Communication Coach Reacts to Seventeen, TXT, Enhypen & More (EP 3-2)

[@maxpbeaumont]

Thanks for pushing me to check this series out! You can check out all my uncut Game Caterer reactions here: www.patreon.com/maxbeaumont

[@isabellereffas3679]

If you wanna watch a similar type of event where different Kpop bands compete in a sports event, you should check ep 6 of Kingdom the legendary War. There you have Ateez, Stray Kids, SF9, The Boyz, BtoB and Ikon being gathered in two opposite teams. The cheers are genuine and it's a great ep where idols from different companies show their friendship and their compatibility. I really enjoyed your game caterers video so I hope you'll do something similar again. Thanks

[@HijiyamasYakisobaPan]

can you check out an en o clock episode?

[@bamsdandelion6272]

this is really unrelated but you should check out a kband called "the rose" it would be really interesting to hear about their communication skills!!

[@alistamizhia2198]

TXT are very very close group, their debut got delayed so they’ve been together for 8yrs now (including the Pre debut trainee days) and yes their personality are very different but they are so close, they are genuinely a group of friends who somehow in the same group

[@xoluciaxo_3721]

I just looked on your patreon but it seems you missed the second episode? I can only find, 1-1, 3-1 and 3-2. Episode 2 is missing

[@scintillakoo]

i actually think that the fact that every member of txt is so different is what makes them so special. their bond is something else. they fit like puzzle pieces and compliment eachother so well. if you delve into their dynamics a bit further, between every pair/trio, you will see just how close they are and how much they genuinely love eachother, it’s really heartwarming honestly.

[@fatihahridi]

yes this!

[@maxpbeaumont]

I believe it. Maybe I will!

[@sakee21]

Agree. It's really amazing for me how well txt are very close despite all 5 of them having different personalities.. It reminds me of that video of a fortune teller who said they have great chemistry with each other or something like that.

[@nonamegee326]

For real!

[@avadorable_]

I agree, they’re meant to each other!

[@jadev164]

I see people commenting that Seventeen is closer because they're a senior group and have been together longer but that's not the only reason. Seventeen's bond is really unique even among senior groups. They just have this warm, open, supportive and loving dynamic to them. I think the Seventeen members in general have a lot of love to give, and they've found the perfect recipient for this love in each other. Their fondness and admiration for each other just shines through.

[@jadou34]

Exactly. Even when they had just debuted, you could see how well they bounced off of each other and how open, supportive and communicative they were. They obviously just have natural chemistry but it's also something they actively worked on, not just something that came with time like other people are suggesting. They themselves made the decision to hold nightly meetings to iron out the day's differences during their debut, even if they only got 2h of sleep due to it. They themselves make a conscious effort to include the introverted members in discussions and activities and to regularly cue them just in case they have something to say. To respect each other's boundaries and preferences and never take things too far when they roast each other. To get everyone's input on anything they do (music, concepts, stages etc) despite how hard it is to reach a compromise between 13 people, and sometimes to let a member execute his idea even if they're not convinced by it, because it's particularly important to that member. Such a dynamic takes an active effort and a great deal of communication and understanding to built and maintain, especially when you have 13 strong personalities to accomodate. And Seventeen sticks to it because they love each other and want to treasure each other.

[@CopperCassie]

As a Kpop fan since ‘08 I have seen many groups come and go. SVT’s senior status is not as important as the fact they have have good communications, and their personalities work together as a team. They balance each other out. They make effort to learn to work as a team and be tolerate of one another.

[@kdprincess4853]

True...and they prove that so many times in their shows but i really want everyone to watch seventeen in the soop season 2.. i just fall inlove all over again with seventeen when i watched it..

[@junpi8562]

A small other factor is that they never had to see each other as rivals. As trainees they always knew they would debut together, no-one was going to be cut as long as they kept up with training. That probably helped them bond early, even though they had a lot of stress.

[@El-vq8tx]

I think Seventeen and TXT have one of the closest bonds in kpop in general. Don’t even get started on Seventeen and their devotion rings that they’ve had since before debut. For TXT even though they debuted only 3 years ago and have such different personalities they’re very close like not only as a collective but like every single member is extremely close with the other 4 and have their own unique dynamic with them. I think because each person is so different, the way they interact with each other as pairs is also really special. Like the dynamic that Yeonjun has with Taehyun is soooo different from the one he has with Beomgyu, it’s just something I’ve noticed with them. Their chemistry as a group very good and their differences just click and work together, so I think it’s one of their biggest strengths. Some moas joke that this is the only universe where TXT could have formed because of the peculiar ways they joined the company and because none of them really became friends with each other until the debut team was confirmed. Other than Yeonjun and Taehyun (who had many disagreements with each other but became close because they were the only two trainees that were sent to train in the U.S.) and Soobin and Hyuka (who just kind of latched on to each other as soon as they met and didn’t make other friends). Beomgyu was put on the debut team as soon as he joined the company. Thankfully they trained together for 2 years together as a group before their debut so they became very close in that time as a team.

[@nonamegee326]

I think Soobin and Hueningkai were friends before they were put together in the debut team, but overall, yes I agree! They have such a special friendship

[@El-vq8tx]

@@nonamegee326 Yeah! that's why I said other than Yeonjun and Taehyun & Soobin and Hyuka

[@palidongre6710]

i totally agree

[@kvid4477]

Also, Taehyun and Beomgyu are really close too since they went to school with each other everyday back in highschool.

[@armymoaengenecarat5955]

What makes TXT stand out amongst other groups is that as a team, they are one. But if look at them individually, they are all so strong in terms of personality and skills. Truly 4th gen leaders.

[@shirzk161]

Because I'm a carat, I will 100% say that SVT has the truest and strongest bond that I have seen so far in k-pop! It is so difficult to have 13 people who get along so well. They do it only because of the respect and love they have for each other. But I do know that TXT members are super super close as well. I guess the difference is that TXT is a newer group. Once they spend more time together and work together, it's only going to get stronger!

[@Samraaaa2]

TXT get so much more interesting the more i get into them, each dynamic within the group and their individual vibe is so unique to and there are layers to it as well but despite this they all get along so well its really fun to see and relatable too

[@user-qg1hi6yy1d]

I agree seventeen definitely has a really special bond! Also i think the fact that the txt members have such different personalities is what makes them so entertaining, they remind me of young seventeen with their variety show skills and their group dynamics flow so well. Also enhypen is a relatively newer group and they were formed through a survival show so it makes sense to why they may not be close? Not saying they aren't close btw.

[@april_showers14]

I think for the enhypen members... its just how they are. Its been 2 years since their show ended and some of the members were trainees together even before that. People forget that. They're close but it sometimes doesn't come across that way in public settings because they're shy. Ask fans and they will tell you how close they are.

[@user-qg1hi6yy1d]

@@april_showers14 i definitely agree, it wasn't my intention to make them seem like they weren't close. also i totally understand how the way they act on camera 100% doesn't reflect their relationship. This goes for all the groups as well. Thank you for correcting me!

[@isabellereffas3679]

@@user-qg1hi6yy1d I agree with your assessment and Enhypen is a group full of introverts that does not help them be confident in front of cameras (even if they are getting a lot better).

[@heyitsmira17]

All groups go through a survival-ish process before debut tbh. You're close to someone, but then that person is dropped by the company, and someone else is chosen to debut with you. And then suddenly the person you spent years seeing as a rival has to become your family.... it's hard. But going through survival shows where the public ranks everyone does make things harder. It takes some time for certain groups to properly align, but it is possible as long as they have a good leader and members who respect one another.

[@lumany5372]

@@heyitsmira17 yeah usually it is like that and that is also part of the reason why I Svt bond is so special because they were set to debut 2013 and were told they were going to debut together but their debut got postponed continuously So for them they weren’t competition as trainees because they knew if they will ever be able to debut, then they debut together!

[@maggi506]

TXT are really close, I like their dynamic cause they are all so different and they respect that a lot. Plus, they aren’t afraid to express their emotions towards each other. They will always help, comfort or praise any member and it’s really beautiful to see

[@baakojernigan7095]

I mean svt have spent almost half of their lives together, at this point they're family and it would be weird if they weren't close. I also think something that makes them stand out is their honesty and transparency about their relationships with each other and the times they've fought and grown from that to us and even to each other they don't hide how they feel and express their opinions clearly... like that's cool to me and I wanna be like that and form relationships like that too

[@tt311]

I’m sure Sunghoon was shaking on the inside when Seungkwan suddenly called him up to interview the finalists😂 He’s an introvert & he struggled with social anxiety earlier in his life which is very apparent in the way he acts around strangers. As Seungkwan pointed out he’s very shy around ppl he don’t know well. He challenged himself to become the host of Music Bank to improve his public speaking, which I find very admirable. As someone who’s followed him from the beginning, he has improved a lot!

[@tomileo99]

Seventeen is just a band of brothers. Their connection is incredible! I love them.

[@jadou34]

Yes, Seventeen's bond is truly special. They've consciously worked on their teamwork and have built one of the healthiest group dynamic I've ever seen, not only in Kpop but in real life too. They're extremely supportive and communicative, and respectful of each other's boundaries and individuality while all still working towards the same goal. I thinl what helped with that is how long they trained together as a team before debuting. Most kpop groups only get put together a few months before debut, and there's a lot of competition between trainees to get a place in the final lineup which inevitable carries over. Whereas Seventeen was planned to debut in 2013, then saw their debut get pushed multiple times due to their agency's financial troubles, before finally debuting in 2015. So they had 2 full years of struggling together towards the same goal (debuting all together) and that really strengthened their bond.

[@ellam464]

Honestly after watching this I really do want to get into Seventeen but as of right now I can only speak on TXT’s dynamic which for me they have such a comforting aura about them. A perfect moment to describe them is in a cooking episode of their show TO DO when Huening Kai spills some of the broth they’re making and the other TXT members tease him saying that he should just sit there and not cook but as soon as they all laugh about it they make sure to reassure Kai that it was okay and that it could’ve happened to anyone. Moments like these always stand out to me as I’ve watched many other groups take jokes too far but TXT seem to be very mindful of having fun while not making anyone feel bad or like the butt of the joke. This kind of judgement free attitude they have always makes me as a viewer feel very welcomed which is such a nice feeling to get by the people you look up to!

[@easycomeeasygoes6598]

I stan groups from 2nd and 3rd gen but I can say that Seventeen have the strongest bond as the biggest group. Don't talk about their seniority cause many can't survive even after spending years together. Seventeen have 13 members and what made them stronger is their honesty, endurance, patience and love for each other. I watch them (and many other idols) grow and I know their love for each other is so genuine.

[@hudafatima2564]

The fact that since seventeen's pre debut period we see the boys be very close to each other. Them fighting with each other, running behind with a guitar, and completely being themselves just proves their bond since day one has been unmatched and just has grown over the years

[@riyabiya4]

i know svt and txt the most out of all the groups here and i think they've both got really strong bonds. i think the amount of members makes a difference here. the fact that svt has so many members and thus so many opportunities for misunderstands or conflict, they sort of had to build their dynamic to be honest, transparent and strong from the very beginning. it's easier in a way for them to have some issues amongst them and so they spent so many years learning each other. and they've been with each other for over 7 years, for some members including their trainee years it's like 10 years. with txt, they've still been around each other for a while but it's been 3 years since they debuted. they're definitely close but there could still be more to learn about each other and it's easier to have alone time in a group of 5 than in a group of 13.

[@lumany5372]

I saw a lot of people saying that Svt are closer because they made their debut earlier but in my opinion their relationship is not something that simply comes with time but is also about what they went through together because unlike other groups they spend years together training without being competition because their debut was originally supposed to be in 2013 but it got postponed continuously because the company was broke So their question was not: Will I be able to debut? But: Will we be able to debut? And even after debut they had to do everything themselves… the music, the choreography and even promoting themselves (Seungkwan played a very big part in promoting Svt in their earlier days) and because they had zero support outside of their team they had no choice but to rely on each other

[@justmesuri4311]

yes. They always 'WE' in every questions or sentences coz they are WE. Not ME or I.

[@ilovetxt]

Just like everyone is saying, all of the TXT members have very different personalities yet they're so close with each other. They understand each other and respect each others opinions which is what i like about them. Though they joke around a lot, they know each others limits so they stop before the other gets offended or reassure and give comfort w/o hesitation to make sure they're okay. Soobin has also always said that they have group meetings all the time where they let out anything thats on their mind and they all find a solution together. And they don't hold themselves back from pointing out something they think is wrong, they're just so real for that. They're also not afraid to show affection whether its on or off cam and its just so endearing to see the amount of love they have for each other, they call themselves a family. It would be nice to see you react more to txt videos about their dynamics and personalities, theres a lot of videos on that. Enjoyed your reaction, hope to see more of TXT!!💗💗

[@mehismaknae2769]

Jeonghan wasn't there cause they putting him and beomgyu together for games is basically the perfect recipe for disaster lmao

[@Sunset553]

lol when did that happen, i want to see!

[@mehismaknae2769]

@@Sunset553 itdidn't but what i'm saying is they didn't do it because it can. Jeonghan can outwit every person who was present in this video and beomgyu doesn't pln a lot n does whimsical things but he execytes cheating perfectly meaning a perfect puppet for jeonghan to execute his plans through w/o both of them getting caught.

[@Sunset553]

@@mehismaknae2769 Then it needs to happen!

[@mehismaknae2769]

@@Sunset553 IKR! that ep would be so jsjsejbsjebcshne

[@sakee21]

Oh yes definitely

[@ohmydwcifihitprettyu]

I agree ~ SEVENTEEN has a special bond. A lot of (multi-stan) reactors noticed that they just have that unwavering bond (not that other groups aren't close but SVT is just different). They've been through thick and thin. They're very open, fought a lot, but still understand & respect each other's differences.

[@heyitsmira17]

One of the things I found really lovely in this episode was Seventeen getting together and then immediately embracing Minhyun and Baekho. NU'EST was always their sunbae group that they looked up to (+ some SVT members trained together witht them and almost debuted in NU'EST), so now that both are soloists (was a very recent thing by the time they recorded this), it must've felt a bit lonely, so they just naturally went to make them feel included too.

[@MsSaby97]

I think when they debuted plays a huge part in how they present themselfs. Lee Hyun debuted first, Minhyuk and Baekho debuted in 2012 (some SVT members were actually in their music video as trainees), SVT in 2015, Fromis_9 in 2017, TXT in 2019, Enhypen in 2020 and LeSeraffin in 2022. So yeah I think SVT and Nue'st members are the closest for the simple fact that they have literally known each other for a decade, while other groups are still growing and getting to know each other.

[@mehismaknae2769]

*le sserafim

[@saffronlemonious5207]

Totally agree

[@rashmipatir3122]

Svt have been engaged with each other since their debut. It is wrong to say that they are close just because they have stayed longer together when they have been this close with each other since their predebut and haven't change after being with each other this long talk a lot about their dynamics and the work they put in their relationship.

[@heyitsmira17]

Even more than just being on their music video, Coups and Woozi were supposed to debut in NUEST lol but I'm glad things happened the way they did. And honestly, while being a sunbae does give you a bit more confidence to speak your mind, I fear that it could also make you feel like there's a gap between you and newer groups (who you're not close with). SVT was the luckiest in that scenario bc they have members who are close to at least one of each group that went to that picnic. So less chances of being awkward (there's also the fact that they are kinda shameless lol)

[@strayteez]

Ah fromis_9 officially debuted in 2018! On the 24th January. They had pre-debut performances as part of Idol School (2017 MAMA + 1 musicbank) but they're considered active after their official debut :))

[@lapillity]

100% i think seventeen have the closest bond I've seen in kpop. there are a lot of groups i genuinely believe are good friends like txt, etc. but i think seventeen's bond is on a different level. compared to the other hybe groups in this video, they've been together the longest, so that might be part of it. but i also think seventeen are really conscious of their own words and actions and how that affects or reflects on the other members, which has helped them form a really close bond over the years they've talked about how in their earlier years they made a point to sit down and talk every day, no matter how tired they were, about their feelings and any concerns they had. they knew that with a lot of members it would be easy for miscommunications to occur or for negative feelings to fester, so they took an active effort to combat that. these days they don't have a strict schedule for talking, but they really developed their communication skills and use them to this day. they have a lot of emotional intelligence which is really admirable and makes it fun to watch them

[@yeonbibi191]

Being the closest, for me SVT and TXT stands out. Also I love how you also mentioned about Taehyun being the person to go to and depend on, he is there when we need him. He's such a hard working person, this goes the same to all txt members too. And yes, txt are really distinctive with each other, I remember a trainee asked them how they show their own color within the group and that fans love them for that, and the members answered that the trainess shouldn't burden themselves with establishing their own persona, but just let thing flow naturally and their own colors will shine. I love them so much I really love the ones who give us this content

[@chloconut7433]

Seventeen is definitely the closest, they’ve been together the longest and they also went through some real hardships together that brought them much closer, and it shows in the way they care for and interact with each other

[@minbeomu]

I love how you said Taehyun gets enamored at people because he totally does. He looks at his members with such stars in his eyes, he loves watching them. So seeing him like this to others only proves how genuine he is at everything he does. Ahhhhh I love him.

[@pantattown7421]

I personally think seventeen’s special bond can be attributed to the fact that they basically grew up with each other from teenage to adulthood and went through so many difficulties together before actually debuting, and then coupled with the 7 years they’ve been together as an official group, they’re definitely really comfortable with each other at this point! I sometimes like to think of them as a bunch of best friends who met in middle school who work together and make cool music

[@abbysmith5821]

Max! Please watch the Going Seventeen “Carnival” episode :-) It’s their first “ruined” going seventeen episode and it’s so fun to see how they interact with each other as they realize the episode isn’t going as planned 😂. They have so many funny moments riffing with their staff too.

[@strgrlcrwy]

I like how you can watch these videos and pull out such interest readings of people who are just there playing games :) I've been into a lot of groups and SVT does seem to have one of if not the closest bonds in Kpop! It was weird to get into them and then go back and watch videos of other groups I love, who suddenly just seemed like friendly coworkers compared to SVT who are all like best friends. Seungkwan seriously amazes me, I wish I could be like him. So witty, so fun, and so confident. Crazy.

[@maxpbeaumont]

Thanks for the comment, Salem! Yes, Seungkwan is amazing.

[@WooziYoongi123]

As far as I have seen Seventeen have the one of the closest bonds if not the closest in whole kpop. I think this comes from the fact that they actually struggled a lot at their debut time. Most of them were really young and grew supporting each other and they had to train for almost 2 years hearing that they will debut next month. They overcame all that emotional turmoil and stick together and came this far. They only had each other to understand and push forward. So they treat each other like more than family

[@minbeomu]

AHH!! I remember a specific moment that is so common amongst the TXT members! Its something Soobin does the most that the members have adopted as well. Its saying “It can happen!” I’ve noticed this a lot when something goes wrong. It particularly means a lot more knowing Soobin says it the most. He is literally a strong leader, he makes sure to listen to every member and reassure them that its ok, that it can happen.! Idk how to explain this but once you see it, its hard to not notice. Its so pure and endearing idk.

[@AraMila]

I would say seventeen is probably the closest group in the groups present for the games cause they have been together for a longer time than the rest, like Le sserafim aren’t even a one year old group and the others are also new groups so they probably haven’t had the chance to be really experiencing the thick and thin together yet. Also seventeen have had a rather rough journey and those hardships have made them closer.

[@fatihahridi]

I actually hope you would dive deeper into txt, their bond is so special, I love their dynamic with each other and with other people.

[@sakee21]

I can't say much about the other groups because I don't follow them as closely, but I can agree that SEVENTEEN do have a special bond with one another. It's one thing that probably got me into them because you can definitely see how the members care and respect each other. I've also noticed that they're very honest and raw to one another as they're comfortable with teasing and roasting esp. in Going Seventeen. Hoshi also once mentioned on Youngji's show that there's no lie on how close they are, but they still found renewing the contract to be difficult because they have to consider and respect the sides of each other. TXT as well are veeery close and for me their close bond became more obvious recently around TCC: Freeze era where they seem more confident and more open/honest about stuff, but around their earlier years (even pre-debut) they were already close. I think they also became more savage (I guess) compared to when they first debuted. TXT also very much cares and respects one another so despite having different personalities (like Soobin and Huening Kai are more on the introverted side compared to Beomgyu/Yeonjun who're more on the outgoing side and Taehyun is kinda like in the middle) they give me the feeling of a balanced group with a very good chemistry. I think a good show to see TXT's rawness and bond are the behind episode thingies from KBS Kpop during every comeback (like this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpyTkmmmhrxgeNU). So I think for SEVENTEEN their bond is already strong and established and still continues to be so, while TXT's is an ongoing progress that's definitely growing stronger as they continue as a group.

[@starsxcore]

Seventeen's bond is truly something special. They mentioned before that they aren't just like a family, but they truly are family. The transparency they have between members and how honest they are to each other is beautiful. They're so close that they call each other's family as their own. To have a group with so many members and stay together this long in the industry without anyone leaving, that's love. I remember in their 7 year anniversary video, the one thing that they're proud never changed is the fact that they still have all 13 members. "The members? I love them. Of course, they're the closest, most precious. Some say you've succeeded in life If you have 2-3 really good friends, but I already have 12 of them." - Jeonghan

[@leejinkijjang]

Yes, definitely can see how close the bond of Seventeen is. Most people that I've seen after observing Seventeen for a bit all says that they just have the aura of closeness that is a bit different than other group. I guess it was because of how they grow up with each other since their teens. Had their fights and reconciliation way longer in their training days that makes them ever more closer I guess. Through conflict and reflections that I think people gets closer so much more. Thank you for your analysis of the people in Hybe.

[@khair3598]

Having being a Kpop fan since 2nd gen, i have to say Seventeen have the closest and best bond i have seen, especially because each member are close with the other and have their own dynamic, rather than few being closer than others, they all are close with each member, also their group/family rings they all wear from the start is another proof of their bond, they call the rings their 'family certificate'.

[@allybeary]

the part where you said the le sserafim girl (huh yunjin) was killing it, she was dancing to her own recently released debut song! I love that moment and it's rly funny cos she was dancing to a diff song at first but seungkwan for some reason (I think he noticed it was the same beat and/or that she didn't rly know the choreo to that other song) started singing her song. so he was like both teasing her but also doing so in a way that allowed her to show off her talents. and she very quickly caught on to the joke and danced the choreo for her song (and did a great job). it was soooo quick from both of them and they played off each other really well, they're both great!

[@dydb3]

I agree, it was my favourite moment :)

[@heyitsmira17]

Both songs have the same bpm! So it became an opportunity for Yunjin to show off her skills as well as be funny lol

[@sleepines]

well i mean txt is so close that they even shower together xD admitted by soobin i think, in a radio show with...enhypen? xD

[@moonchild4338]

I love how you can remember all their names 💜

[@gabinqueens]

I just love that even outside of their careers as idols, SEVENTEEN is close to one another to the point that one member would hang out with another member's parents without them knowing. Even their parents would take care of the nonKorean members because their parents are abroad. I also think in order for KPOP groups to succeed and remain in the industry, they have to have a very good dynamics and a level of respect for one other. This kind of career transcends what is usually asked for in a job, because they had to literally live together and fail and grow together. So to answer your question, yes, SEVENTEEN. Also, Seungkwan joked about being in a 'business' relationship with SVT members in the first episode. Yet, the other members know Seungkwan's tendency to put humor and the show first, so they just laugh it off or doubles it with another joke. I feel like they are already connected in a spiritual level.

[@dreseventeen8443]

you have to check SEVENTEEN pre-debut videos. their bond is like they know since the pre-school

[@loveade9732]

Yes mingyu actually has the same personality as seungkwan and they're always got paired whenever they go to variety shows

[@villainsoup]

Soobin love fest for sure, he’s so easy to like. This just reminded me that Soobin was the MC for music bank for a while, and it’d be cool for you to see how he operated as an MC! Everyone loved him, and he gave everyone a sincere and warm interview. It was really nice to see him interact with other idols, both younger and older than him! :D

[@kitl8081]

I’d say Seventeen, TXT and Le Serafim have the best bond. Seventeen are obviously industry veterans and with that comes a lot of trust and love, but also I’ve noticed they’re especially outgoing with their love. Definitely a force. Txt, are all so different but they’re all on the same page and have a sort of brotherly relationship where they can tease and compete with each other but I feel are really united together with respect and love. Finally even though lesserafim is a rookie group I get a really strong energy from the girls. They all encourage each other so much and I think you can tell they’re genuinely having fun together on stage which I think is a testament to the bond the girls have

[@sheebas1249]

I actually made seventeen my ult because of their friendship apart from their crazy talents

[@minbeomu]

Soobin is just so charming and lovable T^T Our charismatic leader!

[@rfauni7181]

i definitely do think seventeen are one of the closer groups and the amount of time they’ve been together (at this point it’s been about 10 years) is a big factor as to why. but looking at their predebut/early content, i believe their chemistry has always been special as well.

[@Izzahanz]

I can't say for others but SVT has truly prove how their bonds are different from other kpop group by renewing their contract another 5 years without missing any members at all. I can't say for TXT though because people can look very close to each other but still decide to go separately. Saying this as a kpop fan since 2012 and after being through so many groups that didn't renew contract togther as a whole group even they pretty much look like real brother on screen..

[@minbeomu]

TXT knows what’s up🤸‍♀️ They may not have won!! But they had fun and collected new fans. The real winners truly.

[@tonytonychopper465]

In terms of chemistry/the strong bond as a group, I definitely think Seventeen is the best! I have watched several reality and variety shows from different artists and tried stanning some of them, and as multi-fan, I did take a rest from watching Seventeen videos to give time for the other groups I am stanning but whenever I go back to a Seventeen video, it's just so different. You could really feel that their fun is not forced. You could feel genuine happiness and trust, and if there's something they didn't want, they don't even try to hide it as much. I always feel their affection that is it is easy to sympathize with them. It's like they really rely in each other, that's why they are not afraid to show their true colors. Additionally, I love how carats don't make every little thing they do an issue unlike others. I felt a peaceful environment with them (although there are still who are a quite toxic). That's maybe why they are my ult group and I don't think any other group would let me love them as much as Seventeen.

[@tonytonychopper465]

In addition, I think having foreign members in their groups helped them create this strong bond. In SK, age is really important and it's more like age supremacy but with Joshua, Jun, The8, and Vernon (who grew up with a American environment) (plus Seungkwan maybe who rarely act like he's a maknae LOL), who grew up in a place where age doesn't matter as much in SK, the fellow members tried to get along with them in their ways that's why I really can't tell who's older when looking how they communicate. And if someone told me they are all at the same age, I would believe it lol. That's what Hoshi and Dino may be pertaining about Joshua like he's not the type of person to boss you around and treat himself as the older person. If you also look at Dino, he's not also the type of maknae to act like a baby but he's so open to his hyungs. I guess that hints everything on how they treat him.

[@Maya-fc5dz]

I think you’re absolutely right about Seventeen, you can just see how they truly care for each other and what a strong and special bond they have. :)

[@Lexusher]

I’m literally in love with your content like it’s so interesting and like I always see you using eye contact which is something you say which helps bring in the audience, and I’m quite uncomfortable with eye contact but it feels so natural and not weird

[@strayteez]

14:14 what you said about fromis_9 is very correct! The girl in the front left is Jiwon. She's main vocalist and also the comedian of the group--known for being dramatic, a little brash/blunt & unafraid to make a joke or act 'ugly'. The girl on the right is Chaeyoung and the other 'comedian'--she is often teasing her members, mimicking people and definitely very present! She is an introvert but can be very outgoing, especially in situations like these where she gets to promote her group! Chaeyoung is fromis' variety queen! I know your reaction focused on the boy groups but thank you for noticing fromis!

[@flovestay]

yesss flovers unite

[@BoosBucketHat]

finally a flover comment omg. stan fromis_9!!!!

[@armymoaengenecarat5955]

SVTs dynamic is also strong probably because they all know each others personality comes from thw years they have been together since they've debuted in 2015 (I guess).

[@woo3524]

sunghoon got dragged for that name moment online lol

[@dataam]

mingyu's personality naturally brings him to the spotlight- hes a born star like seungkwan! both of them do a lot of promotions for seventeen for that exact reason :D they are different but they both have a lot of similarities to each other which makes them stand out in situations like these. and seventeen definitely have a one of a kind bond. they have a lot of natural assurance in their relationship with each other that comes with age (it being over a decade since most of them have known each other). but aside from the fact that they have just known each other the longest, they really love each other a lot and worked hard to stay together this far. its because its them, all, and specifically, these 13 of them, that it was able to be like this. plus, everything they say about their contract renewals is further proof of that. and yes!!! 6/13 weren't there

[@sofiaroyal]

because they stayed together the longest among all those very young group AND they re-signed their contract too, Sevetenteen are without a doubt the closest(and one if not the funniest group I've stanned and many would say the same) love themmm

[@blswm5492]

i feel like i can relate to enhypen as a teenager surrounded by seniors i understand it would be harder to attract attention comfortably

[@minbeomu]

I think the group that have been together the longest will have a closer bond so its seventeen! They survived contract renewal with everyone deciding to stay. That’s impressive! (I don’t stan or know much about them this is just based on observation). I definitely think TXT is second. I’ve always admired their clear respect for each other. They have a clear boundary set between themselves and even between us MOAs! Out of a lot of groups, they make sure that no one crosses the line. The members are not afraid to say sorry, comfort or admit a mistake. They genuinely are so precious. The kindest!

[@armymoaengenecarat5955]

12:34 Fell for him even more because of this.

[@whoami8744]

Seventeen is senior group there, so they not talk much and throw the attention to their junior to let their junior get more attention or screentime to help them become more well known. And Seventeen has 13 members while others groups only have 5-8 members, so to make it fair usually they play rock, scissor, paper to pick members that will join (some) show, that's why they only sent some of their members to thus show. Thank you for this content ❤️

[@herryiskawaiii]

Ah Seventeen makes me so proud to be a carat.

[@tamzin1954]

i think your comments about seventeen seeming very close with each other were basically spot on! - i think a lot of it is down to how much time theyve spent with each other now, where they've later talked about how in their first years they kind of commonly believed that eventually they'd all split and go their own ways but from maybe 2018ish they started to think more that they were all friends/family for life a lot of it being down to just being real w/ each other on and off camera

[@MichaelAury]

The girl you mentioned from Le Sserafim with a lot of confidence is Yunjin. Although she debuted with Le Sserafim under Source Music, she used to be a Pledis trainee, the same company as Seventeen and NU'EST, which is probably why you see the same confidence. Pledis is a golden standard when it comes to good scouting and casting as a well-rounded training regimen, not just in song and dance but also in variety sense, hosting, and confidence. That being said you should check out Le Sserafim's content, too, because their dynamic is very interesting. The 5 members come from 5 distinctly different backgrounds. Although Leader Kim Chaewon, Sakura, and Yunjin were contestant on the same survival show, only the first two made it to IZ*ONE, and Yunjin went back to the US to study but was called by HYBE. Miyawaki Sakura is Japanese, and has been an idol for more than a decade despite her age, so she's considered a tried and true veteran in the entertainment industry. Chaewon did a 180* reversal from IZ*ONE to Le Sserafim, going from cute and innocent to chic and fierce. One more Japanese member, Kazuha, has trained in ballet for 15 years since she was 3 years old, and was training and performed in the Netherlands before getting scouted. And Eunchae, the maknae who made it to the finals here, is someone who HYBE execs said 'exceeded their expectations' because she's the epitome of gen Z, bubbly, smart, straightforward, and isn't afraid to ask for what she wants.

[@ailaudy4036]

I disagree with a lot of comments here. The years together is not a key in a bond. A lot of people in this industry said the groups with a genuine and a “family” bond are pretty rare. It’s a business. You can joke and work perfectly with someone but don’t have a “family” bond. It’s part of the synergy of the group and, yeah, of course the experience and years increase that but years is not equal bond

[@lumany5372]

True it’s not like groups who debuted earlier than Svt automatically have a better bond I think people are sometimes ignorant when it comes to praising others so they try to downplay something special like Svt´s bond by saying it is just because they know each other longer Because their bond is something I have not seen before getting into Svt and I have seen tons of groups both older and younger than Svt

[@whoami8744]

Agree with you, if you know group like Miss A, Brown Eyes Girl, AOA, Secret, MBLQ, momoland, gugudan etc despite they were living together for 5-7 years they said their relationship is business only, they even don't have each other's phone numbers after disbanded. Years is only numbers, seventeen bond is because they're genuine to each other.

[@0hunene]

I really know nothing about svt like zero but I really liked seungkwan he was so funny and I really resonated with his personality

[@naralyvalerio]

Txt and seventeen are definitely like family

[@shanellyfaust]

Seventeen boys are really close, but as a older group I think that was kind of expected. Enhypen is way younger and had less time together, so I think they will get closer with time. TxT guys really are a match made in heaven, I don't think they will need time to adjust to each other, they are different to each other, but that only adds to the group 💜

[@khair3598]

tbh SVT have always had this bond, even at their debut so them being an older group doesn't mean anything when it comes to their bond

[@jamuntae]

i wish bts could be there too it would be so chaotic lmaoo

[@Abby-vl5lj]

svt by far are the closest they've practically grown up with each other and it really shows

[@cgenie6888]

SEVENTEEN is just family 💖 +10 years together

[@apersonwholovescats79613]

seventeen has been together the longest from these groups that's why they seem the closest (they are) and along with them, i think txt also seem very real to me and their bond seems very close. enhypen, though.. hmm. idk how to feel about them

[@Lolelyboo]

I really enjoy watching your videos and you're also very relaxing 🥰

[@comekylab.4768]

I agree on that, seventeen spend their time more than a decade with each other so they've become family and inspiration for us

[@laura4everLOVETH]

I mean, I want what TXT have, their bond is so special and it is just such a good good time whenever I watch ‘em (and that is quite often) XD ❤

[@Lexusher]

I think the same way with you about seventeen being the most like bonded and I think it’s because when they joined the company and we’re training they were all quite young, seungchol (s.coups) wasn’t even supposed to be in svt but the compan told him that he wasn’t ready to debut (I think) and kinda the smae thing with Dino, Dino was stressed because he wasn’t sure if he was good enough Becuase he was so young (16) when they debuted. So they gave him the choice of being the youngest in seventeen or being the leader in another group, he didn’t answer in time and debuted with them and I’d say it was the best decision ever. So I think the time that they spent together while getting hella mistreated is what makes us feel the special bond. I also think that it has to do with they’re actual placements in their family. You say that Dino acts like the oldest and not really like a maknae sometimes and that’s probably because he’s the oldest in his family. You say a lot that seungkwan is observant and I think that’s becasue he was basically raised by girls (has two older sisters and him as the youngest) and when he moved to Seoul to train he then realized that what his mother had done for him that he took for granted. Idk if sibling do a lot in these situations but ye.

[@baek9265]

I really enjoyed this anaylsis. I would like to suggest Carnival episode or Boo Seungkwans's Past Life episode of Going Seventeen. I thing they are great to see Seventeen's bond on a fun level!

[@mash4744]

In terms of closeness, personally, I always felt seventeen, bts, txt, stray kids, twice and mamamoo (also maybe exid, monsta x) have a really strong bond. I'm sure lots of other groups have it as well, but based on what I've seen - they just have this wholesome closeness that feels unbreakable no matter the circumstances... idk Lesserafim are a new group but they give me similar vibes - like they genuinely get along and care for one another and I feel like a few years down the line they're going to have a really strong familial connection.

[@justvibing2171]

10:34 I think TXT is the closest group by far as well as seventeen. These two groups have amazing chemistry.

[@albadiaz408]

hi! i think seventeen are veeery close and share a very special bond for many reasons: first of all, they're a Lot of people in a group. i think that made them very aware of how big the influence of the group could have in every individual. also, they're self made in the sense that they have the three units for a reason: since before debuting they got to do A LOT of things by themselves, including doing variety and entertaining, so i think all that process over the years made them very self aware and objective about themselves in a sense of seeing their strong points and working on them, as individuals and as a group. i think they also knew it would be difficult for them to go solo?? because they came from such a little company, so they really worked in their relationship, and they took it seriously. you can see they have come to respect each individual a lot, and how they individually are, while working well together and making each other shine. i do believe there is a LOT of work behind this, just from seeing how they were before debut. they're all very smart in their own way, and deciding to respect each other while having a common goal and remaning objective about each other is their biggest strenght. they've also worked very hard in their "entertaining" skills. seungkwan is a natural, but each seventeen member has worked to not let him do this part of the job alone. they have their own rythinm now for reality shows. i see that potential in txt, tbh. they're getting there slowly too. they're also close, but they need more years to get even closer while evolving as adults.

[@dxsam2323]

Fun Fact : Every member of fromis_9 is a introvert which is pretty rare in Kpop

[@just_a_saeu88]

yes fromis are a bunch of introverted crackheads xD

[@keera_xo]

I feel withing the group its Seventeen. Their bond is so natural and close given they are so different to each other. Not only they are close they have a pretty good relationship with each others parents/ family members as well. They trained together since they are basically children and they been together for 7 years after that.. maybe that's why

[@MugiwaraCarat]

You should watch an episode where seventeen get in a true raw argument in One fine day in Japan. I feel like we all know there are moments where they would eventually disagree with one another so it was really interesting and nice to see how they figure out the problem togehter and communicate with one another. Really goest to show what can go behind the scenes with them that you won’t get to see. And a true reflection on why they have been so strong together despite 7+ years and no doubt they would continue on. Especially knowing that people will get tired of each other eventually and arguements would arise. Their bond is seriously something else

[@fatihahridi]

Pleaseeee react to txt own shows like TXT TO DO (their game variety show) or TALK X TODAY (personal vlogs) or maybe ONE DREAM (kind of a documentary of their debut showcase in US)

[@pamela6817]

even in high school if you do a sports days or an event like that you can tell the juniors and especially the seniors are gonna be the loudest and most outgoing while the youngest grades are gonna be sort of intimidated and walking around egg shells. i guess that's sort of what's happening here. i can see the actual oldest ones lee hyun and the nuest guys being comfortable being loud and speaking on the mic, but you can also see them engaing in a different way like laughing from afar and enjoying what the kids are doing rather than joining them. while svt is doing both things and taking a leader type role, setting the mood and joking around with everyone (their seniors and juniors) i guess sort of like the group of popular guys in high school would. my guess is if bts would've been there they would've taken that role, but seeing how outgoing and charismatic the svt guys are they would've engaged a lot too and if neither bts or svt where there it would've been txt, who would've nailed it as well. it's just hitting my i wrote a whole essay about kpop group dynamics. lol.

[@saraa.]

Loved this! Really looking forward to you doing a Le Sserafim reaction one day :)!

[@helenhi2468]

Would be great to see your reaction to Enhypen and TXT playground x 2 episodes. It was filmed just before Enhypen's debut.

[@marianar02_]

You should definitely check out more of le sserafim, they just debuted in may but already have such an amazing amazing bond and they are super caotic, and fun, there’s just such a great vibe with them. You can start with LENIVERSE which is their reality (episode 8 is so funny) or you can also start with their 4 episode documentary which shows a little bit of their pre debut journey till debut and how the group was formed, or LE SSERAFIM’S DAY OFF. The members are all incredible, my bias is eunchae cause she is so bubbly and funny and she really is the epitome of maknae energy, I’m sure you’ll love them. The members are Chaewon (the lider), Sakura (the oldest), both of them were previously in another group called izone which was a temporary group formed on a reality called produce 48 (kura already had previous experience as an idol in japan, she one of the most famous people in there). Yunjin is the one you said looked confident, she was also on produce 48 but didn’t make it to the debut team in that opportunity, so it’s incredible the three of them are now together in a group, and also yunjin grew up in the us so she speaks english perfectly. Kazuha is a professional ballerina, practiced ballet for 15 years until she decided to try something new with kpop, she’s the only one that isn’t completely fluent in korean since she is from japan (sakura is also from japan but she’s fluent now) but she’s gotten so much better. Eunchae is the maknae, the one that got to the end of the episode, her energy is just amazing, she was a little shy there cause of course she was the youngest of all of the hybe idols and they had just debuted when it was filmed but she really is super caotic and typical gen z hahah i love her. Hopefully you can check more about them, I’d love to see that

[@ankiagibson]

To know more about Le Sserafim I would say watch their documentary The world is my Oyster.

[@user-yj7mz7mt6z]

kpop groups' atmosphere is based on that how many years they work in this industry. it makes a lot of difference. it's a part of Korean culture too. As you know hierarchy is important to korean. but it is a virtue that the most elders does not come forward the most. So in this contents, you can see Lee hyun and former Nuest(Baekho, Minhyun) not come forward a lot. Instead, Second oldest group- SVT is more forward all the time. And naturally, Youngers be more modest. It is cultural in which roles are naturally divided in the order of the elderly. Also Bond is the same. as time goes by, there is a kind of stability that you can feel without direct expressing.

[@nathalykim1263]

among the groups on the show, I also think seventeen are the closest, by far, cuz they have been together the longest they're at that point where they don't need to be obvious about their love and respect for each other, they roast their members most of the time, but are naturally there for support when it's needed

[@kenmochisuki6751]

Soobin is just impossible to hate..

[@hachikoj7262]

Simple comparison: SEVENTEEN is real-life F.R.I.E.N.D.S... It covers everything that needs to be said imho.

[@vazei5288]

great video max!

[@stoplookingatmyname8200]

I stan all of these groups and I agree that svt is the closest here. Which any group that has resigned their contract has a different vibe from younger ones. But also, even amongst senior groups that are very close some feel like really good friends while others feel like family. Svt feels like a large family for sure.

[@mrg7588]

10:32 to answer this question, I'm a full on carat (I like other groups too and consequentially watch their contents, but svt will always be number 1 for me) so I would obviously say seventeen; they have the dynamics, they have spent many years together and without that closeness they would not be what and where they are now. But I also have to add that (from what I know because I don't really follow the other gorups as much) TXT has a really deep bond too, maybe helps the fact that they are only 5; no one will ever compare to SVT for me, but between all the groups I know TXT is one of the closer to them (in this aspect). I don't really know fromis9 so all I can say is that to me they seemed to have good chemistry (recently one of them left the group, but it was because she was more interested in acting than in being an idol (actually if I understood well, she is the one you think is the "badass" of the group)). The same goes for lesserafim, but they're also a new group so I think that to notice the real relationships between the members more time needs to go by. Nu'est members are quite close to each other but here there are only two of them (actually they disbanded, still bitter about that as I think (as most people do) that it was not a choice made by the group itself).

[@mr.oofblox]

I think if you watched the other episodes. They show much more personality. Would love to see it. Loved the video. Also it'd be nice to check out some Enhypen content. I'd like to see some of that in your channel ^^

[@shrutixd6620]

The entirety of seventeen weren't there cuz this was shot the day before seventeen had their Seoul concert as u can see when hoshi was promoting it and thus ig only the ones who wanted to came