Common Ground: Was Meghan right about racism within the monarchy?

Sky News’ Trevor Phillips asks whether Meghan was right about racism and snobbery within the wider Royal Family.
He is joined by historian and writer Dr Tessa Dunlop, actor and director Kelechi Okafor and former royal correspondent Jennie Bond.
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[@FKotun]

Would it be wonderful if we just take a break and focus on our own family problems. I'm sure there is a lot to tackle in that regard.

[@lorir5728]

It's escapism so we don't have to think about our own problems for a second.

[@nabeelaboufayed5735]

Absolutely, they won't be worried about heat or food or paying bills and that goes for all rich, famous people not just them, time to focus on the real issues facing us common people.

[@celsocosta880]

I just HATE the ideia of calling black people people of colour???I prefer black people instead because otherwise sounds like we have too many colours 👀👀👀

[@lindawagner8448]

they wont let us,,, she wanted to be everywhere and so she is

[@StarsInYourEyes]

H& R suddently transformed the s**t of my family into dreamland!

[@asaid6336]

I do believe that parts of UK are racist, but that is unfortunately in every country. I spend 18 months in UK and as a person of color were treated most of the time with warmth and acceptance. There were one instance of racism, but I chose not to dwell on it as the positive outweigh the negative and I find the British people quite accepting.

[@Jokmulu]

Black people are 4 out of 5 racially discriminated if found in a Predominately white, Asian communities or countries. Britons are not generally Racially discriminated in Africa as Britons would do to Africans, Asians.

[@TheBeatlesarekings]

I have live here all my life and have never ever experienced any level of racism in the U.K.

[@bettyrussell2777]

L heritage

[@jeanshenk]

Very little racism in the UK.

[@diamondrose775]

@@jeanshenk 😂😂😂 ok

[@alisonvandermerwr6349]

Can I just ask if queen Camilla were to have a lady in waiting who is of colour...how would this help the current issue as she may be accused of reverting back to the days of slavery...it saddens me sometimes that all white people are considered privileged. My ancestors too were in service....and have suffered hunger, and severe hardship! Please let us embrace each other as "the human race" and we might get somewhere...

[@ernalavilla5911]

We also have racism in Australia at work, shops, institutions and anywhere in the world. There's always status, race and etc. Not just black, yellow or white.

[@gloriatorome6435]

This comment is so true.

[@patriciashepard887]

With Rupert Murdoch's racism, he's used his dying media empire to contaminate & escalate hatred, divisions, and contaminating societal demographics based on class and race.

[@tia9583]

The behavior is projected very disproportionately for "black and brown people "worldwide, also the treatment is much more aggressive and usually yields harsh results.

[@sajenjamu1406]

In Australia, not black but Asians andaboriginists.

[@sandraayres5106]

Very true. But we need to focus on our work , our life family etc., and live life to the fullest no matter what. Am not white but very proud of who I am; half Spaniard and half Mexican with a bit of the Mayan blood. NO ONE absolutely NO ONE will ever bring me down or make me feel any less. We are loved by our LORD, no matter what. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@loveandpurpose_intentionally]

What I have gathered with most blacks who support the horrendous acts of Harry and Meghan is that they always tie it down to racism or colonialism... and the black girl talking about wealth distribution in Africa doesn't she know that's going to replenish the pocket of just "a few". I wish my brothers and sisters will get behind the victimhood mentality, speak when there is genuine inequality, and racism and not support someone blindly only because they share a skin colour- It's almost like Racism is synonymous with being black nowadays. The world is already divided enough and to start sowing hatred of race in the younger generation isn't going to help. I think it's a shame to solely blame the Western world for problems in Africa. Would the Western world be blamed for tribal discord, killings, and corruption in Africa too?

[@iloveopera1951]

The best comment!

[@sopissedoff]

And the Lenny Henry's and Lewis Hamilton's of this world think they can nip in and out of there colour when it suits them

[@Michelle-cz1vj]

Yes the western world is responsible.

[@sopissedoff]

@@Michelle-cz1vj just ignore me I hit the wrong thread about UKRAINE , but on the race thing , There's a lot of Lenny Henry's types about living in mansions and giving snide race remarks

[@adi7031]

For once a balanced discussion. No vitriol or hate. Everyone presenting ideas in a respectful and balanced way.

[@markcaa2942]

Yeah but Megan is not black lady she is more to the white, meaning 90 percent

[@markcaa2942]

Diana Prince of Wales suffered more than anyone else in the hands of the Royal family and she the most beautiful lady on earth

[@nanabuhari3505]

Very well said 👍👍👍👍

[@patrickmiller1834]

From an American I totally agree

[@CameliaKay9804]

Exactly

[@dapawap]

The Queen had her money in the Cayman Islands pull that back into the public funds. No one seems to talk about that fact!

[@esdee499]

Lots of rich people, world leaders etc have their funds in tax free havens.

[@jeanshenk]

I'm sorry I disagree with some of what the people on the panel say. It is possibly true some things could be modernized over time, but MM truly showed she didn't care in the least to follow simple Royal protocol....simple things but she didn't want to. I think MM knew what she was getting into, and she played her cards. They pulled the race and mental health card when she couldn't get the monarchy to bow to her every woke, whiny demands. I actually think Tom Bauer and other authors who happen to be male are right. Let's not make this about sex now too and say that a male writer cannot exercise freedom of speech like a female author without branding them as masogonist. I think Piers, Tom Bauer and Valentine Low are right and they have close enough connections and Tom Bauer documented their statements with footnotes. I don't think the monarchy is racist. MM began to show her true colors, which is why the tide turned. I believe MM always planned to leave the monarchy. Tom Bauer says that H. planned to possibly leave since prior to the wedding. Why did MM only invite her black mom, but no siblings or friends? I don't think this was about structural racism.

[@alixchapel974]

Couldn't agree more!

[@maxine3353]

Total agree!..

[@joysutton5528]

M is manipulative.

[@rovenchy]

Kelechi needs to keep shut and I'll respect her. Being black doesn't make anyone a victim. Stop using your skin colour to fight, be a pround person and respect your elders: I'm a black British/ Nigerian btw.

[@susanbrowne6508]

Really?

[@gloria9943-e9n]

YES really !@@susanbrowne6508

[@monicanath4859]

@@gloria9943-e9n👍🏼👍🏼

[@judithmartinenriquez491]

I grew up in a colonized country as well, and find it ridiculous when people start talking about reparations and redistribution of wealth, like it's a simple matter of money. I had to stop watching this segment because it's so ridiculous how these two women think they're such experts. And not once did they acknowledge the good the royal family has done for their country! The blonde one gave herself away when she said that most of the media people who criticize Meghan are "old men". So that's it, isn't it, some personal issue there!

[@lorir5728]

I'm in the states. "old men" here don't even know who she is. Women meghans age are the ones that, if they even know her, think she's A maniac. Harry's wife is not a normal person anywhere. Crazy is crazy. I love how people got mad because the family told harry to take it slow. Now everyone is complaining Meghan wasn't prepared. Meghan wanted fame, money and California life. Never wanted to stay there

[@ladydove5895]

@judithmartinenriquez...well written post. I'm from a former colonized country as well and victimhood will get us no where. Tessa and the woman next to her came into the conversation with their irrational and closed mines. So sick of the color/race card.

[@virginiahall8822]

She is so Right. They are old white men. Have no idea what going on in a biracial family. How many old men had any interaction with biracial or Black people?? How many they went to school with?? How many live in his neighborhood?? How many he have invited for dinner,? How many go to there church??

[@foreverstrong6532]

Couldn’t have said it better myself. TY Judith Martin Enriquez.

[@foreverstrong6532]

@@ladydove5895 Totally.

[@snorlonikins1]

I thought that Gail King said that neither she or Harry and Meghan thought that the RF were racists.

[@SMD2308]

13:58 the guest says to Tessa that she does not know what it is like to experience racism in day to day life: fair point BUT Meghan did not identify as black, or even biracial, until Harry. That is evidenced on her CV for her application for “Suits”, in which she has ‘Caucasian’ down for her ethnicity. Even people from her earlier days say they did not know. So fair point but in this case, probably not relevant.

[@utopian_blossom]

The term Caucasian refers to those whose ethnic heritage hails from the Caucasus geographic region of Western Asia. The term is so misused. I don't know what Prince Harry's wife put on her CV but as she seems to be of German/Austrian descent from the Markles and Afro/Caribbean descent from the Raglands, she is not Caucasian at all.

[@Possibilities201able]

Even if she didnt understand does that make it right?

[@sandradiana2202]

Yes let the trurth come out

[@Gatteleylife9957]

It's if they did not understand. She entered the organisation and was lifted to wallow. Just as the treated Princess Diana when she delivered the Prince and the spare!!!

[@lorrainedsouza443]

The blond lady makes it seem like M Markle came from a ghetto as compared to Catherine on the educational front. Markle too was educated well, so to say that she didn't know what the monarchy was all about was an odd statement to make!

[@davidmoore8289]

Harry has realised that there is a hierarchy in his new family and his at the bottom.

[@gracious-champongandwe1881]

Very mature conversation not one sided piers Morgan dramatic shouting that he can’t even hear himself talking.

[@minanigole8487]

Piers Morgan is getting lots of money by doing that and the way he acts shows he is an psycho 😂

[@DolceAnz]

Yeah. Right

[@DolceAnz]

Yeah.. he is bias against M and H.

[@sierrajohnson7300]

Megan rejected him at a party a while back.

[@cindymaceda2999]

Piers, whom I respected when he had a show on CNN in America, now only makes a career of criticising Meghan.

[@Golfonegwofour]

There is no white blood or black blood! We are all one race - the human race! lets start being a little bit more friendly to each other shall we?

[@franciscareyes2038]

If it's the institution they are fighting, then why attack Catherine? As stated those that marry into the institution all have a hard time. Am at a lost. Very contradictory.

[@mangojuice8038]

Catherine is now part of the institution, she was given a hard time at first, but now she has gained the rights as a member, to target any one that may be a treat to her.

[@Sunrise9696-v2z]

They are attacking Catherine because of the dispute at the wedding

[@tumerator]

How did they attack Catherine?

[@ruvanothando7274]

Did she attack Cathrine?

[@ruvanothando7274]

@@Sunrise9696-v2z Camilla Tominey lied about this and Meghan was attacked by all the newspaper.

[@Mimi25291]

As a mixed race woman myself I can remember Dianna was treated appallingly in the press by the media and she was white. The institution has racist issues within its self but let’s not forget how Diana was treated as a white blue eyed blonde woman. There is a problem of how the press treats people they hold up as their own British iconic’s. Remember Paul McCartney ex how she was treated called a prostitute etc because they held him as their British iconic star. It’s treatment of women is appalling

[@chamkaur1160]

Diana was about to have a brown baby with a Muslim man

[@user-cy4vw1qj9m]

Paul Mc Cartney ex whatever she was not she married for money glad he got rid of her.

[@Mimi25291]

@@chamkaur1160 Dianna was hounded and stalked by press before that relationship existed

[@Mimi25291]

@@user-cy4vw1qj9m we don’t know that but still doesn’t justify being called the names she was by British press.

[@sjam1159]

@@chamkaur1160 Dodi was already engaged and was in love with another woman, when his father called him back to the UK to date Diana. I heard that in a video from his fathers mouth on video. Diana would have figured that out and bolted from him. It was only a matter of time.

[@kalyee100]

Meghan claims herself she didn’t understand. Personally I don’t understand how she didn’t. I’m from the US and much younger then her and understand how the monarchy works.

[@ohiomaimoukhuede6640]

I think it's reasonable to assume that she didn't understand. Afterall she was already famous and she could think she understands being famous in that context but that of itself is very different to being a member of the British royal family.

[@tanyafrida7380]

@@ohiomaimoukhuede6640 If she didn't get her bachelor's degree in International Relations, I might agree. But the fact that she was clueless about the monarchy says one of two things: either American university is lacking or she paid someone to do the work.

[@reidx512]

@@tanyafrida7380 PREACH!!!! I just thought and said the same thing-- she KNOWS exactly what she is doing.....

[@MsAggie5]

@@tanyafrida7380 she paid someone? It's a joke!

[@tanyafrida7380]

@@MsAggie5 Clearly I was being sarcastic about her paying someone. The bigger question is: Why didn't she know -- as a person with a degree in International Relations -- about basic royal protocol?

[@ianbideshi8021]

This woman preplanned this whole situation.

[@Sssssssslf]

Facts

[@JayJay-ge9sm]

How?

[@nomsashezi9775]

Lol

[@mrscitrine3592]

@@JayJay-ge9sm think

[@deedeemegadoodoo2864]

Lol

[@nataliecampbell8762]

She knew she was never going to be the CEO silly woman. Her husband is 6th in line to the throne!

[@kirkc4696]

But Harry doesn't want to accept that fact in reality.

[@MsAggie5]

If she's nothing, your daily mail and house whatever should leave her alone.

[@florenceferdinand4717]

She don't want to be close of nothing yall over there just mad she wasn't a doormat like kate.and the queen spitefully changed Harry succession he had every right to leave

[@cindymaceda2999]

@@kirkc4696Furthermore, he doesn’t even want to have to live William’s restricted life. He ran away from that trap.😊

[@virginia4753]

I'm confused about It. English press and whole media made the bigger damage.

[@cindymaceda2999]

Haz/Megz criticism is a mega£$ industry. 😊

[@shirleyvz11]

I also saw this coming from the moment the relationship became public. I knew the media and as a consequence the public, was coming for her. I felt sorry for her really.

[@IAMSMITH11]

The pomp and the ceremony and its peculiar rituals are what makes it special .... we Brits are proud of the hundreds of years of history because of our RF. We have an identity! We have each other!

[@bostonkittykatt]

FACTS 💯

[@claudenesimpson420]

Nobody... I mean Nobody does pomp and ceremony like the Brits!! Supercedes any entertainment on Netflix by far!!

[@IAMSMITH11]

@@bostonkittykatt 🙏👍

[@IAMSMITH11]

@@claudenesimpson420 🙏👍

[@bostonkittykatt]

@@claudenesimpson420 💯

[@MementoY2K]

This interview was a complete mess. That one lady just pick and chooses what history is. Nothing learnt or gained from this.

[@rosehudson2957]

Which lady? There were three of them there.

[@Khem3]

Please own your opinion as mine differs

[@chrisreynolds3351]

I actually replayed this because I could not believe the offensive remarks being made by Dunlop and Okafor. I looked for context against the reality of today. I waited for verification of their accusations and remarks made with such venom and, yes, hate. Bond remained calm, factual and dignified. The panel was not balanced at all. It was, despite my open mind, impossible to find common ground. And when I balance it with the Malice Aforethought that went in to releasing the trailer to the Megan & Harry Documentary to coincide with the visit of Prince William & Catherine; the proven lies that have been told by Harry & Megan, and all by reliable sources, it is impossible not to feel, given Megan´s history of family feuding, that the inability to adapt to the Royal Household has to be equally shared. But whereas the Royals maintain a quiet dignity and composure, Harry & Megan have refused olive branches and opportunities to reconcile and continue to act with hate, vitriol and spite. I need to listen to a debate where the participants offer truthful insights based on current day facts. Facts that enable me to see things in a new and better light. This was not that debate.

[@Sssssssslf]

Excellently said! There's no facts presented here at all!

[@kirkc4696]

Good thinking!

[@yi3226]

Racism is an issue in the uk tabloid. Every time I go to the shops, I see a lot of anti Meghan campaign. As a white person, I am tired of seeing this. We need to stop this.

[@savitriperera6779]

Very well explained

[@nellieweller8003]

Silence means consent

[@rebeccaday8612]

Trevor is an excellent chairperson. He's really guiding this conversation.

[@MissDallas262]

But we r not talking about Trevor are we ?

[@wildthing72]

@@MissDallas262 Wtf?

[@Annodsenrab]

Yeah he shut people down when they interrupted! Good on him

[@AngelaDibble-qc2ot]

@@MissDallas262 Yes We Are.

[@shiva_productions]

"Why so much vitriol' the guest asks. Because Meghan blamed & continues to blames everyone bit herself for people not liking her. She thought she was walking into a celebrity role. She didn't get that royalty is not celebrity. She walked in & after 5 minutes wanted to change how it's all done. That's called disrespect & lack of humility. She also didn't get that she should take her place in the hierarchy. She's the kind of person who wants to be the centre of attention. She couldn't handle that she couldn't act & do what she wanted. Tessa on the panel presents zero facts to back her opinion. Meghan filled the church on her wedding day with celebrities, with one family member of hers there. Meghans decision. And a clue as to what her gameplan was - to use the royal family as a stepping stone to global fame & monetize it in the U.S. I think money isn't her only goal, I think fame & attention mean more to her. It's clear from all her actions she wants to be Diana no.2.

[@eldamandal7856]

The problem is Harry's wife right from the wedding when the celebrities stood as her family.

[@sherethadaniels473]

So What it was her wedding. If she wanted circus animals there that was her right.

[@allbyhisgrace8925]

@@sherethadaniels473 exactly.Looking to create more hate towards meghan. With a family like the one she was born into without a choice ,there's definitely issues there and she chose to have people who support her and there for her and keep drama away so?Any other human would've been OK ? I really hope they win this and things shift for the better for all.

[@jaunitapretorius5292]

It's not as if Kate got a free ticket from the press either

[@suzyqualcast6269]

Nor lately 'beatified' HRH P. Anne, anyone with a memory......

[@andreajones6613]

In comparison she got a golden ticket

[@agra3778]

@@andreajones6613 yes, and she still complains that she is not the winner.

[@annettemaria318]

Kate was fortunate her husband had the power and pull to put a stop to the "waiting Katy, " and the" climbing wisteria " referring to the Middleton sisters..But for Megan it intensified after her marrage,not that I'm a megan fan or hater...Harry's frustration was that he could ot do the same understandably.

[@femiokeke3274]

Yea but it took Kate 10 years or more to get indoctrinated.

[@patrickobrien1566]

Remember Catherine was treated badly by the press in the early days of hers and Williams relationship.Meghan should be used to institutionalization, the film and TV industry is heavily institutionalized from the movie moguls to the directors who arrange the actors and actresses lives.

[@lauramcgrew5604]

It happen when the jealousy of the other royal family felt she was getting more attention from them. It was done by design.

[@ikalesunflower]

love how the presenter took control of the conversation

[@hussainanoordeen5754]

This is a crazy one sided opinionated conversation. M had problems with HER own family!!! She alienated them in a most cruel manner. Harry has not even met his father in law! He is non existent to them Leave aside the RF....Markle has treated her own family in a cruel manner. What is there to discuss????

[@criticsatlarge0073]

That royal wedding was awful. The side eyes Camilla, Kate and Zara did was shocking.

[@florenceferdinand4717]

They were pure disrespectful

[@aprilparker8114]

It Ceremony was way too long and interesing..Royals are people too..others also, made gestures..I do and I do!! We're Married!! YES! Done...

[@a81758]

The side eyes were because of the long sermon.

[@suegroizard415]

@@a81758 agreed it was utterly boring,

[@great8413]

That's because the American pastor was an awful embarrassment and his sermon was ridiculous. I was embarrassed for him and my skin is darker than his.

[@cynthiamorris1874]

But Camilla worked hard for years to be accepted by the conservative press, Meghan couldn’t be bothered, she knew at a very early stage where she was going to go, and that was California.

[@ginaamedeka]

Kelechie shouldn’t have been part of the panel. Her contributions weren’t useful to the conversation

[@marynorman-latus7055]

That lovely black presenter is a true gentleman and very intelligent Bravo!!

[@filipepedro8272]

Hes a monarch supporter

[@raymondlaurence980]

Why mention his skin colour?

[@gabolu9268]

His skin colour is mention because he is one of the cocoanut planted among blacks to discredit blacks agitations.

[@eriihf]

@@raymondlaurence980 in the lefty world we live in...everything is about race.

[@raymondlaurence980]

@@eriihf lefty world? We are ruled by Eton boys...hardly lefty

[@Mary.Quantum426]

She picked up 'the whiff' of people hearing about her nasty personality and bullying manner, and expected the Palace to refute these claims, which they didn't, and she is angry and vindictive about that.

[@alibi509]

Truth.

[@rosemariebaber3360]

They, unfairly fired ms hussey, without even trying to defend that old lady!

[@carolynboyce3857]

Why the men entering that family not treated the same way? No woman should have to go through the treatment that the ladies have to endure on entering that CULT.

[@01denese]

Philip got it pretty bad from the media. Mark Phillips was just hated by the family. They called him Fog because they said he was thick and wet.

[@vildaolsen563]

The monarchy is not old fashioned and outdated this is 2023 and the the monarchy exists. That 1 large black lady who said it's out of date and old fashioned well guess what young lady if the monarchy disappeared and change I would have no reason to save my money and travel to Europe and go to England because Great Britain is nothing but an island of English-speaking people if there's no constitutional monarchy showing us the pomp and circumstance and history of a 1000 years. It's exciting to see all that going on it's exciting to see people cirtsy ..it's terrific ,! !

[@maureenhunter2257]

No one should be crushed if there more warmth was coming from the family, why did her age played a big part, it should not be and it is no one business, she is still a young woman, no one did not say anything about Charles age against Diana's age, Diana was 19 years when she and Charles were wed, moreover Camilla is a home wrecker but she is now queen in which there is nothing about her earlier life messing around Diana's marriage to Charles, Charles was cheating on Diana with Camilla at the time of their marriage, but the media said nothing yes they protected Charles and drive Diana to her death. I do not blame Harry one bit for calling out all these people and media biases against them and coming against what they did to his mother.

[@ikeaub]

If Charles is able to bring people together and he's indeed good at it, let's see how he's able to bring his boys to resolve their differences. The best discussion I've listened to so far.

[@josroberts9069]

The king should have stepped early stages of the war between the two brothers and their wives. I know how is like when two brothers gets married things change .

[@maggie6]

The boys have to want to reconcile. No one can force two grown men to be friends if one or both refuse to let by gones be bygones. Particularly if one attacks the ornery on an almost daily basis.

[@walterreansalley3410]

@@maggie6 👍❤

[@mj24672]

Too late for that. They’ve burned their bridges.

[@lynmcnorton9627]

I love all the pomp and circumstance that is our royal family ❤

[@GGora]

Wow. We are still taking this proven liar seriously?? Why such headlines??? Who gets so many second chances??

[@sharyn6915]

No megan wasn’t she’s right she just couldn’t get it she wasn’t going to be top dog

[@daviniarobbins9298]

Meghan's only crime is she is different. If William and Harry had been born the other way round would Harry and his wife still get all the hate in the press? Somehow I doubt it.

[@laurahoward5426]

If frogs could fly....

[@keithgiblin2636]

Please. Catherine was subjected to over a decade of criticism from the press. MM was subjected to none.

[@mrscitrine3592]

She certainly was different. She was disrespectful of the culture, traditions, protocols of the family and institution she married into.

[@katel7309]

Harry probably would not have his mental health issues.. we wouldn't even be in this situation. William is sensible and intelligent he would have gone on with his life. He enjoyed his job flying helicopter ambulance. Would have found a nice girl to marry .

[@mefford67]

@@keithgiblin2636 Huge difference between rudeness and racism.

[@carolyn7191]

Yes she is biracial and its the black side that they don’t like. She’s also strong and won’t back down. If the Royals were smart they would use both Harry and Meghan because its clear to the world they are great activists.

[@johannesbols57]

They LEFT the RF. They could've used any platform but she was only interested in merch and monetization of the brand. Wake up already and start thinking for yourself.

[@agra3778]

@@johannesbols57 agreed. Those two left the BRF on their own free will. For more privacy. Yeah, all those interviews, podcasts, memoir, and netflix. Yeah right ... such a privacy indeed..

[@ferrarembeth459]

Reallly.... ALL IN HER HEAD IS " HOW CAN I BE FAMOUS AND STAND OUT ABOVE ALL THE A LIST CELEBS NO MATTER WHO I HAVE TO HIT AND PUNCH , CAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT MEEE MEGHAN 🤔🤔 🤣🤣🤣 "

[@Athena_208]

@@johannesbols57 couldn’t agree more she though she could have everything her way. The RF is bigger than her but in her delusional mind she thinks she’s the star. Meghan refused to accept this. She failed as a royal and now she’s trying to capitalize off her association with the RF and her title. Her first mistake was thinking royals are like celebrities.

[@lisaviv]

I find the lack of loyalty to King Charles who has always promoted inclusivity - quite offensive. The woman who wants to abolish the Monarchy and redistribute wealth maybe should write to Meghan Markle and ask her if she has a spare room in her mansion in Montecito. That would be a way of the Royal Duchess sharing her new found wealth to a ‘sista’ Who could disagree that this is a logical answer? Both ladies would be happy - sharing is caring - and they could then be out of our terribly racist country….

[@kt7855]

I am a white woman have have experienced “racism”. It isn’t something only a person of color experiences. It’s a human condition and we try to find a reason to spread hate and disconnect discontent and victimhood.

[@leo83628]

Also as a white woman I've had racist abuse off the very people who shout the loudest!

[@sandraayres5106]

Exactly!! Thanks ma’am for pointing that out. Others think it’s only them who go through victimization but light skin and many others go through racism too. We don’t make a big fuss about it. 😊😊😊😊

[@bostonkittykatt]

That black woman doesn't understand the British people at all!!

[@Redpilled66]

That black woman has a name. She's lived in Britain since she was 5. She's British. She understands British people.

[@bostonkittykatt]

@@Redpilled66 and changed her name and outfit. She's a fraud.

[@bostonkittykatt]

@@Redpilled66 and always a victim it seems too.

[@trueblue6039]

@@Redpilled66 But if the money is right, she'll do what MM wants!

[@Redpilled66]

@@trueblue6039 Mmmm M&Ms aahhhh! 🤤

[@clairepamella6927]

I love this. The only show without hateful debating.

[@cynthiamorris1874]

I’m not 100% sure of that

[@MargaretWalkerCellist]

But WHY would the black woman on the panel wear chairs around her neck, unless she's looking for someone to SIT ON HER NECK? Odd.

[@Claire90409]

No, I dont think so. Catherine had a black midwife professor for all her births, the King got out of the car the other day with a royal aide who was black, I've seen video of the queen with two black staff members, Charles choosing and presenting an honour to a young black man, the list goes on. To say they're racist is ridiculous.

[@sharonsanderson5923]

Camilla stuck it out and she grew on them over the years. Camilla earned their respect over time.

[@rosehudson2957]

Who was an adulterer and a divorce . The second divorce after Wallis I believe. What did meghan do?

[@Lifetakerandeathtaker]

But Diana died cause of media Soooooo it can go either way

[@eldottydixon7537]

Who's the press?

[@janetmcgibney]

Camilla is friends with the two nasty man! Morgan & Clarkson. I bet she leaked a few stories

[@spirit5228]

Perhaps if the brf had worked with Meghan to educate/train her in her role and if they had protected her as they promised to do for her, she would have believed they cared about her. Instead, the brf sold her out to the royal rodents and expected her to stay at risk to herself and take it. No, that's not how it should work in a humane world. Meghan, Archie, Lili, and harry are human beings who demand to be treated as such, fairly. All the excuses for how they continue to be treated is bs.

[@agra3778]

Excuse me,,, the trainee refused to be trained. If i had an employee like that, i will certainly fire them.

[@katel7309]

She was a 40 year old adult not 20!!! They gave her every help but she refused a lot of it. She only has herself to blame. Most people would have accepted it. Prince Mary of Denmark is a good example of doing it right she also had to learn another language. The royal family didn't do anything she acted like a spoilt brat, total lack of respect for a different culture. Unwilling to adapt and accept the differences. Her US culture also conflicted with an institution of service and sacrifice, in the sense she coming from a very extreme capitalist nation was out to make money and get wealth and any fame that came with it. Say it came down to cultural differences and character flaws.

[@Athena_208]

@@katel7309 exactly 💯 People are treating Meghan as if she was a young naive woman. 🙄

[@jenjenjenny1982]

As black people we need to take our time and debate our point. Royalties in Nigeria haven’t been abolished. What’s the point in abolishing the British Royal ?? Let’s find a middle ground to improve systems within it and in Britain

[@Glaiket]

It’s pointless, drains public funds and doesn’t even have economic benefit anymore. It should die out. Aristocracy has no place in modern society. Sure let them keep their titles but we should not pay for billionaires to live while millions are starving.

[@KN-zm1rw]

Where is the middle ground on a playing field built on our exploitation

[@TheMagicJIZZ]

@@KN-zm1rw the kingdom of Benin was slavery and UK tried to end it but they attacked out diplomat's so we ended that kingdom

[@annstorey6573]

As Morgan Freeman says that the more people talk about racism, the more it will go on. There has been racism of the English, Welsh, Irish, & Scottish. It does go on, there is no denying it. There are anti- semitic people everywhere. People just need to respect one another and in an ideal world, there should be no difference with skin colour. We are all made special and no in- justice should go on at all.

[@elsietongdo3362]

I agree 👍 💯

[@doonewatts7155]

The media has ALWAYS built up the new members of the RF before knocking them down again. Meghan was not the first. I am not saying it is right it certainly is not but after time the media do move on. It would have been really interesting to hear specific examples of Kelishi's experiences

[@parisryan5950]

Meghan knocked herself down the moment she did the Oprah interview and told blatant lies on the world stage. She's her own worst enemy.

[@MariaRoseGonzalez]

I remember how the tabloids destroyed sarah,princess Ann, other members of the royal family, while Diana was the angel ,the perfect princess ,most beautiful woman,till she was caught in embarrassing situations with guys ,is when they started to criticized her, oh god ,that woman camilla how much hate ,dirty stories they wrote on daily bases,these tabloids don't have better celebrities to talk after the Beatles 🤔🤫😆 so they talk about the royal family members 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️after Diana die ,they started talking about Sophie of wessex ,Harry and william too,when Kate started dating william the same story .

[@Gatteleylife9957]

This is different!

[@doonewatts7155]

@@Gatteleylife9957 Why?

[@bluedancelilly]

It was FAR worse against Meghan. And very racist. And they didn't build her up at first st all. All the "straight outta comptom" trash.

[@cosandraodame7623]

It's important that black people talk during this conversation we understand more about race than they ever will

[@Sandra-vn3kn]

Absolutely

[@lucasevans3768]

They ???

[@SahuKONG]

Megan isn’t black

[@DP-ih6nt]

Megan is Biracial……same as Obama…..same as Hallie Berry……same as Tiger Woods. Why does everyone want to make them “black” just because they have some color? 🤷‍♀️

[@tbaby35]

Yes, indeed!

[@febe11111]

I really enjoyed this kind of conversation,I thank y’all for this well done discussion I could here a lot more of what is really happen with this couple without all the belittling and hatred .

[@bellaem6409]

What is Britain without the Monarchy? The Monarchy is a trademark and very proud we have the most famous Monarchy in the world.

[@parisryan5950]

A citizen of Canada here. The question is what is the common wealth without the monarchy?

[@johns1600]

It’s sad if that dumpster fire is the best thing about Britain!

[@marybrowne5247]

And what would the UK be without Scotland, Wales and N Ireland? I hope secession happens!

[@nomahope3182]

@@parisryan5950 What are the achievements of the Commonwealth? The organisation has some of the poorest people in the world but yet has done nothing for them.

[@powellp25]

Happy to have global colonial institution as your country's symbol?

[@pamelapowell8776]

Meghan Markle ISSUE She is off both colours not just one so let’s put that in context.

[@distinctiveelegance5947]

That is extremely offensive.

[@Kimllg88]

This Tessa woman is highly unpleasant

[@evertonwilson5186]

Really? Why? I thought she was very honest and opened in her remarks.

[@Kimllg88]

@@evertonwilson5186 talking over everyone, shouting, and did i say rude_

[@KarachiWaliInLondon]

Well I m from a common wealth country, colonised nation of Pakistan but recognise that, it was in the past - it was the way of life then, we can surely learn from it but can’t judge historical actions from todays standards. Britain and all its colonised nations are sovereign nations in their own rights now with the freedom to stay or leave the Common wealth which is a voluntary organisation of equal nations. I am a proud Brit and love Britain and all its values, customs, traditions and culture including our Royal Family, and I am not the only way, countless people feel the same, people who actually grew up in a former colonies. I can never understand people who grew up in this country enjoying all that it got to offer and still want to dismantle its proud customs and history - why such hatred. It’s beyond my comprehension!

[@courtneysylvester76]

I think Jenny is talking nonsense! What Meghan is most concerned about is the vitriol from the British media, the feeding of information from the palaces and the lack of protection the people who should have her welfare at heart. Meghan is an intelligent, articulate woman who is well educated. If she was given a chance, she would have fitted in perfectly.

[@AnT-wo3cb]

If she gave it a chance

[@courtneysylvester76]

@@AnT-wo3cb as I said, Meghan is intelligent and educated. She can tell when it's time to get out.

[@zenaidawalton982]

The Royal family and the monarchy should remain as it is , the traditions should remain.

[@nomahope3182]

It could be karma because the British went around destroying other people's traditions and killing their royals. What goes around comes around.

[@jossangeles4011]

I enjoyed this discussion. People disagree without attacking. I personally don't think Meghan is totally right and I don't think the monarchy is totally right. I think the lady in red has a good handle on the matter.

[@andreawannop8670]

Yeah...so she wasn't suited to the role. Simple as that.

[@Athena_208]

Agree

[@rebeccakofi-opata4359]

Mergan was by racial but was welcomed by the Queen, King Charles III and and all to the Monarchy. She just wanted her husband to be first. She doesn't wanted to respect any of the traditions of the firm. It is not right at all.

[@elizabetha.morris6661]

Dr. Tessa, how many PoC does Archewell employ? Answer: Not one.

[@kittygirl_thetortie498]

Criticising someone over their overspending, hypocrisy on carbon footprint, being rude to palace staffs, bad behaviour in australia and such is NOT racism. Period.

[@katel7309]

Exactly. I have said that racism has been misunderstood. And it gets thrown around for everything. Have a family chat about a a new baby and what they may look like is not racism. Many multi ethnic couples have conversations over this and don't slam the racist card.

[@florenceferdinand4717]

Where the proof

[@TIMB1222]

I recall a member of the family on the day of the wedding wearing a racist pin. It went downhill from there.

[@neuzapinheirotorres3940]

What's a racist pin?

[@lindaroane3344]

@@neuzapinheirotorres3940 She had on a black faced pin.

[@lindaroane3344]

TIMB1222: That was the Queens cousin wearing that pin.

[@brega6286]

Oh the Moor pin. Representing when the Moors and French and Spain (I think) made final peace.

[@fabiennemitchell2371]

@@neuzapinheirotorres3940 It was not a racist pin but people saw race not its history.

[@ficalli4743]

The racist is Megan, where was and is, her black family at the wedding or anywhere else?

[@Oshunsprite]

I really enjoyed that conversation and so well managed by the presenter. Love Kelechi's neck choker. Exquisite. Everyone made excellent points and eloquently. I was reminded of how utterly barbaric Piers Morgan was about Meghan and he certainly does represent the right-wing press. Absolute monster about her and was allowed to continue with his relentless bullying of her in the media.

[@Sssssssslf]

😂😂😂

[@keithgiblin2636]

Oh please.

[@Oshunsprite]

@@Sssssssslf 🤣😂😄

[@marybrowne5247]

I absolutely despise Piers Morgan and the other hater Neil Sean

[@rosehudson2957]

@@marybrowne5247 me too. I heard recently that christiano Ronaldo took out a restraining order on pierce Morgan allegedly?

[@sandrawilliams1849]

This conversation is simply bias. Why does Megan have to be the person to place blame on for a truly racist country.

[@jarma52]

Trevor interrupted all the time the ladies. It’s very sad!

[@frenetic1057]

Unfortunately there is a time limit

[@ilraaijm]

So actually it wasn’t like that at all Harry says the royals are not racist…. So?

[@ClaudetteLals]

Good conversation. Refreshing and not one sided.

[@gracenabulo9701]

This black woman is not well informed, the Commonwealth does so much for the commonwealth countries in terms of scholarships. Do these women think abolishing the Commonwealth would benefit such countries

[@margaretlance2025]

I really dislike this debate. I am black but I learn and continue to learn daily.

[@keithgiblin2636]

Me too! What is going on?? Ridiculous!

[@pamelalalaable]

The press got behind Camilla - and also Catherine to a slightly lesser degree - because of her behaviour and hard work and dedication to the Monarchy. The press DIDN’T get behind Meghan because of HER behaviour - certainly not because of her hard work; she did nothing but whinge and made a no attempt to to understand how the Monarchy works. She then went on to tell provable lies about so many things. Are the press supposed to ignore these lies?

[@T.C556]

@@pamelalalaable headlines like ‘ almost straight out of Compton’ and the caricature of her newborn as a chimp had nothing to do with her biracial heritage??? Please explain

[@suegroizard415]

@@T.C556 the comment straight out of Compton was reported by an American reporter not british, and the nasty comment about the chimp, was made by a very stupid broadcaster who has since lost his job and career,

[@T.C556]

@@suegroizard415 the ‘straight outta Compton’ headline was quoted in British media even if it originated in America. The ‘nasty man’ who lost his job over his ‘royal chimp’ tweet was part of British media (BBC). My point being that Megan’s race is most definitely part of the reason she is mistreated and maligned. She may very well may be an unpalatable individual but there is undeniably a racial element to her mistreatment.

[@Selfless237]

There are tribes in Nigeria who “colonized” other tribes are we not living in peace today???? What is this thing ….. if every oppressor in the past is to pay up where will it end? With the Catholic Church ????

[@cathm3488]

Show love not hate Leave others to enjoy their life's🙏🏾👑🔥💖🥰

[@patsimpson7834]

I hope that is addressed to Harry and Meghan.

[@elsietongdo3362]

I agree 👍 💯

[@kimhughes5030]

That’s gotta go both ways for it to work. Just saying.

[@lelas4347]

#lives# 🤍

[@Summer_Sunset15]

Well said!

[@dianasmarttech123]

I'm sick to see people trying to make excuses to not admit it was Racism. Megan had no problem to adapt to cerimony and monarky stuffs. She just show how they talk about "Commonwealth" but in reality do not want to mix with color people. That is the True. And the problem is not just the real family, is the fact that Conservative and Right wing supporter have those thoughts.

[@Eusantdac]

The monarchy which was involved in the slave trade racist? Who would have thought?

[@reinadeelsur]

The same one that ended it

[@Romdormer]

I dont think these guys are THAT old!

[@ada-kayawalkerkeshaparsons7208]

@@reinadeelsur when did it end? And for who?

[@ada-kayawalkerkeshaparsons7208]

@@Romdormer learn history 😒

[@dub604]

@@ada-kayawalkerkeshaparsons7208 If there's one group of people in the world that don't understand British history it's the British Kesha, strange but true.

[@hellencook6868]

It happens to ALL black British women where’s that panellist getting her facts btw I’m a traveler and all I ever knew was we were different and treated appallingly we still are and it’s open discrimination just because we’re travelling/gypsy people

[@mogznwaz]

Travellers are treated with suspicion and dislike because of the mess, crime and antisocial behaviour they take with them whatever they go.

[@skygazer6898]

@@mogznwaz Well said, and so true..

[@audreybunyan1493]

Absolutely NOT. I don’t believe it for one second !!

[@cherieestbien1902]

There's a possibility Harry also wanted out. It wasn't only Megan.

[@minervaverdant1380]

I agree he wanted it. Harry reminds me of his mother Princess Diana .

[@nomahope3182]

I remember reading somewhere several years ago that Harry wanted to leave the UK and move to Africa permanently. It was the time when he was dating Chelsy Davy. He always wanted out. He just didn't get anyone to support his decision. Then along came Meghan, of course, he didn't end up in Africa but in sunny California.

[@cherieestbien1902]

@@nomahope3182 yes....I recall reading the same thing. ....it was in all the tabloids when he was dating Chelsey....

[@bubble6853]

Let's start using the word bully... Bullying that can then define a much bigger spectrum or is racism something that only happens to certain people.... because if that's the case a lot of bullying has been going on between certain cultures and people of all ages these two people need to get a grip and take a look at themselves in one of their 16bathroom mirrors and think how lucky they actually are.... Totally disgusting people

[@Sunrise9696-v2z]

It is a personal perception

[@meghanwilliams7507]

#Downwiththemonarchy

[@fionawinderam5703]

Prince Harry says "the women who marry into the institution have a hard time," In my opinion implying that his mother was a victim. He forgets his mother was very much an insider, and in many opinions much more Royal than the RF.

[@trueblue6039]

His Mother was "the world's Princess", she was LOVED all over and is still sadly missed. As for MM, she's just one disgusting foul mouthed despicable person destroying his life. Still trying to bring down the House of Windsor!

[@katel7309]

Yeh, his mother wasn't a victim. She also new the royal family in her teens ? childhood. One of her sister's dated Prince Charles in the 1970's. Hundreds of marriages don't work out, just the royal family is soooooo public.

[@bettywallace8820]

The most pronounced racial aspect of the Harry-Meghan wedding were the astonished skeptical facial expressions of the royals during the black minister's ceremony and the black choral music.

[@22yardsofficial23]

There is no such thing as black music

[@lynetteguest1598]

Because he was allowed 10 minutes not half an hour they were waiting for him to stop. No other reason. So no racism

[@charlesfarley4438]

It was such a departure from the very proper and structured ceremonies that were used to.

[@lynetteguest1598]

That was because her minister was supposed to have 10 minutes to say his pease not half an hour there was nothing racist about it. Charles put the choir together who were black. One from every choir across the UK. So it was well thought out

[@great8413]

Because the pastor's sermon was awful and ridiculous especially for an Anglican pastor. Long and rambling

[@ricardorussell6046]

Didn't one of them ask "What colour will the baby be. "

[@Lioness_UTV]

In my opinion it was the Oprah interview where public opinion started to turn. They are also making a lot of assumptions about Meghan and her motives whether completely earnest, or not or even somewhere in-between. In listening to all the back and forth it feels like people are trying to tie this perfect bow around Meghan and racism; around racism and the press. She isn't 100% right about Camilla. The people started to soften in their views of Camilla as she had been a solid, no drama, discreet and the obvious loyal and in love with Charles. It wasn't the tabs. Btw this was a very good humoured thoughtful discussion. I appreciated hearing the point of views. Correction: the Commonwealth again is misunderstood by these ppl. It's so frustrating.

[@marianwrench1433]

Good statement! 😊

[@nubianqueen4375]

No it was not the Oprah interview. They quit being senior working royals before that. Focus on the reason why they quit

[@nubianqueen4375]

@@a81758 the royals will bring themselves down. They must accept change. Meghan wearing a crown long back explains nothing. Most girls played princess or mother roll with friends

[@denisemarcus5633]

Why did they have to leave? Oprah was AFTER they left, not BEFORE!

[@Lioness_UTV]

@@nubianqueen4375 I am aware, I was talking about when public opinion really started to turn. I thonk inhave a good sense of their reasons. No one really knows the truth though as the RF haven't had a chance to give their POV. Regardless their reasons were many it seemed and frankly it felt like they wanted star billing, one foot in and out so the best of all worlds. I can sympathize with how they must have felt because royal life is constraining on many fronts. Obviously there are nuances in-between but there was no racism in my opinion, if so where was it? If they were really interested in staying they would have waited until M really knew the job and then she and Harry could have gone to Charles with ideas. But the truth is they wanted out from early on and that's fine. I do have a sneaky suspicion that they thought the RF, the Queen wld cave and give them what they wanted... Just a suspicion nothing concrete to base it on. btw what Harry forgot in the series was that yes, their Aus and SA tour was successful BUT so was William and Catherine's who had baby George with tbem. So no nose was out of joint, H&M weren't doing it better or outshining anyone, nor wld the RF have cared about M being on the front cover for Remembrance Day - Catherine was on the previous years. Its a bit bizarre that Harry keeps linking Diana with Meghan. And I think he was doing the same with the Aus tour. He was projecting jealousy in William and Catheine as if they were Charles who had been overtaken by his wife's popularity...its just a bit odd is all. But maybe there will be a deeper understanding when H's book comes out.

[@lindaolsen7089]

Great presenter keeping the discussion moving, balanced and giving all a chance to talk, as well as asking his direct and pertinent questions. He stayed on topic and so did the guests. Very respectful and enlightening, especially in regards to not getting hung up on the Sussexes. Great point!

[@cocopundugu8588]

A nominal black man on Prince Charles’s board - he was definitely biased against Meghan. Shame on him

[@annanguyen345]

Not all black people or person of color are on Megan side, we see bullshit too

[@islandgirlcoler7849]

@@cocopundugu8588 I did see that he favored the side of the woman on the big screen who was also favoring the RF.

[@86Eve]

@@cocopundugu8588 He used to be the head of the Commission for Racial Equality, but he has some incredibly bigoted views. He is deeply islamophobic and makes no secret of that.

[@lexiebear55]

This is BS look at her life history, her previous marriage, dumped her family, she is a narcissist, stop talking about her

[@salnaka6674]

The only channel that is balanced regarding the M&H documentary

[@lizwint-swaby9307]

As black woman I don't agree with these two woman she coming into the royalfamily to get what she could get markel is one that racist

[@flamani54]

Given the history of Great Britain, I am sure there is racism in the Royal family and in England. What I am not sure about is why Meghan Markle went into it given her own political activism. So, to me, it looks like she has an agenda from the beginning. I agree with Ms. Okafor's characterization of Britain as a depraved country when it comes to wanting to dominate the rest. She shares that ambition with her sister nation and depending on the circumstances, enemy France. Both countries managed, breaking the law, to put military and dynastic dictatorship in Togo, as it is called now. The fact that the regime has been killing its citizen for about 60 years had not deterred Great Britain from welcoming Togo and its leaders into the Commonwealth. Talk about depravity?!

[@marybrowne5247]

Hear, hear!

[@carolynboyce3857]

The tides turned after the Australian Tour, when the crowds of people were cheering them, after the family realized that they were becoming more popular than the future heirs. Jealousy engulfed the whole institution, the attacks started and they tried to silenced them by trying to destroyed their characters so that no one would want to work with them.

[@margi6035]

Carolyn Boyce . What a unwanted comment. She burnt a staff member of Government House. She told the Governor General and his wife that they wanted the residence to themselves and would they leave. She yelled at the staff and told the Governor General’s wife to shut up, when hearing they would not move or give her more room in the house. The burnt staff member was paid a large sum to keep the matter quiet to save Megan’s reputation. The busy guards were finding Megan difficult to look after and she was belligerent towards them. Some outings she refused to go on. Sounds likes she was always a Diva.

[@agra3778]

Jealous? Really? For what???

[@katel7309]

Popular / jealous thing...as an Australian I think those concepts are a load of rubbish, my opinion. Meghan did not want the life of a royal of service and sacrifice and rules and have limits on what she could decide and control. She was not made to be a royal she should have stayed in the US and found a rich family to marry into that would give her the platform to be the center of attention, but also fulfil her ambitions. The royal household was not the right place.

[@brendanorris9944]

If they have truthfully been treated badly then they should truthfully name the person 🤔

[@Sandra-vn3kn]

Absolutely

[@nomahope3182]

Wait for the book. All will be revealed there.