Commander VS S13E3: Skullbriar vs Niv-Mizzet vs Tuvasa vs Etrata [EDH]

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[@SCGCommander]

(Jeremy) Well, now that it has approval from Mrs. Noell: no-shave.org/member/JeremyNoell

[@porkthepink]

You got this man!!! can't wait!!

[@Gamerdad2008]

Pound sign 4 life

[@igniteaxiom]

so you don't like "Movemeber"

[@Bobal27]

You’re good.

[@BrowneePointz]

Suggestion: For No-Shave November, you all have to have a commander with a Beard.

[@corrosivecabal]

Would a deck with all art by Edward P. Beard Jr count?

[@kingfuzzy2]

Hopefully

[@federicozacchi6722]

Congratulations to john! Love the crew, love the show, wish you all nothing but the best for the future! #teamgreen

[@craigh9305]

@21:23 Stephen's lines of play never cease to amaze. He could have cast Thief of Sanity and Lightning Greaves precombat and attacked with the Etrata and the Thief.

[@ninjachico6771]

Am I the only one sad that the Niv-mizzet animation wasn't added in post?

[@megaman161]

59:37 The funniest Disallow :D Also, oh god that ending was amazing. 1:50:56 to see the magic.

[@omgitzducki]

14:47 game starts I'll be that guy

[@valnyr4678]

Doing god's work.

[@12Fakeaccount]

Papa B l e s s

[@mikeheilman6122]

You're the real MVP

[@d9_1056]

Its appreciated not here for deck techs

[@manaraider628]

Ducki Elquacko someone had to do it

[@imageispower20]

Not going to lie Director Kyle's deck was sick.

[@agent00puffball]

Yeah man, that combo was insanity.

[@chasebutler2665]

Do they not play their own decks

[@SamLomaxToE]

I'm only halfway through the episode but I'm pretty sure Jeremy has drawn all his lands already.

[@Sethgtb100]

How many times did my guy Stephen not shuffle after the Etrata trigger? #TeamGreen

[@Aang139]

Once, and they caught it

[@brianzilles784]

No, you still need to shuffle your deck even if Etrata goes to your command zone

[@Aang139]

Oh you right, I think he missed all of them. I read that as how many times they just missed the trigger to "shuffle" her away in general, and redirect to command zone. Which he did almost miss once. Sorry. I don't think there was any time where he knew enough of the top of his deck for missing the shuffle to really matter. But he did miss them

[@skiemontgomery8055]

LOVE this series so much so thank you for being so great: all of you. I write this befor diving into the video but I see that Jon is back, welcome back.

[@duckstuffer2152]

Ugh perfect episode! I'm working on decks built around 3 of the 4 featured Commanders. Thanks guys can't wait to see how this goes!!!

[@CyberNewType]

Loved this video. Especially the part where they touch on the fact that you could hardly tell that they were working with a budget restriction. After a summer of people falsely trying to prop up Brawl by claiming Commander was SOOO expensive, its good to prove the point that it doesn’t have to be. Two thumbs up.

[@fearanarchy]

Search for "mtg commander budget", there are entire channels based on that principal

[@matthewherrmann9526]

I know, right. Commander is SOOOOO EXPENSIVE that I just want to drop money on standard cards that rotate so that I can buy entirely new decks every two years.

[@zwc76]

Missed counter on Beastmaster Ascension at 1:29:00. Oh, the counter arrived at 1:30:32. Good job, Jeremy! :D

[@skeetsurfing]

Props to Jeremy for not only making a Rocky Horror reference but making a Rocky Horror callback reference.

[@cowboytsundere3013]

Subtle Hamilton reference from Jeremy around the hour and five minute mark. Raise a glass.

[@soldancer]

I caught that too. I would chalk it up as a coincidence, but Jeremy has worn Hamilton shirts before, so clearly he knows it's a reference.

[@PiroMunkie]

You guys drop these videos just as I'm about to go to bed here in South Korea... I want to watch... but I also have work tomorrow, lol.

[@sethlossiah4438]

Same!

[@thcdbz]

Literally laughed so hard at saurez saying stop trying to make fetch happen

[@bhesselbach4836]

That intro was a beautiful thing and the banter this week was fantastic. Also, as a big fan of the banter I can confirm that if you like the banter here you will indeed enjoy Think Twice.

[@somethingclever4456]

Holding onto that Banefire the entire game, that's some patience.

[@4wg368]

Finally Skullbriar my Boy!!!!

[@sethpeters7362]

When I saw Jon was playing Izzet, I knew he was going to win. The deck could've used more instants and sorceries, though.

[@mishkag1471]

Did I miss something? At 26:57, Skullbriar goes from 3 counters at 4 due to the Krasis evolve trigger. At 27:11, Justin attacks Stephen and inflicts 5 Skullbriar damage, but Skullbriar does not gain another counter.

[@voldemort008]

I noticed that myself.

[@GoodStarfish]

Justin “Who besmirched me most recently” Parnell Jonathan “think about the kids...I’ll shoot the kitten” Suarez Stephen “I need a blocker... I intend to attack” Green Jeremy “that says, draw a card, draw a card, draw a card” Noell

[@WealthyBig34]

Congrats on the baby John!!!! Great episode, the super burn was great ftw!!!!

[@charlessloan1963]

In the beginning of this one so far, gotta say, John, love the deck, wouldn't mind seeing it played with no price tag limits, and so far most interesting win condition has to be Stephens deck. Pure lulz

[@daddyb1100]

what a great ending! director kyle needs to build more decks!

[@shawnspidle2530]

Congrats on the new addition Jon & glad to see you back 😊

[@robertbrinker1769]

When Jeremy cast open the vaults he can't enchant Aegis cuz the 2 cards are entering at the same time so Aegis isn't a legal target.

[@doomofthedestiny8065]

They still have to resolve independently, he has priority, and choses the order they resolve.

[@robertbrinker1769]

@@doomofthedestiny8065 One of the four offical oracle rulings on the card states and I quote "An aura put onto the battlefield this way can't enchant an artifact or enchantment that's also being put onto the battlefield with Open the Vaults". So no. He does not. All of the permanents are returned at the same time, so they enter at the same time, so Aegis of the Gods is not a legally enchantable because it is not yet in play until Ancestral Mask is also in play already. They also dont at all go on the stack so they are at no point resolving. If they had to resolve that would imply you could counter individual artifacts and enchantments being returned by Open the Vaults. But they do not go on the stack so they at no point resolve. Priority has nothing to do with this, and even if it did no one has priority during a spell's resolution.

[@namename8004]

Yeah, they aren't being cast. They are being simultaneously being put on the battlefield. Therefore, Ancestral Mask could not have enchanted the Aegis. This comment needs more likes. It's a rather obscure situation, but people should still learn the nuances of auras if they don't already know them. Fun fact: Auras only have targets when cast. So if you blink a Pacifism, you can put it on a hexproof/shroud creature.

[@MegaAreosmith]

Congrats John

[@MWorl91]

Jon was on fire this episode. Congratulations on the baby.

[@hamishian0]

Great to see you back Jon!

[@killerkurez9233]

Im heeeeeere!! And before the time stamp guy.

[@WHITEKNIGHT95]

This video aged well. Niv-mizzet remains one of the stronger Commanders in 2020 and will continue to be an obnoxious card. Great video

[@jackpabich763]

Congrats on the baby, Jonathan!

[@eorgzangif5117]

Yay John back so soon great to see ya back Hope all is well

[@Gamerdad2008]

Thanks for the great content every week!

[@IsaacNK1]

8:00 Myth Unbound is insanely good in my Saffi Eriksdotter deck.

[@Svydnar]

Also insane in Ghalta, Primal Hunger with Food Chain.

[@roygbiv390]

Love the shirt Jeremy

[@Battleguild]

Justin and Stephen forgot about Kefnet's Monument's tap effect, Skullbriar shouldn't have been able to untap and attack for lethal that turn.

[@crayyonnyadrav4055]

I wanted to see a Tuvasa Deck in Action. Now that I have seen what it can do even on a Budget, I more so wanna build it.

[@xakuyer]

Nice commanders they got today !

[@ZanZerejin]

Commander VS and dinner. Can this wednesday get any better? :D

[@shanewerner7410]

Yavimaya Enchantress and Ancestral Mask count ALL enchantments in play not just Jeremy's enchantments. Justin always had at least 2 additional enchantments in play. It didn't matter this time, but you made the same mistake over and over.

[@aGoshDarnTravesty]

So at 30:00-ish when Justin gets Rebuked, he could have chosen to put Skullbriar back in the command zone to keep all the counters, right? Hand is just usually preferred because it's normally better.

[@UniverseDistorted]

Nope, it had Darksteel Mutation on it, therefore it did not have the ability "Counters remain on Skullbriar as it moves to any zone other than a player's hand or library." When it was moved out of the battlefield.

[@chrysmurphy3974]

No, the Darksteel Mutation meant Skullbriar had no text so didn't get to keep counters. Though, the Mutation should have gone back to Jeremy's hand as well - all permanents controlled to OWNERS hand.

[@SKrabbe91]

But Jeremy was the controller of the Mutation. The Mutation just enchanted a creature controlled by Rebuked Justin, right?

[@jacfac9969]

It's called Bant-chantments who calls is bantresses?!

[@theomniarch7405]

Bantments, surely.

[@deerclops8184]

keep up the good work boys #TeamGreen

[@Richthofen100]

51:06 has a hand with lands and draws more lands priceless xD

[@kingofrunescapepking]

I agree with Justin, Unspeakable Symbol is great, I had it in Atraxa before I changed it to Ramos

[@daneerickson8796]

Happy new father's episode!

[@maddenlost2121]

Stephen Green just became my favorite for being a Lakers fan! :)

[@swingrowers13]

CONGRATS JOHN

[@georgethekingiv]

Myth unbound is good with Pir and Toothy. Partners give you twice the value from it and the draw helps toothy's value.

[@craigh9305]

@40:10 Stephen - why cast Life's Finale the turn after Jon returned all of Justin's creatures to his hand?

[@Lunaraia]

Well, that smells like... *breathes deep* Victory

[@fakeplasticsoldier]

51:10 When you draw piles of cards and they're all lands

[@MrZoichi]

John, he may not have 4 arms, but are the ones he has ultra muscular?

[@soron703]

Haha nice ending Jon

[@Loxorius]

Watching this after Ikoria, can't help to think about how much better Skullbriar is with Ability Counters. Imagine the thing having permanent Hexproof, Flying, Lifelink and Menace...

[@meerkatninja159]

Someone needs to explain why he didn’t shuffle etrata/put back to command zone after attacking with her and lightning greaves

[@Rebumai]

What is with the Audio from John's side of the table? It seems like it happened with Kyle West last week too.

[@Parhelion2]

Why is it that all of the commanders I’m interested in watching are played by Jeremy. It seems like every time I find a set of commanders I want to watch he’s got the bant deck or the enchantment deck or the queen marchesa deck

[@Asuka2077]

wow so Niv is still good in Commander

[@ZombieShibby]

Great episode

[@hstuken]

1:43 - Jeremy can't attach the mask to an enchantment creature that returned at the same time.

[@Oko_Plz]

the moment where they don't know ancestral mask's textbox --" 1:40:15

[@Rdiaz1234]

Love it when Jon Wins

[@eric81757]

What was the Etrata joke about at the beginning? The one about paying for an appearance? I don't get it.

[@ryanworthington8095]

I think a lot of people misread etrata. It can only exile creatures but only cares about cards in exile. So you can animate opponents artifacts (u/b is good at it) and exile those and it still counts. Almost all decks run artifacts and you have no other way to really deal with them in u/b anyway.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

I misread Etrata, she can exile tokens and never activate like Annointed procession:P

[@ryanworthington8095]

@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 if she targets a token and the exile effect resolves you still have to shuffle her in but the token ceases to exist in exile and won't count towards your 3 cards in exile.

[@calebdelore3778]

Yeah but how do you put a hit counter on an artifact?

[@ryanworthington8095]

@@calebdelore3778 things like tezzeret agent of bolas or karn silver golem turn your opponents artifacts into x/x creatures where x is their cmc. So animate artifact, attack, profit. Also one of the very few ways to destroy artifacts in those colors

[@GreyeHazel]

I'm actually building literally all of these decks right now, but I'm thinking of running estrid rather than tuvasa.

[@GSGPINBALL]

Can we rock out to a “Battle of the Bans” episode? Banned commanders & other banned cards, cause heck the rules

[@Bored_Barbarian]

I know this probably won't get a response, but Jeremy, do you know where you got your 1984 shirt? It's one of my favorite books of all time.

[@adamrivera8997]

www.outofprintclothing.com/collections/mens-tees/products/1984-unisex-book-t-shirt

[@SCGCommander]

(Jeremy) Adam posted it above, but Out of Print is a great website with a bunch of items that have original book covers on them.

[@icegentleman21]

Jeremy's hand made me so sad I've been playing enchantress for years now and recently added blue when tulvasa came out but I've never had the engine fail like that all lands for like 3 turns

[@JohnDoe-mv9kp]

1h11min, after the khalni expedition you could have played field of ruins and blow stephen's doubling land up and gained 2 counters on the enchantment

[@troyleven8875]

When buying from SCG is there a promo code to support Commander Versus?

[@kristianovergaard1112]

Need Commander Vs in 4K

[@markharland2459]

Can't attach auras to permanents that enter at the same time with Open the Vaults. Ancestral Mask would have had to attach to a creature that was already in play.

[@T1GIB]

Thats a sick 1984 shirt on Jeremy, anyone know where he got it?

[@BetweenTwoFires8]

Papa Jon, better cards, better deck.

[@eatmoretidepods2499]

After etrata hits, shouldnt she go to command zone? That last line of text

[@reidmoore8754]

I am really sad that they went budget decks when using Etrata. I wanted to see some shenanigans abusing her ability using Ninjitsu and Flicker so you could hit marker everything

[@efnfen]

Video starts about 15 minutes in.

[@corrosivecabal]

Do the 'Volver cycle from apocalypse. Just big(ish) dumb creatures with kicker costs.

[@rastrellia.7648]

better swarm inteligence or thousand-year storm?

[@tubeman8239]

Please play Prossh, Stephen

[@BelzaBob]

Yay Jon is back

[@charlessloan1963]

So Stephen reaps the reward of letting Justin live....

[@Irion9283]

At the 1 hour mark after Stephen attacks with Etrata and exiles the Evolving Krasis, ain't he supposed to remove Etrata from play?

[@luizim1020]

That sigarda's aid though

[@lordderyk]

Now I'm going to have to put Bonus Round into my Mizzix deck.... XD

[@AndrewSchnieder]

39:36 when Jonathan says "you see they're getting their own Hulu show?"

[@kuul2bme]

At 37 min Jeremy should have put his darksteel mutation into hand from the rivers rebuke, not in the grave yard

[@Slack-3R]

Where do I go to submit a deck list?

[@TehTime]

How did Jeremy cast Phyrexian Rebirth at instant speed? Did I miss something?

[@pietarimajuri9753]

Alchemist's Refuge

[@MrUglama]

Hi Jeremy, at 1:40:19, why didn't you just killed justin and secured a point?

[@SamuraiSwordify]

Even if he had gone for Justin, John could have still bounced and secured himself an extra point for a save.

[@MetalSnakeBoogy]

Tusava putting in some work however needed some counter magic.

[@davidlevy1292]

Instead of a popper type format you should do the opposite where each card has to be more than 50 bucks, or something crazy like that

[@wilfulbuckle13]

I was hoping one of them would play Xantcha

[@BrianBartholin]

Sideboard dammage - what is that; how and why is it dealt?

[@TheGreedyKing]

BrianBartholin it’s really commander damage and 21 kills u no matter total life u have remaining (unless a card specifically states u can’t lose “platinum angle”) It’s just funny way to say it

[@patrickporter6441]

Where are those panda sleeves from? I need them in my life