Company of Heroes 1, 2, & 3 (beta) - Graphics and animation comparison

[@macdavy70]

I was the Animation Supervisor on the original COH1, and expansions, i can tell you it was a very unique time and place, with some of the most talented artists and developers in the industry, we made the game with pure passion. I'm still very proud of what was created.

[@haylo3277]

@@WolverineXOXO am your dad

[@ThePolishJoker]

All Games Are Made with Passion 😉and CoH 1 Looks So Bad... That It Should be For Free on Android 😑but Now It Can't be Even Installed 🤣

[@TokyoLove78]

i was your superior and i can confirm that bu you was lazy as fuck. do you rember when we received call girl in our office, that was wild. hope you doing great buddy

[@SpartanTF05]

​@@ThePolishJokerdude, its from 2006 what do u expect? Still being the the best

[@SpartanTF05]

And that s why the first is the best one

[@peti7021]

You can tell COH1 is made with passion and love.

[@alaunchanel1672]

true

[@Divert486]

They seem to have done some solid additions mechanics wise but everything is overshadowed by the more visceral elements. The UI, the super zoomed in perspective, the sound, the lighting, all feel like steps backwards.

[@deno202]

Because it is a step backwards XD

[@jacobmartinez3446]

@@deno202 I feel like it’s less zoomed in then coh2

[@bro3217]

Because relic literally said themselves that they left stuff out because this is a tech test and the purpose is to test servers. No need to make the game massive in size when all you’re doing is testing servers

@@bro3217 coping

[@deno202]

@@bro3217 You probably believe 100% everything your government tells you XD Game industries do not much differ from that side. But some part of me hopes that you are right and in one month we will see a polished, finished,worked through and tested to be sold for 79,99 ;)

[@ironviper72]

Is it just me or did the vehicles in CoH1 look the best?

[@nedudki]

no. coh1 beats all of them

[@LucasCunhaRocha]

Everything looks better in coh1, he didn't even showed how in coh1 the solders have facial expressions, do hand gestures, blink their eyes, etc. In coh2 the soldiers look and move like robots, I didn't checked yet how they look in 3 but I doubt it is any different. The amount of detail that relic put on coh1 was seriously high.

[@james79ableify]

Sounds better too

[@goy0551]

Nope

[@deno202]

Coh3 feels like a cashgrab.....

[@StetoGuy]

The biggest gripe for me with Coh3 right now, art wise, it that the sounds just lack that umpf, CoH2 sounds were just glorious and felt so weighty. I get that CoH3's sound is more 'realistic', but I think it would have been better to make the game sound satisfying.

[@ubbystoned]

yeah, like you can barely hear a tank shooting over all the other noises happening. I want boom. Any fans of Wargame Red Dragon will know what I mean.

[@AdmiralEisbaer]

I think the sounds are fine and they have umpf, they're not balanced. Like how can you not hear a tank shooting over the sound of the engine? If they adjust this it's going to be fine I think!

[@ALividPileofDirt]

Funny you should say that, because to me CoH2 overall sounds the weakest in this video. Part of that is definitely because the audio seems to be quieter on those clips for some reason, but the sounds themselves all seemed very weak and piddly compared to the CoH + CoH3 clips. Although one thing that stood out to me as missing from CoH3 was the impact sounds of small arms on vehicles, which is a significant loss imo.

[@StetoGuy]

@@AdmiralEisbaer I think umpf is probably the wrong word, I think what I’m trying to say is that it lacks a lot of personality. I played a lot of CoH 2 and for me what stuck out was the sounds. Like the engine sound of a Panzer 4 or Brummbär really sounded unique and menacing. Or the gun sounds of each unit. You could always tell when a Jackson or a JadgTiger was firing because their guns all sounded different. In CoH3 it kinda all blends together.

[@tirushone6446]

In coh 1 and 2 you could tell what was happening by the sound alone in coh3 it just sounds muddy and undefined

[@AndyRaparison]

I guess the sound is the biggest difference, COH1 sounds were just amazingly loud and clear (even when your screen is far from the unit and they speak through the radio). In COH2 sometimes when I intensively micro a unit I don’t really pay attention to the screen and lose units without knowing, but in COH1 I’m used to hear other units complaining really loud on their radio for me to take a quick peek on the unit banner-minimap.

[@TheFlohRiDa]

They complain all the same in CoH2. I had countless times where my inf squads would call out radio, tank, enemy infantry or other clues.

[@AndyRaparison]

@@TheFlohRiDa they do but it’s easier to miss IMO

[@agammuhajir2902]

What I like about COH 1 is the infantry automatically moves to the nearest cover when in combat.

[@AECoH]

I agree its amazing 👏

[@CriKnight]

Absolutely.

[@adwitiyoroy1797]

@@Bildup4 it's there in coh1, when they get shot, the squad members kinda scatter and get into the best cover possible. It's amazing to watch

[@Spankehh]

It is amazing to watch but it takes away some of the control over the unit. Infantry in CoH1 were sometimes frustrating, jumping around while they should be shooting 🫡

[@NativeLanguage02]

some mods removed that feature.

[@csibesz07]

When game from 2006 has better sounds and more realistic team movement.

[@PySnek]

and all of this runs smooth on a PC 10 times slower

[@MrSomeguyV2]

Sadly the realistic team movement was often frusterating. Units would very often dive out of cover to get a better shot. It was common to have to constantly tell the squad to get back behind the sandbags because they wouldn't stop leaving them. Guards were the last unit in CoH2 to have it, and for the longest time they were considered unreliable because they spent more time running back-and-forth than shooting. It sucked when you were trying to chase down a limping tank, they'd get a max-range shot, but then the guys with the AT rifles run backwards 20 feet and are now out of range again.

[@primordialsoup7085]

@@MrSomeguyV2 I agree but in coh 3 they just bumble around and just so no alertness. I just think they slacked on animations.

[@davidj217]

The fog of war in coh3 has so much pop in/out. The shadows also make it look bizarrely unfinished. The gunner in the coh3 m8 also looks substantially worse than the coh1 gunner. This is a nice video for comparisons because I was going back in forth from the tech test and coh1 and couldn't put a finger on why coh3 doesn't look great to me. Overall it just doesn't look like 17 years of improvement.

[@hippiemcfake6364]

Not just that, a lot of things look worse. Riflemen phasing through each other, MG not actually reloading etc.

[@AdrianAdrian-ik7un]

CoH2 looks best. Very good interface, game menu and in-game interface. Nicely made game. If I look at CoH3, I can't believe that the difference between 2 and 3 is almost 10 years. In my opinion, CoH3 looks worse than CoH2. This looks like DLC for CoH1.

[@hippiemcfake6364]

@@AdrianAdrian-ik7un CoH2 has better graphics since it's much newer than CoH1, but I still prefer the attention to detail and artstyle in CoH1. Like Riflemen jumping to cover, reacting to explosions around them, etc. Makes the game feel much more alive. In CoH2 it's not as good but at least they don't phase through each other like in 3. It's a shame that they couldn't just make a better and modernised CoH1/2.

[@AdrianAdrian-ik7un]

@@hippiemcfake6364 Yes, but CoH1 lacks many of the mechanics that we have in CoH2. I mean little things like "only attack vehicles". Nothing annoyed me more than an anti-tank gun that automatically fired at infantry. Many other similar things. For me, CoH2 is the best game, although I have a fondness for CoH1.

[@SigmaMc9869]

Bro es una beta del juego

[@ryanjensen8787]

Any else think coh1 has the best animations

[@pcuimac]

And the better visibility and contrast. Mostly because the gras is more yellowish, which makes the units pop out.

[@jedmoraleda995]

The voice overs cant be beat by the sequels

[@charlieh3510]

your cadence and inflection were on point for this video

[@AECoH]

Thanks, for the comment.

[@TheChaosUmbra]

I think a lot of the criticism of the CoH3 tanks is because they look shiny and new which is true when they are just build, but they have dynamic weathering which means if you look at one that has survived the match for a while it looks much better than the previous games and you can actually tell what had been fighting it, had a few so far with fire damage from engaging flame units.

[@deno202]

WOW I am sure that would be very handy in 1v1 matchups XD

[@Rmag37]

Oh crap, i hadnt even noticed the dynamic weathering! Usually by the time ive had vehicles for a while im passed the point of actually looking at units XD not sure how ive missed it with the tight zoom they are imposing on us right now. I cannot wait for them to loosen that up. I need to zoom out at least 20% farther.

[@deno202]

@@Rmag37 Yeah the zoom needs to be like Coh2 or maybe a bit further.

[@civilprotection3114]

I don’t agree with that, if the equipment/ tank was made before the war I’d understand but during war time production standards dropped so it makes far more sense to see things rough rather than shiny.

[@TheChaosUmbra]

@@civilprotection3114 well I can understand them being less shiny, but every vehicle produced IRL must have it's first battle at some point, unless you think they bathe all new vehicles in machine gun fire to make them look better...

[@JamesWalktroughs]

To me personally the graphics problem lies in fogginess. In CoH1 and 2 there is fog in the distance whereas in CoH3 it feels like you are already in that fog, making the graphics feel blurry, mushy and unclear (best seen in Rifleman example). That and vehicles look like they are made out of plastic.

[@PersianImm0rtal]

agreed

[@จตุพรจันทสุรวงศ์]

CoH 1 : labor of love. CoH 2 : when your hobby turnh to chore. CoH 3 : when it turned to full time work and the devs hate it. --

[@kbkilla360]

Even the voice acting and dialogue seem better in the previous titles.

[@deno202]

Because coh 1 was very innovative game at the time and made with much much love and dedication. Coh2 was made with less love and dedication. Coh 3 is done as a simple cashgrab to milk some money for future projects maybe.

[@Nickbn21]

@@deno202 are you just gonna respond in a sour way to every comment here?

[@kbkilla360]

@@deno202 Personally, I like CoH2 more than CoH1, with the exception of the campaign in CoH2. Didn’t like it’s story.

[@deno202]

@@Nickbn21 Probably yes, since snowflakes react to facts like you.

[@deno202]

@@kbkilla360 Coh2 made so many changes that were damn good, like UI for example. Coh2 is more enjoyable in multiplayer than Coh1, I have 4000+ hours in Coh2 and about the same in Coh1. Yeah the story in COH2 is meh, shame they didn't do for Axis like in Coh1 for Panzer Elite, I loved that campaign.

[@m00tes]

Surprised you didnt show us the Tiger difference, COH1 had absolutely epic tanks, the sounds, the movement, animations, coh3 does feel like a downgrade graphics wise.

[@jermasus]

Yeah in the last trailer coh3 Tiger was still using the coh2 model lol Did they at least improve the model?

[@cellardoor9882]

Especially the sound downgrade. Such a shame

[@zulefunel2172]

The Tiger in COH1 also has the best lines especially when they are on the verge of destruction they would shout "TIGER TILL THE LAST DAYS"

[@valerietessier9331]

17 years later, COH 1 graphism were and still awesome !

[@do3n3rti3r]

What they really messed up is the sound of the MG42. It's nice to see how much damage and supression this thing brings down, but the sound.. It's not far away from a bloddy star wars blaster to me (who shot a real MG42 in person)

[@Big1_]

in coh3 the mg42 is not even reloading, fcking pathetic 😂 Seems like coh3 is developed by 6 years old kids.

[@do3n3rti3r]

@@Big1_ haven't noticed that until I saw this video as I was so pissed of by the sound xD

[@Big1_]

@@do3n3rti3r no sound, no reloading animation... GOTY 2023 😂

[@michalkus5928]

Totally agree. After 10 years we got this! Let that sink in

[@oldenhaller]

The coh3-one sounds like a pea shooter.

[@DeadLikeMeJ]

When chatting about grahpics its good to remember that there are several layers that are entagled together. Engine fidility(the capabilites of the engine to rander models, draw objects, recall textures and so on), Art style (color palet/draw style/model and objects look and so on), and there are Animations(the way draw out and interact within the frame). I fall in love with CoH 1 because for its time it was revolutionary in all its aspects, whether it was the level of detail, the zoomed approach the physical presense of objects on the map and th way its being interacted with mechanically. On top of all of it it was set in WW2 and it had that 'realistic' style to it. CoH 2 for me was less appealing because while it did continued in some aspects with the realistic touch (environmentally) it also looked more cartooney to me (shown with green rifle man or very colorful tan-yellowish tanker) that seem to pop up. CoH 3 is hard to judge as its not finished development yet but as of now it looks even more cartooney and popping out than previously whether if its because of the shiney vehicles or the inmproved fidilty on the texture of soldiers and objects (which is a good thing) in contrast to the very low ress of the ground and vegetation around it (which had an improvement but not a massive one). I feel like CoH 3 didn't advance grahpically forward enough, it looks like the game was suppose to come out in 2016 not 2023.

[@wolfgangi]

Coh 1 sound design was on another level. The graphics still look great. Coh3 needs about another year's polishing.... Frankly very disappointed

[@sturmbnnuy]

Both CoH 1 and CoH 2 were incredible games, CoH 3 is just a mess...

[@bro3217]

@@sturmbnnuycoh2 should be erased from everyone’s brain and if it’s gonna be remembered it should be remembered as the worst coh game in history that took almost a decade to be playable

[@sturmbnnuy]

@@bro3217 nah, it's a nice game, CoH 3 needs to be deleted and started from scratch again

[@diamondhead5253]

@@bro3217 CoH 2 is not a masterpiece like CoH1, but it’s not a bad game either, in fact, I think it’s actually very good, just not excellent

[@LuttiApce]

@@bro3217 You are exaggerating. In one year the game was playable, not very balanced, but in other areas the game was fine. Balance area take more time sure. CoH 2 has a awesome multiplayer game (3000 hours of mp).

[@andrzejkulakowski]

The 50cal says it all in Coh1 -just look at it enjoy its sound - music to my ears especially if you have a good audio setup to listen to that. It's unmatched! And coh2 and coh3 looks and sounds like a wimpy piss in the wind 😟

[@d-man9921]

"Tyu-tyu-tyu-tyu-tyu-tyu-tyu-tyu-tyu... PTUMM" - Coh 1 M8

[@Big1_]

yep, seems like coh1 Devs are not the same from coh2 and coh3. Like coh1 was developed by mature and grow people which care about "realism" and coh2 and coh3 was developed by kids like pew pew who cares how it sounds im going to make it sound like pew pew pew and move ahead.

[@AtomicRobloxProductions]

I had only played COH1 as a child, mostly, and ironically enough that sound effect stayed with me even if I had long forgotten other parts of the game. Peak gunfire sound design. It sounded so, damn, good.

[@hagki]

Those who work at CoH1 they are making the game never expires. really appreciate a lot for dev, artist, designer, etc who make CoH1 the best RTS game

[@Rikkou511]

You can clearly tell all the talent went to blackbird interactive. Relic isn't Relic just as Bungie isn't Bungie and Obsidian isn't Obsidian other than it's founder and owner. People make the game and the Relic of today keeps starting from scratch with it's talent.

[@internettroll1985]

Nothing can beat the company of heroes 1

[@StealthCloudchaser]

Company of Heroes 2 does.

[@Bulatcoh]

That mg42 reload though, made me laugh xd

[@AECoH]

You never played mg42 patty cake before?

[@generalleestupid]

@@AECoH Patty Cake, Patty Cake, machine gunners man. Reload me a MG-42 as fast as you can Load it, pat it, and rack it.

[@kampfer91]

Give it a good pat !

[@gustavomartins72]

idk why the soldiers in coh 3 keep their formation so thight and fire in so perfectly at the same time, look at coh 1 in comparison, soldiers fire in different timings to reflect their personal reaction speed, they even spread out their squad (in the video they divide themselves in 3 groups of 2 it seems), in that way, coh 3 infantry feel more like cyborgs, i havent played it yet, but i know for sure that coh1 inf look a lot more humane

[@fotiskazelis]

The 'David Attenborough' voice though. Here we see a COH2 rifleman in its natural habitat.

[@Cybersharky_]

What I really love about infantry in coh1 is that some of the squad members would move on their own, either to move into cover or to doge an incoming shell. I don't think I've ever seen them do that in coh2.

[@LucasCunhaRocha]

they used to do the same on coh2, but it caused a lot of problems, especially with guards since they kept jumping around and would never fire the PTRS or the DP, so they removed the random jumping animations and turned all infantry into robots. A lot of stuff changed over the years in coh2, go to imperial dane's channel and look for his videos around 2013-14 and you will see how much different the game was graphically.

[@jandamz1119]

it's great for thematics, gameplay-wise it's annoying when you want your units to stay put in cover but some of the models decided to move out of the cover. And like how the previous comment said, when certain weapons require the unit to stay stationary to shoot (something CoH2 had a lot of), it ends up in not getting the full potential of said weapon.

[@deno202]

And how in coh 1 infantry reacted to explosions, they would seek cover, run a bit crouched.

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

This, i would have loved to see the SQUAD AI make a return in CoH 3 but nope, Relic got lazy. Atleast an option to enable it for Singleplayer would have been great.

[@trabuco9]

@@LucasCunhaRocha You're right, the games texture quality and lighting looks better too, there isn't the awful grayscale haze that's present in the game nowadays.

[@steveh8658]

My 2 cents...1. COH 1 has the best 'hit box' for vehicles imo. In COH 3 it looks like rounds impacting on a tank are hitting some kind of hit box rather than the vehicle. 2. The 'micro-contrast' on units looks the best on COH 1. 3. The sonic impact is best on COH 1. This is feedback, I understand the game isn't out yet.

[@deno202]

Imagine that this game will be out 23rd February with the whopping 79,99euro XD How many suckers will buy it at full price XD That cashregister sound in developers heads are mindblowing probably :D

[@23Kaugummi]

COH1 Still the best, just make a nice remake of it with some nice features from coh2 and we are all happy.

[@TheFlohRiDa]

Thats what CoH3 is, believe it or mot ;)

[@LEONFENG134]

Coh1 hav that “solid” combat feeling than other 2

[@forlornfoe]

Now that is just embarrassing, CoH1 is *still* the best one. Just looking at its amazing animation & well-balanced sound makes it so much more alive. A great game sequel makes the previous one feel unplayable. CoH3 simply makes me want to return to CoH1.

[@TRDsense]

I always loved the Details in coh (mg 42 picking up New Box etc) by now not even the rockets are gone when firing the stuka zu fuss. Very sad.

[@GeeNo_]

Without commenting on the graphics of any of these, I have to say while I only really played bot games and the campaign of CoH 1, I loved how in this video you can see how believable the Rifles from 1 looked with them taking cover as they moved along, and then engaging with individual models diving prone and running to cover after stopping to shoot. I know it could sometimes cause a few small issues but frankly I think it's better than what 2 and 3 have, made each infantry fight more unique and cinematic imo. Edit: Missed opportunity not including the "Hi" in the CoH 1 grayhound clip AE :P

[@deno202]

Right on point. Lelic failed to implement that in COH2, so Im pretty comfident they will do even worse job in Coh3 XD

[@MrSmokincodz]

I’m giving co3 the benefit of the doubt. I think after some time it will become great. Coh2 will always be special to me.

[@petercameron2137]

hoping the same thing. After playing the tech test however it needs some very simple fixes that are STILL surprisingly noy considered 6 weeks out from release

[@zelkuta]

TBF, coh 2 was a VERY hot mess at release. This art style changes tho..yeeesh.

[@tehfeezsadik8700]

Exactly the same here, 2 just felt heavy and real!

[@Nickbn21]

@@petercameron2137 have you sent ur feedback to relic through their forums?

[@Warmaker01]

I have to say, COH1 looks and sounds competitive. Not bad for a game that's almost 20 years old. Then again that's old school Relic Entertainment. From Homeworld in 1999, Dawn of War 1 in 2004, Company of Heroes 1 in 2006, these guys were hitting it out of the park. I'm curious to see how COH3 does for them because I do believe Relic needs it, especially after the Dawn of War 3 mess.

[@jermasus]

Lmao when the coh3 M8 fires it literally sounds like that fart reverb meme

[@nedudki]

COH1 is the real deal, still

[@diaperdood1]

COH1 is by far the best game

[@plasmaweapons9676]

why does coh1 look/sound the best lmao

[@theancientone1616]

you see, with every other game, the newer the game the better the graphics, but with coh it's the opposite!

[@basty1man]

The graphics get better and better and yet CoH 1 still looks the best and plays the best.

[@vanguard8889]

No, you are wrong. Numbers dont lie. RTS players aren't like other genres. We'll stay with a game even when a more aesthetic pleasing game is released after. Look at AoE2; 20+ years old and has 16k players. What about AoE3? 1k. What about AoE4? 9k. We stay or go to the better gane irrespective of graphics. CoH2 has 5k players online at any time. CoH1 less than 1000!!! The community knws CoH2 is better. they moved there. Just like AoE fans STAYED with AoE2. its better. Sory, CoH1 is jusy not thst good

[@corvettechris1387]

@Vanguard88 Agreed, I think half the people saying coh1 is way better than coh2 and coh3 don't even play the games or don't want literally anything but coh1. Coh1 is a good game, but it's aging out and frankly coh2 and coh3 are just superior its almost every way.

[@rudel8376]

@@vanguard8889 there is a reason for that.... maphacking in coh1 and the killing of gamereplays-forums

[@remote24]

@@rudel8376 coh 1 has lack of support, that's why many moved. Imbalances, technical issues and barcounting are some of them. The super toxic community doesnt make it better.

[@scruggs6633]

CoH1 has strong nostalgia factor for me but 2 just feels so much better to play

[@angryviking6928]

Any chance of a comparison video for some audio features, like how HMGs are now shooting airsoft rounds, apparently?

[@bro3217]

Sounds are bugged my guy some things sound loud some things are extremely quiet

[@shadow7988]

3 just seems washed out and the infantry kinda just blend in to the background. Boy it's going to be a funny vid when SFX get compared, the guns and explosions in 3 sound like toys and airsoft. CoH3 is just another DoW3 from what I've played in the play test so far. In a year where we're getting a new homeworld(which is horrifically ironic, since it used to be a Relic IP and now looks set to utterly embarrass Relic), Broken Arrow, and Men of War 2, I don't see many RTS fans wasting their time on this consolized sequel.

[@heinopedersen6134]

Yes, Blackbird Interactive is Relic 2.0 . This studio behind CoH3 exists in name only.

[@3217491]

yea, had the same feeling. This feels more like DOW3 and AoE4 in terms of how it looks. Gameplay (imo) wasnt too good either. The auto vaulting is cancerous for one.

[@DarlinaLTesh]

Some of the sounds in CoH3 are really bad, I agree. Tanks firing tho? That's just beautiful. Especially the Tiger. You can feel the power behind that 88.

[@nihul7010]

COH3 is a huge downgrade over COH1/COH2. The sound effects are terrible and the graphics look like someone smeared a crayon over the screen and it lacks clarity. I understand that Relic is re-using the same engine but higher resolution textures from the previous games would have been enough instead of applying this borderlands filter on the screen to cover up the lack of effort on Relic's part.

[@nlmnx5763]

coh2 was a huge downgrade over coh1

[@kampfer91]

@@nlmnx5763 I disagree , CoH2 still look somewhat good , i won't call it a huge downgrade , the environment look better too .

[@AndresIITC]

the problem is that they did not improve the quality of the 3d models and their polygons, they even reused models like the tiger... that's just it

[@reijorehti2447]

@@kampfer91CoH2 is still a downgrade. When version numbers are growing, you are supposed to deliver better quality. Now, they failed again with CoH3.

[@PetetheCanuck]

I like COH1 in all of them.

[@stuartmathieson8251]

COH 1 over all i think is the best

[@jandamz1119]

I think one reason why a lot of people think CoH3 graphics for models are weak or bad is due to how I noticed in this side-by-side comparison that CoH3 has more softer shadows on the models while the previous two had more harder darker shadows. Said darker shadows help in outlining and shaping the model better and even help in giving detail to certain parts, something that CoH3 is lacking in that regard. Added with how the models are rather shinier due to the rendering engine, it makes the models have very uncanny look on them.

[@poschrafael]

First thing i did when trying it out was turning off anti aliasing, close the game and install Reshade. It can help with some things...

[@AndresIITC]

the problem is that they did not improve the quality of the 3d models and their polygons, they even reused models like the tiger... that's just it

[@jandamz1119]

@@AndresIITC Why should they improve the polygons of a unit on an RTS game? CoH2 especially had already decent looking models so what is there to "improve" without sacrificing performance? Like the models themselves look pretty decent by RTS standards and the game is pretty optimized unlike CoH2.

[@TheSuperColonel]

The art style of COH 1 aged very well, and the animations and voice lines are also well made in 2006....... Coh 3 has side armor.......and needs 16GB VRAM to run on ultra and does not even look good.......PCs are vastly more powerful in 2023........ They could remake COH 1.......

[@onEmEmbErstudios]

I like the little movement from Rifflemen units when they are trying to get to cover

[@jdp2108]

Praying for a COH 1 remaster or something. It just feels thematically better than the other two games.

[@easymoneeey]

I've never played any of the COH games but COH 1 looks the best to me. Feel like they could just update the lighting for it and it'd have a better reception than COH3

[@blore]

At this point, I just suspect that the vast majority of the people that did coh1 had nothing to do with the sequels. Coh2 and 3 look like games made by people who were told to make a follow-up, but never actually played them or worked on the original.

[@rudel8376]

exactly!

[@angryviking6928]

The Relic team had a major exodus of talent in 2013.

[@shadow7988]

They're all working on Homeworld 3 now with Blacksand, lmao. CoH3 is being made by a totally different team of people in all but name. Unsurprisingly, Homeworld 3 looks like it's going to be an absolute BANGER when it comes out this year. Between that and Broken Arrow I think I'm going to be set on RTS for many years. CoH3 is a complete joke and I won't be wasting time or money with it after the play test.

[@andrzejkulakowski]

Amen

[@TR-kk2bh]

Dude the second M8 looks miles better than the 3rd. That's just embarrassing

[@thomasthewankengine8965]

I still reckon CoH 1 aged better

[@antelcon9981]

I really hate that for example the riflemen, they took the dropping to the ground and knee sliding animations, I remember there being artillery holes in the ground and the soldier going in for cover LIKE THEIR LIVES DEPEND ON IT, unlike the CoH2 and CoH3 where they literally just stand there, with such a calm as if they were impossible to hit, it really shows that CoH 1 animatios were made with love

[@MrJbalmer]

Coh3 just looks a bit matte, bit more texture denoting edges and the graphics will pop better... I hope

[@marcusanthonyPOV]

As someone with 4000 hours in Coh2, I will say that zoomed out, Coh1 looks better than Coh2 looks better than Coh3. The opposite is true the more you zoom in but from afar, the look worse and worse. I believe this is mostly due to lighting, specifically light temperature, fewer shadows, less smoke, etc. resulting in an overly clean and unrealistic image. In other words, it's the way you'd light a soap opera and not a war movie.

[@kovalensue]

yea the clean look of coh3 is awful... I really like coh2 smoked-filled battlefield... the effects in coh3 overall look like stupid anime :D

[@eygs493]

wow, i know you, you are level 13/14 1v1 player

[@eygs493]

@@kovalensue i agree 100%

[@marcusanthonyPOV]

@@eygs493 It's true. I'm Alaric. Usually 13/14. What's your handle?

[@simplymatt6140]

If you think it looks bad or doesn't play as well as a rts in 2023 should... don't buy it. For more tips, like, comment and subscribe

[@aa1944-k2r]

honestly i expected a lot more from COH3, it has been more than 10 years i think since i first played coh1, i ll probably wait till all the dlc s come out and buy them all at once 6 months later

[@jakelagace2302]

I WANT TO PLAY COH1 SO BAD RIGHT NOW NEVER STOP PLAYNG LADS

[@Ultracheese0]

It sounds kinda weird, idk if it is because i got used to coh2 too much but coh3 looks very cartoonish to me.

[@mystikast]

it does look very cartoonish

[@WhoIsJohnGaltt]

I think the fact we have to make videos like this just shows that something is truly wrong here. I was honestly surprised how well COH 1’s aesthetics hold up to this day. Something very “authentic” about it. Almost “atmospheric” I might say. I wouldn’t mind a aesthetic return to coh 1 with all the new tech and stuff of the new games and see exactly what that feels like. But nevermind that let’s focus on how coh 3 looks and why it’s completely unacceptable. Why is it so childish? Why is it so cartoony? Why does it feel like it’s a game for kids and not adults? Why? I’m certainly not happy with it

[@jamaly77]

At this point, an abysmal max zoom level is the trademark of this series. Strategic zoom makes RTS so much better. Here, you're just glued to the screen.

[@BeWa1982]

Rifleman in COH 3 looks like they have a relaxing Good Morning Sunday Walk, if they are in Combat the only Difference they Tear up theyr Weapons. In all Categories COH 1 still on Top

[@wojtekmarciniak1173]

its insane how people could replace 20 years newer technology with just pure passion and caring.

[@n.e.g4865]

THQ/Relic did a Rockstar Games and made a mobile game developer in charge.

[@firstspar]

In the description you need to include: * specs of your machine * in-game graphics settings of COH3

[@NoCommentaryGameplay_ID]

COH1 Animation way more real for me... In battlefield situation You never take aim and shoot with stand like a eifel tower 😅

[@UltimateEnd0]

And people always wonder why I am so jaded

[@mitrooper]

You didn't do CoH justice in your video, they even gave the soldiers facial expressions. You should have zoomed in during their idle animations. Company of Heroes, a game from 2006, that's close to two decades old, is superior to games released today. It has superior animation, superior sound effects, superior cut scenes and superior gameplay. CoH 2 has improved graphics, but ditches the facial expressions. CoH 3 is highly forgettable in many ways and should have never been released and it's woke as well to boot.

[@herrlogan17]

CoH 1 looks the best. It´s not only about models/animations, but also on battlefield immersion (smoke, explosions).

[@railgun517]

Man, I looked back at lots of CoH1 stuff and honestly, it still feels SO much better than CoH3, like it's not even close. I don't understand how Relic screwed THIS badly. Animations, material feel, voice acting, physics, impact, explosions.. I don't get it, it's just so much worse

[@zelkuta]

If you guys are wondering about the graphics, it's because they are making a console port. They have to make the graphics basic so it will run on a basic xbox : /

[@gerard518]

How are the graphics basic? I'm running a 2080ti and the game looks superb.

[@Bulatcoh]

Basic xbox can give much better graphics, look at other AAA projects on Xbox series S, this is bad excuse for coh3

[@ssn2186]

The CoH 3 units are modeled with high polygon counts. Absolute performance killer yet bafflingly they paired it with cartoonish textures. .

[@NativeLanguage02]

Missing the physics that made the bullets and shells fly realistically.

[@mozar94]

Also the smoke effects fizzles out way to quickly (almost all effects and sounds is a downgrad too)... look at the pz4 when it fires for example in COH2 compared to the dog shit effects we are getting in COH3, feels like mobile game honestly.

[@NativeLanguage02]

@@mozar94 its how games are sold this days, in the name of "realism".

[@mozar94]

@@NativeLanguage02 where is the realism in this?? LOL

[@NativeLanguage02]

@@mozar94 think of it as the way total war is heading.🤭

[@mozar94]

@@NativeLanguage02 XD

[@Belisaur]

Imagine getting clowned on by your twenty year old ancestor this hard

[@geoffcapeschamp]

The desynced track ice skating animations in CoH3 for tracked vehicles is appauling. Such an easy thing to just get right, I don't know why they can't be consistent here.

[@HatsMcHats]

Idea for a video: explosions comparison.

[@wodzovsky]

That feeling when a game from 2023 looks like it's from 2006 xD

[@striderfootyy5046]

I think the Devs already stated that there are some graphical bugs and that some assets didn't make it into the playtest. There's still hope.

[@whispa07]

I hope so but for the life of me, I just don't understand why they don't release that. It's not just a MP test. It's an opportunity to showcase your game. This is coming from someone who is enjoying the MP test.

[@3217491]

the game is supposed to be released in within 2 months time, tell me ONE game which had a shit beta shortly before release that actually had a good launch.

[@TRUE_LOVE_STORE]

COH 2 top 1

[@Stalker_Monkee]

CoH1 is just made good, with will to make the game, not beacuse of profit. So surely, its one of the best there. Even graphics in CoH3 not saves it.

[@rynldio755]

COH1 should get a visual remake.

[@benedictjajo]

I tried the coh3 playtest. It was okay but the performance is absolutely unacceptable. Whenever you move the camera, the game starts to stutter a lot.

[@kovalensue]

i have stable 144 fps all the time 🙂so it depends on the rig, i guess

[@sorentappe8745]

That was an issue in earlier builds, like the multiplayer pre-alpha one year ago. Weird that you still get it.

[@martins3993]

Really? My computer is about 8 years old, with a 970 gfx and i was surprised about how smooth it runs.

[@lepathewarrior4445]

Probably either bug or you are running some ancient tech, with decently modern stuff it runs like a dream. I am just not sure about it otherwise.

[@gerard518]

What are you running? A pentium from 1995?

[@klawikor]

i love how everyone coped "its prealpha" and here we are - it does not look much better

[@hippiemcfake6364]

All we (a good part of the community) wanted was modernised CoH1 with a few edges removed. This is not it, graphics wise. CoH1 does hold up unfairly well, granted, but could we get at least something that isn't a step back? If I could dream, I'd also want the graphics to look much better after 17 years of hardware improvements.

[@jonredcorn862]

The fuck you mean a step back? This looks way better than the two previous ones? The textures are way better.

[@geshabuL_]

I think we can all agree that COH3 looks like low-res Fortnite, this is an embarrassment.

[@AJ-et3vf]

Great video. Thank you

[@123ikubuf]

Coh3 rifleman has 1 tommy gun? That means they will deal more dmg ??

[@Wings0fRed]

Thanks for the comparison, makes it really easy to see some of the advances (and potential steps back). To me, graphically, everything in CoH3 seems kinda smudgy, whereas coh2 was crisp.

[@marekkos3513]

The winner is only one !.Hell let loose the best sound effects in any video game history.Thank you and have a nice day

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

Oh Relic, how the mighty have fallen.

[@roopekorhonen6149]

Gladly many of these graphical problems will get their fixes later on in the pathces. It is more important to get the physics working first.

[@LuttiApce]

And sound, and textures, and pathfind of medium and heavy tanks, and weight and feel of medium and heavy tanks too lol. Maybe in 2024 or never.

[@mOZERixInstrumentals]

sadly i don't think so, it does not feel like they are goin to do much, the problem lies in the art style, they went even more cartooney following in coh 2 path instead of the more realistic, grindier, better looking coh 1. It's just sad at this point.

[@AndresIITC]

the problem is that they did not improve the quality of the 3d models and their polygons, they even reused models like the tiger... that's just it

[@neubtuber]

I like the gritty style of CoH 1. But CoH 2 looks best right now, which is not what people will be expecting...

[@michalkus5928]

It has been 10 year guys, I also work in gamedev for more than 10 years as a concept designer. I dont see this game being even being on par with CoH2. Some shaders look better, destruction is better. some tweaks like auto reinforcements are cool but could have been patched in coh2. The game feels less physical, my tanks look like plastic toys. the whole world looks bleached out and weird. sounds are nothing compated to coh2. It's pretty sad.

[@diamondhead5253]

Coh2 looks better still, I mean hell, Coh1 looks better too. The same thing applies to sound design. I get it’s still unfinished but this is not a good first impression

[@urkeksi4490]

It´s 1 month from release I´d say it´s pretty much "finished" because they won´t change anything major in just a month.

[@TylerMcWilliam]

So much personality in the first game

[@General-F]

I do feel mix about 3, but I didn't get the graphics I wanted, and it's blurry it looks worse on the buildings, objects, and plants. The things I did like. The new units I liked the truck for the British. The Half-Track Tank destroyer version as well medical. Although I'm just a causal player. That doesn't mean Relic didn't have bugs at the beginning that will rise my eyebrows. The British truck, when equipped with the anti-air gun, goes under the bridge. One of the missions bugs out on me when on the destroy ammunition caches mission where you leave. I got all my units out, but it didn't trigger the victory cutscene. I had reset it. I had to spread out or be farther from to trigger better. The other bug I found was when I was dragging box around box to get all my troops. A cutscene happened. It left the blue box on the corner it was there until the mission was completed. It was on the last mission of the African Campaign. I don't know what to say about it. Like some things about it and things I hope gets fixed.

[@omarowaychi5970]

Coh is going backwards. Coh 1 is the best

[@trabuco9]

CoH was the peak, a love letter to RTS and WW2 fans by extremely passionate people.

[@trabuco9]

CoH1 still the best

[@thomasmo90]

Always played Coh1. Didnt like Coh2 as much and never tried Coh3.