Compose Driving Orchestral Bass

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[@musicforhumans7095]

Bass has a potentially complex role, being rhythmically, melodically and harmonically relevant, but with the ability to overpower bc of the nature of lower frequencies, so precision is definitely needed. I think the tools you covered here are a good primer into those different roles/uses…good stuff 🙌🏼🔥

[@petupullo5160]

Ex-TREMELY useful for me! Thank you so much for all of the tips you give us producers and composers! You are so talented, and I am so grateful for what you are doing. Thank you from the bottom of my heart ❤️

[@ratnacomposerstudio]

Loved the orchestral version towards end!

[@Ruiluth]

There's some great examples of cool bass lines in old hymnals. People did some really great work when all they had to work with was singers.

[@algyleft3672]

you should really consider making an orchestration course, man. my orchestration game have been improving really well thanks to your free contents. imagine what full structured course can do!

[@ZachHeyde]

I've got some things on the way 😁

[@gianni1646]

Very nice Zach! Thanks for the tutorial. Gianni❤

[@maplefoxx6285]

2nd inversion into a maj or min 3rd sound real nice too, I am learning so much piano rn, you play very nicely! I love Orange Tree Samples Django jazz guitar so much, great company!

[@Hamza_Aydin]

Thank you so much, Zach! I learned so much in just 11 minutes!

[@ArnoudCarel]

Amazing how instructive and useful your tutorials are. This is exactly what I needed as a starting point for when I try to flesh out my own crude, monophonic compositions.

[@ChrisMuellerMusic]

Pricesless and exactly what I needed right now :) Thanks Zach!

[@arthurchanson5345]

Excellent and useful as usual! Thank Zach!

[@msoundz]

Your content is always enlightening and inspirational. I learnt a lot from this episode. Thank you for sharing!

[@Strafuzz]

I want you to know I make electronic dance music but all your tutorials help me immensely. Thank you. 👍🏾

[@davidpreeceorchestra80]

Great topic to make a video on! I think the inversion part was explained to fast, i had to watch it twice and didnt really understand but watching you record the bass at the end of the video was very good and i learnt so much!! 🌟

[@musicproducer10]

Love your videos! thanks a lot

[@halivudestevez2]

thank you for this Masterclass :)

[@andy-simmons]

Good stuff dude!

[@sammyguellfilmmusic]

Cool piece, very fun :) I really like your channel !

[@chordalharmony]

I’m a BASS PLAYER and I still end up doing this sometimes, it’s just….yeah

[@lp2618]

Thanks for making this video! I need to use offsets more often. Do you think this is applicable for all styles even if it's a quiet atmospheric piece?

[@GeorgeStreicherMusic]

Bravo!

[@yvanroustan4426]

it remind me the score "How to Train your Dragon" - Great topic thank you !✌

[@thecaptain0003]

Your example sounds like "For The Dancing And The Dreaming" from httyd2!

[@Gardener7]

As a self taught composer, I found this very helpful. Perhaps someone can confirm my observations that most of these techniques would only be useful for faster, energetic songs. If I'm writing slow songs (like Time, by Zimmer), just simple long notes would be best, am I right?

[@snarf1504]

Depends on the piece. Listen to Mahler's Adagietto or Barber's Adagio for Strings for examples 'slow' music with counterlines (not just in the bass). Time is just 8 bars of looped block chords lol

[@musik9089]

Nice Video! What i am still confused about is, isnt my harmony lost when i wrote countermelodies like this in the bass line ?

[@PianoCool-qb5ff]

What software do you use?

[@migats2160]

One thing is that this technique might not work on a dedicated sub. Because if you do, it will add too much movement to the sub which can clutter your mix. So be careful when you are using a dedicated sub

[@MrMikomi]

What you are saying makes no sense.

[@ARZiehm]

@@MrMikomi Sub bass. A bass instrument that is often below 100hz, often sitting at 80hz. Also a frequency range many instruments can’t hit and need help from electronics.

[@hammpy3012]

quick question.. what is the thing you put in your mouth. when your playing?

[@Phloxx1]

Is the video of you orchestrating it on your patreon?

[@ZachHeyde]

Yep!

[@Endiv_3]

Honestly in my opinion, the riff at the end feels a little unnecessary. I think it would’ve been fine without it.

[@itznoxy7193]

Hey Zach I appreciate your videos but could you please use a proper score for your visuals? The piano roll thing is hard to read and comes off a bit amateur.

[@musicforhumans7095]

He’s using the piano roll in program he uses to professionally score…how is that amateur?

[@f0xshadow521]

If you're at all familiar with modern DAW workflows, the piano roll (ubiquitous in modern music and scoring) is very easy to read, far more than any orchestral score at a glance. This comment comes off as very dated or out-of-touch

[@Cue-Ball.]

He can visualise the piece however he wants. This is his workflow he uses to make a living and professionally score so who are you to call him amateur when he's making a good living off of it and having fun? I find it way more amateur to judge a composer based on their workflow. You're focusing on the wrong things. The important part is the finished product. Your comment feels pretty out of touch with our modern reality. The usage of the term "proper score" also feels very elitist.

[@itznoxy7193]

You all seem to be missing the point completely. I am talking about for the purposes of creating a demonstration. I know what a piano roll is and its role in a DAW. What I am talking about is when you are trying to convey information in a educational sense. It's not going to be the same way you sequence MIDI which is what a piano roll is designed for. It is a very low-res medium for conveying true musical concepts to another human being and lacks a huge amount of context and detail. As for the guy who said it is easier to read than a score, that is just your opinion and speaks more to your familiarity (or lack thereof) with rudimentary musical notation than anything. I don't mean this in a mean way but if you want to actually get good at this you need to learn to read a score. You can't put a piano roll in front of real players and expect them not to laugh you off the sound stage. P.S. As a rule of thumb: don't meet others with open hostility who have done nothing but suggested something that might be to your benefit.

[@Midrule]

@@itznoxy7193 most people don’t recognize sheet music nearly as much as this. Doesn’t mean it’s useless or anything obviously but this is the new way that people learn. It’s just a preference thing