life total"

[@StevoM08]

Crim, Tomer, and Seth: All trying to do normal things. Richard: 🎶HIIIIHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🎶

[@Mark.Twain007]

I broke at "mmm Tomer, I think you have the highest life total"

[@Beeblegnome]

Probably the best thing said in the whole season so far!

[@imapaincake2305]

they gotta make it a short!

[@smarzu6872]

The most bad ass Seth play I have ever seen.

[@LionWithShades]

Definitely the next Commander Clash moment!!

[@joshuaritter9747]

Same it was so great

[@Zentenski]

Seth anytime he sees a new card: "Is this a Panharmonicon?"

[@TeaHauss]

So now we need look-alike week Seth is Hans Crim is Killian Richard is Ghen Tomer is Kaldra

[@Kryptnyt]

Tomer = Tomik

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

@@Kryptnyt Lol damn, you’re right

[@michaelcho6484]

please let this be a thing. i honestly think this would be hilarious

[@solDelta]

Tomer: holds Seth hostage, forces him to make a deal and break one with Crim, then gets salty about the malicious compliance also Tomer: "How am I the bad guy?"

[@RPGFanboy14]

I will say Seth made that deal in haste without any kind of indication of what was being done. And then there was a progenitor e-wit. Not saying what Tomer did was right in the spirit of the politics, but I can understand being salty about the constant killing of his commander which effectively locked him out of the game. But such is the risk of Voltron without hexproof lol

[@Radiodad]

Tomer was absolutely the villain this game. He pitted everyone against each other all game.

[@ODIRGO]

@@Radiodad only this game?

[@Radiodad]

@@ODIRGO hahahah nah I think tomer loves being the arch enemy. It's also hilarious how often seth pits tomer and crim against each other. Richard just sits quiet and stays out of it until he combos off hahaha

[@solDelta]

@@RPGFanboy14 I mean I do get feeling bad about getting blown out by Treason/sac when he had a hand full of indestructible effects, but I think Tomer tends to go for gunboat diplomacy rather than, uh, actual diplomacy, and he usually loses for it. XD like, holding the threat of removing a key piece of someone's board over their head unless they do what you tell them has the potential to be a mini-Mindslaver, but it also draws animosity from that player AND the players who got screwed by that play. Compare that to Richard. He blocked with his commander because it was going to die anyway, so it cost him literally nothing (hell, it was a net positive of not taking damage to face) and by letting Seth get the extra value of removing Killian he ingratiated himself with Seth and Crim, delayed Killian getting buffed, and positioned Tomer as the archenemy. That was clever diplomacy, and it meant the rest of the table was too busy trying to set up again to prevent him from going off with his jank-ass Dwarf Storm. (Which, as a side note, might be my favorite Richard deck this season. We stan Richard here)

[@andrewn8260]

Micheal Jordan plays basketball... Charlie Manson kills people... Richard plays commander clash

[@Cookie_Nova]

Crim plays Mana Drain

[@BlackPrince1330]

I appreciate Tomer using the Silverquill basics for his deck

[@Ruebe81]

Dowsing dagger is present in commander clash. The plants are already there, lurking behind Tomer.

[@ParfaxGaming]

Tomer complaining after holding seth hostage is too funny.

[@AxillaryPower2]

"I have only lands" -Crim, while looking at the Fierce Guardianship in his hand.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Lol I was like “Is he really lying that blatantly?”

[@LadyMorrigan]

I think at this no point no one trusts him when he says "I have ONLY LANDS" lol, its like the boy who cried wolf

[@Zephyri0n]

Oh no, one counter spell amongst 6 lands.. Yes, the havoc he can wreck. Such fierce, many tremble.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

@@Zephyri0n He stressed “only” _really_ hard lol

[@russellcurtis5703]

I just thought of a new Idea maybe the next shirt or playmat could be scoops with an abacus saying abacus remembers.

[@ms.sysbit5511]

“Where’s my abacus?”

[@rosavanopheusden5211]

Would love a podcast episode on deals, anything from "we're friends, right?" to more specific situations

[@ironpage]

That Seth play and the glorious ending of this game. Great game.

[@freya002YT]

Yep

[@douglassmith8069]

1:21:30 tomer: I cant play the game right now. Crim (who has been stuck on 5 lands the entire game with no ramp and has been using mana drain to not fall behind): 'silently exists'

[@stronggreenflame]

I'm sensing a new commander moments coming soon. "Mdfc suck" board destroyed

[@douglassmith8069]

Tomer: "how dare you play mana drain that gives you a mana boost one time equal to the cmc of the countered spell" Also tomer: plays a commander that gives him mana reduction constantly Tomer again: I dont know why everyone is looking at me to have targeted removal "stares in Killian"

[@PikachaoArt]

Not too mention every time he said that he had at least two answers in hand.

[@VinegarAndSaltedFries]

Seth kills me. You are all the best. I really hope he orders an Abacus

[@maxbremer5826]

Really sweet deck Rchard! Who needs Dragonstorm when you could build Dwarfstorm instead.

[@brningpyre]

Alpha Authority, Curator's Ward, and Starlit Mantle are auras that grant hexproof, but they're only in the U/G. Killian would be amazing if he had Partner.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Secret commander time?

[@MWorl91]

Seth DESTROYED Tomer. It was brutal. I couldn’t help but laugh. Sorry Tomer

[@DimbyHero]

Tons of fun! I loved the play styles on display. Thank for always having fun no matter the outcome!

[@streiifi]

seth stealing tomers board was sick hes so good at trolling

[@ParfaxGaming]

Tomer is always the player that tries to take the table hostage

[@MacFlurry13]

Tomer! Love watching Commander Clash and love watching your streams! But I wish you’d play different decks for CC than on stream cause you’ve been doing that a lot lately 😂 I love watching you play and would love to see more decks from ya!

[@1rilis]

Agreed. I also wish he would play slightly to moderately more powerful decks, it feels like he is always playing some gimpy deck. Meanwhile Richard is wrecking with birds and dwarf storm type decks every episode.

[@TeaRanosaur]

For what its worth, even ignoring its spite value, an abacus is a very valid way of tracking life total. It gives you room for tons of life gain and extra space to track commander damage. I actually use one because when i play spike feeder in my lathiel deck I don't want to have to buy out the continent's supply of dice.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Wait, what are you talking about? It seems like you left out a very important word in that first sentence because I can’t tell what you’re referring to

[@TeaRanosaur]

@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai Oh you're right, my bad

[@revenant2139]

Pretty much every commander clash game with these 4. Seth and Crim team up on Tomer. Tome antagonizes everyone and is confused how he is the villain, then Richard Wins.

[@Karmic_Guide]

I mean... one counterspell against three player's each turn isn't really locking you out of the game.

[@regail7143]

but allowing someone to recur mana drain every turn is stupid all the same

[@SilverKarlov]

It is if no one plays into it.

[@DavyMcWavy]

Richard, “Price of Glory” is one of my fav mono red cards. So salty haha good call.

[@mr.warzone6340]

Great job on putting tomer in his place with his obsession with draw cards I'm glad to see him getting owned

[@thundahorseful]

I love how Crim is a control player that does not like when he gets targeted for playing the trolliest of cards...

[@Spaced92]

Tbf their threat assessment was way off in this one. Richard clearly demonstrated the capability to one shot people and no one seemed to care about it despite only Crim having answers.

[@da_poolo]

Return the asian avenger to the command zone 🤣😂🤣

[@alexanderszewc9448]

It's effectively a removal spell. By putting him in his own command zone, he cannot do anything, thus losing.

[@mr.warzone6340]

Thank you Richard for playing red💪

[@monkeygame7]

Richard must have been thinking so hard about how to storm off the most that he forgot how mtgo worked lol

[@hectordejesus9194]

Commander Clash Moment #16 Put theasianavenger into your commander zone?

[@gothco]

Tomer: "I NEED MY COMMANDER IN PLAY TO DO ANYTHING". Me (after listening the the commander clash podcast on power level charts): guess you shouldn't build "2" decks, Tomer.

[@mariofisher6340]

crim looking like the fun police coming to pull you over

[@BloodLegaZ]

Seth: "If you don't attack me Killian won't die" Me seeing it has totem armor from the enchantment: "Oh Seth you sneaky little jerk"

[@moontorment]

Crim rocking the joy con eyebrows

[@christianmiller4422]

And a color scheme he doesnt normally play

[@AgonalRhythm]

Visiting strixhaven again also just means more mystical archive cards, which is exciting for historic and reprint value (plus the art)

[@av110386]

"Rionya Rionya, sorry that y is throwing my off" Rioña there fixed it!

[@aarong2606]

I have never seen a group use politics and get upset over literally every point of dmg. Straight up 2 minute conversations over 1/1's

[@frankomancer]

I can't believe how rarely I see people mention that!!! The amount of time they waste whining about getting hit by random dorks has always been my least favorite thing about Commander Clash.

[@freehoppernz9058]

I don't think they're actually that invested, just joking around.

[@aarong2606]

@@freehoppernz9058 see I could understand that but Im pretty sure most people dont find it funny. Whining is annoying in cmdr lol

[@kingfuzzy2]

@@aarong2606 in my experience it's way more hypocritical than whiny.

[@BAM_Deadstroke]

This has to be a commander clash moment. HAS to

[@arghanothername]

Mana Drain really was limited by mana burn back in the day. It was still insanely powerful, but it could be a real issue in the mid to late game if your hand was starting to empty. The prevalence of card draw in today’s world means that mana burn likely wouldn’t be a big a deal today with mana drain.

[@sethchapman1425]

So bring back mana burn right. I miss mana burn. But I am old school.

[@arghanothername]

@@sethchapman1425 Me too. I started playing right as Legends came out, and I think it was a really interesting part of the game.

[@sethchapman1425]

@@arghanothername Made you think. Most of these combos that use mana nowadays would be harder to do in my personal opinion.

[@arghanothername]

@@sethchapman1425 Maybe. I guess it depends on whether you can win the same turn you build the massive mana pool. That way the game is over before the burn becomes an issue. Still, it’s a cool limitation, and to me it’s the limitations on you game plan that make the game interesting.

[@Spaced92]

@@sethchapman1425 I thought it was a cool and flavourful mechanic, I don't really get why they got rid of it. The cost of complexity thing was BS, they introduced Planeswalkers after and no new player ever understands Planeswalkers.

[@stevenh4314]

There are green auras that give hexproof like canopy cover and alpha authority. technically canopy cover isn't hexproof but it reads as it as long as it's on one of your creatures

[@jameshayes-barber9340]

Crim, next time you run field of the dead you can mix snow and non snow basics to up the number of land names

[@Jesin00]

50:38 Tomer needs to read "Alpha Authority" and "Curator's Ward". They're not in his colors for this episode, but they do exist.

[@silentsnake96]

Idk a deals a deal the board state didn’t really change that much the only difference was Richard was in the lead and crim was dying and was in a worse position then before. then you broke the deal putting him in a even worse position. He didn’t hold up mana drain for you because he had the deal with you, so it kinda feels like you tricked him and took all the benefits of the without any negatives of the deal. I think when you make a deal you have to take the good with the bad and if you can’t don’t make the deal or you get feel bad moments and it sucks. If I was crim I would never make deal with you again unless it involved you doing something first

[@gustavosolano4615]

I check the merchandise but question that plushie on Richard chair is it not available

[@CatDadSeven]

Damn Richard way to put Tomer on blast, and here I was thinking Tomer got the pointing right this time.

[@PalPlays]

Tomer coming in strong with the Silverquill politics. Seal of Cleansing/Primordium are the best rattlesnake cards!

[@Skywarp2099]

Hey Tomer, there ARE auras that grant Hexproof, but they are not in WB: Alpha Authority, Curator's Ward, (pseudo HP) Canopy Cover, Shielding Plax, Anti-Magic Aura. The best thing you can do to simulate HP in WB is Spectra Ward, but after you apply it to the enchanted creature THAT'S IT.

[@MakeVarahHappen]

If Tomer points in every direction he's still wrong he's just also not wrong.

[@peterhardiman7333]

Ondu inversion is still good Tomer...just thought I'd let u know nothing has changed since last week lol

[@joshuawarman4498]

Seth immediately broke his deal with Tomer after Tomer made tendershoot indestructible. He did agree not to kill timers board.

[@Stupidexport]

But is it still killing Tomer's board if Seth controlled it?

[@Vininn126]

I can always count on Tomer to complain about Crim's counterspells or i guess about anything that happens :p

[@golgariguy]

Dwarf Storm!!! I'm dying

[@Bleuchz]

"Is that really the lesson you learned" Dying.

[@7someone]

There is a aura Shielding Plax but it's not in Tomers colors.

[@TH3L3M0N]

Toner getting salty is getting tiring

[@thibaultlion9952]

Sweetest win ever 😍😍

[@dpscribe]

Are we ever going to see Richard owner of MTGGoldfish garage filled with merchandise?

[@alpturan7897]

"Return the asianavenger to the command zone?" lol

[@hernandezespinosaalvaredua7663]

Is Crim a secretly Simic Tsundere ?

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

Wow crim, those eyebrows look fantastic

[@bobm1476]

I had to PAUSE! ZOOM! ENHANCE! to make sure it wasn't weird compression artifacting causing those colors. Lol. Is this the first appearance of the dyed eyebrows?

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

@@bobm1476 I think it is!

[@royalfishness1]

kinda bugs me when a player with a clearly threatening setup (mimic being E Wit) tries to argue its not a big deal. Comes across as kinda disingenuous. I loved Richard saying exactly "I accept the death of my commander, I know its a threat, Crim isnt admitting it about the Mimic"

[@JonathanHecht]

1:16:41 was that a modo fail or an Easter egg?

[@dragonmaster47]

Just a heads up, the article link in the description is for last week's episode instead of this ones

[@j0k3r271]

Really good episode

[@nedalton317]

I know it sounds bad but I switched from the lets be friends style to, "You threatened me, take the action, I'll kill your board." it's lees semantics focused.

[@elijahk9138]

"You shouldn't be friends with Simic players."

[@jamescampbell2353]

Where’s the lie though?

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

So if Tomer played Ondu Inversion over the gainland, he would have probably won. Seems like karma lol

[@andrea9342]

Even Modo acknowlegded Killian looks like Crim

[@aidennoir597]

People who whine that they can't do anything without their commander when you kill their commander should probably just build better decks. Not naming names, but I'm not referring to Richard, Seth, or Crim.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

I mean, normally I’d agree, but he’s playing voltron. Short of infect, there’s no way to make the deck work well without your commander.

[@aidennoir597]

@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai And there's nothing wrong with that, but you need to acknowledge that it's a downside of the deck you chose to run and that people play interaction and you can't be upset about it. I'm not saying don't play voltron, I'm saying don't whine about people playing the game.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

@@aidennoir597 Absolutely, it’s a downside of the deck. But it’s not a deck-building problem on his part. That was my point. There’s no way to “build a better deck” when you’re playing auras that would solve his problem, especially budget auras. Also, you can’t blame him for sulking about it. Getting shut out of a long game for a long time is frustrating and boring. You can temper your outward reactions, but not many people can just turn off the salt completely. His reaction wasn’t that bad. I’ve seen people get upset. He was just frustrated, and even then he was still laughing and cracking jokes with the table. The “whining” thing is mostly a gag that he’s always done (although this time it felt a bit more real), and it doesn’t bother the people he’s playing with, so 🤷‍♂️ Crim is just as bad about it, anyways.

[@aidennoir597]

@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai Eh, you're right, maybe I'm being too hard on him. I just get annoyed with the crew in general over how much they freak out over interaction or being attacked or other people just generally playing the game, but they do play it up and I like the other banter in general enough to not stop watching so maybe I should just let it go, lol.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

@@aidennoir597 Yeah, it’s just kind of the “KZbin thing” to play up reactions. If it were me in these episodes, I’d be shutting off my webcam after Crim did the Counterbalance/Top thing lol

[@MarcSiqueira]

I'm glad i finally saw seth playing Feldon, i have submited my mono red feldon list before but never got showcased, and i believe my deck is stronger than what seth was playing, it's a great deck but somehow to me the white on seth's deck didnt do much other than dilute the deck and take space of more important cards for the deck. PS: Richard as always did as good as expected! Never ceases to amaze me haha

[@jackiemorey6911]

crim, your eyebrows are two different colors, and they have won the "beast beard in mtg" award. I know they're not a beard, but they still won

[@natejablonski]

Against Seth and Vince? How?

[@DavyMcWavy]

@@natejablonski yeah, not a chance. They’re beautiful eyebrows but can not physically win a beard contest.

[@jackiemorey6911]

Easily. Crims eyebrows are the best beard in all of mtg, the jury is in

[@felixgunawan9336]

Love Richard play

[@t.j.hemphill7844]

Tomer's plant: *teleports behind you*

[@babassoonist557]

Why does Seth hate snarls? theyre better then guildgates, which tomer litterally played on his turn and seth said nothing. is it because Seth runs a billion non-basics so when he includes them they don't work?

[@Spaced92]

They are okay, the guildgates are just for budget. 90% of the time they pretty much work like fast lands, and if it's a turn 1 tap land then who really cares unless you play Aggro. Probably get too much hate for decks that aren't spikey.

[@stronggreenflame]

Is Seth's revenge in the middle there not a commander moment? It should be

[@MeriadocMyr]

1:52:30 if only the sejiri shelter could target other people's creatures, like a good protection spell.

[@Gingerbreadley]

Chrims black and white hair and red and blue eyebrows are killing me. What do we have to do to get him to dye it all green.

[@doingurfatha27]

Crim could have survived if seth activated before blockers and crim could have mimick vatted right?

[@DonovanPresents]

1:41:35 Timer not realizing his Commander has Menace...

[@Dorion37]

There is a hexproof aura, its green tho.... also one in blue.

[@RATZGobbler]

Why would anyone put Arcane signet in a mono color deck? Posturing?

[@Someone-lg6di]

Toner spell swindle is expensive mana drain

[@av110386]

Get Tomer another identical planter

[@AllegoryGar]

borospanoharmonhofri is the best deck name ever

[@josephkucharzyk1224]

Richard needs to be a ventriloquist

[@spencerpyszczynski3778]

I never see a deal as breakable. If anyone ever breaks a deal, I target the player out because it goes against the spirit of politics.

[@SuperPacMan1143]

As always Richard has the best deck and won!!

[@regail7143]

Tomer is so greedy and selfish....

[@jameshayes-barber9340]

1:42:05 why is Tomer ignoring all that glitters?

[@papaUrabrask]

Couldn't tomer have given that seven dwarves protection from red and then Rhionya's ability wouldnt have been able to target it?

[@RavebirdRock]

There are hexproof auras, just not in black white

[@Deris76]

Tomer is stuck in a loop where half the decks he plays end up being the one he didnt make (backseat brewing).... And I'm all for it

[@diegovazquez2405]

There should be a 4 way game prismatic piper edh

[@royalfishness1]

Tomer looses a LOT of his argument against Ondu Inversion by running gain lands......like seriously

[@MrInithra]

The gain lands are there because his deck is built to a $50 budget, and it would be difficult to do that if he started including shock lands. Just because gain lands are bad, that doesn't make ondu inversion good

[@jaimetorrente7378]

Nice chapter! Did you think about doing a Webcam chapter this web to showcase the cards that didn't make it into mtgo?