Comparing the John Deere 1025R and 2025R Compact Utility Tractors

[@andrewkroeger5794]

That's the best comparison video for these two tractors that I have seen-Thank you!

[@wildandliving]

I went 1025r lower to the ground less likely to tip over. Yes the backhoe drags on a hill but soft dirt and the loader smoothed that out quickly

[@PoisonShot20]

What year is yours? And how is holding so far? I just bought one yesterday, 2019 with LM& Backhoe, in excellent condition, 147 hours, Backhoe was barely used. I'm learning how to operated all the functions. Had a Kubota bx, much smaller on hp, it was the discontinued model, bx1500, 900 hours no issues, but I need a little bigger tractor, and the BX23s I didn't like, lifting capacity on the FEL not so good.

[@davidcarleton6928]

Everyone misses the biggest advantage to the larger tires on the 2025r! Increased 3 point attachment clearance! The 1025r is "limited" in how high it can lift attachments. My rear blade, when properly mounted catches on the street curb. Likely would not happen with the added height of the 2025r. Just another consideration!

[@richardnoel5962]

Replace the solid left lift arm with the same as the adjustable right arm and turn it up; you'll gain 4" more or less.

[@mikegraziano1562]

When looking at the back of the 2 tractors side by side the 2025R rear axle is WAY stronger & bigger...like 2x the size, the 1025R looks like a lawn tractor rear end....the 2025R will also lift 400lb more at the 3 point lift. The 2025R with forks can unload a pallet off an 18 wheeler, the 1025R can'r reach that high. The large tires will hold A LOT more Beat Juice. You'll need 8' high garage doors for the 2025R unless you lower the ROPS each time.

[@dennisbarrett6148]

Excellent vidio. Good info and no beating around the bush.

[@RCplanesrfun]

what about hydraulic pressures? They may be running the same loader but if the 2025r relief valve is turned up higher it will be able to lift and curl more.

[@mattkulesza7766]

RCplanesrfun that’s the question I was wondering about too!

[@bigg7882]

No it’s the same 900 lbs

[@Mike-mn9xo]

I have a 1025r and my buddy has 2025r can lift exact same weight. Biggest advantage is the 2025r can dump into a truck unlike the 1025

[@sgtcrab2569]

I have a 1023E which other than a few appointments is the same as a 1025. No problems. I have 54 in mower deck and a Frontier 54 inch blower (rear mount) I mow a lot of grass (4 acres in a few sites) and do numerous driveways in Winter. We usually get lots of snow in Nova Scotia. Loader bucket is fine for anything I have ever had to do. Full buckets with fill or gravel. I looked at replacing with a 2025 but there seems to be no advantage for the price point. The only complaint I have on the 1023E is that the stock turf tires (6 years ago) are garbage. I have had numerous punctures from sticks and even a thorn. Plugged a few but in the end put in tubes. However they have a newer radial available which looks better. Turf tires are superior to industrial or farm for snow traction. More ground contact. I put rear chains on this year and it is really worth the $200 in Canada, however I avoid road travel as much as I can. . I won't spend the extra (2025) for little or no power advantage though my dealer is forever asking me if I want to "upgrade""..

[@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644]

Good comparison. With the larger tires also comes a lot more weight if you fill the tires plus bigger footprint is a big advantage for traction.

[@speedbuggy6269]

I am aware that this video is over a year old however, I own a 2021 John Deere 1025r TLB. I believe the video was pretty much on point at the time that the video was posted. I have the radial tires for all 4, the HP rating is 23.9. I agree with one of the commenters and the representative that the ground clearance is limited, I have a tiller that hits my lawn every time the ground is uneven when the tiller is as high as it can go while transporting from one point to another. Another thing to consider is that with the mower deck on, it doesn’t lift as far as I’d like, I was pretty surprised the first time I saw it at home, I thought there was something wrong with it or that I was missing something. If you have uneven ground for a lawn, you might want to consider a 3pt hitch mower. As far as comparing the 1025 with the 2025, (yes, I fought with myself for a few days after digging into the manager and before deciding on the 1025) The 2025 is a couple of hundred pounds heavier, that and the tires are larger, prompting you to want to fill them with more beet juice for more traction thereby adding even more weight, and remember it has the same horsepower. When you have a tractor that you purchase so it can work for you and that tractor is the size of the 1025 or 2025 you want every pound to count. In my opinion, the 2025 weighs more thereby using that much more power and torque, especially when climbing a hill. IMHO if you put both machines side by side and had a way to measure HP and torque being used, and set up both machines at the same RPM on the same up hill slope, with both machines rear tires loaded to their maximum, all other things being equal, the 2025 would take more “energy” to climb the hill simply because it weighs more but has the same HP as the 1025. BLUF: you’re pushing more weight with the same engine with no load.

[@number6990]

Difference in turning radius?

[@elis51501]

6 months ago I bought a 2022 1025r with a front loader and rear rotary mower, would have bought the 2025 but for the difference in price I felt having the rotary mower was more important then a longer wheel base. Although the 2025 is a very cool tractor. If I was to do it again I would probably buy the 2025 for the cool appeal, and would’ve just saved a bit more for the rotary mower🤷🏽‍♂️

[@michaelchadwick3497]

2019 weights are 1444 vs 1793 lbs.

[@DH-mf2lv]

Thank you very much for the review. Helps a lot!

[@TheFarmingLife]

Thanks for the video. I found it very useful and interesting. Hope you have a wonderful day

[@benjaminanthony5201]

What he said

[@lisapuckett8463]

The 2025r also has a higher hydrolic capacity than the 1025r. I belive it's about 3-4GPM faster on the 2025r. Which means faster steering and, attachments that need more hydrolic fluid to run can on the 2025r. Thanks for the video!

[@MJF40]

Less than 1 GPM more. Hydro plus is the answer 🤓

[@edwardwhite221]

Excellent video. Fast and loaded with facts. Well done Sir

[@J_T_1]

Informative and to the point. Great video!

[@johnserrano9689]

None of the newer "small" tractors could ever hold up to my "needs" or my Land. The older 650-750 would be the smallest I could ever use. I hate the new aluminum housings, 5" of ground clearance and all the electronic everything. But they're absolutely the best ever for city boys with a couple acres, looking for the absolute best money can buy. I have the last model of the Deere 1050. 37hp (actually 41hp Deere didn't want to pay for higher certification of 40 hp!) Built by Yanmar. Deere demanded 100% heavy steel everything, far overbuilt coolant system, much stronger gears, axles housings over non turbo 950 but used the same clutch. It's the last model ever with big heavy steel to steel gears BUT non synchro. It's bulletproof as it gets. Has over 16" ground clearance, 52" rears. That's the best possible tractor money can buy for MY person needs/location period. She's far stronger than any new tractor, but nothing but a damn nightmare when it comes to "lawn" use! Shedding all weight possible she still slaughters dry ground, it's useless on my finish lawn. The newer tractors are better than they e ever been for that use, hell even up to the 3 series is the best, which is why they all have aluminum housings! The 4 series have the old school, super stronger steel housing (my older yanny built Deere is thicker and bigger than it still though) They have been so adapted, so refined to the MAJORITY of their real world use this is where we've ended up. Yeah they've completely lost their usability for myself and my Land entirely (my usage would pop the rear PTO damage the bottom end off all the rocks, ruts and stumps, probably burn the hydro digging through all the gravel with front loader, crack the aluminum frame using the Backhoe to dig up the big "potato's" the stumps and running drainage lines aswell as electric supply to garage/sheds, lamp posts..... That's the point though, it is solely up to YOU nobody else to get the PROPER tractor for your needs. Always find out what tractor you need, the minimum HP to run implements you needs, then buy the next size up! I was fortunate to grow up on a smaller vegetable Farm so I knew tractors (and horses believe it or not lol) since I was a young Buck. The old timers may not have any clue wth is going on with the newer tractors but their experience is still 100% valid. There will always be a couple jobs/uses your tractor simply cannot do( or should not but FCK it we do it anyways lol) Maintain her, and park her under cover! The new ones have higher pressures and the electronics are very sensitive so they're more apt to suffer moisture issues over old school that had 2 fckn sensors lol

[@richardnoel5962]

I've owned the 650 and 750; both were bullet-proof. I recently sold the 650 after owning it for 17 years and got the same as what I paid for it. The only reason for selling is that I consolidated from the 650 and an X758 to the 2025R. I love the 2025R but do miss the 650.

[@johnserrano9689]

@@richardnoel5962 I am willing to bet you're able to "help yourself" too. Able to take care of an issue if it arises too. I genuinely wish you the best of Luck with the new tractor, and operated PROPERLY and INTELLIGENTLY they for the bill. As you and I both know it is up to us to buy the appropriate tractor for our needs, not push that 2 series there brutally hard expecting her to do the work of say the 1050 I got, much like if I was an idiot pushing my 1050 to do the work of a 6000 series. I must admit I wish I had a little 6 or 750 sometimes, the land I own is so heavily wooded even as maneuverable as my 1050 is, she's just too big to get into some areas without a lot of prep work, areas the 6-750 would sail right through. Also, don't even get me started on the damage the 1050 does to the finished areas like the lawn, even when dry she's too dam heavy and leaves a large set of "cleats" stamped all over. Where as you new Deere was specifically built with this purpose in mind, yet still supply good HP and good hydraulic power. Issue is all that HP and hydraulic balls is what gets guys in trouble lol but for all I know Deere has beefed them up since, but I know guys who really love their 2-3 series machines running bigger 3 point implements legitimately blew apart the bearing supports inside! Obviously the big weight savings Deere, Bota' hell I believe even Yanmar gained in their small chassis compacts has that as a built in compromise. Knowing what you, your tractor and implements are designed for and their built in limitations are absolutely paramount... Have you had to rebuild/replace anything on/inside the new 2 series? If so how does she compare to the older legendary 6-750 series? For my personal lack of a garage man even with the 1050 being Abit more difficult to replace say a clutch, she's far better to work on. Short of dropping the dam crank the older 6 and hell all the way up to the 1650's were built in fact to be worked on in the field, I'm curious if the newer ones are too (goes with out saying some electronics need the dealer to program or replace)

[@richardnoel5962]

@@johnserrano9689 Agreed on all points ... I have a 4320 CUT (i.e. not the older 4320) for heavier tasks; I intend to use the 2025R for only moving, tilling, snowblowing, and running a cordwood saw. Just took delivery of the 2025R yesterday, so not enough time to compare to the 650. But of course they are completely different tractors that are generations apart, so I'm not sure any comparison would be valid.

[@johnserrano9689]

@@richardnoel5962 nothing like a proper 4320 👍 🇺🇸 dam fine machine. Take care of them tractors and they'll always take care of you (most of the time haha)

[@dikky584]

Hey mate great video, very well done. Could you please tell me about the mower deck option amd how they compare to a Z model

[@marksmith5994]

Do both tractors take the same size cab?

[@trailshark3122]

Nice video Patrick 👍🏼👍🏼

[@TheBearsLair]

Good information shared.

[@ocd7036]

Great video

[@rcclassiccrawlers4368]

Is there a difference in hydraulic pressure between the two?

[@bigg7882]

No

[@leeoverstreet8718]

@@bigg7882 the flow his higher on the 2025r. It will lift a little more than thr 1025r.

[@Mike-mn9xo]

Lee Overstreet that flow is for the power steering it doesn’t do anything for lift capacity

[@DakotaDave17]

Yes. The 1025r has a pump with 6.3 G.P.M. rating. running @2000 P.S.I. The 2025R has a pump rated at 7.0 G.P.M. running @ 2150 P.S.I. giving it a slight advantage with the loader enabling it to lift more.

[@Bigtoolrack]

Great video!

[@ElvinoMarqs]

Hinomoto HM255 great tractor

[@cbryanto]

,so 1025 has smaller turning radius?

[@stenny1970]

Deer Country Farm & Lawn, Inc. What can I get a 1025R and a 2025R Tractor from you for. Just the Tractor.

[@stenny1970]

Deer Country Farm & Lawn, Inc. Good video! I would like to get a compact tractor - I'd like the 2025R but I am not sure its worth 2 grand more. Is there and difference in Hydraulic Power or PTO Power in these 2 models ??? - Love it if you could do a more detailed video on everything different.

[@bigg7882]

The only thing different is the size pro power horse power and lift compasaty are the same

[@Mike-mn9xo]

I honestly love my 1025r perfect yard tractor . Does everything the 2025 does except a few inches lower. If you constantly use it to dump into the bed of trucks then do the 2025. If you want to use in the yard and don’t want to destroy the grass get the 1025

[@richardnoel5962]

If it's just money, pony up the extra dollars and go with the 2025R.

[@stkarloff]

Length does little for stability. Width, low center of gravity, and rearward weight prevent roll-overs. At 3 inches wider and 3 inches taller, the stability difference is likely negligible, and might favor the lower 1025r. The 2025r does have more room in the rear tires for filling to lower the center of gravity for a small additional cost. Good review otherwise!

[@4gauge10]

Wheelbase is EXTREMELY important when pulling steep hills,a shorter wheelbase means the tractor becomes unstable on less steep hills,then the same tractor with nearly a foot longer wheelbase.

[@travisjackson6923]

Not true, ask yourself why jeep cj7s are popular and not the cj5s. Same width but the 5 flips more due to shorter wheelbase. Nobody wants them. Agree with your other points though!

[@commandantmarechalkeitel5322]

it is 4x4?

[@andytaylor2321]

Ok

[@trulysurprised-bk7cy]

JD...flooding the market with too many overwhelming options 🙄 at a high price. Only plus is when you want to resell. That's where the cost and color pays off.

[@terrellscaife2411]

Cool shit

[@andresgarcia9458]

I'm looking for a used 1025r backhoe if anyone is looking to sell a backhoe attachment for a 1025r john deer please look up under pelon n Shirley Garcia on fb

[@francissullivan6400]

2320 is the best

[@edwardwhite221]

I sold mine and have had sellers remorse for 2 years now.

[@brgable]

In your opinion what makes it better? I’m in the market for one of these and would be very helpful thank you.

[@CHEZZYNIPSTERZ]

PRICE

[@1974webby]

John Deere ruined the 2025R The older model 2025R was a lot more tractor. SAD!!!!

[@eddlemanstumpgrinding3149]

I have seen more 1025 in INSURANCE AUCTIONS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH MAJOR TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS.....I OWN A KUBOTA BX AND A FRIEND OF MINE OWNES TWO BX TRACTORS AND BEEN ABUSED ...NEVER ANY PROBLEMS TUFF AS A PINE KNOT.....JOHN DEER IS CHEAP MADE NOW

[@mrbubetube]

neither one of those tractors has a 25hp engine, mmmmmkay?

[@Imgreek81]

Just buy a Yanmar 424

[@mattsrock989]

2025r has more horse 1025 has 22 and 2025 has 25

[@jpbarley]

might wanna look at that again. both are 23.9

[@bigg7882]

No there both 24.9

[@mikezahnow1605]

Both are junk

[@timcaputo714]

What is not junk?