Complete Chronology of Lineal Heavyweight Champions - The Man Who Beat The Man (UPDATED)

[@JoeVincentPresents]

Thanks for watching! I did this video 2+ years ago, had several pieces of music muted by claims, so I've gone back in and replaced the music so this video which I really love can still be viewed. The older version is still available.

[@chunky9791]

Cause nobody does it like JV. Nobody 😮

[@godlyque3077]

Can we get a sugar Shane Mosely video

[@rightmunted7538]

Hopefully you'll have to go back in and add a little more after February.

[@thejoaquindead146]

I was wondering why I could never hear “schmeling was a hell of a fighter”

[@General-Penguin]

"Nobody does it better". That for sure..

[@Hayden22Stone]

I speak for everyone when I say please never stop making boxing videos.

[@Davehan1836]

TRUEEE

[@crisrobinson3092]

Amen!

[@kmyattjr]

I second that!

[@GrappleGurus]

Please

[@capicornboss]

Facts 🥊

[@garethreid327]

Joe Vincent is the undisputed lineal champ of sports docs

[@Mav90210]

The undisputed Lineal champ with most title defences ever

[@crisrobinson3092]

Amen!

[@JamesPhilipo-oh1ff]

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[@robsinternationalmusicbox]

And mixedmolly of mma

[@RoarofdalioN]

BLTV

[@zachh127zh]

Larry Holmes had one of the greatest runs of any heavyweight champion. Definitely one of the most underrated fighters in prime.

[@brandonwalker6781]

That's what happens when you shatter the image of people's heros. (Ali)

[@richardbranton7396]

@@brandonwalker6781 he didn't shatter the image at all ,Larry felt he was not given his due long before the Ali fight ,but it's still a little bit of a myth because if you watch his fights he(Larry) was always praised

[@BoxingLegends2024]

@@brandonwalker6781 Ali was shattered long before he fought Holmes though

[@Aloha_Snackbar_Everybody]

Absolutely! The way no one discusses him as an all time great is a disgrace. Larry Holmes didn’t want to fight an aging, debilitated Muhammad Ali, and he certainly didn’t want to hurt him. He wanted the referee to stop the fight so he didn’t have to hit him anymore. It’s a shame people had animosity towards Larry Holmes.

[@eaglefan941]

Like Holmes, especially knowing Ali refused him fight until years later. They say Frazier beat Holmes during sparring, info that helps me top ten ranks

[@jaymiller5669]

George Foreman coming back was just wow!!

[@BoxingLegends2024]

staged

[@bdc211]

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[@eaglefan941]

Greatest achievement in Sports

[@eaglefan941]

People don't realize Foreman list 6 weeks if training with Ali fight, should have postponed

[@richnewton7906]

@@BoxingLegends2024 crackhead

[@vigatourAR]

Thank you Joe Vincent - people need to see the quality of these videos 🙌🏿

[@HydrusT]

The Ali part of this video was immaculately presented. I gained a new perspective on parts of his story. It's rare to hear unique and interesting 'takes' about the greats since there's usually a saturation of vidros about them. Great work my friend!❤🎉🙏🏾

[@Hallmighty]

Then you should watch Joseph Vincent's video on Ali. Absolutely a masterpiece.

[@neegachu9074]

@@Hallmightybest Ali documentary I have seen in 15 years

[@tyn833]

No it wasn't immaculately presented they skipped a whole part, when Ali came back he fought Joe Frazier not George Foreman, they left out the part where Frazier kicked Ali's ass

[@Pey-Gang]

​@@tyn833And Ali kick Frazier ass twice 😂😂😂

[@tyn833]

@@Pey-Gang He Didn't't just kick his ass he was in a battle for his life against a man that whipped his ass before and he just became victorious and you can't tell me that Ali wasn't glad that fight was over

[@slaphead8835]

What few videos I have seen of Tommy Burns, he seemed like a pretty decent heavyweight for a smaller guy. Until he met up with Jack Johnson of course. I think it was despicable the way Sonny Liston was treated. He had every right to be heavy weight champion. The precision of “Clay’s” demolition of Liston is a thing of pugilistic beauty as well as his (Ali’s)victory over George Foreman. I love your slo-mo and different angles. A flawless presentation. Excellent work!

[@xannypacquiao_hxc]

You use that Mike Tyson “perfect timing” quote as often as people put mustard on hotdogs. Love the videos.

[@asheru9254]

Boom perfect timing

[@SmoothJK]

And it never gets old lol

[@michaelpatterson9119]

Latter 26:18 26:18 2

[@fredinalaska]

I happy you didn't fold during the lock down, I know you were on the ropes , but like true champions you came back and have been knocking em down, keep up the great work buddy

[@FreakyPhilch]

By far the best documentary channel on KZbin

[@crisrobinson3092]

A new Joseph Vincent video is absolutely a stop down moment as soon as possible for me. I get super excited when I see that he has made another masterpiece!

[@gfdggdfgdgf]

That record of Foreman before the Ali fight thought 40 won, zero lost 37 knockout and nothing beyond 2 rounds.

[@shauku77]

Foreman's comeback always make me chocked up

[@skelhornsongs]

Just brilliant. So well put together. Marciano! Not spoken about enough. Incredible.

[@gregoryadair4932]

My question, why didn't Walcott go to the body? When a person stands in like that from head shots the answer is body shots.

[@timmyholland8510]

​@@gregoryadair4932It was old school back then, he most likely throw plenty of body shots, as well. It was said Marciano overtrained and always in the best shape in the ring.

[@dalewad-wb8ib]

its not in this video but the speech Ali gives to his corner before the foreman fight is one of the greatest unscripted motivational speeches ever

[@KingOfKings__]

I speak for majority of your viewers when I say, keep doing boxing videos. We love them.

[@Account_CB]

One of the best boxing videos ever made!!! This could have been 10 hours long & I'd have loved every second of it!! Brilliant 👍🏽

[@TheHiddenNarrative]

I'm up to the Foreman/Moore fight so far, but already I can say this is one of your best.

[@accuser_of_the_brethren7816]

Perfect voice for narration in the genre, perfect editing, perfect pacing, actual research done and lastly as unbiased as possible in order to give both the facts and the stories of these legends lives with the utmost respect. Please never stop my friend.

[@JonnyMack33]

The effort that's gone into this video is UNBELIEVABLE! Thank you for this excellent documentary 👌... and the AI Ringside Reporter is a touch of beauty! Fantastic!

[@halleck3]

Good work on this one. I do believe some fighters got too much coverage and others too little, but that's just taste and you can't argue taste. I'm impressed with the amount of research and work you put into it!

[@damienhouse7706]

I always loved this video! Do you think you could do it for the other weight classes?

[@crisrobinson3092]

Great idea!

[@Matt-zp1jn]

Welterweight !

[@Adam-ql1xe]

Lennox was the lineal & won it back How is Vlad Lineal Vlad never beat his brother Is Lineal You beat the Man that beat the Man Smoke n mirrors

[@dr.mofongo9001]

Just found this channel, and want to say THANK YOU for the quality, commitment, and effort poured into producing this level of content. Amazing work.

[@Half_Centaur]

From this point forward, this should be required viewing for any boxing fan

[@crisrobinson3092]

Absolutely!

[@khanimran7465]

The saddest fight was Muhammad ali fighting Larry Holmes broke my heart watching it

[@joshportie]

Did it bother you they paid Sonny to lose to him so he could be champion?

[@zachh127zh]

@ source??

[@SiniBANG]

Aside from the history of the title changes, I love that this is like seeing the evolution of boxing. The olden times looked wild, boxers tend to fight with a lowered guard.

[@robbiehoskins2468]

This video is amazing, it helps me sort it all out so clearly. The lineal title is truly the only one that matters and when viewed in this context, the Heavyweight Division makes sense. Anything or anyone that can make sense of that mess is a GODSEND.

[@theskateboardt619]

I absolutely love this video not only for the history but the amount of work you’ve always put into your videos very well done. I gotta say my favorite part Hass to be Rocky Marciano being from Brockton Massachusetts myself I would always hear about him, and now I can truly say, and know how great he was.

[@PenToPaperWritingWorkshop]

This is real journalism. Well done, mate. Rare to see nowadays.

[@modestodavid89]

26 rounds of the same 2 people fighting all in one fight sounds insane

[@garrettmarshall7664]

The record is fucking 109 rounds and was a draw

[@jpesmar]

Rounds were different back then though, not 3 Minute rounds. It was often decided by action, so a round could get by with out anything happening basically, or get called a round when a major punch landed. Still insane, off course

[@johnreidy2804]

@@jpesmar The end of a round was when someone was knocked down even thought they got back up

[@johnreidy2804]

@@garrettmarshall7664 Why did you say the "F" word?

[@andrewsmith3257]

They were insane back then

[@rodneycunningham5972]

Best documentary I have ever seen... great job, and thanks

[@JermStone]

I wish someone made MMA videos this detailed. These are amazingly put together. Thanks for the great boxing content!!!

[@Smell_TheGlove]

You mean like MixedMollyWhoppery?

[@JermStone]

@@Smell_TheGlove oh? I’ll go have a look! Thanks!

[@Smell_TheGlove]

@JermStone no problem buddy. He doesn't upload regularly but he does a lot of MMA & a little boxing

[@52Відеогри]

I dont like mma, but I would watch a video like this and who knows

[@MrWhiskers65]

Joseph Vincent is the greatest sports documentary creator on any platform! His videos are so epic and emotional they make your hair stand up they’re so good!

[@ButOneThingIsNeedful]

Believe it or not, one of my very favorites in his prime among this parade of all-time greats and lineal HW champions? Riddick Bowe I loved his combination of size, quickness, athleticism, and entertainment value. Round 10 in his first fight w/Holyfield is one of the greatest I have seen.

[@leonardhpls6]

Do you not watching much boxing then😂

[@ButOneThingIsNeedful]

@@leonardhpls6For over 5 decades. Why don't you explain your comment? It doesn't seem to make much sense.

[@tomyoliver2954]

This is the most beautiful cinematic piece that has ever blessed my eyes

[@adamappleton4631]

Great video! The amazing thing to me is always this: if Foreman had beaten Ali, we would be lauding Big George as the greatest heavyweight of all time. The incredible thing is what Foreman went on to do all those years later. Big George, what a guy.

[@eaglefan941]

To many people George is the Greatest. Winning at 45. Destroying Frazier and Norton. If you had all the greats fight, with 1 Los, your out. ALI could lose to Norton, Frazier, also doesn't match up style with Tyson.

[@mrgonzalez4583]

Idk how you got all these clips but you the goat for making this

[@riobabic8960]

Great documentary ! Heavyweight boxing used to be great. The 21st century though has been disappointing especially lately. Now the top ten avoid each other. 40 years ago Tyson Fury would not be allowed to avoid boxers like Anthony Joshua !

[@isaiahburns7538]

Or Oleksandr Usyk. Tyson Fury is a PATHETIC COWARD.

[@pigeonwheels7207]

The fact that your videos are more entertaining then boxing itself speaks volumes.

[@NeverSober8008]

We’ve had awesome super bowls, nba finals, Stanley cups and World Series but anytime they are good- it’s referred to as a Heavyweight fight. None of them hold a candle to what we saw in Fury-Wilder 3, among the countless heavyweight fights in this video.

[@leonardhpls6]

​@@NeverSober8008 fury wilder 3 😂 you must be young and new to boxing kid

[@NeverSober8008]

@@leonardhpls6 Getting pretty close to 30 years old, I wasn’t old enough to watch Tyson or Lennox Lewis live. So if you consider that young, I guess so

[@shanealan7493]

Best one yet Joe, but then again… you always bring it home! I gotta say, every time I watch Marciano drop Jersey Joe, I get teary eyed. If Lewis was the inspiration to his community like Atlas described here, Marciano was that for part Italian American mutts like me for many generations. We all know about the Suzie Q, but my favorite punch is the super sly follow-up left hook love tap on the walk-by. Like he was saying “That’s what you get for knockin’ me down, and take this with ya!”

[@ramonluquin2612]

Holy crap what a great video. Thank you. Reminds my of why I started watching boxing since I was a kid. Thank you.

[@chunky9791]

19:00 love how sonny never sat down between rounds, until that first fight with MA.

[@Fanfan30303]

Great video. Great era for heavyweight boxing today. Don’t let anyone tell us different. Heavyweight boxing has always and will always be the biggest and best

[@M.C._3369]

Time for an update! Usyk 🔥

[@nesirsitsir]

I hope you keep making videos forever. Everything you put out is perfect.

[@lj2902]

Would love Joe Vincent to do a “Road to undisputed” video. Going through all the fights of consequence, belts changing hand ect. From when Fury beat Klitschko through to Fury v Usyk

[@vinsilver]

Absolutely fanatastic vid you basically summarised 100+ years of boxin' keep grindin dont reach somewhere and quit ....you are dping something you are helping...much love jo vincent❤

[@kurtmcfc1629]

Riddick Bowe might be the most underappreciated fighter of the 90's

[@SmoothJK]

His talent and strength were legendary. He just didn't have the long-term work ethic.

[@arturoarambula2814]

Man, I love this documentary. i have read hundreds of books and articles about boxing and still learned a lot from this.

[@efraincarrera8395]

💯💯 Joseph Vincent always with the docs

[@ginomoreno5117]

Subscribers to this channel have excellent taste and the content creator deserves a million subs. I'm not even a fan or follower of boxing. I'm from Texas where we watch stick and ball sports. I couldn't rip my eyes away from this video! So well made!

[@kurtmcfc1629]

guys weighing 180-190 and being heavyweight champion of the world really shows how much the division has changed.

[@franklincarlson4939]

The legend of making us these videos

[@JonnyMack33]

Watching Ali just systemically pick Liston apart is a thing of absolute beauty! 👌 very special boxing that! .. and I doubt Liston was the least bit perturbed knowing he would ALWAYS be 2nd to Ali! .. then looking at the SIZE arms SPEED of Foreman! Good God!

[@cassidylynn7289]

Vincent can you please do a video on yoel Romero? I would love it I've been watching your videos for sometime now and I can't get enough of them. But I know you'll kill it. How your able to take a video and just break it down with everything the good and the bad of the individual is genius and I feel you need more recognition for your creativity. I thank you for these videos you create your amazing. Please keep them coming. Like your Derrick Rose video amazing.

[@tylerchapman9234]

I was a little kid and I cried with joy when Foreman beat Moorer.

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

I was 20 when Foreman took the title in 94. 45 seemed so old at the time, now 45 seems young. Funny how that works. Cheers

[@terra2805]

That was super entertaining! Brilliantly done!

[@chrisr024]

Update it and add the current lineal champ Usyk .

[@sasazivanovic777]

Really nice Boxing Education. Great Video ! ❤

[@WarioSaysSo]

The Lineal World Champion was and is an answer for fans and critics to follow the "REAL" world champion in any weight class with-out interfearence from the major ruling organisations (WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO). The organisations follow there own politics and agendas of ranks & title recognitions. The Lineal concept of a lineal champion was developed by boxing fans and boxing historians, dissatisfied by the tendency of each of the various sanctioning bodies (WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, etc. and before these there was NYSAC & NBA) to recognize different champions. In professional boxing, the lineal champion is informally called "the man who beat the man". A concept that is true, but not with-out its flaws. Like: A break in the direct continuity of a lineal championship can occur when a reigning champion retires or moves up/down to another weight class. However, there is NO single canonical list of lineal champions at any weight class, because there is NO agreed-upon method of determining the starting point for each lineage. There is agreement to discount the sanctioning bodies (such as the WBA, WBC, IBF, or WBO) stripping a title, something that have been debacled for ages if some boxers have been stripped for right reason(s) or political reason(s). Another criticism of the lineal championship is that a fighter may defend it against inferior opponents. For example, George Foreman was the lineal champion from 1994 until 1997, when Shannon Briggs controversially defeated him. After the WBA and IBF stripped him of their titles in 1995, Foreman fought only two, lower-regarded opponents before Briggs. The lineal champion is not necessarily the boxer viewed as the best in the weight division. The classic boxing magazine "The Ring" has awarded world championships in professional boxing within each weight class from its foundation in 1922. The first Ring world title belt was awarded to heavyweight champion Jack Dempsey and from that on to the early 90's, The Ring world title belt became the acting symbol of the Lineal championship. But in the early 90's when they stoped awarded its belt, it became a glap in many weight divisions of "who was the new Lineal champion" (?). The heavyweight division thank the good lord was the most promising lineage intact that had existed in a perfect line since Floyd Patterson's era of 1956. Since the original = first recognized world heavyweight champion John L. Sullivan in 1885 and lasted till Gene Tunney in 1928, where the 1st line was broken. Max Schmeling was the start of the 2nd line of lineal champions in 1930. That 2nd line would last from 1930 to 1949 with Joe Lous retireing after a 11 year ling reign but because he made a comeback and lost to new world champion Ezzard Charles, the 2nd Lineal line was intact and goes on till 1956 with Rocky Marciano retireing undefeated as defending champion to never come back. That was the end of the 2nd reign after 26 years. The 3rd reign is started of the lineage with Floyd Patterson taking up the crown in 1956 so from 1956 till 2004 the perfect lineage was intact. Patterson to Johansson back to Patterson. Patterson to Liston to Clay/Ali. Ali to Frazier to Foreman. Foreman to Ali to Spinks and back to Ali. Ali to Holmes and Holmes to Spinks. Spinks to Tyson and Tyson to Douglas. Douglas to Holyfield and Holyfield to Bowe. Bowe back to Holyfield and then to Moorer. Moorer to Foreman and Foreman to Briggs. Briggs to Lewis and Lewis to Rahman before returning back to Lennox Lewis - and stop! 3-time world champion Lennox Lewis became the last lineal world heavyweight champion of this 48 year long line of champions when he retired in 2004 to never come back. A new Lineal champion in the heavyweight division was attempted in 2004 when The Ring Magazine awarded there Ring world title belt to Vitali Klitschko on 24 Apr 2004 - but it became short lived and never truly picked up as a fully "legit" Lineal recognition as it ended in Nov 2005 when Vitali was forced to retire out of chronicle back problems. Not until 2009 there became an aggrement of who was the best man in the heavyweight division and that was Wladimir Klitschko who earned the recognition in 2009 after having dominated all opposition and in the process unified IBF/WBO/IBO and attempted the WBA but of WBA politics the belt was not on the line when defeating undefeated WBA champion Ruslan Chagaev. In 2011 Klitschko unified his belt with the WBA. So the 4th Lineal line was started by Klitschko in 2009 and after a longer reign in 2015 changed hands to Tyson Fury. After not doing much with it after his Wilder trilogy, (telling he on-off retired between 2022-2024) Oleksandr Usyk unified the whole HW boxing world championship (Lineal/Ring/WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/IBO) in May 2024 after having out-classed Fury and remains as of December 2024 THE champion of HW boxing. There are several weight divisions that had problems in having a new Lineal champion. The Middleweight division is an example where the Lineage was´having a great paus from 1987 with Marvin Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard when Leonard retired the title. Not until the Middleweight division was unified again in 2001 by Bernard Hopkins there was a unity who was the new lineal world champion who had earned the prestigue recognition. And this lineage was broken by Canelo Alvarez in 2020 and no new lineage has been accepted in the middleweight division.

[@abeeazy]

Thanks!

[@JoeVincentPresents]

Thanks! This randomly hit my notification today or I'd have said much sooner.

[@6PathsOfPain_]

Another Gem🔥

[@crisrobinson3092]

Agreed!

[@Kincade-101]

Bro, this is fantastic!

[@markhemmingworthchannel338]

Did Tyson really deserve more time than every champion from John L Sullivan to Joe Louis? Really? Jeffries got all of two seconds for crying out loud!

[@eclipse7436]

It's more relevant as people know Tyson

[@stuartsmillie8175]

Il bet there is twice as much Tyson footage, as there is of every champ from john l Sullivan to joe Louis

[@markhemmingworthchannel338]

@stuartsmillie8175 This isn't a film compilation, it's a documentary

[@markhemmingworthchannel338]

@eclipse7436 No, Mike is no more relevant to this documentary than any other lineal champion. Also, Documentaries aren't supposed to teach you about things you already know 💀

[@stuartsmillie8175]

@@markhemmingworthchannel338 Its a video for enetertainment puprposes. The creator calls it a video not a documentary, maybe you just expected it to be something it was never going to be. Il keep checking your channel for your improved video on the history of the heavyweight lineage.

[@danielmorgan8303]

So it's funny, all this stuff about Ali, but they didn't put him getting knocked down by Joe Frazier in "The fight of the century. " they only mention it. Joe Frazier deserves recognition for beating Ali Thank you so much to whoever put in the time to make this absolutely wonderful video!!!

[@MannibalLector]

Gotta update this to add Usyk in there!

[@victorcastillo-dx9vh]

I 've liked it too much your videos. Congratulations and thanks for sharing

[@timothytreciokas8073]

I wish this included a bit more on Ezzard Charles and the fights he had with Louis, Walcott and Marciano

[@unscrupulousyou]

Undisputed lineal champion of KZbin. What a vid.

[@nischala7170]

Sonny Liston will forever be the most devastating heavyweight in history

[@jjstratford]

The physique and power on young Big George was SCARY. 😱

[@mackgraham4308]

Love your videos would love a klitschko one next !

[@thehistoryvideogameandgame4730]

This video is great, Although I wish you could’ve put the date on the fight next to the fighter in question, That would’ve made it even better

[@roykilgore8461]

Love all the OLE SCHOOL BOXING

[@dancox5572]

Another fantastic production. Outstanding for me.👍👍

[@DrBeauHightower]

Ngannou

[@Joker-qh7fq]

😂😂😂

[@GeniPremium]

Simply: Thank you for the video 🙏 ❤️

[@matthewryder3167]

1:24 - No mention that Jeffries retired undefeated, nor about the crown being left vacant whatsoever (or any other info about his career) 2:17 - The footage shown is of Johnson Vs middleweight champion Stanley Ketchel, not from when he fought Burns. The audio was dishonestly taken from a narration of the Burns fight, 30:36 The undefeated Spinks got two seconds and his face wasnt even shown, apart from during his only career loss to Mike, Also, Johnson didnt "hound" Burns for a title shot. Burns was willing to fight Johnson, but had a tight schedule for the many defenses he fought against the national champions and conteders around the world. No discussion on the circumstances that lead to any of these champions declines (Johnsons exile/age, Dempsey layoff/hollywood, Alis layoff, etc) with the exeption of in the 20% of the video dedicated to Mike Tyson for some reason.... 47:45 Klitchkos amazing title reign got 10% of the time as Fury beating him when the champion was forty.....

[@KongScamWatch]

Also at 3:54 the narrator cites the "Long Count" which was not when Tunney won the title from Dempsey, but was in their rematch a year later.

[@jaksix2358]

I agree with what you have written …… however, ironically no mention of how this is the greatest lineal heavyweight breakdown single doc in your comment - guess none of us are perfect. Ps something not right about the Lennox era too

[@halleck3]

Good points. Some fighters got way more credit than others. Tyson was exciting as hell but does he deserve more time than Johnson, Jeffries, and Vladimir combined? Hell no.

[@thegodofz8230]

Here in Ga. On a Sunday, U.S. Didn't expect this. Thank you.

[@davidkoba]

Foreman is an absolute unit.

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

I've learned more about boxing from Joe's videos than anywhere else. Love these.

[@losenadivuavua8344]

Now it's Oleksander Usiky

[@craigthacker]

Loved the line: "Rocky twisted Walcott's face into pudding." Then showed the most perfectly timed and positioned photo.Wonderful stuff. 11:06

[@richardbranton7396]

Same picture can be taken in every boxing match and has been .

[@jesseharris5426]

Man nothing like a Monday morning boxing video a couple days before Thanksgiving. Even with all the stuff going on around the world this seems to be my peace.

[@stefankatsarov5806]

You didnt mentioned who beat Lenox Lewis afther the Brigs fight. Also Tyson Fury might actially not be the lenial champion since he retired for afther he beat Klitchko, which shoud have meant that the title was given to the winner of Klitchko and Antony. If that was the case then Antony, Ruiz Jr, and now Usyk shoud have been Lineal champs ( and by that Usyk is the curent one afcorse ).

[@BernhardBernard]

I agree... Nobody wants to talk about the fact that he can't just keep his lineal after retirement

[@feelsluckypunk6059]

​@@BernhardBernardJeffries couldn't, neither can Fury

[@BusinessOfFear]

He mentioned Rahman. The retirement didn't mean anything if he fought later. Marciano retiring is different because he stayed retired.

[@harveyMuffin]

Unreal. Best series on yt (boom perfect timing!)

[@KeyvonGreen]

Holmes literally got 2 seconds

[@jalenikezeue4114]

Why do people dislike holmes

[@jaymiller5669]

I really love this- this is one of my favorite KZbin videos. Fascinating line of champions!!

[@frankcouste4785]

The 13 count had to happen in Mikes life along with other thing for him to be the man he is today

[@tonyowens3601]

Amazing work! Thank you JV👏

[@johnbarnesNnaptown]

The referee has the official count. He's counting and also observing the condition of the downed fighter. Fighters beat the count and the ref can stop the fight or the ref can stop the fight without counting at all. When Buster went down the first thing he did was punch the canvas in frustration. He listened to the refs count and got up in time. Mike was crawling around looking for his teeth, he got up at the count of nine but the ref determined he couldn't continue. FOH with the long count bs. If you watch closely Mike got the same count as Buster.

[@ryklatortuga4146]

Yes - Buster was taking as long as he needs before he stands back up - looking at the ref to time getting up when so that has as much respite as possible.

[@thehistoryvideogameandgame4730]

Really it’s just Don King not willing to accept that his cash cow (And Tyson was a massive one at that) got beat by a better fighter and a better man that day

[@johnbarnesNnaptown]

@@thehistoryvideogameandgame4730 You're absolutely right.

[@halleck3]

Yup. If the ref had said "nine!" faster, Douglas would've gotten up faster.

[@nassa4077]

Some of the best content on YT, keep up the great work.

[@Shaun-f1n]

Tyson Fury is not the lineal champion of the world, after the klitshko fight he retired which meant he relinquished his belt otherwise logically the belt ended with Marciano, Usyk is the current Lineal champion of the world, that's the rules, if you retire you relinquish that title and coming back out of retirement doesn't mean you get it back.

[@justineebourgeois3420]

Mike Tyson is the true GOAT!

[@alext399]

No he’s not

[@justineebourgeois3420]

@@alext399 yes he is. The youngest Heavyweight champ in history for a reason!

[@alext399]

@@justineebourgeois3420 What else did he do besides that..? Never beat another great. I don’t get the hype

[@justineebourgeois3420]

@@alext399 ppl were too afraid to fight him in his Prime. He’s the most feared fighter in history.

[@alext399]

@@justineebourgeois3420 Who was afraid to fight him in his prime

[@hamshank29]

The lineal champ thing is such bs and it drives me nuts that Fury currently calls himself that. There are numerous breaks in the 'lineage' when a fighter retires, moves weight class etc. Plus there was the whole period when black fighters were prevented from fighting at the top level. Also, I swear joe already did this video but maybe im thinking of another channel

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

What a fantastic video, well done

[@ahsokatanosloveinterest]

Congrats to Francis The Predator Ngannou, the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of two sports. Perhaps he can be in the video next time since he clearly beat Tyson.

[@ButOneThingIsNeedful]

What a quality boxing video this is! Great work, JV!🥊

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It's crazy when you think about it... Francis was one point away from being on this video... And as if that would not have blown you away. he would have become the lineal champion simultaneously of 2 different combat sports.

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This is a great vid. Well put together and very enjoyable.