John Mayer and Jerry Lorenzo Talk Nike Air Fear of God Collab, Kanye West & More | Complex Cover

[@mikearmas1141]

"I just wish figuring out your life didn't take your life away from you" -john damn

[@elicst300]

Lewis deep

[@AllenSpector]

RIP Mac.

[@Americansikkunt]

I'm 12 and this is deep.

[@TheEthanxD]

@@AllenSpector most underated comment 2019 award goes to................ALLEN SPECTER!

[@Ben-ng3og]

Ethan Ashton I hate white people

[@kaushikpawar2111]

John Mayer seems like the most intellectual celebrity on complex so far .

[@allstateitsinyourhands9765]

joe udden

[@datgarciagarcia]

Thank you thanos man

[@CC-di6mx]

He’s a guitar master. Guys crazy good

[@cheerfuljuan]

that intellect really shows in his lyrical ability as well

[@kaushikpawar2111]

@@datgarciagarcia i wish he could teach some of it to Joe Budden

[@elcamaleon97]

Jerry sounds like he is about to cry every time he speaks

[@carlosv8088]

lol

[@thomashines100]

Its him speaking with honesty and conviction

[@rockoutkids]

Haha

[@tvtvrain]

w

[@ramiromartinez1423]

LMFAO

[@homiespirit]

I really respect John’s initiative to speak directly about Kanye after Joe posed a question insinuating Kanye. What John was saying about the need to discuss Kanye that people tend to step away from is so true. I also very much respect Jerry’s love for Kanye as a close friend to not speak negatively about him or outright bash him. Both of these guys just radiate class and creativity so much.

[@jaggermurlin6343]

Caleb Garello joe says Kanye thougj

[@younglord2140]

Caleb Garello time stamp?

[@homiespirit]

Question asked at 18:38

[@timmerslee1452]

John Mayer can host a show

[@nemo2327]

Timmers Lee he’s got one on ig live

[@whyaskmenoely25]

He has hosted a show before and he killed it

[@markwaltersmedia6956]

yeah he's really got the "it" factor

[@eye_need_jesus817]

“Current Mood” on his IG Sunday nights

[@WhoIsBenji]

Dude needs a podcast

[@TeddyBaldassarre]

This interview was therapeutic for the soul. Awesome discussion that I enjoyed tremendously. Thanks for making this happen, Complex.

[@dimbrewingco]

Teddy Baldassarre John Mayer wrist watch check

[@itsmeJulianScott]

@@dimbrewingco y

[@MultiStar84]

You would like a fkn douche bag dude “therapeutic for the soul”??? Smh 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@pranavkamath4329]

It's interesting to find niche youtubers in the comments

[@bensavage4575]

2 uptight narcissists in junk sale clothes? I'll watch it to see how,

[@ImDougDimmadome]

John’s been through a lot personally and professionally. It shows with all the points he’s making here. Our modern day Obi Wan.

[@breachilds9025]

Doug Dimmadome couldn’t agree with you more

[@thestarwarsfan5826]

Beautifully described. And very true

[@viktorceder4985]

John has continued to be 30 ever since he turned 30.

[@blackmarketdiy9963]

Viktor Ceder and he’s 41 too lol but you’re right he hasn’t aged in yearsssss

[@stephanroy4962]

Viktor Ceder i strangely understand this comment, even though I can’t quite explain it.

[@thefashionreview9622]

@@stephanroy4962 yeah I can explain it he's just acts and looks 30

[@ssboooy4153]

He's the most 30 year old out of every 30 year old who ever lived

[@krishmangat3224]

@@ssboooy4153 hahaha

[@makeaneffort3775]

John's statement of "getting to ride the ride again" is the epitome of good mental health.

[@leaveitorsinkit242]

What does that mean?

[@arnold536]

@@leaveitorsinkit242to begin again with your soul, precisely to enjoy the ride and go along with it, find yourself, become a rookie again and yea like he also said nobody gets to stay here so just enjoy the ride while you're at it

[@chrisgiere9754]

i think john mayer could answer any question in the universe with an analogy. kitchens and robots

[@Will-kl5ri]

Dudes a genius

[@terryfonz4603]

Word

[@lapelcelery42]

John often gives two or three analogies in the middle of a sentence to explain it. It would be such a waste for someone who can do that to not become a songwriter.

[@thomasennss]

Do a John Mayer goes sneaker shopping please

[@yungxwill5688]

I´ve been asking for this for the longest time :(((

[@Saad-ju8sb]

Tbh considering they got him in the office, it might be on the way

[@thomasennss]

@@Saad-ju8sb that's what I was thinking, but just in case

[@rizkymarliansyah5668]

He will buy Visvim, like ONLY VISVIM.

[@thomasennss]

@@rizkymarliansyah5668 na he's with nike. He wears his acronym presto's and vapormax's alot, I'm sure he would buy some nike stuff

[@xpager]

John was right, music is built on familiarity.

[@KeetyPooh]

You can really say the same for any art form.

[@johnnyng8527]

just like some of us trashtalked abt yeezy, but then turned out alot of us copped them

[@jacknick7582]

i think they're both built on familiarity, it's just that john's thinking about the "fashion" world in particular, which is akin to considering merely the jazz music fans

[@miirandagarciia]

Okwuose Alexander exactly

[@bensavage4575]

No other guy is right. What you wear is so much more conservative. Music can be outrageous from nowhere, it's a nebulous thing which is only visible with electrospectroscope, (or smthng ;) He was wrong.

[@heavesent7]

Joh Mayer took them to school. GOAT!

[@MultiStar84]

Stupidest thing I've ever heard. How did he take him to school?

[@aarond9563]

He's the greatest of all time yet you don't know how to spell his name? Yikes. Sorry that was mean.

[@PedrooFerroo]

GOAT

[@d26s10]

The nuances he manages to express through analytical, humorous, emotional story telling is just beyond! My gosh I’d actually be scared if I had his mind!

[@TheRyanKellner]

Title: “Jerry and John talk about their new sneaker collab” *cue deep conversation about anything and everything*

[@kindofoverit5549]

John’s break down on Kanye’s free thinking ideology is great

[@mgdkns6678]

Kind of Over it at what minute is that? 😁

[@Mat0m]

@@mgdkns6678 24:11

[@mgdkns6678]

Mat0m thank you:)

[@MultiStar84]

He made no sense dumbass

[@theonlyone261]

@@MultiStar84 Maybe you just can't keep up.

[@Justin-qp6jq]

Mayer is the greatest. Proof that a celebrity can come down from being so egotistical to one of the most level-headed, down to earth guys. Plus the fact his fits are always what he is into is just inspiring. Find what you like and make your own drip with it. When Jerry talked about being 'depressed' during making the Nike collab tho, smh.. what was that about

[@Sturnburn772]

He was overwhelmed by the work and expectations. That's about it as far as I can tell

[@Justin-qp6jq]

@@Sturnburn772 I completely agree that he meant that, but to go as far to say "I may need to go to the hospital" and "worst year of my life" in my opinion means he needs a pretty big reality check. How about those people who lost their houses - or worse - in the fires in Cali, pretty sure you being stressed from getting to design a shoe for Nike is nothing compared to something like that. Words should be chosen more carefully. Maybe saying something like, "I have never experienced creative stress as I did from this project to the point of mental exhaustion. I needed to take a step back and breathe. I would think twice about doing it again." Makes way more sense. Which I think is the difference between him and Mayer, the way they use their words. Anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

[@joe_stepik]

You forget that this guy went to rehab just so he can be humble today. He's a great artist, however, his taste in sneakers is scary.

[@jon-thomasroyston1399]

@@Justin-qp6jq I feel you, I feel like he's just an emotional being, but there's definitely a major difference in how both of them are wanting to be received by the public.

[@sullenbode283]

@@Justin-qp6jq 100% - that was whack. Way too dramatic

[@andrewh9285]

John Mayer: Analogy Extraordinaire

[@sullenbode283]

He talks like a stoner lol

[@terryfonz4603]

Free I think your onto something

[@Joshuaneal19]

This isn’t a “who’s smarter” or “who’s better” scenario and I think we should stop painting that narrative because you’ll rob yourself of what you can learn from both of these creative geniuses. Don’t hear both of them, LISTEN to both of them, learn from both of them and add it to your life/personal goals. They’re small “disagreement” didn't make either of them right or wrong. They’re just two different perspectives within an art that can be very synonymous. That’s it. Everyone’s thought process, opinions, views, way of expression, etc isn’t supposed to be the same. If it was we’d be bored with each other. We’re lucky to listen to an interview with these two gifted gentlemen.

[@mfundodlamini8544]

Watching this made me feel like John Mayer is on another level of mastery, I was lured into feeling like he is smarter but I started listening to the other dude. Without judging but force myself into his perspective.....that's how I began to feel like this was a brilliant conversation between two individuals. That is how I learn everyday.

[@sicboi]

John bringing 2916 knowledge and insight in 1985 fashion, dude is a real time traveler.

[@whitneykibble7979]

I just want to talk to John Mayer for an hour. He is such an intellect and seems to have an old soul. There is a lot going on behind the image there that I don’t think many people get to see. Great interview.

[@f12got49]

John Mayer fresh asf without trying

[@Schnidler]

completly stoned

[@masonkiller4792]

He's only rocking fear of god.... styled by Jerry...... how is he fresh?

[@jeus_saaa]

Mason Killer47 I doubt he's styled by Jerry. I mean he's wearing FOG for that interview but I think that's his style. He's been fly ever since he came back

[@soraheart5556]

Ivan Lesmana Susanto how about the jeans in the interview?

[@anachronismic]

Can I just say, you act like John Mayer doesn't put effort into dressing but like, no one buys visvim and doesn't put effort into dressing haha

[@FutonJohn]

John Mayer dropping real gems

[@gatorfan15wp]

always does..

[@darrenhartigan3033]

yeah glad i watched

[@cloudsweater]

John sounds and looks like he actually meant everything he says. Man is an intellectual.

[@Jsouv10]

When you realize John Mayer is 41...

[@mgdkns6678]

Joseph Souvannasy Jared Leto is almost 47

[@5megamind]

@@mgdkns6678 John Mayer not Jared Leto

[@mgdkns6678]

Mustaqim My point was Jared (46 or so) is older than John Mayer(41), and he still looks like in his 30's.

[@youraveragepasser-by7367]

@@mgdkns6678 Jared Leto has good genes. John takes care of himself physically, he looks his age but is still trendy and has a great fashion sense.

[@jameshenderson6715]

A lot of people don’t know just how smart and articulate Mayer is. Furthermore he has a huge passion for things like street wear and sub cultures. I get being like “why is this musician here” but y’all need to know he belongs.

[@amyt7897]

Sorry, John owned this interview. He’s above this interview and can stand by it

[@blakestockard702]

Amy Thies agreed

[@_BASIC_INSTINCT]

Jerry added nothing to this lol

[@nguont]

Amy Thies why say sorry though ? Just speak your mind

[@jacknick7582]

why yall makin it a competition lol? i heard what jerry was sayin too

[@BIGDO13]

said no one ever... lol....

[@nemo2327]

This one of the dopest convos I’ve heard in a while. GEMS.

[@JackAHowell]

John Mayer's too intelligent and articulate to be in this conversation. The level of talent he has and the product he's produced is in another stratosphere to Lorenzo.

[@jr4chargers]

Totally agree. lol

[@hitswitchken]

Agree 100

[@bensdusty1693]

Bruh leave larenzo alone head asss they both work well in their different spaces fashion for jerry and music for john

[@gumby624]

Uh what? Lorenzo has created a fashion aesthetic that is and has shaped the fashion world.

[@JackAHowell]

@@gumby624 'has shaped the fashion world'. Pause. HAHAHAHAHA. He's made an ath-leisure version of Rick Owens.

[@enlightSC15]

Any interview with John and it is GOLD

[@willtuanaki1854]

The most appealing concept behind this interview - to me - was the idea of free thought. Which John has in droves. There was no agenda he had in mind other than being himself. I felt Lorenzo had a tendency to want to talk about his brand though, without any legitimate evidence of his passion for either the fashion, sports, or hip-hop culture - at least for someone on the outside looking in like myself. I don't know him, first time hearing of FoG. One of the things that I respect about John Mayer isn't just his creative musicianship. He's incredibly intellectual and a student of humanity itself. The human experience being the core of all artistic expression.

[@therealgentlemensclub]

Pretty well said my friend. Mayor has been able to take things a bit deeper. Mix that deepness in with a celebrity and performing music artist and that is John. Its hard to say it any differently, but he is on another level intellectually. Everyone is different though. Jerry I believe is one of the best designers to do it. His simplicity and even John said it about the touch on his jackets. It's really a calming brilliance. Respect to both for sure. I was uncomfortable for Jerry and Joe, but enjoyed hearing John talk about such relevant information and culture.

[@noreaction1]

Give John a talkshow

[@riaville82]

yes !!!

[@lovingandsporty910]

Every Sunday on his ig he goes live

[@blackops2isreallybad]

Every Sunday night, check his Instagram @johnmayer

[@BostonsF1nest]

A podcast would suffice, I’m good with instagram live every Sunday lol

[@Mimimph]

This video is one of the most visually gorgeous, perfectly balanced conversations with John Mayer, Jerry Lorenzo and Joe La Pluma. There’s a lot to process intellectually, emotionally, creatively and aesthetically. I will definitely watch it over and over again. Thank you!

[@ohshitsz]

Mimi Hodgkins yes you are right!!! Would you like to converse with me your view of creativity you seem like a brilliant person to speak to maybe we could do email?

[@msmmr3018]

So many people hate John but when you hear him explain something, or just talk in general you see he is so intelligent. He may have been arrogant but he’s more mature now and has such a different look on life and it’s so interesting. I love him ❤️❤️

[@GoodxJ]

I'm so glad that John got to be on 'Swimming', definitely album of the year and one of Mac's best albums !!! Long Live Malcolm. Legend!

[@AyikosMedley]

Wow! Praying for Jerry , for him to share his anxiety and depression story at the height of success is very humble and honest. John has clearly spent a lot of time with his thoughts. Both insightful guys

[@preacherduderox]

Thank God Mayer reigned in the free thinking conversation.

[@andrewrozich3805]

If you want more John Mayer analogies, go to Hoodinkee's channel and listen to him talk about IWCs

[@LohaTV]

sobriety is a hell of a drug

[@Jpinedo777]

Loha TV Llllmmaaaaooo , I got you, funny comment

[@darrenhartigan3033]

VVVVVVVV.....TRUE..😍💖🙂the vestt

[@THEHumanExperience]

This dialogue was beyond inspirational. This was such a deep and honest discussion. I'm going to listen to this so many times... Huge thanks to Complex for making this happen!!!

[@hdog24]

John’s take on free thinking was 100% accurate but it totally went over those other two dudes heads.

[@Rockstar_chainz]

This interview is amazing. John has such an insightful perspective. Truly inspiring.

[@breachilds9025]

I real life just watched this whole video. That’s how much I respect and love everything that comes out of John Mayer’s mouth. He is the genius the world should listen to. Not throwing shade on Kayne but John knows how to form and execute an intelligent thought.

[@Byluisangel]

Jerry keep saying the kids, like kids be spending 400$ on sneakers retail you trippin stop

[@ghostgrizzly_]

yeah if he is marketing to kids he isn't going anywhere

[@Blingblow_779]

Luis Ortiz he means the youth and the hypebeast kids that use mama and pops credit card and yes I’ve seen also lil kids that don’t know brands but easily ask moms to drop a rack jus because it’s a Tuesday. Your trippin if you don’t think kids aren’t coppin retail hype shit. It’s sad but true.

[@Byluisangel]

@@Blingblow_779 these are dope but far from hype it's just designer complex nike and Jerry are going off the rails dropping checks to make these a monumental shoe but they're not I fw them heavy but imo they wont be something like sw 97s or off whites but at the end of the day I dont think that matters these will sell out so ig that's what counts

[@princemarkanthony500]

All sneaker heads are kids.. he knows what he saying

[@Suckitupthrift]

Luis Ortiz you’d be surprised how many 12-17 year olds buy sneakers. I’m sure that’s what he means by “kids”

[@kennethdavid6630]

John Meyer composer is actually attractive. Jerry Lorenzo confidence is top tier. Both of them are experts in their field. I just feel John is a better speaker or loves to talk while Jerry just loves to listen and chip in... Beautiful conversation, great interview.

[@Isaac-zc3cy]

yo john mayer is smart af

[@diegomahoudeau934]

of course he is a guitarist not a rapper

[@MultiStar84]

no, you are just dumb.

[@Will-kl5ri]

No John is incredibly intelligent

[@GOD999MODE]

He's had tons of therapy and time for self reflection. He's also a rockstar in his own right and understands the music business and people. Experience, time, age, and self reflection makes you wiser.

[@eddiemac102]

This was a great conversation. Enjoyed the talking points about sacrificing certain lifestyles in order to improve your overall well being. Two great minds here. Joe you were dope too lol.

[@eye_need_jesus817]

Eddie Mac Two minds? Either Mayer has a hidden siamese twin that only you know about or you saw a different video. Jerry’s body language and speech tells me that he’s just a self righteous asshole that threw a tantrum because his ego wasn’t fed. Just like Trump calling the media the enemy of the people because they made him look bad.

[@eddiemac102]

@@eye_need_jesus817 I hear you. He may of come off a little emotional at times during the conversation but the guy has passion for what he does. I can't deny the work he's put in with his brand and the impact it's had on the fashion industry. He hustled to where he got.

[@eye_need_jesus817]

Eddie Mac He’s not passionate man, he’s disengaged because he only wanted to easily plug his product and didn’t expect to actually think critically. He’s a businessman who just wants your money but Mayer just destroyed his cosmogony and little insecure Jerry doesn’t know how to fight back so he shuts down

[@eddiemac102]

@@eye_need_jesus817 I don't think either of them thought of this as a debate or a fight as you say. Just disagreements in certain ideas and learning from each other. For example, Mayer asking him about the 2 pieces of clothing with one being blank and the other having FOG on it. I agreed with Mayer about how the culture gravitates to name brands but I also agreed with Jerry about putting your all into whatever you do and not simply relying on the name brand and reputation of it. So I don't want to just act like good information is only coming from John. But yeah, Jerry did sound a little shabby with some of his talking points.

[@eye_need_jesus817]

Eddie Mac That was Mayer calling him out for ripping of designs from Rick Owens and literary screen printing Fear of God on vintage T-shirts for Maxfeiled and selling them for hundreds. Jerry is a scammer and has been putting down other creators the past two years, this was a moment for the culture where Jerry’s the one getting bullied

[@MattTonite]

This is a really good, honest, relevant, sincere interaction with JM and JL. It was so refreshing to hear these two people... it’s like we were just there as a fly on the wall listing to a really intimate and sincere conversation as opposed to the staged questions and contrived answers we’re so used to hearing in ‘interviews’.

[@mulatsallegn7208]

Matt Grey wsaw aswasweswwaswaqasw sawsaw saw adwesawsaawmnhhdbcccftusd

[@YoutanPoluo]

Johns style IQ matches his intellectual IQ. Unlike the countless “fashion influencers” that seem to be empty vessels just wearing heat but lack substance.

[@singleviewer1393]

John figuerd everything out. He's like an open book which can't wait to be read

[@jenniferjones5510]

Couldn't have said that ANY better. I could listen to his conversational points on virtually anything all day

[@leaveitorsinkit242]

Sure… but I wouldn’t say he’s easily understood by people.

[@elisasandoval2686]

John you spoke sooo eloquently about Mac, months later the loss is felt. God bless

[@SomethingStrange1579]

Hope all have a beautiful and productive week

[@paulopalacio6437]

SOMETHING STRANGE TV thank you

[@cheesekimbap2996]

but at the same time people are looking for something new.

[@jacknick7582]

gtfoh

[@bobbob24able]

@@cheesekimbap2996 dawg what the fuck does this comment have to do with anything

[@hsy2455]

Mayer's comment about Kanyes' disposition is next level. Some Pacific Rim parallels which made it not so hard to fathom.

[@josephwaldrup110]

Mayer has a cartoon character villain voice. Speaks very well.

[@jacknick7582]

Joseph Waldrup although in actuality a villain would be monotone like trump

[@stephanroy4962]

Joseph Waldrup but also the singing voice of an angel. Holy shit, John is Lucifer. Haha jk, John’s my dude!!

[@Dayo_kid]

John’s argument on discipline in free thinking is so well rounded I hope those opposed to his idea truly heard what he said

[@AgavePiper]

There were many nuggets that I took away... the one that stood out to me is how an artist must step away a bit to come back stronger. I agree with John’s point as I go through this in business. There is always someone that wants to be center of attention. I’m not that guy so I sit back and let them have their moment. Eventually, they fizzle out and people seek you out for wisdom. I have seen this over and over again. I forget who said this but, you must have the courage to speak up but the wisdom to stand down.

[@CuttinUpGetGapped]

Y’all need to realize that half of John’s appeal is that he listens well too.

[@llewynyue6831]

John be giving out his honest ideas and you can feel that's from the bottom of his heart, I respect Jerry could speak out his disagreements too, but he didn't open enough in this conversation imo.

[@BostonsF1nest]

Llewyn Yue that’s cuz he was too busy resenting John

[@AL1NO3]

Yellow pair is flames 🔥

[@Eighty8k]

Damn that social media enabling comment was too real So glad John is still here with us. This dude is probably one of the wisest people out there

[@wigunans]

John mayer Style is best

[@bigstunna2049]

That jerry seinfeld style🔥

[@binwahli8082]

@@bigstunna2049 HIS WARDROBE IS COURTESY OF JERRY LORENZO'S BRAND "FEAR OF GOD"...SO HE'S WEARING JERRY'S VISION..

[@bigstunna2049]

@@binwahli8082 my 2 personal style icons are jerry lorrenzo and seinfeld

[@binwahli8082]

@@bigstunna2049 FOR ME IT'S LENNY KRAVITZ.

[@bigstunna2049]

@@binwahli8082 respect

[@BeatleLoverification]

Both my parents were alcoholics and their was a point of my life where I was becoming one. Hearing someone like John taking responsibility and appreciating his talents enough to stop brought a tear to my eye, good for you both!

[@apryanto-b7184]

Thanks complex to bring John Mayer and Jerry together

[@EErriic1]

John’s metaphor game 💯

[@NoelFlorGOLF]

This interview was refreshing. I understood what John and Jerry were saying even if I disgreed on something slightly. For the most part you couldn’t really argure with what was said because it was all observational. They are both right. I think from the music to fashion industry discussion the concept of “familiarity” absolutely exists on both sides equally. Proposing new ideas and putting abstract ideas out comes with a lot of heat and is quite hard at times - but if you end up finding “it” you have it. I think all art has that. When something that is singular is executed well some elements used emanate and can become the norm. John may have felt that fashion doesn’t hold that same “you have to earn it,” but it definitely does... I see where he was coming from though as it can be very difficult to earn excitement in the music industry for the long haul. People know what “FOG” stands for and will buy into that all itself, but he had to earn that. Many people know from Jerry’s earlier collections that some pieces he put out we weren’t seeing everywhere, and nowadays when we see his clothing we know it’s him. It became a part of culture. Same with John and his music! Sorry for the rant. This interview made me excited, and I never get excited about things anymore cause I’m dead inside. Have a good one.

[@yungxwill5688]

I feel like Jerry feels intimidated by John, like he has to 1up him 24/7

[@lamefart]

Yeah and John brushed it off at times making him like swatting some fly... 🤣

[@georgedavidson2024]

@@lamefart lmao that sobriety question, “good for you” JM is ice cold

[@lamefart]

@@georgedavidson2024 too subtle actually, it's JM - a former egomaniac.🙃

[@Saad-ju8sb]

The amount of passion these three guys have for what they do makes me so damn happy

[@Alec_McCloskey]

Jerry is still in that "grind" mentality and that is great, but John Mayer just has that realistic experience and approach. You cant live life in this "Hard work will get me through" mentality because life is going to punch you in the gut, and bring reality to the forefront real quick...Much respect to both of these guys, but Mayer is the ultimate intellectual businessman who is constantly thinking outside the box, outside the universe, outside reality. No arguments from him, just facts. Bravo sir.

[@lucaslopez7779]

This was by far the most culturally powerful interview I've seen... They deserve there fame and moment of the scene.

[@1jaaay]

Man. That beat at 7:43 is amazing. I need it. Now.

[@NoMoreNamesAvailabl1]

Man Jerry is still a creative genius. It can't be denied that his fits are clean as fuck. It's like geometric shapes and fashion in one. It's a shame it's so expensive but I'd definitely rock some of his new line

[@joshuashane6940]

“It’s a beautiful thing when you realize how valuable life is” 🔥🔥🔥

[@speedwolf5212]

John Mayer’s pickle rick custom Nike was shockingly good.

[@tantanlegoman16]

Parts of this feels like a pissing contest. These dudes aren’t on the same page, weird interview tension. Johns brilliant

[@BostonsF1nest]

I thought it was funny how when Jerry was making the boxing analogy, when he said “I wanna knock you out” he looked right at John... Jerry resents the fuck outta John, you can literally feel it

[@nicholasboule5134]

@@BostonsF1nest i think its more like John taking over and cutting off Jerry and telling him his statements are wrong. at 24:02 he literally tells Jerry "NO" like what he is saying isnt valid. to me thats a massive sign of disrespect. Let Jerry say what he things god damn. Egotistical AF

[@johnnyzalami]

@@nicholasboule5134 calm down lol

[@lamefart]

@@nicholasboule5134 he threw his own opinion. He's proven Jerry wrong based on his personal experiences. Like the 7-month hiatus to learn Dead songs when he had to rebut Jerry's belief that you won't succeed if you take yourself out of the game.

[@nicholasboule5134]

@@lamefart learning great artists music is in no way "taking yourself out of the game" and that is besides my point, i put a timestamp of where John literally tells Jerry No, to a subject that has no right or wrong answers, again trying to invalidate Jerry's beliefs. John did not use the words "I believe, or In my Opinion"

[@armandolanz2920]

15:12 that is literally the best reference jaja so inspiring, I am a manager of a crazy amazing restaurant in the Jungle, and this motivated me so much. Thru Corona I've been strugglin to really understand what i have for me in the future. I get it now. Work, stress... Hope. Keep the art alive.

[@preacherduderox]

John’s the GOAT. And these kicks are crazy.

[@EricDBruce]

I'm not very familiar with either people or industries, but I'm floored at how enthralling this conversation and editing was. Thank you algorithm.

[@rashadjones]

22:38 this thought tells me everything I need to know about Jerry Lorenzo. Well said and it'll go over the head of the people that are only here for the merch...

[@user-rb6wz5yr3o]

🙏

[@princemarkanthony500]

The real ones will know

[@runyoursneakers1292]

Rashad Jones probably the best part, shit made me think.

[@torenreaves8810]

I love their dynamic and that they aren't afraid to push back on each other and then take the feedback and genuinely consider the opposing view. I absolutely loved this.

[@Jenovard]

John Mayer really represented here. That was an impressive interview.

[@pagesegovia2026]

After this interview Jerry had to change his WHOLE brand's name to "Fear of John"

[@khawarahmed7492]

John Mayer has such a way with words, the man is full of wisdom!

[@deborahbushirisafi2146]

the man is trying to sound intellectual so bad...He is still egoistical...making the interview all about his point of views...not leaving room for Jerry to speak his mind. They are both talented individuals but John really is cringy...I did not mean to rant here...Sorry

[@fedebenavides]

Truly moving. This interview is a game changer, listening to two people at the top of their fields be honest is inspiring. Also a great job from Joe, truly dope.

[@imdavidshin]

hands down one of my favorite interviews ever.

[@kelly_browning]

Oh wow, John Mayer! I wasn’t ready for the gem drops, but I’m here for it!

[@NoahsCreation]

Is Jerry just making shit up? Also, John Mayer owned this interview

[@PokeSteven]

I'm out of words, one of the best interviews I've seen ever. John and Lorenzo are beyond amazing artist

[@CARTOONx22x]

we need a John Mayer and Kanye west interview together

[@niekvanwensen]

The way John just comes up with so many nice metaphors on the spot is mad impressive

[@Sea_witch_]

Aging Wrinkles called John, he never answered.

[@oneoffasmr7971]

Annelie Se. Strange to notice, but fog founder actually looks older here. Theyre both doing great stuff for nearing middle age

[@ydaphuck__youlyin6978]

Facts lol

[@shinebabyshine.]

Exactly. I had to look up his age. Hair is still thick and thriving

[@kgisabeast]

He wears makeup for interviews like this he's said on his instagram. Not taking away anything but still

[@TheJudeJane]

Lukas Mayer's skin still baby smooth with or without makeup, yes! Dude is 41 and does not look a day over 28! That's the shizzle! -Jude

[@jonathanwilliams3607]

I keep returning to this. Such an outstanding conversation.

[@Josh-mr9dw]

bruhhhh john mayer destroys jerry within the first 5 min LOL. Music is all familiarity, Fashion is pushing boundaries. How tf u think jerry got mans in 2016 to wear basketball shorts over pants lmao😂

[@edwardodejesus1343]

Forreal I was thinkin same thing! 🤣

[@cheesekimbap2996]

Both of those art forms cycle thru trends tho. theres new revolutionary stuff and sometimes they look back to the past. the things they said can be applied to both music and fashion.

[@jacknick7582]

why's everyone makin this a competition tho

[@jacknick7582]

i don't necessarily agree with that anyways. i think they're both built on familiarity, but john's thinking about the "fashion" world in particular, which is akin to considering merely the jazz music fans

[@josephmorales652]

@@cheesekimbap2996 totally agree. Radioheads ok computer was a super revolutionary rock album that brought in all types of new production that people hadn't heard before. A an awesome group like tame Impala, although they do innovate in their own right, it's in a way that pays respect of music from previous decades

[@kylemazur1447]

I watched this when it first came out thinking exactly what John had to say about Kanye, and now we see such a transformation in Kanye that John was saying everyone needed. Kanye is now on that journey of stepping out of his “God-like status” and into his “man” status. Mind blowing.

[@DanielBoa7]

Incredible conversation, hope the Complex audience can actually appreciate the depth of what was talked about in this video

[@Oyashio202]

Artists: We want your money even when we make garbage is the same as pieces that break current expectations don't sell. Genius and stupidity walk on the same line. It's pretty much up to the people to decide which part of that line it lands in.

[@KB-dd7xq]

Man John has an amazing soul. That sobriety bit was too real. What an open mind, truly awake to everything that’s around him and around us too. That boredom then rising lines... opens your eyes. This was a great interview. Jerry too, powerful mind. Two legends

[@uniboldsilver]

John Mayer looks really cool in those FOG's

[@lilb252]

What about Jerry?

[@uniboldsilver]

@@lilb252jerry always looks cool man

[@marcodupa]

shout out to La Puma, underrated skill in keeping the conversation going and not just asking question after question

[@SnoopiesPoopies]

John Mayer’s kitchen analogy was awesome. He’s too cool...

[@Ion715]

I appreciate this so much ! Thank you for this great and amazing interview

[@emmanuelsilvera8032]

Man the instrumentals for this interview were so 🔥 🔥

[@daxpaxmax]

Can you name them ?

[@emmanuelsilvera8032]

@@daxpaxmax no, I was hoping someone else knew and would tell me lol

[@legoEndeavourStudios]

Looking for the names too lmao

[@naumpasca2374]

Two years later and this is still the best piece of media Complex has put out