Comparing Milwaukee 12 & 18 Volt Drills

[@RealToolReviews]

One thing that I really like about the M18 drills over the M12 versions are the grips....the 12v is thicker/bulkier since the battery slides into the grip....the 18v is thinner since the battery slides onto the bottom. Interesting test --- I'm surprised that they lasted so long on the compact packs drilling into that thick oak....thanks!

[@knecht105]

+Real Tool Reviews Yeah, to be honest, I was surprised too ... good point about the grips too

[@Sebastopolmark]

Great comparison Colin. I almost started crying when you brought out that nice piece of oak and made it into a camping colander. If I was considering additional batteries, I would buy 2 of the smaller ones for the price of one larger one. Like you say, if you are only using the battery for the drill, then one usually is sufficient, but if you are using other tools, then multiple batteries certainly have an advantage. Thanks again nor a non partial review.

[@knecht105]

+Sebastopolmark Yeah, hated to cut up the oak, but it was a chunk from my scrappy pile, but still had some good wood on it for something ... Thanks again for your comments, always good to hear

[@kevito666]

It is also great to have two separate batteries for intermittent working. Since the batteries tend to last 12 minutes of continuous use, and only take ~35 minutes to charge, it is better to have two to swap on the charger at all times. You rarely will be using continuous battery power.

[@maurovisser4359]

Sebastopolmark ik

[@jbb5470]

Nice to see the test. I too have the 18 volt Milwaukee drill and driver and love them. Have had them over a year and use them several times per week . Great tools! Thanks for the video

[@knecht105]

+Jb B Glad to hear, looking forward to a few years of good use

[@mushygirlsiniran]

46 holes for such a compact drill, the 12v version is amazing.

[@TheShavingWoodWorkshop]

This is a really great comparison between these two drills, and good information on the differences in the batteries.

[@knecht105]

+The ShavingWood Workshop Thanks Tommy

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

+The ShavingWood Workshop This test only shows if you drill small holes 12V is enough. Try use example 2 1/2 inch holesaw in 12V and you will saw that it can't drill many holes if any where 18V will do it ease.

[@chrisb561]

I have had the m12 impact for about two years and love it so much I bought the drill and another impact I use them mostly for hanging cement board and can't believe how many screws it will run on a battery

[@knecht105]

+Chris Barrett I know ... crazy isn't it, I love the 12volt units, they have really good battery life, and they are light to use, don't make you arm tired after just a few workings ... .. thanks Chris, great comment

[@rookrcreations]

I love my M18 drill. I also have a rigid set, which is what I used before, but the M18 is my go to drill since buying it. I use it to drill 1" holes in double/triple headers/studs with a speedbor bit (the biggest reason for switching to me), drill through metal siding with unibits etc, with no problems. Drilling through some metal siding with unibits the m12 can do it, but not nearly as well. We actually did this the other day, and switched to the m18 mid hole because of how long it was taking ( comparitively ). The battery life is excellent on both. What I found more impressive was the m18 rotary tool, we did a job drilling 3/4" holes in tilt walls probably close to the same amount of holes you drilled in the video on one of the drills ( i don't remember the exact count ).

[@drivesideways6550]

Your video made me happy with my purchase (M12). Couldn't afford the more expensive one at the time. Seems the 12 volt is more than adequate. Thanks!

[@JustMakeIt]

Did you consider the M12 Fuel drill? It has power like that M18, but in the form of an M12 and you can use you're existing batteries. Another benefit to the Fuel series aside from more power is the battery consumption is better than the regular models. I have the M12 Fuel drill and impact and they're fantastic stuff.

[@knecht105]

+Just Make It I did consider the M12 Fuel but somewhere had to make some choices. I would love to try that out some time, maybe a future video .. thanks for the info on it, sounds like something we should do some time

[@mylesmastersen3520]

Just bought the m12 fuel gen 2 and let me tell you, it’s a beast. I’ve been using an 18volt brushed drill all year and it sucks. It gets hot quickly, to the point you can’t hold it when using holesaws in metal studs. The m12 fuel outperforms the brushed m18 by leaps and bounds.

[@ronc5386]

Yes often wondered what the difference is in those drills. I know when you go into those big box stores the amount of cordless products blows your mind, let alone which volts should you go with. So thanks for the comparison test Colin

[@Boomers_Bud]

A Great video Colin. I use the DeWalt 18 V Drill and Impact Driver Sets and I purchased the DeWalt 12 V impact Driver. I use the 18 V drill for all of my drilling needs and I use the 12 V for driving screws which I absolutely enjoy using because of the power it has and it lasts forever. Milwaukee does have some great power tools and the only drawback I seem to have noticed is the one battery coming with the tool quite often. This was a great topic Colin and I enjoyed getting your take on these tools. Cheers Amigo. Derek

[@knecht105]

+GiddyUp994 I think what you are doing is exactly what I will end up doing too, using 2 different voltage sizes for different purposes Thanks Derek

[@justin456]

Bought the 12Ah battery, legend has it he is still drilling holes to this day.

[@bruindebate05]

Very informative. Thanks for sharing that information. I am looking to expand my 12 volt line. I have the 1/4 ratchet and I love it. I would really like the drill, driver, and screwdriver.

[@jamiereader]

It would be interesting to see the comparison with a brand new version of the 12V system to account for battery wear and motor wear on your 'used' 12V drill.

[@knecht105]

+Jamie Reader Good point Jamie, something I should have noted, the battery in the 12V was from my newest tool which had maybe 3 or 4 charges on it. I know this because it looks a bit different than my other batteries, so it was a pretty up-to-date battery although not brand new. Thanks for the comment .. very good point, and I still wonder about the battery wear and if I had use one of my oldest batteries what that would have done ... hmmm ... now you have me wondering too :)

[@toolify]

That surprised me! I would have expected the 18V to make many more holes. Thanks for the comparison, it sure looked like hard work to repeatedly drill so many holes.

[@AwesomeWoodThings]

+FastEasySmartTOOL Me too!

[@pctatc66]

+FastEasySmartTOOL Same here. Id like to know if either the 12v or the 18v are brushless drills? I doubt the 18v is because of the 100 dollar price you paid. if I were a betting man Id wager a brushless motor will get you substantially more holes with the same amp hour battery.

[@knecht105]

+FastEasySmartTOOL The battery in the 18v was the smallest available, had I purchased a drill with the bigger capacity battery, you are correct, it would have done a lot more but I wanted to try and keep them as close in comparison as possible ... maybe another time I will compare some larger capacity versions

[@knecht105]

+Scott Kaye The brushless 18v is the top of the line ... a very nice drill, especially if you are using it a lot, all day long, more power, longer battery life - but a higher price too, and a much heavier tool to hold and carry around. Always pros and cons isn't there :) I guess like many things it boils down to what you want to use if for and how often.

[@brentsido8822]

Used my m12 to drill put a 3/4 hole in metal door frame with a carbon toothed hole saw. Worked although slower than my m18 but still sometimes that lack of weight in the m12 is nice fits in my tool bag too!!

[@IvanRossS]

I bought m12 set and happy with it. It's smaller, lighter and not that big of a differents!! I had Craftsmen 12v for few year, it was time for upgrade

[@javiergiovane3818]

Hi Colin. While I like and appreciate your videos, I just wanted to mention some more accurate points. Ah or mAh refers more battery capacity than it does battery power. A more accurate comparison may have been a ratio of amount of holes and/or time to make the holes over the respective mAh capacity of the battery. Otherwise, keep up the great work. Still a huge fan!

[@vdubride]

i love this review. so thorough and calculating the opportunity and value of key metrics. rad. good job.

[@hardnox6655]

Nice comparison Colin. Milwaukee makes some first rate tools. They've made some lemons too especially where it converns the trigger switches which are very expensive to replace. All my cordless stuff is DeWalt 18V and I use their extended run batteries only. Higher voltage will always result in longer operating times before battery changes which is very important while on the job but not as critical in the shop where the charger is nearby.

[@knecht105]

+Hardnox Thanks buddy for your comment and knowledge .. appreciate it

[@julyparin4432]

Thanks for sharing comparison of 12v & 18v. Am about to buy one, but have to see the difference first. 12v having 46 holes is great. Less cheaper and efficient.

[@tomvermeulen1082]

You left out how long it took the 12-volt to drill the holes and the relative costs of it? I already own a whole bunch of 18-volt stuff that will do the big work. I've got the Milwaukee fuel 18-volt version of virtually everything. however I'm looking for something small and compact and I really like the 12 volts that have no big block sticking out the bottom of the handle. So I'm looking at bos ch and obviously Milwaukee. But I've had really good experiences with Porter-Cable and I can't seem to find anybody that has a good comparison between the two. Anyway thank you for your video, you have a great personality and make things fun to watch.

[@louisscott1063]

I always felt the same way. the 12 volts were just easier on my 70 year old hands but the 18 would stay working longer, although the hands still hurt but over time I learned to tell which one I need & go with it. In my shop I need both.

[@knecht105]

+louis scott Good point Louis, yup, I still love the 12 volt systems

[@edwaggonersr.7446]

I use a little 12V Makita drill/impact driver combo set almost every day. If I needed to drill 59 holes I would break out the corded drill. I like small drill/drives better than big powerful drills for most of what I do, which is tenant repairs for a property management company. Good video.

[@knecht105]

+Ed Waggoner Sr. (Papatch) I had the older version of the same thing you now have Ed, it had good power for most things

[@Ducati_Dude]

You should have mentioned that only one battery at a time can charge in that M12/18 combo charger.

[@peterorth2149]

nice test. you are a good bloke. Aussie slang for good guy

[@kevito666]

Just wondering if you tested the 12V with a brand new fresh battery or if you used one that you have been using for a while? The older, used batteries tend not to charge to as high a capacity as a new one and tend to discharge quicker (more heat).

[@RoborobsComputers]

I would say the 12vlt is great for around the house jobs things not needing the power of an 18vlt. My question would be how long did it take you to drill the holes and how clean were they. you said the 18vlt took 12 mins to do the 56 holes what about the 12vlt.

[@jasonhull2163]

Do a 12 v comparison with both Milwaukee 18 v and 12 v brushess and same amp hour battery. The new 12vs are monsters.

[@carllam9456]

There are a few flaws in your test. First, comparing an old M12 battery to a new M18 battery. Second, the number of holes you can drill is a direct function of the capacity of the battery. Larger battery = more lasting power. If you put in an 8.0Ah battery into your M18, I'm sure you'd get way more holes but your wrist is not going to be your friend. The thing with M12 is that they're great compact tools, M18 is for more battery capacity options. Interesting video nonetheless. You look like a friendly guy!

[@gregorylondos534]

Hello Colin, Your test was based on the Battery platform more so than usage/uses... How do the compare when it comes to Brute force verses Finesse with smaller projects like Cabinet drawer glides Hinges and hardware...? Greg Londos

[@shanemelville]

I have Milwaukee tools as well. I have both 12v & 18v tools. I also have their portable table saw which has their 12.0 18v amp hour battery its very big it takes about an hour to charge it in their rapid charger. I love my milwaukee tools. I like the fact I can inter change the batteries plus my small garage has only 2 out lets & since I'm renting its nice I have allot of tools that are battery powered. The only down fall is the table saw when the battery dies I can use one of my smaller 18v but it struggles on those batties I'm looking at getting another 12.0 amp hour but they are $200. I built a stand & out feed tables on my table sawthat pop up so its completely portable

[@Honman0029]

Interesting topic I have been thinking about upgrading my (Green) Bosch Ni-Cd drill for a (Blue) Bosch Drill and Impact Driver twin set that comes with 3x 1.5aH Batteries, and I have to admit that all of the marketing about 4.0 aH batteries being so much better than 3.0 (and therefore exponentially "better" than 1.5's) has made me a little wary that they would run out of power too quickly. But your reasoning at the end of the vid certainly gives me food for thought. Just a shame UK prices aren't as low as they are on your side of the pond :) Great vid as always

[@meanders9221]

+Honman0029 I have several Bosch tools. They are good quality, and all made in Taiwan. Are the ones available in the UK all made in Germany? That could explain the price difference.

[@Honman0029]

+Michael Anderson to be honest im not sure if they are German or Taiwanese, but pretty much the big difference on price is down to things generally being more expensive in the UK. The twin set I am looking at costs £189 (for the GSB1800 Drill, GDR18-Li Driver, 3 batteries a charger and LBoxx case), this comes out to about $290 US. Just the price we pay (and pay) for living in the UK I guess :)

[@knecht105]

+Honman0029 Thanks for your comments ... there are lots of choices which means you can buy something that fits your needs better

[@-NoneOfYourBusiness]

It all depends on what you do. Personally, I use the much lighter, compact 12 volt drill for general tasks and for everything else (heavier tasks) I use my corded drills (Milwaukee as well). I don't have a use for these heavy, bulky 18, 20 (scam) or 32 volt drills.

[@w0mblemania]

Thanks for the comparison, Colin. That 12V did very well indeed, especially on such a tough job. Sadly, even the 12V is too expensive for me here in Australia. Here, Techtronic market the Milwaulkee as the premium, pro brand, with a price to match. Then they sell AEG (sold as Ridgid in the US) in the next tier. (Still very pricey.) Then they have Ryobi as the bottom/DIY tier. I'd like to get the Milwaulkee, but it's just too much. I like the look of the Makita 10.8V compact drill.

[@knecht105]

+w0mbles Interesting to hear what things are sold in other countries .. thanks

[@MrAbdullhali]

dear Collin I think the main difference between the two is the torque is higher in the 18v the number of holes depend on the battery amps and the drill consumption

[@knecht105]

+Abdullh Ali Yes, I believe you are correct

[@WigWagWorkshop]

Great video Colin! I'm on team yellow, but won't hold that against you LOL.... Great comparison, on the differences between the 2 options. I do agree Milwaukee has been knocking it out of the park with their innovation lately. I have stated this before, I wish for the day that tool batteries would become universal between manufactures, just like the AAA, AA, D, C and so on, batteries are. -Steven

[@knecht105]

+WigWagWorkshop Thanks Steven ... yes the yellow machine makes good tools, super popular too

[@itamarkas]

Hi, Great review. I'm DIYer and wonder in the M12 will be good for works with 2" or 3" plywood or other hard wood? Thanks!

[@kjsinsaino]

this was awesome! just bought a 12v today!

[@patrickbairamian5420]

thank you for posting this - GREAT review!

[@tooljunkie555]

no kiddin i was debating buying the m18 ..that was interesting .good to know all the specs on both o those

[@knecht105]

+Joe basementwoodworking Glad it was helpful, thank Joe .. always good to hear from you

[@Starlyndesign]

Nice experiment ! thank you for this.... very helpful

[@crashgsxr750]

Is that a fuel version of the M12 ? It makes a big difference

[@ronroberts8036]

Other considerations: How much faster is the 18 V with its greater power? And, the 12 has larger batteries available just like the 18V. And, I would think the 12 is easier to use in small areas and just nicer to use due to its lighter weight.

[@AlbertoMartinez-rk2lf]

Hi! great comparison! I would like to know how long did it take you to do the same amount of holes, I mean, you did 46 holes with 12 v drill, I'd like to know how long did it take you to drill these 46 holes with 12 v drill and 18 v drill. Because the battery doesn't make a huge difference, I hope 18 v drill is more powerful and you can do the same work faster. If not, what is the point to buy a 18 v drill? it's hevier, more expensive, ...

[@knecht105]

+Alberto Martínez I think it took something like 20 minutes because I had to keep cooling the drill bit off, yeah, the 12 volt did a great job but also the 18 volt was the smallest battery possible in that one

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

+Alberto Martínez Try same test with 1-Inch Spade Drill and you will see difference on what 18V can do vs. 12V.

[@Bright8888]

Thanks for the comparison between the two drills. Don't you think you should also have mentioned the current price of the two drills so that the comparison is useful for a buying decision?

[@knecht105]

+Bala Chandar Yeah, that price has already changed too ... oh well, it was what it was at the time

[@michaelleddy3701]

Just purchased the 12 volt combo

[@petervall4626]

Interesting idea for a video, but with all the cordless tools, and you sort of touched on it at the end, it's all about choosing a battery. With Milwaukee there were improvements just from lithium ion to there red lithium ion. You can jump up and get the 4 ah 12v and probably more than double the work you did in this video. You didn't actually say which battery you were using with the 12v. 1.5? 2.0? Was it a Red? Same goes for the 18v. I have a cordless 18v circ. Saw, struggles to run through plywood with the 2 ah batteries. Throw a 4 or 5 ah on it and it will last an entire day cutting 2X4's on a charge. All the tools are basically the same and cost the same, it's about batteries now, and that's how they will keep you with a brand. Like if you want to upgrade to brushless, well you already have a brands batteries so you will stick with it. Just get educated on the batteries, none of the tools that come with batteries come with the high output ones. If you just need drills like for your wood shop, probably would of been smarter to just buy a couple 4ah batteries for your 12v than enter a whole new more expensive category in the 18's.

[@danieldibiaso9342]

Are both of your tools the older brush type. The new Fuel brushless have more power and longer battery life.

[@Rickmakes]

Was the larger drill significantly faster in drilling holes?

[@knecht105]

+RickMakes Yes it was, something I should have mentioned ... thanks Rick for pointing this out

[@BJHermsen]

The larger capacity batteries are a huge improvement when using it for driving screws in mass such as framing with construction screws or decking. For general in shop use though the small battery saves on weight and is more than adequate. An xc4 battery on a brushed milwaukee drill will outlast 8 Dewalt nicd batteries

[@knecht105]

+BJ Hermsen Great comments ... thanks BJ

[@andandy3577]

have you updated this test with the new m12 fuel line?

[@erikandreassen6531]

were they both lithium batteries? I found with the old Ni Cad cells they slowed down so you knew they needed charging the new lithium just stop as you found out, in the middle of doing a hole. That said lithium are charge any time (same as a cell phone) no memory where with ni cad's you had to be careful not to short charge them as you loose battery function. It would be nice if the lithium had some sort of charge/battery state display, saves you leaving the drill in a deep hole :-)

[@knecht105]

+Erik Andreassen Yes, both lithium ... yeah, the old NiCads are not nearly as good ... I am so happy to have these newer versions of batteries. THanks Erik

[@Colaaah]

I was going to mention until you did that your battery time comes down to your battery ah. I just bought a new Milwaukee, my old one came with a 4ah battery and my new one came with a 6ah and you can also buy a 12ah battery now. The difference between your 12v and your 18v should add more torque (strength) in your drilling. I'd be curious to know how low it takes your 12v to your 18v how long it takes each drill to do 30 holes?! That should do a decent test on the torque of your drills...

[@knecht105]

I'll look at doing more tests in future videos! Thanks for watching.

[@adk3595]

Why not use a 4amp battery on both and test?

[@brandonjohnson7559]

adam k it would have taken twice the amount of time to do the tests

[@james10739]

A lot of the drill companies have 12v and 18v but most of them have the same kind of connection like the 18v for both so you dont notice the ability to do both

[@Airtouch67]

What a GREAT video and comparison.. thanks so much for posting ! Really helpful in my decision to buy a drill :-).

[@deanslegos1990]

I watched this video about 2018 and never even heard of Milwaukee. I remember being really surprised that a 12v drill could drill a 3/8 hole XD

[@Iegend17]

Wait so is the 18v faster than the 12v ?

[@thetylife]

So higher voltage does not mean more powerful drill? It just means it has a bigger battery..., heavier but lasts longer before it needs to be charged? I was wondering if I should get this B&D 20 v drill set with 30 drill bits set on sale for $42 or this $49 set with a B&D 12 v drill , comes with a bag with 64 piece project kit...have all the basic tools, hammer ,pliers, wrench, bits..etc....I'm thinking I'll go with the latter if theres no difference power wise.

[@AMalas]

thetylife NO! go with 20! i have it and you dont want less! also the 20v saw is so good! now Milwaukee is different to bnd, so not everything in this vid holds

[@sunnyislam9595]

Per 6:15 min in the video: 46 holes from 12 V and 59 holes from 18 V. So 28.26% more holes in 18 V one. Per 7:06 min, they both took 35 min to charged fully from 0% to 100%. So it looks like 18V deliver better result with same level of time.

[@davidsuzukiispolpot]

Edited: Sorry, around the 8-minute mark you said that the "Amp-hour" rating was the power. You probably meant "energy" which is how much work it can do. Power is the rate at which the work can be done (or the energy can be used). The rate means per time. At the same AmpHr rating, the 18-volt battery would have 50% more energy.

[@handsomehippo]

Jack, you are confusing terms. Amp-hour is NOT "ampacity". Amp-hour is a measure of how much charge can be stored, i.e. energy or work. "Ampacity" refers to current rating, as in how many amps a component can safely carry according to electrical standards.

[@davidsuzukiispolpot]

Thank you for the correction and education. I have hopefully edited the original statement to delete the error, in case someone is wondering why you made this reply.

[@t76d777f6d]

Amp-hour capacity is not how much energy or work is stored. What you're looking for is watt-hours which is voltage * amp-hours. So a 18v 5ah (90 watt-hour) battery is capable of doing 50% more work than a 12v 5ah (60 watt-hour) battery.

[@greygoosemafia]

I have the 18v Milwaukee. 4amp/hr xc nice set up. You have the little battery

[@knecht105]

+Richard Cowtails Yes I did get it with the smaller battery

[@greygoosemafia]

+WoodWorkWeb great set up. best in the business, my opinion. I've had milwaukee dewalt makita. I like milwaukee the best. the new brushless from dewalt is IMPRESSIVE!

[@apinakapinastorba]

I love to use corded drill for bigger jobs. Drills much cleaner too compared to cordless, at least on softwood.

[@knecht105]

+apinakapinastorba I agree, can't beat coreder for bigger jobs, thanks for making the comment

[@lightshine6044]

Can you tell me the model number for M18 drill?

[@teckchyetan1884]

hiya, would you know the cost of the 12v battery ? For comparison..... the way I see it, 46 isn't that far off from 56. Maybe if the 12v battery/Drill is alot cheaper, the 12v isn't that bad an option....

[@knecht105]

+Teck Chye Tan Good point on the cost of the 12 battery, I did not look that up ... great idea, I will do that

[@aktamakov]

You said that m12 didn't have as much power as you need at times. Did you mean that run time on m12 was not good or an actual power of the drill? I mean, is m12 budging down or not able to drill through wood even on the full battery charge or meaning that it just runs out of the power faster? Thanks

[@urjnlegend]

Bogdan Aktamakov I'm pretty sure it isn't as powerful overall. Most users say it's the same thing, but for drilling all day, you want the m18. From what I've seen, light users, say service techs or residential electricians or maintainence, aren't drilling all day, and can "get away" with only the 12v. From my experience with a dewalt 20v max brushless industrial, vs the Makita 12v, the Makita is just a hair and i mean hair weaker, but basically 90 percent the same thing. I wouldn't want to rely on the Makita day after day after day of continuous, construction heavy duty use, perhaps it's just my head, but imo, I'd use the Makita as a quick drill, that can do the same things the 20V can do, but I'd moreso let the 20v take the bigger chunk of work so to say. The runtime is longer, but those 12V last, I tell you what

[@aktamakov]

urjnlegend thank you very much for a good reply. I noticed the same thing. For each line of work, I prefer certain drills. When I work on the cabinet installs, I always go to m12 drills because they are light and fit anywhere. When I do framing, it’s always m18

[@beefuzzy310]

The M12's are a bit weak(even the fuel), but they make a high pitched whine that drives my dogs crazy. I ended up going to the box store and pulling every trigger just to make sure. Wanted to go with Milwaukee but it was a deal breaker.

[@jimholladay2383]

It would have been useful to have known the model numbers on the two drills. Were either of the drill brushless etc.?

[@lbrennvall]

+Jim Holladay None of them are brushless. If they were, they'd have "FUEL" written on the side.

[@DesolationRobot]

+Lars Erik Brennvall Milwaukee does make brushless 18v drills that aren't branded "Fuel". But they do say "Brushless" across the body.

[@czerwinskijck]

I can't find ammount Ah's of 12V (18V 1,5Ah) also how long it took to drill holes also by 12V (18V 12 mins)

[@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING]

I enjoyed your video very much. I own a Dewalt and Makita. Now I want Milwaukee drill...after watching this.!

[@knecht105]

+ESCAGEDO WOODWORKING DeWalt and Makita make great tools .. love'm too

[@jesussantoyo4557]

what is the difference between a 12v vs 18v impact when ever they have the same torque specs 1200 in pounds?

[@urjnlegend]

Jesus Santoyo do they?

[@martylucas8557]

Really to be a more apples to apples comparison between the M12 and 18 drills, the M12 should have been running the 4.0 ah XC battery. There would’ve been more equivalent power vs the M18.

[@davesworld1972]

how does the two drills handle screws?

[@markevans3779]

Thanks for showing your comparison test...... cordless power tool batteries are so expensive..... I only buy cordless power tools that are supplied with at least two batteries so I can keep one on charge whilst using the other.... I always wait for the sales for a good deal.......those two drills look like good value for $100

[@knecht105]

+Mark Evans Yes you are correct on the expense, yes it depends what you are using the tools for, I was surprised that both batteries fully charged in 35 minutes, for me in my workshop that would be more than adequate for most project I would tackle ... if I were an electrician in the field, they would not be. I guess that is why there are so many choices .. something for everyone

[@deenworks5980]

Which is more important in cordless drill ,,, torque or VOLT

[@The_Crazy_Monkey75]

If the 12v has enough power to drill that thick wood, then I guess it's good enough. Milwaukee has a 12v extended capacity "M12 RedLLithium" 3.0 (3 amp hr - 100% more capacity) and 4.0 (4 amp hr - 166% more capacity) battery compared to the standard 12v 1.5 amp hr. It will surely drill a whole lot more holes than the standard 18v drill.

[@Bryansky8]

Good day Sir, sell your 12V tools to me. I'd like to get them. Nice video by the way. Really informative

[@johnlord8337]

10* Great vid. No to do these against all the rest of the other makers and see how all they all drill up. Consumer's Reports!

[@knecht105]

+John Lord There ya go .... always good to see what other find out too.

[@FyrFytr998]

I’m late to the party, but I see everyone dropping 12v systems now. It’s been my observation that 18v and up do better in overall power and time savings. Where 12v shines in applications where a full sized unit would be too big for tight spaces, or too heavy or overhead and extended reach. I guess it really boils down to the users personal preferences, and picking a unit that checks the boxes most important to them if they can’t afford both.

[@brothyr]

The higher voltage means there are more cells (batteries) inside the pack which increase the voltage but more importantly, the amperage. The motor efficiency plays a role in all of this but it's really down to the battery pack's Watt-hours/amp-hours. I bet if you wired a car's 12V lead-acid battery into the 12V Milwaukee, it'd well outlast the 18V.

[@knecht105]

+Adam R very good points Adam ... never thought about using a car battery, kind of a cool idea

[@jamesyers1975]

One way to look at amp hr is to think about a gas tank in a car. The more gallons/amp hrs the farther u can go. Basically a 12v 4 amp hr batt will last longer than a 12v 2 amp hr batt just like 4 gal of gas in a car will last longer than 2 gal.

[@tanhidden3388]

you should not compare in this way how many hole is depend on the AH of the battery 18V is the power which produce more torque not the AH

[@robertdillon9989]

What I wanted to know is how did the power feel when you were drilling between the two you never answered that? Oh well

[@ExoTipps]

I normally do really like your Videos, but as a woodworker you should know, that you never put much pressure on a drill,because it stresses the motor and bearings (and small drill bits brake) + always move the drill up and down, so the chips can come out while drilling....

[@knecht105]

+Simon Makes I like to put these Milwaukees through their paces ... these are such solid drills and drivers I think you could stand on them to drill. I don't know what they make them out of but they are super strong ... my 12v driver has driven boxes of 4" screws in the reno I did a couple years ago, I thought I would kill that poor like unit for sure, but NO ... it still works as well now.

[@ExoTipps]

That's true! Thank you for the answer :-)

[@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat]

well everything goes down to power. No matter how much volts. you can have lower voltage but more amps, and vise versa

[@alexey207]

M12 will drill concrete?

[@RadenkoPetkovicRPWOODWORK2015]

Test the 18v with lover speed, slower turning will make more holes because you vesting power on high speed

[@knecht105]

+Radenko Petkovic (RP WOODWORK) That is true .. good point

[@urjnlegend]

The difference between the m12 and m18 are just like your two arms. You don't want to just lift with your right arm all day, and you don't want to try to use your left arm as you would your right all day. You let the right arm do most the work, and your left arm helps the right arm out. Unless you're ambidexterous, then you want dewalt 20V max in each hand, as they're the same thing as the m18, except even lighter, and Imo, the better drill for all day use.

[@danr1920]

I wonder how the current 2020 drill compares. I would guess that the battery has more power. Electric cars have improved in the last 5 years.

[@TheMichaelJu]

How wobble are the chuck on 18v milwakee cordless drill?

[@grahamsmith6474]

The battery charger is a "first in" charger. It will only charge one battery at a time, starting with whichever one was inserted first. It will not charge them both simultaneously. Nice comparison though.

[@lasersharp22]

All you did was test the battery life of 2 batteries on 2 separate platforms.... Get a 5ah get more life. What were you trying to yield from your experiment?

[@majormaccas]

This didn’t really give any insight into the differences between 12v and 18v, this just compared battery sizes. If you had a 4Ah battery on the 12v it would have drilled more holes than the 18v with its 1.5Ah.

[@NYPAULY1]

Propitiatory power sources are a pain and they are expensive! Interesting comparison.

[@knecht105]

+Paul St George I agree Paul, it would be nice if there were some standards in batteries.

[@wilborth5th]

So basically they both have the same power the difference is the endurance that changes, I’m not gonna be surprise if they both use the same motor

[@peterhaughton1759]

Colin just a wee Question for you regarding my batteries I have three dewalt cordless drills two with brushes and one beast of a one .the thing is as am not doing any wood work for the winter will my batteries be OK and ready to start using them again in the spring you're feed back would be most appreciated Peter fae Scotland cheers my friend.

[@Sco777owel1]

46 against 59 hole for the 18 V, captain flies out

[@LZACCARO]

Hi Colin, great video. Congrats. L.ZACCARO

[@knecht105]

+L ZACCARO Thanks again :)

[@AMalas]

now just notice how much faster the 18v is? also try the black and Decker 18 volts... its much better than the Milwaukee!

[@urjnlegend]

Anas Malas you're crazy. Black and Decker is worse than ryobi