Commodore 128D Restoration

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[@jugostran]

The people in the store must be like: "why is this balding man buying 20l of Peroxide every month"?

[@anotheruser9876]

Blonde pubes?

[@leomdk939]

I've actually pictured how the conversation would go and I think the ladies at the salon probably got a big kick out of learning that their bleaching product also restores those ugly beige computer cases back to a nice off-white color. Then again, that's only if the ladies at the salon are old enough to know what these computer cases even looked like. If they are too young then they probably just go "ohhhhh ok" and think he's probably some weirdo. He probably told them what he uses it for when he went to buy it and they were like, "Oh honey you need to STOP doing this you're making your hair all fall out!" and then he tells them and they all have a laugh. Then there's an older lady in the chair getting her hair done and she overhears this and she knows what those ugly beige boxes look like and she gets it and maybe she's got a husband whose got an old Commodore 64 in the basement and she asks if maybe he can can restore that as a surprise for her husband and then you know I need to stop thinking about this and start my day already what am I doing with my life

[@SQUIDWORD15]

@@leomdk939 uh huh

[@marcinostrowski2378]

"i'm youtuber with over million of sub" - should be sufficient.

[@Kasey1776]

I wonder if he tells them why.

[@dingdongbells3314]

There's just something relaxing about watching a man spray down his computer with a hose in his driveway.

[@cappaculla]

Dirty boy..

[@eggbirdtherooster]

Dont forget the sox, sometimes up to his knees.. 😁

[@Gayestskijumpever]

It puts the lotion on the keys or else it gets the hose again.

[@_mr3_]

dude I thought I was crazy, it's like asmrish rite

[@cappaculla]

Forcingmetouseafakename Remindsmeofmcrsoft "hello it support? Have you tried hosing it down?"

[@Wes8761]

"HONEY" "What" "The neighbor is putting old computers in a bin full of water again"

[@confusedkemono]

I gotta tell you restoring keyboards is one of the most satisfying things on Earth.

[@pepstein]

I expected him to separate the circuit board from the black plastic piece. I suspect some crud got in between the two.

[@PunkNDisorderlyGamer]

I know, the yellower the better it’s so satisfying seeing them turn bright white.

[@squaretrianglez]

With black keyboard these days its no longer satisfying

[@bitterlemonboy]

That's a computer, not a keyboard.

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

No, it’s a keyboard. C128D has a separate keyboard, the computer is in the rectangular chassis

[@ChristopherUSSmith]

Regarding the keyboard feet: Stick with double-sided tape! You went with double-sided tape to reattach the TRS-80 Color Computer badge because that's what was originally used; makes sense here, too.

[@AbbreviatedReviews]

Ya know, a while back I was thinking "Why do people watch youtube videos of people cleaning their houses?" and then I realized what I was watching someone clean a computer...

[@daylightanimation]

Actually I watch this, because I want to do the same some day. I have few old keyboards, monitors and computer cases I want to retrobright. But I don't know where to find chemicals to do this, I don't seem to find these in shops. Maybe order via online shops, but I don't really know how expensive this gonna be....

[@daylightanimation]

Already done that. No success yet. Especially with 40% ones, I've managed to find something close to 2 or 3% but that's not it.

[@daylightanimation]

It's difficult to find this H2O2 chemical in Middle Asia, where I'm located for the time being. Maybe I have to try to search it in Russia, which is nearby.

[@1Thunderfire]

There's videos of people cleaning their homes? ...I shouldn't be surprised though. They might be useful to watch.

[@EgoShredder]

I like cleaning as the end result is rewarding, well it is if you appreciate being clean etc.

[@SeanHodgins]

Any 3M double sided tape should work really well. I use the stuff on lots of projects. I use the thick stuff, but for that I would get the clear thin stuff.

[@alwinleerling]

SeanHodgins I was thinking the same thing. Using any adhesive will prevent you from taking the keyboard apart again. Tape should do the trick.

[@telecrate]

I believe the original stuff used for these pads is '3M 465 transfer tape'. You can get it on Amazon or mcmaster.com.

[@gingercat6128]

3M tissue tape seems to be the closest match, the 12mm size should be ideal. There's plenty on ebay.

[@pistool1]

Informative and very well executed video, thanks for that! 2-component epoxy is worth trying, too. It forms a very tough bond, but requires 24h drying off and some screw clamps to add some pressure and therefore to finalize it properly in the end. With epoxy based adhesives, you can basically attach and fix anything outdoors as well as indoors. 7:10 To save some time, effort and energy why not just take out every key and wash them in a washing machine with other laundry in mild temperature? Collect all of the keyboard keys in a lingerie wash bag, for example, and voíla :) I use to wash everything in machine wash...

[@SeanHodgins]

KoivuTheHab a lot of 3M tapes are considered permanent solutions, and are cleaner than any glue. There is a reason original manufacturers use double sided tape and not glue.

[@borzowsky]

Man, I love restorations. The feeling of old computer back to its former glory is... well.. glorious!

[@officialkidwizard]

Oh shit he's back

[@MintdowsOnYT]

????? For what?

[@pumpkin6429]

Oshtwaddap?

[@djditty8012]

Woohoo! He’s back folks!!

[@nathanhamman418]

Jenney he was gone for a few episodes while on vacation

[@TheJimmyp427]

It's cuz he never went black

[@martinlumber]

You have no idea how much I wanted to crawl through the screen, take a sawzall and cut that crate down in half. No more shadows!

[@RCAvhstape]

I kept waiting for him to prop it up with a 2x4 or something.

[@ZiggyTheHamster]

He needs like 4 to 6 paving stones that fit in the container. Stack them into the container until you're just below the lip at the top with the parts in there. You're going to displace a lot of water, so it should work out the same, but now you're at the top of the container and the shadow cast by the sides is not as big of a deal.

[@kellerrobert80]

Or a UV lamp. You do a TON of fussing and workarounds to use the sun. A simple 2 by 4 frame with a 3mil plastic liner would also to the trick.

[@DerpyBobo]

This.

[@wattage]

Completely agree. Shorter containers!

[@Jerbod2]

Thanks for the celsius conversion!

[@mariostar13]

Same! But 46ºC is TOO HOT!!!

[@rudywhittington7772]

Now us Normal people can understand him

[@everybody48]

Canadians thank you

[@referal6939]

@@rudywhittington7772 define "normal"

[@Her_Imperious_Condescension]

@@referal6939 Anyone who uses a logical unit of measurements?

[@applemacintoshguya1138]

My favourite"The 8-Bit Guy" series! I love 'em!

[@cissa95]

11:48 you had to move the W Great video as always

[@blauw67]

Noticed it as well

[@kaishenlong0502]

I was wondering if anyone else had caught that. I've actually paused the video to come down and check the comments.

[@TiogshiLaj]

Ghat are you talkinw about?

[@ColOfMan]

same hahaha

[@davidelviajero1841]

ASDW what layaout is that?? :)

[@m.shanebritton7830]

You are a true artisan in the craft of vintage computer restorations. As always, I enjoy watching you work with the detailed step-by-step breakdowns and attention to miniscule details. Splendid work.

[@Ablooga237]

I really like your dedication to restoring old computers, especially Commodores. I was born after their heyday and enjoy learning about them. We have a similar saying about the weather in Michigan, except it's "wait 5 minutes."

[@jonjimihendrix]

Excellent forensic analysis on the sun yellowing. My conclusion: it died from neglect. PS - theme song always makes me happy in the feels. :D

[@AlexoMello]

Agree. Great song!

[@st3sunusedacc]

YO MUNNA I'M GONNA GET SOME DCCIDYLHVDJVFBKRHDKVYKBFUDGUOFHULGDDFYJDGYKEFYIYSEGHKGYIEFEUFEDJYWEFECK AND SOME S***

[@jonathanweston2448]

Me too!

[@jeff97ish]

I appreciate all you do for vintage computers. It is nice to see someone who takes care of them and repairs them.

[@GeNGiM]

For the keyboard keys, you might want to consider getting a small ultrasonic cleaner. I used it to remove mould release grease from my resin model kits, using some proper degreaser, I usually observe improvement in just a few minutes and will just need a light rinse and scrub afterwards.

[@cometobrazil9916]

11:38 FoF, the "F" key is in the frong place, fas it a mistake? or fas it to test our attention? It fas wunny anyfay.

[@AlexPerrine]

A Z U L too many fs

[@ChristmasEve777]

ha! Funny! But you made an assumption - that he also placed the F key where the W goes. Instead, he could have messed up even more keys instead of just switching those two :)

[@pufaxx]

I remember "repairing" my brother's C128D in the 80ies … It fell off my bike (had a little accident) and the disk drive was loose, dumping around internally. When I arrived at my friend's home, we opened it up and noticed that the board also broke off its mounts. As we didn't have proper parts to fix this mess, we used a lighter ans some way-too-big screws to melt the board back again - and two empty toilet rolls to press the floppy drive back in its place. My brother never noticed, anything had happened to his computer. And it ran without any problems for many years. Those things were built like a tank.

[@sophieforan5094]

There is something so satisfying about watching these computers go from dirty old machines to near new looking beauties.

[@segymun1720]

I watched this video while eating a Bacon King from Burger King a few years ago, and now I crave one every time I re-watch it

[@ringfotografde]

Nice to see the inside of the other version of the C128D. In Germany they first sold a version with plastic case and a fan to cool down the case.

[@dreammfyre]

3:31 that's a gif right there

[@applemacintoshguya1138]

re hash we need to make it one! Best gift ever!

[@iamdamo]

go outside, get some air.

[@HaakonAnderson]

Just posted it to the community part of his FB page... 👍

[@AnOfficialAndrewFloyd]

#GIF_IS_JIFF

[@vertical7747]

A Floyd ITS G-I-F! ITS AN ACRONYM, NOT A WORD

[@LeighKoven]

So I like watching these restorations, but I wanted to comment because I love that David always credits the music at the end. I've discovered some great music that way (including "Ice Cream" in this video).

[@bobbobson4069]

What a magnificent restoration!!! It took a long time, but the beautiful whiteness of the keyboard is dazzling! Well done David!

[@coyle102]

Why not just use double sided clear tape for the pads ?

[@lewisjob2899]

David you make so happy because your saving a very rare piece of history

[@KennethDPedersen]

For the bin to do the Retrobrighting in, I was going to try a aluminum foil pan from the grocery store, the idea being that the reflective nature of the pan might help with the sun coverage also helping out with the green house effect by covering it.

[@EquilibristMsk]

Silicone is not suitable for this task. Use double-sided adhesive tape. :) Best wishes from Russia!

[@jabeezley]

Александр Карабиньош З

[@daemonspudguy]

Privyet, Aleksandr! Greets from the USA

[@EquilibristMsk]

Jacob daemonspudguy Tice best regards from Russia! 🙂😉

[@MCAlexisYT]

Почему ты это говоришь? Пожалуйста, ответь мне на английском, хотя

[@EquilibristMsk]

MCAlexis The TCF Fan est. 2020 Потому что у силикона нет адгезии к такому пластику.

[@TheRealArtimusKnight]

I showed my Electronics and Computer Science teacher your Osborne One video, and he loved it

[@MrRaivokasMagma]

Thanks for telling the temperatures in celsius. Makes it easier to comprehend how hot it is there 😄

[@ScottDuensing]

YOU! YOU'RE the one who swiped that 128D auction from me! :-D If I had to lose it, I'm glad it was to you!

[@cybernoid001]

Great episode as always. If you're still looking for a solution to get the rubber feet to stick, some contact cement will work really well. Apply just a little on the feet and the key board, wait until both are at the tacky consistency of a sticky note, and then stick them together. After 24 hours they'll stick together like it was always meant to be. You can find contact cement at any major home improvement store such as Lowe's or Home Depot

[@richardpatrick32123]

These restoration vids are just so satisfying! I hope you had a really great break, David.

[@DaleFrewaldt]

Thanks for your videos. You've reignited my passion for retro tech & inspired me to finally pull the trigger on my very first Commodore 64.

[@aarontollman]

Welcome back David. Hope you had a great vacation! Love your videos.

[@kevinmonzel]

Wow the before and after wipe was super nice!!! Great job!

[@tanathos0414]

Glad you're back, David.

[@Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial]

Welcome back! I hope you had a great vacation, Dave!

[@Lexilove2016]

You can computers and film are these guy's passions.

[@5PctJuice]

There's a similar saying in Phoenix: "If you don't like the weather, wait 5 minutes. If you do, wait 10." Especially true during monsoon season (mid-July to early September)

[@pandaant]

You were blessed with good patience. I tried to take apart a controller (PlayStation 2 to be exact) and I was fine... Until I had to put it together. It wouldn't go together and the buttons fell out and L 2 and R 2 would get stuck down. It completely didn't work afterwards. So it's useless. I have a clear plastic one that is way cooler that I fixed before. So the point is. I would end up smashing it.

[@AirborneSurfer]

Hey! David's back! Hope you enjoyed your trip! We certainly enjoyed the substitute hosts!

[@Yukke91]

This is why I subscribed

[@granierromain]

You've got gold in your hands. Hello from France .😁

[@wrestletube1]

Commodore 128 had a desktop like an AMIGA wow. Didn't know it even existed as a part of the double memory C64 family.

[@NighthawkNZ]

I still have my Commodore 128D... and dual 80c/40c RGB monitor... I use to have it have dual CMD hard drives and 1581 floppies, The Final Cartridge III, mouse, etc... it was a pretty fancy setup back in the day. I used GEOS 128, and DesTerm128, and a few other apps...

[@sysghost]

To reattach those rubber feet, I'd suggest the same type of double-sided tape smart phone repair shops use to attach screens onto the phone bodies. Usually those rolls are rather thin, but one can always pull several strips over the rubber feet. I use this double-adhesive for all kinds of things myself. really useful. Sticks really well, and can be removed if need be. It's thin too so it doesn't add much. Just google up "3M Adhesive Sticker Tape LCD Screen".

[@eightbit1975]

Over two years too late on the response, but what works great for me in regard to adhesive for feet, case badges and so on is good old rubber cement. It goes on strong but can be removed with heat (hairdryer) if need be. And it does not damage the plastic as other glues or adhesives may do.

[@squirrelguy2195]

He's returned! And with more Commodore goodness!

[@satrnfan]

Come for the intro tunes, stay for the content.

[@OuchMyNeck]

Awesome video as always. When you said silicone I immediately said that's not going to to hold. Silicone doesn't like to stick to plastic or rubber. Locktite gel glue should work well though.

[@ChillyTheDog21]

I Am Glad That The 8 Bit Guy is Back

[@rc3wondere]

We have a saying in Houston: if you don’t like the weather wait 5 minutes.

[@lurkerrekrul]

I always clean the cords. I usually use a paper towel soaked in Windex. When cleaning keys, I usually put them in a large plastic cup with a generous helping of dish soap and hot water. I've never tried to retrobright anything though. I also find it kind of ironic that you spend all that time cleaning up a C128D and then to test it, you use a C64 game.

[@robbyxp1]

To solve your too high sides on your retrobright box, you may want to look at garden centres. They have lots of shallow plastic trays used for planting which may be a better fit.

[@frankycheese]

Great work... back in high school I went out with a girl for a couple weeks just because she had a Commodore 128D lol

[@cryptocsguy9282]

@Franky Cheese 😆😆🤣🤣

[@rebane2001]

Thanks for including Celsius conversions, really cool to have

[@christiangeis4517]

David, great video as always. Why don’t use double sided tape to attach the rubber feet? - Glue them onto one side of the double sided tape. - Than cut them out. - Than remove the second protective layer. - Than attach them to the keyboard. Regards Christian

[@kenny13a]

I just started watching this video and I want to thanks you for put the temperature of the water in ºC.

[@russ117044]

Loved my 128! Its sad though that Commodore totally abandoned it so completely.

[@Geekzmo]

Great video and restoration. You should use double sided tape Scotch 3M, you may need to cut it off a bit but that will be the best option I guess.

[@Dex99SS]

Being that black absorbs all waves of visible light, and infrared... You should likely get yourself a similar tote, but of the clear plastic variety. Amplify that sun rather than effectively block it out entirely. Would only help get all the various angles as well... as it would be more likely to propagate and spread the UV as well.

[@DusteDdekay]

They really went to town on mounting those LEDs :D Own PCB + Screw + Plastic tap.. :D

[@Aepek]

First computer ever used was an Apple when was in kindergarten learning to read/write....yep learned on a computer and started to code in 1st grade at school went to. My uncle had an old Commodore 64 that would play spy Hunter & ranger on while I watched.....the good old days of computer era.....wow

[@MarkReed-smokindeist]

I never had one but my former business partner used a nicely-upgraded one for our UG's BBS. I liked this version but I had a flat 128

[@cynergyarts4876]

I love these restoration videos, It is satisfying!

[@Sam-gw3gc]

watching these videos is so satisfying

[@HelloKittyFanMan.]

"I assume it works just like on the 1571 disk drive...." Dave, that's because that IS a 1571!

[@sherpajones]

If the keyboard and plunger assembly can be separated from the pcb, leave all the keys in place and use a soft brush with soap under running water. It will get the surface and sides of all keys with little effort.

[@hellocollegejason198]

The transitions are top notch

[@elfenornTV]

oh muh gawd the before/after wipe FeelsGoodMan 12:34

[@jdkomododragon]

It occurs to me, if you can retro-brite on the stove without direct UV light, it shouldn't be too difficult to rig up a stand over a butane or propane burner and put a large metal (disposable foil roasting or other) pan over it for the larger pieces. It would be consistent and controllable, and you wouldn't be reliant on or restricted by the sun.

[@ScreamingAllTheTime]

I wanna know what the salon people think when he comes in for more peroxide. “Oh boy it’s peroxide guy again. He always comes in and just buys peroxide!”

[@spartanforce7]

"Why does he need so much peroxide? He's clearly not bleaching that tuft on his head!"

[@mykie242]

Hey, David! Have you thought about using 3M Carpet Tape for reapplying feet like this? It's cheap, comes on a roll with a wax paper backing, and you can use a craft knife to cut it exactly. That's what I use to reapply feet. Hope that helps!

[@Pyrichia]

I've always used double-sided tape to replace the gooey adhesive on case and keyboard feet. It works every time.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

David, I needed to RetroBright a 1989 GameBoy. I did so with plastic wrap and Sally SalonCare 40 cream, but it came out with streaking marks. In your opinion, what is the best course going forward? I'd like to salvage it if possible.

[@nightshadelenar]

did you try what david did in the video with the water and the peroxide? that might help in terms of fixing that streaking.

[@JessicaFEREM]

It would be a good investment to go to walmart or smth like that and get a large clear tote so it can get the most sunlight from the least amount of moving

[@Margrim]

My wife told me that i need therapy, so i watch 8-bit guy restoring old tech every day!

[@natgrant1364]

I had never heard of that model of C128 until today. Anyway, it looks great!

[@Landeville]

Great restoration as usual! You should consider building a solar-tracking auto-rotating retrobrite bin :D. Althought bin with lower sides might be easier solution. But everything worth doing is worth overdoing, am I right?

[@Alex-gi7sm]

For Bonding these pieces on the keyboard, I recommend 3M VHB F9460PC or a similar transfer tape. Expensive solution but should work well Or try a thin standard acrylic double sided tape.

[@Cheese_1337]

he protecc he attacc but most importantly he *bacc*

[@berndp3426]

maybe you should use superglue for re-attaching these rubber strips. Or just use strong professional doubleside adhesive tape (for industrial purposes). or new ones which look similar from the store.

[@ProjectWolfDragon]

Try 3M weatherstripping adhesive from the autoparts store, spread a thin layer on both the feet and the keyboard pocket (a little dab will do) WAIT for the adhesive to become tacky (or it won't stick) and then press the key into the pocket on the keyboard

[@t31000]

Great vid Dave,use evo stick for attaching the feet.hope this helps

[@emacabrera]

You should get a UV led light strip and forget about the weather. It works really well

[@lochinvar00465]

Biggest deal on my 128D is the bad drive head. Still haven't replaced it yet. Got one just sitting here as soon as i get around to it

[@cyberp0et]

I love the intro on this channel :) And of course, the content and the 8 bit guy himself :) That keyboard sure is messy. I wonder if besides the bugs bunnies (I mean dust bunnies), there are not some traces of jizz inside :))

[@TheVisionsbydarrah]

I miss that game... Spent a lot of hours playing that.

[@Aepek]

Remember that game, but didn't play on a PC, so funny..... For the feet, try the red cell phone double sided adhesive tape, or the black (adhering the frames together). If these don't work, nothing will; as I use daily for cell phone & electronics repair for customers (never had a warranty replacement on a device yet after using this stuff). Cheers, A

[@shawnphase]

lol, magic gasses? five bucks for a bottle of peroxide? youre killin me here.

[@proxy1035]

oh hey we get °C. that's a welcome change, only took like a few years to realize that not only Americans watch your videos :D 10:50 wait what? a Z80 inside a Commodore Computer?! what am i missing here?

[@Helperbot-2000]

I like yor videos! Also its nice that you include celsius

[@DarkDave3]

So this is totally weird. I started to watch the video and had to leave my computer for awhile. When I came back, I saw the latest email from Dave on his Kickstarter so read through that. I saw something about the music in his new game, which linked to the Kickstarter page. He has three tracks on it for PC, Tandy, and AdLib versions of the music sample. Took a quick listen at each and came back to this video at around 10:30 mark. So Dave is putting the 128D back together and low and behold it's the same music picking up right from where I left off on the Kickstarter page. Totally random.

[@Draculinio]

Great! I love retro computers, feel nostalgic.

[@kardRatzinger]

As soon as I see the word "restoration" I hit like before even seeing the video.

[@justinweathers7180]

Use powergrab by loctite it’s made for plastic on plastic adhesion without the bad effects of glues

[@Johnathan_Waters]

The music played on your videos is so wonderfully and quintessentially 80's. I assuming this is made with analog synths?? Do you compose it yourself? Great job and keep up the good work!