Comparing an Inflatable Dinghy with an Inflatable Kaboat

[@dS80615]

The Kaboat is crazy steady even though narrow. Ive had mine around 12miles offshore on pretty nasty day, and kid you not i was killin big waves with a cinch.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Nice! The big bladders do help for sure.

[@littlemiamijeff]

I sold my kaboat 16 last fall. Great stability in low wind , i used on small river here in Cincinnati . Had it on Ohio river no problem with 8hp evinrude. Only sold it because I needed dental work. Thanks for the comparison !

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Always a pleasure and thank you for watching!

[@joelelias2556]

That really sucks, man. I hope the work went well, and you get yourself another boat soon.

[@savagemako17]

You mentioned fashioning some kind of keel from a pool noodle. It sounds doable, but I don't think I've ever seen it. According to B.T.G. this Saturn model has 4 skegs attached fore and aft on the main tubes to increase tracking stability and decrease the wind effect while on open water. That's got to be worth something when paddling kayak style as well. I want THAT kaboat. Thanks for the videos. You are a terrific, engaging advocate for the product.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Always a pleasure and thanks for watching 😊

[@ErickMartinSucre]

www.boatstogo.com/11-budget-inflatable-boats-cb330.asp

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Look at the pictures on the link and you'll see how they do it.

[@boatsandoutboards9070]

It's no doubt that a keel increases stability and control. But I wonder what would be my top speed when the keel is NOT inflated . I'll try that next time I'm on water.

[@bluedoggum8373]

Thx. So where would the catamarans fit into the mix? Which models are best for ocean only, meaning running into chop often but still want a very small boat. Catamarans? Thanks

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Ok, I'll give you my own personal opinion. Most catamaran users I know are in Australia where Catamaran racing is very popular. They are very quick and stay above water for the most part, while going incredibly fast. As for casual users, you're better off using a standard shape inflatable boat. Since catamarans have an open front, while handling large chops, water can get in. They do well when the waters are calm for casual use. Thundercat Catamaran is the most sought after brand.

[@bluedoggum8373]

@@ErickMartinSucre thanks for the help. I am a freediver. In wetsuit while on boat.So just so I understand, if I don’t care about water over the top so much you’d actually say they are good in choppy waters.?thanks

[@ErickMartinSucre]

They are as long as you keep up with speed. Going slow may be a little tricky.

[@ninocastro4563]

Hello, I was wondering on how was the performance of 6hp outboard in your dinghy? Will it run pretty well with 4 adults passengers? How fast can it go on calm water?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I will not lie to you in any way, shape, or form. With me and some gear, I got around 14mph max, but 4 people and a 6hp? Nope, you'll just drah around 5-6mph. You'll need a 15hp or higher. If you live in an area that allows 2-stroke outboards, you may want to consider an 18hp Hangkai "15hp Yamaha 2-stroke outboard clone" instead. amzn.to/3WCeJ7O

[@ErickMartinSucre]

If you chose a Hangkai outboard, follow these instructions and you'll have an amazing motor for cheap. This video is made with my 12hp, but the same applies to the 18hp model. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mojIq6OEpJ2ir9U

[@edgars00789]

Erick what's the material on the Saturn Dinghy

[@ErickMartinSucre]

1100 Denier PVC

[@edgars00789]

@@ErickMartinSucre is the Dinghy material any good for South Florida climate

[@ErickMartinSucre]

NO issue on my end. PVC inflatable are great for recreation, however, if you plan on having the dinghy out in the sun all year round, you may want to get a Hypalon model instead. I rinse, clean, and deflate my boats after I am done with a trip and store it on y room. I have not had any issues as of yet.

[@freshsaltyfries5078]

Hi Eric I had a question I like fishing the ocean here in so cal I have a 6hp outboard. Usually fish my self but also take my son with me. Which Saturn inflatable would you recommend me?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I'll be happy to help. My favorite is my ZK380 Kaboat. Not heavy, heat-welded, tough in the places that need to be tough. If the ZK380 is not available, the FB365, SD365/SD385. If you want a more narrow frame, the SK385XL/SK470XL will do the job as well.

[@freshsaltyfries5078]

@@ErickMartinSucre thank you for the recommendation. I will check those out. What was your thoughts on skh430 for ocean fishing are these ok for choppy sea or best for inshore fishing around jetty?

[@freshsaltyfries5078]

@@ErickMartinSucre i recently bought scout 430 kobat inflatable only lasted 4months leaks at the seams so they gave me another one planning on selling to try out the Saturn inflatable. Is there any Saturn in SoCal I can test out the boats

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I am not sure if there is one near socal

[@freshsaltyfries5078]

What’s your thoughts 16ft sk487 kaboat for one person fishing?

[@alexeyakulovich4737]

Eric, if you have option to keep just one boat with no ocean just lakes and rivers and you choosing between Saturn SK 385XL and Zodiac Cadet 310 AIR (deck) - what will be your choice?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

The SK, all the way. I'm actually considering selling my ZK380 and just keep the SK. It can handle some ocean waters, nothing too wild.

[@alexeyakulovich4737]

@@ErickMartinSucre Thank you!

[@alexeyakulovich4737]

@@ErickMartinSucre Еric - what engine HP do you think is the best suited for Kaboat?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@alexeyakulovich4737 If it's just you, 6hp is enough. If more than one person, 8-10hp 2 stroke engine.

[@alexeyakulovich4737]

@@ErickMartinSucre Thank you very much!

[@josephbutler4925]

How about a review on a inflatable catamaran!!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

If someone sponsors it I'll do it

[@computergardener]

A master class on the differences, thank you. I was leaning towards a kaboat, but honestly after seeing this video a dingy is the better option for me and my family...

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Wow, thanks for the compliment 😊. I own and dinghy and a kaboat. Kaboats are amazing in rivers while dinghys work best in open waters and for more than one person to travel with. Be safe our there!! If you happen to have Facebook, feel free to join my group and share your adventures. The Muddy Feet Oasis.

[@ktulu310]

Do you like this one or the zk380 for ocean? I plan to go mainly alone but occasionally with 1-2 more people. I’m stuck between the zk380 or the 470xl. I’m using a mercury 8hp

[@ErickMartinSucre]

The ZK380 would provide better handling of waves and large wake, while the SK470XL would be quicker on the water. If you feel skilled enough in the water, get the SK470XL, but if you'll like a bit more safety in the water, go for the ZK380. If for any reason you cannot settle, I always recommend the SD365 dinghy. It is a really well-rounded model that can tackle almost anything in the water. alnk.to/8PDMKhT

[@ktulu310]

@@ErickMartinSucre thanks Erick! I’ve watched almost all of your videos regarding kaboat,outboards, and inflatables. I decided to go with the sk470xl since it’s narrower. I’m limited on space in my apartment and the cleaning can be tricky if the boat is too wide. Can’t wait to get it on the water with a used 2006 mercury 8hp I picked up for it.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@ktulu310 Nice!! Those are quick, and with an 8hp, it's gonna fly!!

[@ktulu310]

@@ErickMartinSucre You think it’ll still be moderately fast with 2 heavy adults and fishing gear?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@ktulu310 With an 8hp, maybe 12-14 mph

[@lilfear]

Why is there a hole in bow of the inflatable floor and not in the hard floor?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Depends on the model. If the boat has an inflatable keel, both the air deck and hard floor will have a hole up front so you can inflate the keel. If it's a flat bottom with no keel, it will not have a hole.

[@greenkeeper448]

I wasn't fully thinking it through as to witch one was better out on the bay, so this video greatly helps one decide their needs in the inflatable boat category. I got a brief look at your registration numbers and letters that are required by law, I think it would be interesting to many of us how you applied the registration to the boat.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I use a sharpie, it takes a little while to dry but it stays

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I'll make a video of it to show you how I did it.

[@greenkeeper448]

@@ErickMartinSucre I would have never thought of the Sharpie so that is a great simplifier right there, but yes even though these things to some seem elemental, showing just how you did it will be helpful.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@greenkeeper448 You have my word, I'll make the video. It May take me a few weeks but I'll get to it.

[@soonermagic24]

I’m worried about the floor of the boat is it stiff? It seems like it’s weak

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Been using it for years now. No issues here. You can stand as well if waters are calm.

[@tomworkman546]

I was wondering what pump you use to inflate your boats/kaboat

[@ErickMartinSucre]

This is the pump I use. Saturn Electric Air Pump: amzn.to/3pWXGe3 12v Battery: amzn.to/3oUPxW0 Battery tender: amzn.to/39VDjbv

[@JPpinball]

What kind of wheels do you have on the Kaboat? I was looking at similar wheels on Amazon as they looked like they wouldn’t get in the way of the motor when you are on the water but I was concerned about folding up the boat. Do they come off easily when you fold the boat up? Thanks. Currently deciding on transom wheels or a kayak cart for my Kaboat.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I got me these amzn.to/3mhPRPp They are not the best, but they are small and easy to deploy and fold back in. These wheels remain attached to the Kaboat as I fold it. I may need to make a quick review video of these wheels. Maybe I'll do it tomorrow morning since I have no plans tomorrow.

[@JPpinball]

@@ErickMartinSucre that would be awesome! We are really enjoying the Kaboat so far, your videos are great, they are pretty much what sold us on getting one.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Haha! Nice!! They are really neat 👌

[@jamesstuart3346]

I use Suspenz wheels, a strap-on type available on Amazon. They are super light and don't slide off on rough terrain

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Just looked them up. They look neat, bit pricey but neat.

[@CAMVANHA]

Hi bro i love your channel . Can i ask you a question: if i keep outboard motor on sd 470 on road with save transom so it will damage my boat ? Thank you

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It will not, however, you'll see that the transom bracket bolts have some holes in it, try and put a lock on it so ppl won't try and steal it.

[@loud7643]

Hey mate, as a prospective inflatable owner your channel has helped me a lot, so thank you! May I ask why you purchased your current Saturn model vs the catamaran design? I'm trying to decide between the designs and feel like the catamaran may be a bit more spacious, though whether that space in the open bow would be fully functional is another question... Cheers

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Hey thank you, glad I can be of help. Well, I wanted a Kaboat for running rivers and such since I already have a dinghy for when I travel large lakes and ocean waters. There are places where the Kaboat will go just fine like shallow rivers, that and the fact Saturn hasn't had any Catamarans for sale in years now. A KZbin follower purchased a Bris Inflatable Catamaran and he seems to like it.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

This is the Catamaran my follower purchased. amzn.to/3kVnjKp

[@ErickMartinSucre]

He posted a video and some pictures of the Catamaran on my Facebook group "The Muddy Feet Oasis" you're welcome to check it out

[@frankmills5284]

Any plans on trying out a catamaran?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Some viewers have offered for me to try it but have not planned for it yet.

[@chuck5114]

On the 2 kaboat that you have do you more wet in the normal or the xl ?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Normal. The XL is wider so it helps with the splash. The XL is better all the way.

[@jimmiecathey4724]

Great video. Where can I purchase the air floor mat from?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Depends on the model really. Sometimes Botstogo may have some for specific models, Ebay and Amazon carry some but you gotta measure the inside of your boat to see if it'll fit or not. Some models can only be used with their respective aluminum floors.

[@TrilobitesRTasty]

Mr. Sucre...may I ask your opinion of a Saturn Inflatable Dinghy versus the Saturn Inflatable Catamaran? For equal length vessels, it seems that the catamaran weighs less. Does the catamaran let a lot more water in the front, or is that not really true? (It seems the cat will offer more stability and length for the weight.) :)

[@ErickMartinSucre]

They haven't had the Catamarans in stocks for years now. Some of my viewers use the Bris model and they seem to like it. It is true, catamarans do not do good in high swells because the water can come in from the front. You'll do ok using it in calm waters and White caps

[@ErickMartinSucre]

This one amzn.to/33pQEom I recommend looking at some videos of it.

[@TrilobitesRTasty]

@@ErickMartinSucre Thank you very much for your reply! I'm planning on using it on lakes and calm rivers with just a Minn Kota trolling motor (not in the ocean or bays)....but even those waters can get some unexpected rough waters! I must consider the options. :)

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@TrilobitesRTasty You should be ok in those conditions.

[@raymondvolpe9794]

I watched almost all your Saturn videos. They are awesome thank you. Because of you I just got my new Saturn SK470 XL in green . And a Minnkota Endurance max 55 for now

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Nice choice! That is a massive kaboat too.

[@dariomendez4755]

Good video, because of your product reviews I purchased a saturn triton 13' dinghy and very satisfied. I also keep it indoors. I do Wonder if saturn will introduce a RIB version? Thanks for you hard work and fun videos.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Always a pleasure and thank you. As far as I am concerned, Saturn focuses mainly on SIB, but who knows, we may get a RIB in the future.

[@nfri6414]

Love the videos. I am thinking of getting the ZK430XL instead of the SK385XL due to the extra width and length. I really like the flat bottom on the 385 though for shallow water in small rivers and creeks. On the 430 can you just not inflate the keel all the way so that you would still have a flat bottom? Or does it not work that way?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It does work but it feels weird. It wobbles a bit

[@FeldwebelWolfenstool]

...if humping across difficult terrain or portaging isn't an issue, I'd say go with the bigger boat...

[@nfri6414]

@@ErickMartinSucre Would it interfere with getting on plane?

[@nfri6414]

@@FeldwebelWolfenstool Thanks for the advice, I am leaning that way.

[@ia6980]

One big draw back in these saturn boats is that they don't have handles on the inside, like takacat and truekit and others have, if youre in choppy weather its a must to have, especially if you're transporting other ppl

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I just crouch down, it works for me.

[@boatsandoutboards9070]

You can always customize your boat , and those add-ons don't cost much.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

That is true

[@boatsandoutboards9070]

@I A jump to 0:38 in this video It looks like Erick's sd385 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eorTmJewfK2ambs

[@boatsandoutboards9070]

And these guys crossed the Irish sea with 3 SIBs & 4 engines. Quite an adventure. It's worth watching kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKHTkK2aj9iFhMk

[@rommel-777]

Thank you Erick! Great content brother, going through all your videos 😀 Question, is the model Bris a good brand? I was looking for Saturn but they are basically sold out of almost all the models. Only the Bris is available for what I am looking at, 12' or greater. Thanks and God Bless you!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Hello there! Yes, I have some KZbin followers who use Bris and they say its a good brand. I think they have some Azurro models on the site. They are just as good as well.

[@10001694]

Erick, why don’t you use the 6 hp motor for the ka-boat?

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I could if wanted to yeah. 4hp is more than enough with just me in ot really. I plan on upgrading the carb so both can be 6hp

[@FeldwebelWolfenstool]

...I believe that it is possible to roll/flip my 385XL, while that would be more difficult to do with my previous Zodiac Fastroller 310....I think PVC is great. Store it out of direct sunlight. The 2001 Zodiac's fabric was still in very good condition after the transom rotted. The boat is still in use way up North, now with a canoe glued into it, lol... PVC holds air way better too.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

So PVC holds air better, I learned something new, thank you

[@maldrury8313]

Main advantage of the Kaboat seems to be it needs less power. Nice work on the comparison.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thank you kindly. Yes, since it is narrow and has less mass, you can go a little faster with less power.

[@alexandershtindler3042]

Hey man, been watching a bunch of your videos and ended up buying a kaboat. Just got my Mars mk385 and tohatsu 6hp outboard. I am looking to get wheels for it but the transom looks narrow. What wheels do you have on your kaboat and do you think they will work on mine? That you for any info!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I have the small ones that go at the bottom of the transom

[@ErickMartinSucre]

You can use standar transom wheels but you may need to remove one once in the water sp the tiller doesn't hit it.

[@alexandershtindler3042]

What brand are the wheels on your kaboat

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@alexandershtindler3042 These are the ones I am using on the small kaboat. amzn.to/3inEovz

[@josephbutler4925]

Hi Erik could you get back to me!! I am in my 70’s and I’m pretty good shape . Do you see this as a good choice for me to take my grandkids to fish, clam and crab in the bay!!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Those boats are around 80 pounds heavy. If you're able to carry that then you'll be ok.

[@samuelinnes9146]

You should do a video where you inflate and launch your boat and go fishing on it

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I've done the inflation one but I don't fish really. I just really like the adventure

[@rev1910]

Great review brother I'm getting a Kaboat thank you

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Woot woot! I love Kaboats

[@travisrolando8205]

Really great info Erick! Great comparison too!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thank you Travis! I viewer suggested it and it looks like folks liked it too.

[@travisrolando8205]

@@ErickMartinSucre You're very welcome! :) 👍🏻😎Really really good suggestion that viewer made! I really like it!

[@robertharrowfield9268]

another great vlog Erick ! looking good old mate .

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Haha! Old mate, first time someone calls me that I like it. Thank you kindly!!

[@paulmb90ify]

I have a 2018 zodiac typhoon 10ft but want something bigger...interested by the saturn 13 or 14 ft.How long have you had yours and hows it holding up? Thanks!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

The yellow one was with me for 2 years. I just got the grey one. The yellow one was a BB290, it held up nicely, but the oar paddle handles started to peel a little bit on the edges. I have already sold it and replaced it with a ZK380 Kaboat.

[@samuelinnes9146]

How long is the kaboat

[@ErickMartinSucre]

That one is 12 feet long.

[@ia6980]

Thank u

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Anytime 😊

[@aberum1798]

Thankyou. Well done and helpful.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

My pleasure and thanks for watching

[@karltraveldude7817]

Great job ! Thank you ... Enjoy

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thank you Karl, I appreciate it!

[@lupusdeum3894]

Awesome video. Thanks again!👍

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I appreciate that and thanks for watching 😊

[@yuszainimohdyusop6920]

Great info boss...

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thank you 😊 Have a good one!

[@yuszainimohdyusop6920]

@@ErickMartinSucre ✌😊👍

[@Smoke320]

Thank you for this video! It was very helpful.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching!

[@thatonebeone]

Try pool noodles on the kaboat and see how it performs as a keel

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Yes you could, you may need to use a lower PSI for the floor in that case. Instead of 10psi maybe use7-8psi.

[@FeldwebelWolfenstool]

.....y'all ain't really that dmasf***..

[@JoyZofSoRRoW]

@@FeldwebelWolfenstool there's another channel where they had a video sent to them from a customer. They took a 1" conduit pipe and bent the tip then wrap it in insulation and tape it to the bottom of the boat and then set in the Inflatable floorboard inside. The pipe bent at the right angle gave it a nice looking keel

[@CUBICHI1985]

Man!! great content as always!! Thanks for doing the comparison brother!! I (think I) was the one (if not, one of the few people) that asked for this comparison.. and thank you tremendously for making it and for the (anonymous) shout out.. lol and for future ref., you totally have my permission to say my name or KZbin username.. frankly it made me feel a lil famous 😂😂😂 when you did lol.. I dont have any content (yet....) but I hope to in the future.. cheers brother 🙋‍♂️🤙

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Yes, I think you were the one and remember agreeing to make it. Hope you liked it 8)

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Always a pleasure brother and thank you for watching. Be safe out there in the water!

[@theinflatableboatownersnet5684]

Great video.. thank you. Informative.

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thank you 😊

[@ia6980]

I have NOT SEEN Not even 1 saturn inflatable boat rushing through the ocean, just like takacat, zodiac and many others do, makes me wonder if saturn is a quality company or not, im thinking to spend more money and to get the one that was tested in the sea, lakes are nothing, they cant give you real handling of choppy waves and weather

[@ErickMartinSucre]

One sec, I'll get you a video

[@ErickMartinSucre]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKSZpp5mqLWSj68

[@ErickMartinSucre]

On that video I took my Saturn ZK380 to camp the night at Anclote Key.

[@ia6980]

@@ErickMartinSucre finally i found one, thank you! It be nice to see more videos in the sea

[@ErickMartinSucre]

@@ia6980 Anytime

[@joelelias2556]

I’d like to see someone paddle that with a kayak paddle….

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I've done it, kimds splashy

[@ErickMartinSucre]

The Saturn Sk396 is more like a Kayak. You can paddle on that one just fine cause I've done it.

[@joelelias2556]

@@ErickMartinSucre id love to see how that goes on video if ever possible, Erick. Cheers!

[@ErickMartinSucre]

It's kinda slow.

[@joelelias2556]

@@ErickMartinSucre can you do us a little demo, Eric?😃

[@wowfactor2838]

O that's tough I like the kaboat just bc it I's my preference but the dinghy is better (also I only go in lakes) love the vid also my last video hadn't boat in it!💖

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thank you for watching, I am glad you liked it 8)

[@stephenhill3861]

Top man sir thank you 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@ErickMartinSucre]

I appreciate it 8)

[@safawiawiee442]

Niceee👍👍👍

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thanks for watching!

[@safawiawiee442]

@@ErickMartinSucre 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@stephenhill3861]

👍👍👍💪🇬🇧

[@ErickMartinSucre]

Thank you, Stephen!! Enjoy the rest of your week!