Complete Level 100 Viper Guide | FFXIV: Dawntrail

[@MagnusBlacktea]

The only Viper guide that actually makes sense! Actions, change of names, button pictures, explanations. Amazing job!

[@sharlayanforum]

Thank you so much! Stay tuned for more guides, this is my (unnecessarily difficult for myself) standard style!

[@MattHersee]

So helpful! I just unlocked the job and I feel like this is the only guide that really told me what the heck was happening haha. Thank you for the hard work!

[@sharlayanforum]

Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad it's helped! More to come!

[@idk8964]

Wow this is honestly the best class guide I've ever seen. I love that you talk at a normal pace and actually explain things instead of just speeding through the skill tooltips

[@sharlayanforum]

Thanks for the kind words! I try to make my guides helpful for everyone, so stay tuned for more!

[@XChronicHash]

Love how you explained the flow of the job! More job guides pls 🙏

[@sharlayanforum]

Plenty more to come!

[@reignofdreams]

Honestly the shot of the gauge breakdown itself made the entire video worth it. That's really what I needed and everything else is an amazing bonus! Thank you for this great guide.

[@sharlayanforum]

I'm glad it was helpful!

[@Gymnasiarch]

Very nice video, simple explained, easy to understand, pleasant voice ... rly enjoyed it liked and subscribed. Thank you!

[@sharlayanforum]

I'm glad you enjoyed it! More guides to come!

[@Gymnasiarch]

@@sharlayanforum I am looking forward for Sage and Warrior those 2 besides Viper I do play. Thank you Sharlayanforum glad I discovered your channel. I am btw on Twintania EU Light.

[@shadow_psych7069]

Best viper guide I've seen so far. Great video!

[@sharlayanforum]

Wow! Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@Frankthetank302]

Best guide out there for this especially for the gauge explanation and naking it simple. Biggest issue i had was just reading and memorizing all ability action tool tips so much txt tryinf to learn name and what they do and go into besides the flanks vs rears. I try to place my UI where i can see stuff but i have a genetic eye condition which effects my Peripheral vision. So it takes me a while to set my UI where im able to see the blinking/procs and stuff without it cluttering my actual character on my screen so thus helped with the button layout i use on my controller now

[@sharlayanforum]

Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad it's been helpful!

[@Auxi.1]

Appreciate the guide, definitely helped me out as I just returned and didn't understand this job at all. Just telling me the skills that are considered left/right helped immensely.

[@sharlayanforum]

Glad I could help!

[@GLOW3524]

Thank you for this guide!

[@sharlayanforum]

thank you for checking it out!

[@HOLOHOAXTND]

I've watched many guides. But this is the only one I needed. It's all makes sense now.

[@sharlayanforum]

Is this the meme where I put my hand on the cat and it meows as knowledge floods it's brain

[@upbeatgames8819]

Quite clear and helpful guide. Yes I enjoy using viper a lot.

[@sharlayanforum]

Glad it helped!

[@BedStuytroop259]

this has to be the best clear and concise guide I have seen thus far. Least I forget to mention, a lot of the other guides (the voices are grating), so it was a pleasure to listen to a grown person's version. thank you

[@sharlayanforum]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@pookiipower435]

New player. Just unlocked Viper today. This guide makes sense out of the confusion that is the Viper rotations, lol. Thank you!

[@sharlayanforum]

Glad I could help!

[@yokoyokome5281]

Dude thanks for this video. I learned alot ^^!!!

[@sharlayanforum]

Glad I could help!

[@Xemina]

i love that the opener literally is what i do except the pot part, love it \o/

[@Hunch0Grass1ey]

Viper seems so confusing, i usually play casters and have dabbled very little into melees, your video made it much easier to comprehend this class. im still very confused, i dont do lengthy combos very well, but with the right button set up, i think ill enjoy this class!

[@sharlayanforum]

I'm glad to hear it helped!

[@raarasunai4896]

I like to put Rear positionals on the right hand side of my crosshotbars. To help remember it, I use the mental phrase “Right in the butt!” 😂 It applies here to Swift abilities, “a swift kick in the butt.”

[@TheLMBLucas]

When Bard has more actual venom/poison than Viper lol

[@sharlayanforum]

It's a meme for sure, but I'm completely fine with Viper not having DoTs. I think DoT maintenance is a chore unless the job is designed specifically to take advantage of it. It would be sweet to see a full on DoT based DPS with mechanics similar to old Summoner where some skills deal extra damage based on how many DoTs you have ticking on the target, but with how much aversion the devs are showing to DoT management right now, I don't see that happening.

[@TheLMBLucas]

@@sharlayanforum That's how I expected Viper to be and how it should have been... or, you know, just don't call it Viper and don't give it a serpent theme 😂 The weird clash of themes is what's upsetting to me

[@sharlayanforum]

Eh. From the beginning it was pitched as a Turali hunter who uses traditional forms of dual blade combat, so I wasn't super expecting a "theme" revolving around snakes or poisons heavily. We can argue that the name Viper implies that, but the argument could be made just a strongly that it embodies other aspects of the Snake themed very well. Two fangs, swift strikes, movement capabilities, flexibility, etc. They could've named it something else, for sure, like Hunter or Blademaster, but then those also have implications and themes that someone would call into question.

[@TheLMBLucas]

@@sharlayanforum My point, exactly! It could just have been a Hunter, that's very vague and works for it

[@sharlayanforum]

@@TheLMBLucas Sure, it could've been! I think that would create another set of presuppositions that another group of people would think is dumb though. In reality, there's a 0% chance that everyone is satisfied, and I think the vast majority of people would probably think Viper is a better name than Hunter for the job, if for no other reason than it just sounds cooler.

[@DrakeWurrum]

I'm pretty sure that Hunter's Sting or Swiftskin's Sting actually glow based on which attack you are supposed to use next for the 3rd hit (because you will only have the Venom buff for ONE of them, and if you get it wrong you lose it) However, that Venom also forcibly alternates you between Hunter's and Swiftskin's anyways, so unless you do something weird with Dreadwinder, it will also be highlighting the lower duration buff. (Wait, did they really change the name to Vicewinder?) You almost don't even need to track those buffs because of this. TBH i barely look at either the swords or my bars anymore. I start with Reaving into Swiftskin's, which forcibly locks my next chain to be Steel into Hunter's. Every chain alrernates the first two buttons, and then i just have to be mindful of the third attack. Other than that, damn good guide! I look forward to your guides on other melee DPS. My partner needa all the help she can get with RPR!

[@sharlayanforum]

Yeah, I think its unneccesarily vague whether it actually tracks the Sting > Venom or Sting > Buff Duration track, so I kind of just defaulted to the Buff duration since that's the thing that's going to be the most "direct" result of that particular button press, if that makes sense. And yeah, they did change it, for some reason. I have literally no idea why lol Thanks for the kind words! Stay tuned!

[@dingo.p]

Thank you so much for this guide! Now I'm less lost when it comes to Viper and I have a better understanding of what the certain skills do + where to put them on my hotbars. I'm stil confused when it comes to dual blade combos cause they're like entirely separated from the single blade combos and because of that I'm not sure when should I switch to them. But I just started the job so maybe I'll figure it out later.

[@sharlayanforum]

Basically you just rip Dualblade stuff in the opener and then after that, pretty much on cooldown.

[@dingo.p]

@@sharlayanforum I did a fev daily roulettes and I think I know what you mean, thanks! One more question tho but it might be stupid, sorry. Everytime Death Rattle or Last Lash is available I'm still "locked" in animation of the previous attack. If I press the combo finisher then that "previous attack" will be interrupted? Or do I have to wait till the animation is over and theeen press the combo finisher, even tho it's available ~1-2 sec before.

[@sharlayanforum]

Nope! Hitting an OGCD almost never interrupts an attack, even if the animation is still going. In FF, alot of times the animations of an attacks are longer than the actual calculation of the attack itself. This is what people are referring to when they talk about "snapshots" in the game. The server basically registers that you used the last hit of your combo the second you press the button, and registers the damage it deals basically immediately, even though the animation is still going, thus the damage is "snapshotted" before the animation actually ends. There are some attacks, though, that snapshot later than others. These are usually really big hits, and not basic combos, however. An example on Viper is Ouroboros, which snapshots pretty late into the animation, and you can actually drift the damage outside of Buffs even if you press it before the Buffs expire in really tight timings.

[@dingo.p]

@@sharlayanforum Awesome, thank you so much! ♥

[@ryuuzaakii1656]

All gas, no brakes 🔥

[@jmhmikey]

It's incredibly simplistic to play, but I love the constant up time of using the skills.

[@sharlayanforum]

Same! I love that it feels like your foot is just on the gas the whole time

[@leotle6309]

Can you do a hotbar skill setup guide? I saw your hotbar but it doesn't really make sense. 1-9. I see some people just put 1 2. Then serpent thingy on 3. Then 4 5 being those double weave ability. But I just feel like I have to press so much ogcd when sidewinder is up, I can barely move. Pinky on shift, ring on 1, index on 4 5. Repeat, ring on 2, 4 5. Like my only free finger during that time is my middle finger. That's it. To press W. 😂 And my thumb.

[@sharlayanforum]

I'm not sure I'm super interested in doing hotbar setup guides because it's such a personalized thing. Keybinds vary so much person to person that I don't know it's appropriate or reasonable for me to say, "This is the right way to do it." However, I will say that I use an MMO mouse with a thumb grid, so I utilize 1-12 and use Shift and Alt as modifiers for those 12 keys, so 36 buttons on just left pinky and right thumb.

[@slimfastsubaru2043]

Only thing id change is pot window. seems potting at 2/8 mins has higher dps. Your first 2 minute window is so big the pot there is just better, m3s is an exception tho. Fights so long you get an extra pot doing it in opener. Been barsing 99s with no extra raid gear besides 1 augmented ring.

[@sharlayanforum]

Yeah, I've considered holding it for first raid buff window to see how it performs, but hadn't tested it much before making this.

[@boredlord266]

Viper has really solved my feeling of being lost after the changes to Sam and then Drg. After doing the normal raids for the first time last night it just felt amazing to play. Double awakening fell so gooood!!

[@TEKn011]

I miss 7.01 Viper ;n;

[@sharlayanforum]

I find that the gameplay isn't really any different, personally! I get managing the debuff is fun for a lot of people, but I think that it being there or not really only changes how often you use Reaving Fangs in a window.

[@justingriffin2360]

What’s your take on hitting a triple reawaken? I’ve gotten a third in there with serpents ire a few times without my buffs falling off

[@sharlayanforum]

It's possible but the setup seems like it is super jank and usually requires at least some sub-optimal decision to make it possible without losing Buffs. I'm sure someone will figure out a way to make it work flawlessly with a super high sks build at some point though, probably later in the expansion when we have naturally higher crit

[@DrakeWurrum]

Its possible, but you wont be able to fit all 3 in raid buffs, so there's no specific gain.

[@Vi3taZnDr4gOn]

what do you mean by keeping 1 stack of rattling coil for "movement"?

[@sharlayanforum]

It's very useful to have around in case you need to disconnect from the boss for forced downtime mechanics that take you out of melee range.

[@Vi3taZnDr4gOn]

@@sharlayanforum ahh gotcha makes sense. I was trying to figure out if the stack gave me a movement speed buff or something lol or if it gave a movement but the dash is the slither skill lol

[@HyouVizer]

extremely good guide, I honestly didn't know what the sword gauge did until now haha. I just kept alternating combos on my own not paying attention to it. I will miss gnash debuff, idk why they removed it, nobody had issues with it at all despite patch notes reasons saying otherwise. Viper as a whole feels hollow overall, it gives the illusion of depth when there isn't much. You switch combos that both do roughly the same thing. Blue aura attacks is just the same attack on a series of different buttons. Usually other jobs do a better....job, of masking this, while Viper is simplicity is out in the open. It really is the melee Summoner with monk speed, dancer flashy extra buttons and samurai rotation buff upkeep.

[@sharlayanforum]

It's certainly not the most complex, but I enjoy playing it. I don't find that I require the difficulty of a job to be high as long as it's engaging and fun to play, and I have a lot of fun hitting buttons on Viper. I think outright removing Noxious Gnash was a weird choice, but it doesn't affect the overall flow of the job very much for me, personally.

[@slimfastsubaru2043]

I just finished the savage tier and tbh, thank God gnashing debuff is gone. There are parts on every fight that would have felt like shit if it was still a thing. I was mad at first, now I'm happy about it

[@sharlayanforum]

@@slimfastsubaru2043 It definitely removed a lot of the more janky setup that was required before going into reawaken windows

[@Itachiflameamaterasu]

I dont really get why people are so upset over a debuff as if it was a whole skill like Kaiten or something lol, the job literally plays the same without, if anything it was just a hindrance to keep the uptime on certain fights. The job is fun as hell.

[@sqooops]

@@sharlayanforum i feel the same way!! i think that a lot of jobs are engaging and fun because they're complex and have a lot to keep track of and think about, but viper is engaging and fun because it's so free-form that you have to choose how to use all your tools and approach each fight, even if it's simpler on the whole. it's fun and i like swinging my swords around :)

[@KirkOrion666]

Yup. I'll never get it.

[@sharlayanforum]

Even with how I broke it down!?

[@KirkOrion666]

@sharlayanforum i'm dumb that way. Dont worry about it. I'll just keep playin MCH.

[@sharlayanforum]

@@KirkOrion666 I get it. I'm the same way about Scholar.

[@wolrereaper]

123, 123

[@sharlayanforum]

You have successfully described the most basic version of every job in the game!

[@wolrereaper]

@@sharlayanforum 123, 123

[@lThellRockl]

im done with Viper now. its slow as fuck right now. they shouldnt have touched it. it was perfectly fine. i'm on Picto now and Warrior which i fell inlove with. i'm glad i got viper to 100 beforethe nurf.

[@stuckNcloudz]

Not a single change to Viper "slowed" it down 🤔

[@sharlayanforum]

I'm not sure what you mean by slow, but I think it's certainly less intensive going into bursts without Noxious Gnash!

[@the7blargs]

Not even nerfed it's doing a lot of damage still I still think it was unnecessary to remove Gnash but Yoshi only listens to casuals I guess

[@strictlybananas]

It’s functionally identical lol

[@slimfastsubaru2043]

​@the7blargs it's quite literally the highest dmg job, by a mile. Check fflogs. Thst person is dumb xD

[@tylerstewart3181]

Press shiny button. DPS achieved