Comparison: Alder vs Ash - Fender Custom Shop ´68 ´69 Stratocaster

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Mike Markwitz

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Comparison between two Fender Custom Shop Stratocaster.
Which do you like more?
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@Jamboljazz
@Jamboljazz 4 жыл бұрын
For me ... alder is great
@Sugiono666
@Sugiono666 4 жыл бұрын
Tetep lah alder fer,....
@BluzBey
@BluzBey 4 ай бұрын
Ash + Maple neck is the perfect match to Dark Pickups like Andy Timmons Dimarzio Cruiser single coil humbuckers style. For the original Fender single coils definitely Alder + Rosewood is the sweetest ever, I believe Rory Gallagher’s 1961 Strat is the best Fender ever made…🤘🏽🎸☘️
@scotttrezak674
@scotttrezak674 3 жыл бұрын
The ash shines on the clean "in between" positions. So much definition in the bottom and top
@alexiep7972
@alexiep7972 4 жыл бұрын
0:35 neck and middle then back to neck, very smooth transition, hats off
@jongonzalez6917
@jongonzalez6917 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I have two swamp ash strat-styled guitars, and I was sure I’d prefer the swamp ash tone in this video....I did not. The alder sounds much fuller and I like it! Great job! Great vid!
@davolthe1261
@davolthe1261 4 жыл бұрын
Bcs these are two different guitars folks, woods in electric guitars surely can't make this much difference, it's just different electronics or different amp settings, seriously there is no way, usually woodtone difference is VERY minimal especially between these two woods, just watch comparisons with same electronics for genuine test.
@1mihayes
@1mihayes 4 жыл бұрын
Davolthe I totally agree with you on this. It’s way more than just the woods. Ash generally is preferred by most. This seems to be more about the pickups and guitars than the body woods.
@MrEpic-lf4gn
@MrEpic-lf4gn 4 жыл бұрын
@@1mihayes You are both idiots.
@kvtar
@kvtar 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how you may like the way a certain wood sounds when you play it, but hate it when someone else does. I slightly prefer swamp ash on most of the samples, but keep in mind the sound your HANDS make too.
@lousekoya1803
@lousekoya1803 Жыл бұрын
Me too !
@alexiep7972
@alexiep7972 4 жыл бұрын
like the way the guy plays with the switch, 0:33 smooth and rapid transition from bridge to neck
@OneTanMan
@OneTanMan 6 ай бұрын
Unless all the parts are swapped it hard to attribute it solely to the body, due to variation in the electronics. Pots, pickups, capacitors. They all vary within tolerance.
@marcellofreitas7356
@marcellofreitas7356 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Mexican Fender of alder with maple fingerboard and I love it more and more every day. But ash has great tone too.
@roadtonever
@roadtonever 4 жыл бұрын
Alder for leads, ash for rhythm.
@JudeSkyi
@JudeSkyi 4 жыл бұрын
Superb playing brother! That second riff is straight heat! 🔥
@APaclin
@APaclin 3 жыл бұрын
In some cases alder and some ash sound better, in some the same. But actually it doesn't matter how they sound by themselves, what matter is how it sits in the mix :)
@michaelwilson8267
@michaelwilson8267 4 жыл бұрын
Ash robs it of something magic
@AndyNyle
@AndyNyle Жыл бұрын
it’s grainier sound and sometimes loses high end
@misstress1928
@misstress1928 Ай бұрын
I like ash with maple one piece necks, and alder with maple/rosewood necks. Such combinations sound more subtle and expressive to my ear. Alder with maple neck sounds nice for some genres, and also nice to have in the collection, but wouldn't be my primary choice.
@snipperacoustics
@snipperacoustics 11 ай бұрын
I like the sparkle on clean sound of the ash body. The Alder has more meat on mid frequencies and possibly better for heavier distorted sound but for just clean or slightly overdriven sound you get that authentic american sound with the ash.
@bozopennywize
@bozopennywize 4 жыл бұрын
Ash has fuller tone but Alder has more overtones.
@nsc217
@nsc217 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference? The alder sounds like it has more high end to me… Ash is a bit dull
@Relicsun
@Relicsun 4 жыл бұрын
My fender custom shop 62 Strat is ash and it’s sounds amazing!
@Jijo-tt4mb
@Jijo-tt4mb Жыл бұрын
ASH 😍
@jonduke3919
@jonduke3919 3 жыл бұрын
I have both the ash sounds darker an duller old school that’s why I like them. I still think mohogony sounds the best.
@Tangent_Frank
@Tangent_Frank 4 жыл бұрын
alder; punchy and crystal clear. ash; warmer and a little more rolled off. alder would be really nice with a sort of bridge position shreddy thing while i think ash would be perfect for just a neck humbucker jazz type thing
@skgate
@skgate 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that theres two different types of Ash that Fender uses, Swamp Ash which is lighter and Northern Ash which is heavy.. An alder body would weigh about 7.5lbs, swamp ash would be around 6.8lbs and the northern ash can be 10lbs. I believe that would make a difference. My 10lb ash Vintera strat sounds like no other strat ive heard so far
@akkiakki79
@akkiakki79 2 жыл бұрын
I am agree.you right..
@andrewsantos3283
@andrewsantos3283 4 жыл бұрын
This help me decide on what tonewood i will use for my custom strat build. I will go with alder.
@mapleash9586
@mapleash9586 4 жыл бұрын
Ash👍
@gilovadya3607
@gilovadya3607 6 ай бұрын
beautiful man! great test
@jorgea3507
@jorgea3507 3 жыл бұрын
Alder for me, had clarity in the notes. The Ash sounded compressed an lifeless. I have an old alder love it. I did however buy the elite, and after 4 months of live shows sold it. This video confirmed any second doubts...great riffs!!
@davidrocha1419
@davidrocha1419 2 жыл бұрын
Im very impressed, the Alder sounds the best in this video and has that Hendrix vibe in the neck pickup position 👍
@sbspulse9582
@sbspulse9582 9 ай бұрын
Hendrix's Strat Blackmoor's are from Ash.
@randallscott6
@randallscott6 5 ай бұрын
Man...this guy is a rocker! Got the tattoos too !
@dennisfrank1974
@dennisfrank1974 4 жыл бұрын
I like the black one
@i.r.theofficial
@i.r.theofficial 4 жыл бұрын
I do not see the difference on overdrive. On a clean - barely noticeable. Thanks for comparing!
@bayuyudhaprasetya2134
@bayuyudhaprasetya2134 4 жыл бұрын
Ash or alder?
@Pamapamapop
@Pamapamapop 24 күн бұрын
No preference over the other. They are different colours and better in different use cases. Swamp ash is definitely more clear for distorted rythms not losing definition and clarify and solos are articate as well, alder is great for in your face solo sound. So both are greeat tonewoods.
@raditya3357
@raditya3357 4 жыл бұрын
Swamp ash has a great tone
@canaldoguetoberra
@canaldoguetoberra 4 жыл бұрын
I will name my son Alder
@The11eleven
@The11eleven 4 жыл бұрын
And your daughter
@patgray5402
@patgray5402 4 жыл бұрын
@@The11eleven Mahogany
@lestar7555
@lestar7555 4 жыл бұрын
Ash sound is amazing
@zaldum386
@zaldum386 2 жыл бұрын
Note to my future Self: Ash all the way
@jimo1294
@jimo1294 2 жыл бұрын
Are all things equal except body wood? Same pickups, same p/u heights? Same string brand? If so, the alder sounds better.
@chadnedohin
@chadnedohin 4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised. I was expecting ash to win... but the alder won every time. Alder for me.
@raditya3357
@raditya3357 2 жыл бұрын
Alder has a bright tone, ash has a warm tone. Alder for lead and ash for chord
@HiromiMaruyama
@HiromiMaruyama 6 ай бұрын
My ear is not good enough to tell difference though I can tell based on your great video. I would rather care for the neck and pickups.
@Morte_Deus
@Morte_Deus 4 жыл бұрын
I'm more impressed with that amp sounds to be honest, those kempers are the shit.
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 4 жыл бұрын
I still think a well-miced tube amp is better, but with the modelers or profilers you can get good results quickly and easily.
@Morte_Deus
@Morte_Deus 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeMarkwitz ' I agree, i sold my kemper and went back to tube amps, kemper is great for what it is but i got tired of the constant tweaking.
@nickrook5519
@nickrook5519 2 жыл бұрын
to my ear it’s hard to compare because the sunburst sounds like ‘69 custom shop p/u’s and the other ‘50s p/u’s
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely in both '69s
@detodounpokoOficial
@detodounpokoOficial 3 жыл бұрын
Aurez-vous une vidéo jouant les guitares sans les connecter ?
@topografer
@topografer 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say that the fingerboard material does a way larger difference to my ears Maybe I am wrong I don't know
@NaRtyBand
@NaRtyBand 4 ай бұрын
Clean pos 4 Alder 01:29 clean pos 4 Ash 1:51
@benherdsant426
@benherdsant426 3 жыл бұрын
Swamp ash is great. I have both guitars ( alder and ash - in maple ) captation alnico V and ceramic ...the bright on ash is wonderful, but to midles is better play with alder... 🤷🏼‍♂️😰🤷🏼‍♂️
@jonathanrossmusic2509
@jonathanrossmusic2509 4 жыл бұрын
I see what you did with the toggle switch! Very slick. Great video !
@assaulturk
@assaulturk 4 жыл бұрын
any difference? I don't know if its psychologic or not but I always prefer alder.
@hakarl_
@hakarl_ 2 жыл бұрын
Cool tones! Curious what pickups you have in them, especially bridge in the alder one.
@rrjf432
@rrjf432 4 жыл бұрын
Depends but I'd say Ash... every ash guitar has a different and inconsistent sound. Alder every guitar has a similar sound. Alder 9 out of 10 guitars are good. Ash is like 3 to 4 out of 10 are amazing and great. But those 3 out of 4 will destroy any alder guitar. 😢
@topografer
@topografer 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that about ash, that it's too inconsistent. I don't know if it's true, I guess when a lot of people say it, it has to be. Alder on the other hand is indeed the most consistent of woods, and to my ears great sounding too.
@berndkoelbl3852
@berndkoelbl3852 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Mike ! Maybe you could show us this comparison with clean and light distorted sounds ?
@adrianhjordan1981
@adrianhjordan1981 3 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the whole video? He does
@pedroadabar5706
@pedroadabar5706 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianhjordan1981 perhaps he meant with some crunch, this is, some overdrive, no distortion. That sound is always very interesting to listen to.
@PulauSwan
@PulauSwan 9 ай бұрын
I don't see how this comparison is credible, what is incredible: is that some people believe it is.
@michaelinglis8516
@michaelinglis8516 4 жыл бұрын
Those strat pups handle higher gain(higher gain for a strat, think heavier gain from a TS9) really well but also have great spank and openness when clean. I'm building a telecaster now but next I'll probably build a strat. Are the pickups in this video the ones the fender custom shop used or aftermarket? Whatever they are I'm really digging them! I liked the Alder more but I'm not listening through my studio monitors or monitoring headphones, just my phone. I'll have to listen again later when I'm at my computer.
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite Strat Single Coils. These are the right '69 from the Custom Shop.
@michaelinglis8516
@michaelinglis8516 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeMarkwitz I can certainly see why they are your favorite. Again, they sound excellent. Thanks for the info!
@hrshorty6676
@hrshorty6676 Жыл бұрын
What I hate about this is you need both ☺️
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz Жыл бұрын
That´s it! 😆
@blusinbarnesify
@blusinbarnesify 4 жыл бұрын
For One I like everything Raw! No Paint. Or Clear Coats! Let it Hum Vib n Feedback n Breath. With Sweat n Playing the wood will Dye to your own natural color. Now saying Alder is Darker more residence with a Maple neck will make it a bit treble. N Ash is Warm with with a Swampy Tone. Useing Rosewood Necks will always give you more of a Warmer Feeling. Not as Brite. That's just how I hear it if I'm not tone deaf lol. I got 40 years of experience of building n tearing apart Strats n Guitars n I'm no expert. N still looking for that special one that I will say I found Her..
@robsmith6443
@robsmith6443 2 жыл бұрын
Well, as a tonewood that alder was a great classic sound, but I didn't love the Ash...I came here because I'm looking at a guitar with an Ash fretboard though. IME that does affect tone but differently, and also affects feel...I have no experience with an Ash board though.
@detodounpokoOficial
@detodounpokoOficial 3 жыл бұрын
friend are the same pickups? on the 2 guitars?
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 3 жыл бұрын
Yes - ´69 Custom Shop
@Mariduano
@Mariduano 4 жыл бұрын
Need both
@pedroadabar5706
@pedroadabar5706 3 жыл бұрын
IMAO I find alder more subtile, clean, defined, even sweet, and the lows are more perceptible as if the middles were weaker than in ash. The Vintera 50s strato MN has that body in the Sonic Blue (SB) colour, and I do love her.
@qua7771
@qua7771 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I'm finding that my ash guitars need a pickup with more mids. I like the snap of ash, and the scoop, but it needs the right pup.
@Владычецморской
@Владычецморской 3 жыл бұрын
Need to hear alder and ash top
@vidmohit4684
@vidmohit4684 2 жыл бұрын
Alder sounds much more pleasing to me.
@evks82
@evks82 3 жыл бұрын
what kind of pickup sounds great i want to change my yosemite pickups?
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 3 жыл бұрын
If you like the Sounds in this Video, try the Fender '69 Custom Shop Single Coils.
@akac7546
@akac7546 4 жыл бұрын
ash like srv
@desertedvoltron
@desertedvoltron 2 жыл бұрын
alder rhythm: 1:10 ash rhythm: 1:34
@davidsugitanoto4708
@davidsugitanoto4708 4 жыл бұрын
Ash very bright clean Alder more warm like mahogany
@user-ts8bl3qe5t
@user-ts8bl3qe5t 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! The noth have same pickups? I have feeling that alder strat have little bit more output
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, both guitars definitely have Fender ´69 Custom Shop Single Coils. The alder strat simply has a bit more mids. You can already hear that acoustically.
@user-ts8bl3qe5t
@user-ts8bl3qe5t 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeMarkwitz thanks for answer, which one you prefer?
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ts8bl3qe5t It always depends on what you want to play. Clean the ash and with gain the alder. In the meantime I have sold the ash.
@tonefreak3403
@tonefreak3403 3 жыл бұрын
Alder body for me 100%
@yuliasatyawarman4389
@yuliasatyawarman4389 4 жыл бұрын
Alder for strat, ash for tele
@nsc217
@nsc217 2 жыл бұрын
Clean Alder 1:11 Ash 1:35
@tricolor6184
@tricolor6184 4 жыл бұрын
Which WOOD does the guitar get heavier ???
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 4 жыл бұрын
I already had a lot of Ash Guitars in my hand, which were either very heavy (over 4kg) or quite light. (2.8 - 3.3kg) The Alder Strats were mostly between 3.3 - 3.7kg
@tricolor6184
@tricolor6184 4 жыл бұрын
Ok.... THANK
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 4 жыл бұрын
@@tricolor6184 My pleasure
@reneotten7376
@reneotten7376 4 жыл бұрын
Alder for gain, swamp for clean.
@bryanhatch6688
@bryanhatch6688 4 жыл бұрын
Differences are miniscule at best. Strings, pots, windings in the pups alone could account
@obmen_veshei
@obmen_veshei Жыл бұрын
Ash❤
@Theyrewrong827
@Theyrewrong827 4 жыл бұрын
alder seems a hint more dynamic, but different ears....
@mahindrajairam3635
@mahindrajairam3635 3 жыл бұрын
Its all about the fingers and who plays the guitar.
@Gorazd1974
@Gorazd1974 2 ай бұрын
Alder winner 🎉🎉🎉
@abgm8019
@abgm8019 3 жыл бұрын
Is those guitars has same pickups ?
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, ´69 CS
@ov-studios
@ov-studios 7 ай бұрын
Alder for me
@parabot2
@parabot2 4 жыл бұрын
Each is Unigue in it's own way , and we have tone knobs on the guitar and amp to pull the tone we are after .
@ronniethomas6335
@ronniethomas6335 4 жыл бұрын
Drop a humbucker in the ash one and it becomes Frankenstein.
@DC180
@DC180 3 жыл бұрын
well ashwood is done!
@AndyNyle
@AndyNyle 4 жыл бұрын
ash for clean alder for dirty
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 4 жыл бұрын
See it that way too.
@tbone786
@tbone786 Жыл бұрын
the ash sounds like a 24 fret alder!
@tommyharrisjr7338
@tommyharrisjr7338 4 жыл бұрын
Ash is the winner 4 me.
@tb90hm
@tb90hm 3 жыл бұрын
I think alder is better for strat with single coils!
@ClaudioMartella
@ClaudioMartella 2 жыл бұрын
With two different guitars you are hardly testing the body wood
@BobK5
@BobK5 4 жыл бұрын
They both look very scruffy to me and not much to shout about in the tone department either, might as well buy a new one 🤓
@topografer
@topografer 4 жыл бұрын
I get the feels that alter sounds woodier which is not necesarily good on electrics
@kilgoretrout321
@kilgoretrout321 4 жыл бұрын
Ash just sounds better to me
@branislavmandic8122
@branislavmandic8122 3 жыл бұрын
ash more for tele alder for strat.
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 3 жыл бұрын
Totally
@igor309v
@igor309v 4 жыл бұрын
Ash
@teomankarasimsek1756
@teomankarasimsek1756 4 жыл бұрын
we are listening distortion and artifacts, not the wood.
@Dragon_rls
@Dragon_rls 4 ай бұрын
For me... Both. Slight tone difference, ut probably to the untrained ear... Unnoticeable. Speaking of untrained ears... Have you listened to F.M. radio lately? Reminds me of the "white boxed generic food of the 80s. (Beef), in a can white wrapping.
@agusriyanto7579
@agusriyanto7579 3 жыл бұрын
Alder is the best !!!
@minnesotajack1
@minnesotajack1 3 ай бұрын
To me, ash is more of a telecaster thing
@DiosJaguar15
@DiosJaguar15 4 жыл бұрын
Alder Swamp ash is better than ash i guess
@amotsfriedman6945
@amotsfriedman6945 2 жыл бұрын
Alder sound is much better when you use a lot of distortion. Because it does not have many frequencies that are too high. I have two guitars of this kind regarding Ash I do not like. Sounds colder and painful in high notes. It does not matter that it has more bottom. With a good guitar amp like Friedman you can get enough bottom. But Ash does not allow to get rid of the high tone no matter what you do.
@boodeeish
@boodeeish 3 жыл бұрын
alder bright ash warm
@oficinadomarcheto
@oficinadomarcheto 2 жыл бұрын
Ash is quiter and sweet and alder more screamer
@Ulloy777
@Ulloy777 3 жыл бұрын
Ash more twangy?
@MikeMarkwitz
@MikeMarkwitz 3 жыл бұрын
I see it that way too.
@312diag
@312diag 3 жыл бұрын
caramel vs. butterscotch
@fusoperso
@fusoperso 2 жыл бұрын
Ash win
@zemlidrakona2915
@zemlidrakona2915 8 ай бұрын
Makes zero difference. If you do hear any difference it has nothing to do with the body wood.
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