What a golden age it was mayn. Both have 180 degrees views to each other but still doing debate in a respectful manner. ❤️
@ammarshaheen75397 ай бұрын
It was BARELY 180 degrees. They were agreeing with each other on around 80% of matters. Apart from some technicalities, as a whole they were pretty much united. Both only varied in perspective on SOME points. And none of the points were AGAINST islam. Both were completely agreeing on shariyah matters. However since everyone has the right to present their narrative, both of them did and had differences in some places..
@nth_design17 ай бұрын
Agreed and both are amazing scholars no doubt@@ammarshaheen7539
@hassanmahmood76377 ай бұрын
they are like two flowers in a banquet, they have no opposing discussion , but approach is different ......that is the unique quality of Quran and Sun-nah ....... i think so ...
@MuhammadBilal-i7f3c7 ай бұрын
@ammarshaheen7539 would not agree with 180 degrees, but the aspect you noted about them being respectful is so true, mate. x feeling bad for our times
@shahidmirza95124 ай бұрын
@@ammarshaheen753912❤ Ll2o2w1qqqqq
@NomanBhatti-pq6jpАй бұрын
Both of these are our own scholars . Don’t disrespect anyone . In dono ny apni poori zindgi Allah k deen k lye waqf kee . Salam in dono buzurgo py
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@Baloch84127 ай бұрын
The both Dr.Israr Ahmed and Javed Ghamdi sb are rich information and knowledge regarding the all world history.both are legend masha Allah
@mohammadsarfrazqureshi72277 ай бұрын
Javed Ghamdi, legend? Do you know what legend means?
@theking3707 ай бұрын
Ghamidi is Kafir. He says Interest is Halal . He also says Qadianis are not Kafir. He gave many crazy fatwas
@nth_design17 ай бұрын
Agree
@MusaibMalik-ok3qi7 ай бұрын
Ghamdi is murtad
@mohammadmujeeb2757 ай бұрын
Not ghamdi
@waqarazmat7 ай бұрын
Kiya khoobsurat waqt tha jab do log samne beth ke behas ker sakte they.. aur ek dusre ki raye se ikhtilaaf ker sakte they. ❤
@qasimshaheen596Ай бұрын
گولڈن دور ❤
@143k668 ай бұрын
Dr israr sahab Allah jannat me jaga atta farmaye ameen
@Oldmemories-ft9my19 күн бұрын
Ameen
@mnabi5587 ай бұрын
اللہ تعالیٰ ڈاکٹر صاحب کو کروٹ کروٹ جنت نصیب فرمائے، 90 کی دھائی میں ڈاکٹر صاحب نے جو پیش گوئیاں کی تھیں آج حرف بہ حرف سچ ثابت ہورہی ہیں
@muhammadomer96487 ай бұрын
Maslan kya pesh goyan key
@abcd-zq5jv7 ай бұрын
@@muhammadomer9648IMRAN Khan's
@champ10076 ай бұрын
@@muhammadomer9648k imran khan yahudi agent hai jo bilkul sach sabit hui.
@haideralikhan27416 ай бұрын
@@muhammadomer9648ye ke imran khan yahudi egent hai jo sach sabit howi
@truebeliever39485 ай бұрын
امین🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲
@javaidmagrayjavaidmagray11433 ай бұрын
I am leaving comment here ,if any one likes my comment I will come back and listen this again...
@theboys125-vg7du2 ай бұрын
Come and listen again😊😁
@javaidmagrayjavaidmagray11432 ай бұрын
@@theboys125-vg7du thk you sir
@07FSАй бұрын
@@javaidmagrayjavaidmagray1143another one
@nazartech896Ай бұрын
Ajaw Bhai eik bar phr sun lo
@Legend_comments-m1h20 күн бұрын
Come bro
@MohammadAquibali6 күн бұрын
Dr. Israr Ahmed ❤ Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
@javediqbal38577 ай бұрын
ماشااللہ ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب بہت بڑے عالم دین ہیں ۔
@saeedahmed17287 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@peekudang87992 ай бұрын
Ghamadi aapa bhi baithi hain
@chnuman64832 ай бұрын
No body can challenge the routes of Dr.Israr ahmed. His qoutes are always authentic In every matter. He is one of best scholar his own time till now. Allah grant him big rank in jannah.
@AbeerIrshad-sy3he8 ай бұрын
Nobody can match dr israr ahmed, such scholars are born in centuries. ALLAH bless him
@Jogi_777 ай бұрын
ماشاء اللہ ❤❤❤
@NisarAhmad-dz2js7 ай бұрын
❤
@NisarAhmad-dz2js7 ай бұрын
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@syedshaukat66287 ай бұрын
But Javed sb has much better , deeper and clearer understanding of Islam and Quran
@siratemustakeem27067 ай бұрын
Aameen❤❤❤
@hilalbhat9472 ай бұрын
Muslims should learn from this debate and discussion, this is display of knowledge at next level . God bless both of them
@muhammadshafique98608 ай бұрын
Dr israr is Absolutely 💯 Right appreciate it very much for your Thanks Regards Muhammad Shafique from Tauheed Block Bahria town Lahore Pakistan bless.
@AbdulMajeed-bu6on8 ай бұрын
I love Dr Israr Ahmad Sab ,as he was a great Scholar of Islam.Dr sab provided the answers according to Quran and Hadith and under the circles of Islamic Laws.
@avengers97847 ай бұрын
Dr Israr is right amd logical
@ShalinaPyt7 ай бұрын
Look at his arguments they are nowhere close to the Quraan and Sunnah. All his arguments were based upon emotions and were irrelevant and irrational. There's no place for these opinions in Quraan and the Sunnah. His opinion on the Implementation of Islamic Law on the citizens is so absurd and irrational. Things like Beard, Hijab and other personal things don't have anything to do with the State or Islamic Law. 2. Expansion of an Islamic State : Again Dr. Sb confuses the era of the Prophet SAW with today's era. Those verses were only limited to the people of that time and have nothing to do with the modern world. On one side Dr. Sb is cursing the US for their involvement in countries like Iraq, Syrian and Afghanistan but on the other hand he wants an Islamic State to do the same and expand its borders. 3. Treating non- Muslims as the 2nd Grade Citizens : Here also his arguments were totally emotional with no evidence from the Quraan and the Sunnah. This very well talks about his radical mindset which is the most important problem Muslims of today are facing.
@abdulmoizrashid1587 ай бұрын
@@ShalinaPytI would like to know the references from the Quran that mention whatever you're saying. Quranic verses were limited for the people of that time? I mean where is it mentioned in the Quran or hadith? Also, I don't believe Dr Sab mentioned anything regarding not giving basic rights to non-Muslims. Or degrading them... but still Kindly provide references based on the Quran and Sahih ahadith to support your argument. It seems you're very knowledgeable, so it would be greatly beneficial for me to benefit from your knowledge.
@ShalinaPyt7 ай бұрын
@@abdulmoizrashid158it doesn't need any reference to say that those verses were ment for the people who lived at the time of the Prophet SAW. Not everything is mentioned in the Quraan and the Sunnah. Understanding is what actually matters. It says kill all the disbelievers whereever you find them. Does that apply to today's world ? If yes, then you must kill any disbeliever whenever you meet one. The Quraan clearly indicates that those verses were meant for only those people. As far as the reference is concerned, Understanding the verses doesn't need any references. While unfolding the verses the reality comes into the picture and truth prevails hence such things don't need any references.
@shqamareducational77217 ай бұрын
ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب ایک بہت اچھے عالم دین تھے، اللہ انھیں جنت نصیب کرے۔ جاوید احمد غامدی کی دلائل زیادہ واضح اور مضبوط ہیں اور ان کی عالمانہ سنجیدگی اور اعتدال پسند رویہ حد درجہ موثر اور پرکشش ہیں۔
@BilalAhmad-uv7ug6 ай бұрын
ارے میرے بھائی آپ کے غامدی صاحب کون ہیں ذرا ان سے پوچھیں کہ انہوں نے پہلے اسلام پر کتنا عمل کیا ہے، سنت مبارکہ داڑھی رکھنے دیں۔
@BilalAhmad-uv7ug6 ай бұрын
غامدی صاحب جس طرح بیان فرما رہے ہیں اس طرح تو ہر کوئی بیان کر سکتا ہے مگر عمل کوئی نہیں کر سکتا دین اسلام کے اوپر
@BilalAhmad-uv7ug6 ай бұрын
ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب ایک عالم دین ہے اور اس نے اسلام پر پورا عمل کیا ہوا ہے
@umairsohrani21987 ай бұрын
Kia bat hy Dr Israr ahmed ki❤️🌹👌🏻
@yasirmehmoodmalik49207 ай бұрын
بہت ہی پیاری گفتگو مگر نہایت ادب کے ساتھ ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد رحمہ اللّٰہ علیہ کی جتنی بھی گفتگو کی غور کریں بات کو سمجھیں قرآن کریم کی تلاوت سے جواب دے رہے ہیں اللّٰہ پاک ڈاکٹر صاحب کی قبر مبارک پے کروڑوں رحمتیں نازل فرمائیں
@misbahasad57196 ай бұрын
Aameen
@gamingbyangel3336 ай бұрын
Ameen❤
@zalanoor55435 ай бұрын
غامدی صاحب قرآن کریم کے علاوہ کوئی بات نہیں کر رہے ہیں
@muhammadaryan77443 ай бұрын
Ääääääääää@@misbahasad5719
@muhammadaryan77443 ай бұрын
Ääääääääää@@misbahasad5719
@Iforimanmalik7 ай бұрын
Dr Israr was the one of the best scholar of phase...noone is like hin
@MS-Hussain7 ай бұрын
Kuch zyada ho gaya He was indeed a great islamic scholar.
@ysharief777 ай бұрын
No scholar is greater to another scholar, each scholar effects different audiences, audiences deciding who is the best scholar is just praising own thoughts!!
@abdulrashidkhan21967 ай бұрын
@@MS-Hussain , bahut jyada ho gaya . Israr sahab ne tafseer mein kaha tha ki haroof e miktaat ke mayne kisi ko nahin maloom siwa Allah aur uske rassol ke . Jabki saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha . Ab kya kahoge inke ilm ko ?
@AfzalKhan-ps7ow7 ай бұрын
Allah Pak Dr Israr sahib ko janat firdus mein aala mokam Aata frmaeiy Ameen
@What_ai_think6 ай бұрын
@@abdulrashidkhan2196 brother you should watch their videos because they did not said that, or bhai ap ye keh rhy ho hy saari tafseero mein kaha gaya hai ki Rasool Allah ko bhi mayne nahin pata tha, bhai zara ja kar check har tafsser me ye nhi kha gya balky har kisi ki alag alag raiy thi , or agr kisi ki raiiy alag ho to bo bura nhi ho jata
@FreeCitizenPKАй бұрын
ماشاءاللہ! غامدی صاحب کے نظریات منطقی، گفتگو مدلل اور شائستہ طرز تکلم عالم دین کے شایان شان ہے۔۔۔ سبحان اللہ! منطقی، مدلل اور شائستہ طرز تکلم بڑی غیر معمولی انقلابی طاقت ہے اللّٰہ کریم! غامدی صاحب کو صحت و سلامتی اور ڈاکٹر صاحب کے درجات بلند فرمائے۔آمین
@hamzalashari96542 ай бұрын
Kya khubsurat شخصیت thy Dr. Israr sahb kamal ka ذوقِ علم❤
@MuhammadTanzeel-y5b5 ай бұрын
غامدی صاحب اپنی علمی گہرائی اور فراست کے لیے معروف ہیں۔ ان کی گفتگو کا انداز اور مسائل پر ان کی گہری نظر دلوں کو فتح کر لیتی ہے۔ ان کی علمی بصیرت اور حکمت عملی واقعی قابل تحسین ہے۔
@jadoon7994 ай бұрын
غامدی صاحب کسی بیرونی طاقت کی پیداوار ہیں مسلمانوں کے عقائد بولنے کے لیے
@Asmaiftakhar4 ай бұрын
Ghamdi aik fitna hy ,Allah Ummah KO mehfouz rukhy
@ibrahimnauman56004 ай бұрын
i smell a liberal
@fazilhilal31123 ай бұрын
Leikin baath to samjho... Wo apni aati rai nahi de rahe balki quran ka hawala de rahe hai@@Asmaiftakhar
@zoyasheraaz911Ай бұрын
غامدی کو پاکستان میں بیٹھے صرف اردو بولنا اتا ہے اردو کتابوں کو پڑھ کر اور ناولوں کو پڑھ کر اس نے اتنا کچھ بولنا سیکھا ہے ورنہ تو اس کو دین کا علم ایک رائے کے برابر بھی نہیں ہے اور یہ دینی علم بالکل جاہک اور اس سے بڑھ کر جاہل ہے
@sajidkausar85838 ай бұрын
Dr Israr sahab❤❤❤
@WaqasAbdulAziz5 ай бұрын
What an inspirational debate from Ghamdi sb - amazing.. Allah pak Dr. Israr ki bakhshish karay.. Ghamdi sb was way to sound and logical but his respect towards Dr. Israr is worth looking at 👍
@faizanzar0072 ай бұрын
Kaun si baat achi lgi bhai tujhe ghamdi ki ?
@UrduHour2 ай бұрын
@faizanzar007 please be civilised and agree to disgaree like ghamidi sahab and dr israr sahab. Kuch to seekh lo bhai in logon se. Respect kerna seekh ek doosre k views ki.
@AllAboutEurope.Ай бұрын
Amazing concepts clarity from ghamdi sahab, dr israr was also a great scholor
@gowherulislam548016 күн бұрын
Gamdhi sahab is only impressing on dawat and tableeg but apart from the 30 minutes of jummah waaz who cares after that ends so we need to establish a govt based on shariah and make common people forcefully folow islamic laws, I have experience of 36 years that without force nothing is going to change.
@zeepakistan53145 ай бұрын
دونوں علماء نے شائستہ طریقے سے اختلاف کے ساتھ مختلف معاملات پرعلمی گفتگو گی۔ بحیثیت مجموعی جاوید غامدی صاحب کے دلائل زیادہ موثر معلوم ہوئے۔ اللہ تعالیٰ ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب کو جنت میں اعلی مقام عطا فرمائے اور غامدی صاحب کو لمبی صحت مند زندگی عطا فرمائے تاکہ مسلمان ان کی تبلیغ سے فائدہ اٹھا سکیں آمین
@BeyourownfriendАй бұрын
What a anchor❤️ we need these types of podcasters and journalists today
@waseemitoo42897 ай бұрын
Dr Israr is matchless He is Legend
@drs2817 ай бұрын
دونوں بڑے عالم ہیں ، لوگوں کے علم کو بڑھانے میں دونوں کا بہت اہم کردار ہے
@nehaafridi-m2g11 күн бұрын
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@faisalhussain75797 ай бұрын
اس قدر علمی گفتگو کے درمیان اس فیمیل اینکر کے بچکانہ سوالات نے سارا مزا کرکرا کردیا۔ پروگرام کے پروڈیوسر کو سوچنا چاہیے تھا کہ جب دو پائے کے عالم دین بطور مہمان موجود ہیں تو میزبان بھی اسی ذہنی سطح کے ہونے چاہیے۔
@AkbarMohammed-o7n6 ай бұрын
Right brother
@ipakisstan4 ай бұрын
بلکل صحیح فرمایا اپ نے.
@furqankhan92854 ай бұрын
Right
@ArmanKhan-fh8wn3 ай бұрын
Right
@GhulamMustafa-lv3tc3 ай бұрын
Ha ya bat to ha duniya news ma ha iak banda pochta tha swal ghamdi sab sy swal
@funnyalways.7 ай бұрын
ڈاکٹر صاحب بڑے سکالر ہیں لیکن اس معاملے میں غامدی صاحب کے موقف سے اتفاق کرتا ہوں۔
@waqasfarooqi21447 ай бұрын
True Islamic scholars in one video ❤️, no need to judge them even Sahab (R.A) had different opinions, it never reflects their negligence but difference in opinions....May Allah protect us from all the evils.
@raoufahmad99677 ай бұрын
Ghamdi isn't scholar. A person who is against beard how come he is scholar?
@sarfraznawaz72487 ай бұрын
@@raoufahmad9967who told you he's against a beard? He can't grow a beard, some men can't grow beards even if they want to.
@farhansiddiqui87037 ай бұрын
Nobody is against beard. But there are many scholars historically who do not consider it mandatory. You want to keep it then very good but dont force other or make it religion.
@emkayy_927 ай бұрын
Best comment I read all day. Both very respectable to me. Both very close to my heart. May Allah bless dr Israr jannah and dr Ghamdi a long healthy life
@Hahahaha3348919 күн бұрын
@@raoufahmad9967Bhai tum wo log ho jo humaray deen mein cheezein fraz nhi hoti unko tum apne uper aur dusaro kay uper fraz samjh lete ho. Jab kay wo farz bhi nhi hoti. Dusari baat ye keh Ghamdi shab saab beard kay bilkul bhi khelaaf nahi hain. Unka maanna ye hai k jisne rakhi bohat achi baat hai. Aur jis ne nhi rakhi usko hakrat ki nigha se nhi dekhna chahiye
@NadeemKhan-fe4xo7 ай бұрын
Agree with dr israr Ahmed sahb Allah Dr sahb ko ghareeq, e, rahmat kare aur Jannat mai aala muqam ata farmaye Aameen.❤❤❤
@hassanansari24627 ай бұрын
غامدی صاحب کے دلائل مضبوط پیش کیئے ہیں اللّٰہ پاک ڈاکٹر صاحب کی اللّٰہ پاک مغفرت فرمائے آمین
@tiktik94134 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@mrsnoreenbasharat69353 ай бұрын
ہندو گائے کے ذبیحہ پر پابندی لگائے گا۔
@mrsnoreenbasharat69353 ай бұрын
جب بھی جنگ ہو گی ہندو انڈیا کی حمایت کرے گا
@mahboobhussain64743 ай бұрын
زکوات ٹیکس کا نعیم البدل نہیں ہو سکتا ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب سے اتفاق
@hassannadeem78466 ай бұрын
The point is simple as Dr.israr saab Said..koi qanoon Agr huga tu wo ALLAH PAK K HUKAM K MUTABIQ OR Quran pak K mutqbiq HUGA..jaisy HAMARY nabi pak(S.A.W) K ZAMANA MAI tha..simple
@maazalikhan99587 ай бұрын
This is what u call ilmi behes... Hamen isse seekhna chahiye ikhtilaf kaise krte hain....!
@QamarChishtiTech7 ай бұрын
Ma Sha Allah Dr. Israr Ahmad
@mehboobilahie1377 ай бұрын
Ghamdi sahabs thinking is very peaceful and non violent...both scholars are great having excellent knowledge but ghamdi sahab is following the peaceful way to spread Islam and knowledge of Islam while as other scholars are supporting violence ...
@RSK.Entertainment7 ай бұрын
Actually the thing you are saying violance are hadood Allah. Strictness depicted 8n Quraan
@UmiKhawlah7 ай бұрын
Haha seriously No preacher is allowed to preach anything against Quran and sunnah. Out deen is mukamal we dnt need any one to teach us anything from there own fallible mind
@RSK.Entertainment7 ай бұрын
@@UmiKhawlah Assalam o Alaikum, Sister Muhaqaq (Researcher) interpret the Qur'an and the Hadith according to the events at which these revelations came to Hazrat Muhammad SAAW. No addition never accepted nor will be accepted.
@AmericaButcherofHumanity6 ай бұрын
Do you dare to say that Sahana and our beloved prophet spread violence. Was was the results of its violence, Peace Everywhere
@ashrafsaqib84206 ай бұрын
@@RSK.EntertainmentNo violence, let the zani enter your home peacefully.
@kingabbasi36857 ай бұрын
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد صاحب کا موقف زیادہ اچھا ہے
@sindhi1782 ай бұрын
me b dr israr ka fan hn lekin yahan ghamdi sahab jeet gae h dr israr muakaml tor per be bas hain
@AyazAli-f4r4 ай бұрын
me dr israr sahb ka sab say bara fan hn lekin yahan debate me dr ghamdi jeet gae hain 😢 unke jawab bht umdaaa hain
@EarnCricsАй бұрын
Bilkul nhi , ghamdi sahab ki boli ek communalism wali hai ,kahin bhi jihad ko ,kahin bhi islami mumlikyat ki support nhi kr rhe ghamdi bas sulah sulah contract contract wali baate kr rhe hain ghamdi sahab .
@islamandamaanАй бұрын
Baat ye nahi ki ghamidi sahb Jeet Gaye Baat ye hai ki tum ne saaf Dil se Dr israr sahb ko nahi sune tum west se influenced ho
@mujahidfiazvlog5853 ай бұрын
کچھ باتیں غامدی صاحب کی ٹھیک ہیں لیکن جو اللّٰہ کا حکم ہے دین کو نافذ کیا جائے ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب بالکل درست ہیں
@tahirukwala7 ай бұрын
No one can reach level of ghamidi sb and israr sb Both are perfect of the way they understand islam
@saqh.44397 ай бұрын
They both can't be right kuch aqal kro
@tahirukwala7 ай бұрын
@@saqh.4439 بھائی آپ نے پورا جملہ نہیں پڑھا میں نے کہا ہے جس طرح جس نے جیسے سمجھا ویسے بیان کردیا لیکن دونوں ہی بہت ہی اچھے دین کی سمجھ رکھنے والے ہیں ویسے آپ کو جو سمجھ آئی وہ لے لو باقی چھوڑ دو
@mohammadmujeeb2757 ай бұрын
Ghamdi sb bekar admi
@Abdull3h_vfx5 ай бұрын
@@saqh.4439 WHY CANT BE? SHOULD I REMIND YOU OF THE HADITH ABOUT ASAR PRAYER?
@khanpukhtun7375 ай бұрын
Dr. israr devoted his entire life to making people understand the Holy Quran. He lived a very simple life. May ALLAH bless his soul in jannat ul firdous
@UsmanAli-v6w1y3 ай бұрын
No one match with ghamidi sahib's knowledge,❤❤❤
@shkhimtiyaz8627 ай бұрын
Dono Khush-akhlaq , bahot khush-akhlaq hai , ( Allah khubul karle in dono ki mahnat )
@waqashanif7217 ай бұрын
Best ever discussion and so much respect shown by both even after having disagreements. Listening properly to each other and not cutting in between
@ibraheembin96747 ай бұрын
Dr israr the great scholar in the world
@Adnchz-jh4ct6 ай бұрын
Ghamdi sb argument is very clear and strong 💯
@zohaibsm5 ай бұрын
Which point are you referring to?
@islamandamaanАй бұрын
West ke pappets hai ye 😂😂
@adnanabid72047 ай бұрын
Both are legends, and so Humbel . During the debate, both are saying I'm disagree with his vision. But they're not saying to other one is Kafir ........etc
@MuhammadIbrahimSoomro-vo2cw6 ай бұрын
Dr Israr sahib is beyond any expediency. He doesn't know hypocrisy. He explains Islam as it is in the light of Quran and Suunah. Whereas Ghamdi sahib tries to please both people and Allah hence he lets his opinion surpass divine teachings. He suits the people who are escapist and want to please both their baser self and Allah.
@ZAKIRHOSSAIN-us1yb7 ай бұрын
Dr. Israr Ahmed Saheb ko Allah Jannah ata kare. In this discussion, on the role of the state, Ghamidi Sb. mentions that the state can impose on its citizens only on matters related to Tawheed, Salah and Zakat. According, to Israr Sb. the state can impose instructions on other matters also and may even order killing of those who do not adhere to the ruling. We all know, that our prophet Muhammed (SAW), establshed the first Islamic state in Medina after which several wars were fought. We also know, several hypocrites refused to go to war with our prophet. Whether these people were ordered to be killed (beheaded) by our prophet, on their refusal to participate in the war? The Quran doesn't say so. To me the argument of Ghamidi Sb. seems to be correct.
@MuhammadAmeenBadri3 ай бұрын
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد مرحوم کے دلائل مضبوط ہیں
@chowdharyaziz7 ай бұрын
They both are great scholars of Islam
@witchking45047 ай бұрын
It is worth noting how peaceful and respectful both are. This is actual way of presenting your arguments without indulging into heated debates. Look at the cartoons these days in the Pakistani tv programs. They keep criticizing and interrupting each other while speaking.
@chiragkhan42248 ай бұрын
Logics of Dr. Israr are way better than logics of Ghamdi Sahb.
@avengers97847 ай бұрын
True
@mehboobilahie1377 ай бұрын
Ghamdi sahab is saying every reference from Quran ...so logics doesn't matter infront of Quran ...first Quran is preferable instead of logics and stories
@Randomvideos-qt3xd7 ай бұрын
Quran pesh karkey sahaba tak rookdia lol
@musk42647 ай бұрын
Because Dr. Sb talking nothing but HAQ....ghamdi is self claimed scholar
@SufyanElahi824 ай бұрын
@@mehboobilahie137 بھائ دوبارہ سنیئے ، غامدی صاحب نے بھی لاجک پیش کیئے اور ڈاکٹر صاحب نے بھی قرآن کی آیات سناییں۔ یہ مناسب نہیں کہ آپ ایک کی بات کو عین قرآن اور دوسرے کو فقط منطق تک محدود کر دیں۔
@MrBilal9003 ай бұрын
I love both Dr Israr Ahmad and Javed Ahmed Ghamdi.. both are respectable and knowledgeable person. Kash humary pass or bi Ulama Karam es terha ky hoty.
@UniversalFactYouTube4 ай бұрын
Dr Israr was one of the greatest scholars of 21st century.
@sumairakhalid45345 ай бұрын
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد نہایت اہم عالم دین ہیں۔دین کے لیے ان کی خدمات ناقابل فراموش ہیں لیکن غامدی صاحب اپنے موقف میں بہت واضح ہیں ۔ ان کے دلائل دین کے غائر مطالعہ کے عکاس ہیں۔
@MrNadeem607 ай бұрын
Masha Allah Dr israr ahmed rehmullah is great knowledge may Allah palce in jannah
@AsmaUsman-ro5pyАй бұрын
May Allah(swt) reward dr Israr.
@Oldmemories-ft9my19 күн бұрын
Ameen ❤
@Madi-ss9bc7 ай бұрын
Ghamidi sahb sound more logical and relatable to Islam. Afterall there is no compulsion in religion. Respect for both❤
@Sportsdesire-zk4sh7 ай бұрын
Ghamdi Jahil
@rjameel.7 ай бұрын
Allah ka hukam hai k deen qaim ho. Namaz deen nhe hai. Haan jabr nhe hai k ap kon sa mazhab akhtiyar krty hain. Har mazhab ki izzat hai. Lekin agar deen ko smjhna hai to khulafa e Rasheeden k dor hukomat ka mutala kren
@ovaistauheed7 ай бұрын
Muneer hadees,muneer return of isa,western secular dubious character,mere mutabiq bhas yehi hai iska,Jo Rai Qur'an aur takrai uski haesyat kudae itni bhi nahin.
@Madi-ss9bc7 ай бұрын
@@rjameel. khulafa e rashideen ki bajaye Hazoor pak (saw) ki zindagi ka mutalia karn tou zada afaaka ho ga
@rjameel.7 ай бұрын
@@Madi-ss9bc khilafat k mamlat huzor k dor me nhe balkay khulafa e Rasheeden k dor me aen hain. Huzoor ki zindagi ka mutala to wese hi krna chahye sirf khilafat k liye to nhe krna. Huzoor k bad jo mamlaat pesh ae hain un ki guidance khulfae Rashedeen se mile gi
@ArslanAmjad-t7s3 ай бұрын
just one word, Amazing, Both are exceptional and logical. I am happy to see both of them together.
@MuhammedNayeemNayeem6 ай бұрын
Dr israr sb Rehmatullahi Great scholar. From India Aligarh Muslim University Tablighi jamat india
@zalanoor55435 ай бұрын
اپ دونوں آمین احسن اصلاحی کے ہونہار شاگرد ہیں
@syedmohammadashar67727 ай бұрын
Doctor Israr sahab was not only logical but also presented textual backing for his arguments while Ghamdi sahab was mostly about his own thinking and softening image of islam with out much backing from devine texts...
@Khawar12777 ай бұрын
He gave all references from Qur'an though
@Screen-Explained7 ай бұрын
Do you have complete confidence that you have watched this video, and you have listened with open eyes and ears? Javed Ghamdi has substantiated each of his points by referring to the Quran, and Dr. Israr has simply echoed the same traditional cleric-like actions. He discussed the foundation of an extremist regime based on what is emerging from the mainstream. Moreover, the final response of Ghamdi in this entire video is like a milestone, proving that he is not following the blind obedience of any individual's invented religion but is indeed discussing Islam, which is the religion of Creator of the universe and is a blessing for the whole world.
@syedmohammadashar67727 ай бұрын
Screen explained ... I've watched this whole debate ... I suggest that you come out of your Ghamdi worship ... Many a times ghamdi sb was forced to concede his argument by dr. Israr ... I am not some deaf listener and I respect Mr. Ghamdi. (For example his stance on concept of Mehdi in Islam is quite convincing while on return of Jesus his Teacher Mr. Amin Ahsan islahi makes far more sense than him similarly I don't agree with dr. Israr's stance on certain issues) but here in this debate its quite evident to any neutral listener that Mr. Ghamdi was completely outscored by Dr. Israr. Mr. Ghamdi was not presenting arguments from Quran rather he is trying to restrict quranic argument only to times of Prophet a.s. while Dr. Israr explained that how quran is for all times and all generations.
@reshailraza5147 ай бұрын
@@syedmohammadashar6772 Let me tell you, this was the first debate where I watched Ghamidi sahab and which made me realize that Ghamidi is bigger scholar than Dr. Israr. Ghamidi sahab was coherent, eloquent and have logical while Dr. Israr sahab was expressive of his views but also just iterating what has already been in circulation of clerics, for example Dr Sahab was never able to contend when asked that Quaid's teachings in cabinet as well as UN's signed chartered his argument started shaking.
@syedmohammadashar67727 ай бұрын
Mr. Raza you don't need to copy and paste your this comment every where on this thread... this not only creates doubt on varacity of what you claim but it also proves a desperate attempt of a andh bakht trying to inflate a punctured tyre. Dr. Israr clearly debunked Mr. Ghamdi's inaccurate claim about Quide's teachings and also that UN and its charter and current international political system is pretty much very recent in terms of historical context. suppose if tomorrow another world order succeeds current one then would you declare that one also to be successor of islam as well just because Mr. Ghamdi or another idol of yours would not want to offend proponents of that world order! ... Dr. Israr's insistence on the order established Prophet a.s. and the rightly guides Caliphs of Islam was way more logical and convincing ... even at one stage When Ghamdi sahab simply reiterated what dr. sahab was saying from the beginning ... Dr. israr said to the host k " YE AB AYE.N HAIN IDHAR" ... anyways instead of pasting the same comment as reply everywhere just read the comments of people under the post.... Clearly overwhelming Majority is convinced by Dr. Israr sahab's arguments.
@juniorjunaid75052 ай бұрын
The way they are respecting each other and giving time to one another to keep their point.. ❤❤❤
@Muzicool7 ай бұрын
Ghamidi sahab's Argument is very strong and clear
@mentalgaming45582 ай бұрын
no disrespect for Javed Ghamdi SB The point where he said that at the time of expansion, the requirement of jiziya and they being 2nd degree citizens if they do not accept islam was because of the the tauheed being common between Muslims and people of book. That is the reason they were given this relaxation in state of war and all the others religions followers were killed. so expansion and jihad (which Ghamdi sb quoted as Kital) was at that time that this was the punishment of Allah at that time for the people just like the punishment for the people who did not follow the previous prophets. So after the Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W) the punishment is over and the idea of expansion of a Muslim state is not valid for the current time. But at the time of Rashidun Caliphate, The requirement of jizya was still given to the people despite they being people of the book or people of other religions. For example the the worshipers of fire were not killed and they were asked to pay jiziya , Accept islam or a battle to decide. So it clears that the expansion was not just a punishment but a role that every Muslim state will need to play if it is a Muslim state. Expansion and punishments are two different things. If the expansion was a punishment form Allah, the people of book would have been asked to pay jiziya and the rest of the people would have been killed if they did not accept islam and would not have been given the option of jiziya. So the expansion is different from "kital" which was ordered by Allah in Surah Tobah.
@nomansaghir1437 ай бұрын
Both personalities are institutions in themselves. Hats off. MashAllah....SubhanAllah. Interviewer Janab Rehan SB is also awesome❤
@princemtvify7 ай бұрын
Dr Israr Ahmed is a legendary personality
@syedshaukat66287 ай бұрын
Masha Allah two gems of Muslim world, great scholars, even after their teachings nd efforts if we don't change us and become good Muslims, then its a tragic situation
@fawadvlogstv4297 ай бұрын
اسلام اور جمہوریت دو الگ چیزیں ھیں۔ جمہوریت میں اکثریت کی رائے مانی جاتی ہے اور اسلام میں اگر ایک شخص بھی حق پر کھڑا ہوگا تو اسی کی مانی جائے گی اسی لیے اسلام اور جمہوریت میں بہت بڑا فرق ہے۔ حق پر وہی ہے جو اسلام میں قران اور سنت کی بات کرے گا۔
@HasnainHaiderAwan2985 ай бұрын
09:48
@tariqdogar99423 ай бұрын
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد مرحوم کو اللہ تعالیٰ جنت لفردوس میں اعلیٰ سے اعلیٰ مقام عطا فرمائیے ۔۔
@BhatBashir-x3fАй бұрын
Dr asrar Ahmad is my inspiration❤
@anashadi16 ай бұрын
What an intellectual and respective debate . Even tough they disagree with each other but no shouting no disgusted face and all things like that. They didn't insulted each other on personal metter... just phenomenal & First time listening javed ghambi this long. man also has some incredible knowledge & perception.. al
@MiribnulIslamFalahi7 ай бұрын
Dr Israr sb what a great personality نور الله مرقده
@spsnish7 ай бұрын
ماشااللہ بہت خوبصورت ڈیبیٹ بہت خوبصورت مہمان خوبصورت اختلاف ادب اور شائستگی کی بہترین مثال یعنی بس کمال ھی کمال اللہ پاک مولانا ڈاکٹر اسرار صاخب کو جنت الفردوس میں اعلی مقام عطا فرماے جناب غامدی صاخب کو صخت و تندرستی عطا فرماے اپنے اپنے دائرے میں دونوں خضرات دیں کے بہترین داعی ھیں
@irfanrahman65520 күн бұрын
Allah bless you sir Dr israr.you are so special 🙏
@Oldmemories-ft9my19 күн бұрын
Ammen
@naqash3537 ай бұрын
غامدیصاحب اللہ تعالٰی آپ کو دنیا اور آخرت کی خوشیاں عطاء فرمائے 🤲🤲 جس طرح اپ نے دین اور دنیا کا علم ہم تک پہنچائیا ہے... وه اپنی مثال اپ ہے. هم اپ کے شکر گزار ہیں... کہ اپ نے دین کو اور قران و سنت کو اس کی صحیح اور اسان شکل میں هم تک پهنچانے کی کوشش کی... الله پاک اپ کی کوششوں کو قبول فرمائے...اور همیں سیدھے راستے پر چلنے اور رھنے کی توفیق دے. امین
@azibhassan8046 ай бұрын
Be shak
@asifshuja86382 ай бұрын
اپنے دین کی فکر کرو یہ بڑا حساس معاملہ ھے
@mohuzaifa168028 күн бұрын
غامدی صاحب نے کب بہت بڑا کام کیا ہے دین کا من مانی تشریحات کی ہیں قرآن و احادیث کی اسلئے ان کو باتوں سے بچنا چاہیے
@raowaqarvicky3717 ай бұрын
MashALLAH both are great scholars, there views and opinions were totally different from eachother but still they didn't raised voice or disrespected. What a graceful personalities God bless them both
@AbbasKhan-ti6vs7 ай бұрын
Dr israr Ahmad was a gem 💎
@JavedIKQ7 ай бұрын
جاوید خامدی صاحب کو اللہ سلامت رکھے ان کا بہت بڑا مطالعہ ہے غامدی صاحب نے واضع دلیل دی ہیں ۔ اللہ پاک ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب کو جنت الفردوس عطا فرمائے
@naqash3537 ай бұрын
Ghamidi sahib ❤❤ A great 👍 intellectual ❤ a great Scholar 👍 Israar sahib isnt ready to review what he has read and how he understood Sarah Toubaa. But israar sahib is our honoured 🎖 Scholar. We love him and kay Allah Almighty accrpt his efforts to teach us and grant him highest level in jannah. Ameen 🙏 🙏 🙏
@medusaachla7 ай бұрын
Ofcourse, both are giant but beyond Arabic peninsula, language is barrier, Ghambi saheb is right, it was not productive, as any nobody's care, islam reached in China, their progeny is paying dearly in kashgar, American are justified for aggressions, poorly understood.
@MuhammadUsman-b4i4 ай бұрын
I wish I had been a student of Dr. Asrar and could have witnessed and learned from him personally. I missed that era.
@raoufahmad99677 ай бұрын
Those praising this ghamdi shows their level of islamic knowledge. Dr Asrar sahab is pure love ❤
@ibrahimtariq86255 ай бұрын
Excellent debate, I think some very good points were made my Mr Ghamdi, no disrespect to Dr Israr, may Allah elevate him to the highest ranks of jannah.
@mustafahaidre2 ай бұрын
ماشاءاللہ غامدی صاحب کے دلائل مضبوط ہیں ❤
@alihasanbashir7 ай бұрын
Great debate! I respect both of their view. Allah dr. Israr ky darjat buland farmaye
@MuhammadUsman-b4i4 ай бұрын
کاش میں ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب کا شاگرد ہوتا اور اپنی آنکھوں سے انہیں دیکھتا اور ان سے پڑھتا۔ کاش میں اس دور میں پیدا ہوتا
@usmankiani87603 ай бұрын
Never to ask such a thing. Allah knows best where you fit in time.
@mohelism2 ай бұрын
What an iconic episode this must have been at that time. Two great scholars sitting together. May Allah guide us to the right path. Ameen.
@naseerkhan66957 ай бұрын
Dr Asrar is absolutely on mark
@irshadali80522 ай бұрын
They both are my heroes. Maybe I like Dr Israr Ahmed more and disagree with Javed Sahab on some topics but I’ve immense respect for him too and love to listen to him. They both are genius so it’s quite possible they will have their own opinions which will be conflicting
7 ай бұрын
Ghamdi sah is great,, even interviewer are biased, ghamdi calmlesly listening and replying with knowledge
@sameerbhat75294 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Hahahaha3348919 күн бұрын
Ghamdi shab is a great knowledge able person. Salute to him for educating people ❤ Thanks ghamdi shab
@asiflangha7 ай бұрын
Ghamdi Saheb is a living legend. Everyone should benefit from his teachings and knowledge. May Allah bless him with long life. Ameen
@Riyaz58386 ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah very healthy discussion b/w 2 big scholars , May Allah accept their struggle towards Allah.❤
@StarBoysb5 ай бұрын
Dr Israr sb marhoom ek Jayyed Aalim ba amal thhe Allah unki qabar ko noor se bhar de
@ziakhan69807 ай бұрын
Kaash kabhee Dr Israr k qadmoun me baith sakta me ❤ kia piyara shakhs hay Allah jannat me aala muqaam ata karey
@asadsyed5617 ай бұрын
Dr Israr is so condident and truthful. Ghamdi seems confused and uncertain.
@wanttoknow-xq5zf3 ай бұрын
Everyone can make a final decision that who's arguments are strong but I personally believe that without a socio economic system, Muslims wouldn't rise , as we are seeing now a days.... Most importantly Parda for women , outside home should be implemented, so that our upcoming girls wouldn't see women without parda outside so they don't follow them ... Dr. Israr Sahab was definitely right at it ... May Allah grant him Jannah (Ameen)
@Businesstrainer237 ай бұрын
Allah Molana Israr sb ko jaanat me jaga farmaye. He was great scholar
@sheikhrashid70374 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with Dr israr ahmad's point of view.
@kashifabbas66037 ай бұрын
Great debat but I am Wait Dr israr
@mralam13146 ай бұрын
Such a delicate topic, which needs to be in light during legislative procedures in our parliament.