Composite Decking Install

#build #howto #deck #install #compositedecking #construction #contractor #stepbystep #hausplans
‪@hausplans‬

[@alexayache8556]

I forget who but I seen some guys use a router on a stick. It worked like a charm.

[@erikfrankfurt4650]

Wish I had a steady hand like you. If I don't utilize that straight edge bar, then my cuts come out pretty frickin wonky. Ask my old man about his stairs.

[@kennydempsey2079]

Its gravity, my old boss said it depends on how your dick curves.

[@teeks8951]

*speed square

[@erikfrankfurt4650]

​@@teeks8951 Yep. I get ya, but I was thinking more about the second cut.

[@samanderson7745]

@@erikfrankfurt4650 Just got slow and keep your center of balance close to the body. When making long cuts like that don't let your arms get too far away from the body. Again, slow and steady and you'll be fine!

[@ultrasmagowski2877]

Can you use same decking as siding ?

[@garrettlanders4027]

Phenomenal craftsmanship. No tape on the top of those joists is going to create water trapped between the composite and tops of the joists though and rot them out even though they’re pressure treated. Just replaced 3 on my uncle’s deck because of that.

[@hausplans]

This entire deck is covered by a roof

[@scottburnett3328]

Put a splitter in the middle so your not making seams on your deck boards

[@hausplans]

Normally we would- deck was 22’ long so would have had waste in decking and extra expense adding joist in middle. We were on a tight budget.

[@xAudioBeatzz]

Middle borders are ugly and joints are uglier. Learn how to run your joists the other way and 1 piece the whole deck

[@wyattc9984]

Decking should never be staggered between only two joists, the decking is what gives the deck shear, so without it lapping at least three different joists (ideally more) it will pivot on those two joists and twist out of square. If it twists too much it can even cause the deck to collapse.

[@4o4err0r.]

Wrong

[@bbdaman]

In the words of old greg. Yes sir thank you sir.

[@kevindowner766]

Not a track saw in sight. Great work.

[@theptownpunk]

Its that attention to detail's that show though... Good job.

[@hausplans]

Thanks

[@krzysztofszewczyk7806]

Piękna robota ale z takim sprzętem to się niema co dziwić 👏👏👏🏅🏅🏅

[@cjm3508]

I’m just wondering where the tape is going over the floor joist before the composite decking goes on. Without the tape on their overtime it will rot.

[@hausplans]

This deck is completely covered by a roof. Also, I’m not sure I buy into the tape over the joists. It’s pressure treated lumber that’s rated to make contact with the ground. I have replaced decking on decks that are over 30 years old with no tape and no roof above and the joists were still perfect. We actually put the new decking right back on them. This may vary depending on the climate, but we just don’t seem to have a problem with ducks choice rotting in our area.

[@noaiaemauri6808]

Yes!!!! a dewalt in this milwaukee video.. tooooo good!

[@hausplans]

😂

[@anthonyaucoin7934]

Very nice job by the way 👍💪

[@hausplans]

Thanks man

[@ralph5450]

Very nice. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@hausplans]

Thanks!

[@cbdoil4082]

Tyvek puts the whole project in question.

[@cmvkizer]

I like the color .

[@hausplans]

Thanks

[@1011gesse]

Top, esse tipo de trabalho, parabéns, forte abraço...

[@hausplans]

Thanks!

[@WhateverItsanOpinion]

the problem with composite decking.. They only look good for about 4 years then they start to get faded is faded and washed out.. In 10 years they look terrible. I'd rather have Redwood Put water seal on it every other year the other year it always looks better than composite

[@hausplans]

The newer composite decking is far superior to the first composite decking products that came out.

[@looselipssinkships6543]

It also gets ULTRA hot

[@WhateverItsanOpinion]

@@looselipssinkships6543 I agree I went over to a person's house and they had dark Gray look pretty but everybody could not walk barefoot.. It really Burns your feet

[@mowman7777]

They can be painted.

[@ebabdbgbbbebbluesman6115]

@@mowman7777 wood can be painted too I understand the allure of composite, but just go wood. You are gonna appreciate the savings in cost today. Keep up with the very inexpensive maintenance. When wood starts to rot, it will be easy to replace the bad ones, we will get you 30 years out of a deck Conposite is good too, but the hidden fastener clips do not hold the material down as well, and thus do not provide the same ridgity to the structure. Composite with its flexible nature is unforgiving of the crowns in the joists.

[@banjothehammer6708]

I almost shit when I saw that you didn’t have a Milwaukee tape to go with the rest of your Milwaukee tools

[@leigh6113]

Common Banjo, we all know the fatmax is the ducks nuts

[@banjothehammer6708]

@@leigh6113 you know I always got that mahfuckin thang on me

[@hausplans]

😂

[@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter]

Milwaukee tapes are terrible. I've owned many of them from $15-35 and they're some of the worst I've ever owned. Project Farm does a great head to head that reveals just how poorly they're made.

[@snarecat3441]

Ha!

[@David-wu7jj]

GreT job nicely done

[@donaldjohnson5073]

Unless the homeowner pacifically requested it and you did not lay that plastic correctly you don't put the joint in the same spot every other joint you must stagger it number one it looks better number two it's more stronger but like I said unless the homeowner specifically requested it then that's what a rookie job looks like guys

[@wyattc9984]

The guy's the homeowner. He doesn't know any better.

[@Rob-fd6si]

The fasteners hold surprisingly well.

[@hausplans]

They do

[@mikepotter4141]

I didn't see an inside lip for the border piece

[@b3arwithm3]

Would face screws not prevent the board from expansion and shrinkage of the boards?

[@electricalron]

Team Red hell yeah!!!

[@MillCityJam]

Nice!! Do you like that multi-tool?

[@hausplans]

I love it

[@barrymarson9658]

Trex or any composition decking material makes any deck looks better.

[@frostycools1315]

substandard craftsmanship

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

Why you say it’s substandard?

[@frostycools1315]

@@HomeGrownPyro1 no tape on the joist, no flashing where the deck meets the building, ledger board not bolted, rim board supports in the wrong place , improper spacing at the posts, man the list is long and its only a 60 second video

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

@@frostycools1315 oh ok I see now, good eye.👍

[@frostycools1315]

@@HomeGrownPyro1 spacing on them joist look to far apart as well should be 12 inch o/c or less

[@rajni17]

Nice job, what color composite is it? I have installed maritime gray and looking for an darker to blend with it for edges.

[@hausplans]

Timber Tech, silver maple

[@StormmyStormmy]

Milwaukee tools are supreme.

[@hausplans]

👍👍

[@user-db2zi8mh9h]

Hate to be that guy but first thing I thought..... Stagger your joints looks better then the H pattern with all them seams in a line

[@barrymarson9658]

Why did you not start at the house, add flashing and the insulation tape?

[@hausplans]

It’s always best to start at the edge of the deck and work your way back towards the house. That way if you have a small rip it’s not the first thing you see at the outer edge

[@noassociation85]

Come summer you can't even walk on the coke bottles

[@hausplans]

Fortunately this deck is shaded on north side of house

[@noassociation85]

@@hausplans noice! Im in syd,Aus and the customers that choose this here tend to complain of how hot it gets,our summer temps reach 40 degrees Celsius

[@DS-yu4kr]

Composite deck material gets as hot as asphalt if it’s in the sun. It will burn bare feet.

[@hausplans]

This is a covered porch on the north side of the house. I’m sure a southern facing composite deck would get hot.

[@reginalb124]

Bought a house in a very hot climate that has composite decking. Can confirm, this person has NO CLUE what they are talking about. Doesn't get crazy hot.

[@stephenstrader1577]

Wear shoes? Better than restaining decking every two years

[@DS-yu4kr]

@@stephenstrader1577 is also raises the temperature of the surrounding deck by reflecting heat 10° or more on a hot day

[@babushkaboi7288]

So would a regular deck with dark paint… lol

[@stevejames9167]

Doing my first right now. What fasteners do I use for the pitcher frame?

[@hausplans]

We just screwed right through the top of the picture frame boards with color matched deck screws

[@stevejames9167]

@@hausplans I messed up and let the client order materials. All one color fasteners with the clip. I tried to use just the screw on a sample and looks like shit. I guess I'll head to HD and try to find a match. Thx for your quick answer.

[@Donuts_random_stuff]

My favourite kind of asmr 😂

[@shaungriffin4617]

Why would you use hidden fasteners then screw into the boarder board ?

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

Because there isn’t a joist on the other side to screw a clip into would be my guess

[@kyleaustin4034]

Looks amazing! How much for all the materials?

[@hausplans]

Thanks! $2,500 for the composite decking and PVC not including labor

[@kyleaustin4034]

@@hausplans Thank you for the response. I have to redo my large deck before selling. I bought and old house to remodel and sell last year. 17 projects later... Still not on the market. Mistakes were made. Learning was accomplished 😂

[@WhiteWolff00]

Good job!

[@hausplans]

Thanks!

[@Freshviewconstruction]

A track saw would be nice + always pre cut last boards where saw doesn't reach

[@Mark-gt9yv]

People are too reliant on that crap. Skilled carpenters can free hand that no problem. Why pre cut the last board when you can cut it 100% accurately to the rest after the fact?

[@michaelscott8768]

I feel like if you were going to picture frame the deck, you should have put a two boards in so you didn’t have all those field seams.

[@hausplans]

We picture framed to have nosing at steps. Deck was 22’ long so we would have wasted decking if we put boards in the middle -we were on a tight budget.

[@michaelscott8768]

@@hausplans I understand that. I hate clients budget dictating how I do my work but it happens a lot these days.

[@nursehenriques9543]

Beautiful 😍

[@ebabdbgbbbebbluesman6115]

Very clean! What about the railing though?

[@hausplans]

Check out my how to build deck steps Part 3 video, it shows the railing

[@ebabdbgbbbebbluesman6115]

@@hausplans i checked it out, but if you good you should show people how to get railing posts strong. I see many jobs where they get it wrong, and the customer complains about wobly railing. I have methods that work well, but have no idea how to make a video for youtube.

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

@@ebabdbgbbbebbluesman6115it’s real simple. You already have a KZbin account. So all you have to do is record a video on your phone and then click the + symbol at the bottom of your KZbin feed and click upload video. Select the video you want from your phone and click upload.

[@Billybob-go8hn]

I bet half your wardrobe is Milwaukee!

[@hausplans]

I don’t own any Milwaukee clothes but I would like one of their heated jackets for next winter

[@Billybob-go8hn]

@@hausplans That’s very relieving to hear, thought you were to far gone.

[@user-ds1on2fx2m]

What do you do with the exposed screw heads on the outer perimeter?

[@hausplans]

You can get matching plugs to cover them with

[@StrangeTimesNear]

Did that get mitered behind the post?

[@6453bianchi]

People still butt ends of the decking together like that?

[@pistolpete528]

Nice little simple 30,000$ deck. 😮

[@DSkimRS]

good job

[@hausplans]

Thanks

[@tonybailey6831]

How do you fasten down that parameter piece?

[@hausplans]

We just face screwed it from the top and then covered the screws with plugs

[@carolyoung3444]

Could you provide us with total material cost for a project this size? Thanks

[@hausplans]

Deck was 10x22. Cost for decking and hidden fasteners (materials only) was about $2500 earlier this year. We were on a budget and used an in-stock TimberTech decking that our local lumber company carried. It has a grooved bottom (more economical).

[@ml219]

would it be easier to start from the house ?

[@hausplans]

No, it’s always better to start of the outside and work back towards the house. The reason is if you end up with a ripped piece it looks better to have it back at the house rather than the first board you see on the outside of the deck

[@richardprice6491]

Nice job

[@hausplans]

Thanks!

[@b3arwithm3]

Is it easier to put the picture frame border last?

[@hausplans]

I like to do it first but others may say it’s easier to do it last

[@DSB831]

Let’s hear it for the boy!

[@grannydeen1586]

Let's hear it for the boy. Let's give the boy a hand.

[@hausplans]

😂👍

[@bigbaby3435]

Nice work

[@hausplans]

Thanks

[@Tyler-xe5qi]

Anyone else notice the Dewalt blade on the Milwaukee saw it is it just me 😂😂😂

[@chuckgranger9777]

With that hidden fastener system, it’s only a matter of time until that decking starts sliding and opening gaps all over the place.

[@TwiceAsNiceBeats]

No ledger protection??

[@michaeljiang7405]

Fail deck installation, very soon the rim joist at house will rotted. The contractor didn’t use deck spacer on ledgers board, very soon the water will trap and will cause a longer term water damage.

[@snowsurfr]

Yep. Where I’m located, this probably wouldn’t pass inspection without a ledger air gap. I prefer Off The Wall deck spacers over other brands. Plus you can retrofit them in during situations like this. Nice clean work otherwise. 👍

[@FarmerJimbob]

Dats money dude

[@hausplans]

👍🏻

[@frankthetank8749]

That's exactly what i was thinking..lol.. Thay must have ben out of Diablo blades .. Right bro. Right " 😳☺☺☺

[@nikolasperry9282]

Milwaukee with a Dewalt blade yes ma'am

[@hausplans]

😂

[@dandrzymalla3830]

Ha dewalt blade when everything else even his underwater is Milwaukee lol

[@hausplans]

Go to mix it up

[@mattfoster5934]

We have a Milwaukee fanboy🤣🤣🤣

[@jamesstocker1735]

I like free hand cut thats how men do it

[@lauriemacquanan2141]

I saw a video where the carpenter put sheathing tape on the top of the floor joist to help prevent rottttttt.

[@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter]

They do sell specific joist tape in addition to the various flashing tapes(zip tape, vycor, blue skin, 3M, etc) but it's all fairly expensive so an economical route to take is to buy a roll of tar paper and use a sawzall to cut a few ~2" rolls off of the 36" roll and staple it on to the joists. This works well because you can also cut ~3-5" sections to cap off your double rim joists and triple girders. There's a give-take though because joist tape is the proper width and sticky so while you're spending a little extra, you're also saving the labor of cutting and stapling. There's a debate as to use joist tape or not when installing wooden decking because it's said that the moisture transfer between the joists and the decking is better than trapping the moisture solely between the tape and the decking itself, which can lead to cupping. In this case, he's using a scalloped decking, which is cheaper, but also allows for more air flow and the joists will inherently remain dryer because they'll dry out quicker after rain or snow. I love construction, but I refer to it as an industry of endless variables, especially when remodeling. Alright I'm done lol

[@bjohnston3659]

So they attach with clips?

[@hausplans]

Yes there’s a groove on the edge of the boards and they are held in place with special clips

[@bjohnston3659]

@@hausplans Thanks, fairly straight forward to install or tricky?

[@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter]

@@bjohnston3659 Extremely straight forward. Very pragmatic. Much faster than screws and plugs as well. I can set a 16x16 deck in a few hours using these clips. Screws and plugs would take a day and a half-2 days. The plugs would take 5 hours alone.

[@miguel025ful]

Dónde encuentro esos clip que la sujetan

[@hausplans]

Those clips are made by timber tech

[@georgesmith3616]

Picture frame deck is best.

[@hausplans]

💯

[@SCS10000]

The Milwaukee Man was there ... Is he a Marvel or DC figure??

[@hausplans]

We like the sound of that “Milwaukee Man”👍🏻

[@becmoran9119]

Hi what is the outer board called? My gf deck dosen't have one and I want to ask for it when they do mine

[@hausplans]

We just typically say that’s picture framing the deck

[@fifakingpinnaples2392]

Milwaukee everything but dewult tape an saw an silver square?

[@JoshT707]

What color is this by timbertech?

[@hausplans]

Silver Maple

[@eladiorosas1730]

Muy bonito tu trabajo lo malo es q tienes un inspector muy malo para q te enseñara a poner flaxin

[@PeakyBlinder]

I need that blower

[@hausplans]

I use it all the time

[@PeakyBlinder]

@@hausplans I have a petrol blower for clearing the roofs before felting but it's big and heavy and no good for small jobs, I will be getting one for sure.

[@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter]

Great blower. You can 'hack' the price when home Depot offers the deal where you buy the blower for $179 and get the battery 'free.' Return the battery for $85 and the blower is only $95. Or just order it for $120 on ebay and avoid waiting for the deal and the hassle of buying and returning.

[@soild_snake4947]

Is this a Milwaukee commercial

[@hausplans]

It is not

[@andrewdavis5404]

darker the decking hotter on feet

[@hausplans]

Yup

[@Apathymiller]

Well done

[@juliorios4810]

Beautiful

[@hausplans]

Thanks

[@SP-nx8qx]

Say goodbye to your saw blades by the way

[@hausplans]

Good bye saw blade

[@richardfrettsome1581]

What blade do you use, soon blunt mine

[@saltyminion9212]

A Milwaukee commercial ?

[@hausplans]

I’m not sponsored, but I really do like their tools

[@harley120484]

No joist protection?

[@hausplans]

No one does that in our area. I replaced the decking on decks that were over 30 years old and a joists were still perfect

[@manuelitoservantes3145]

Cutting the board that is against the building to its correct length first, you wont have to use a multi tool after the fact.

[@Jamez_Predictedit]

Was the 25' Milwaukee tape measure not good enough?

[@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter]

I've had multiple tiers of Milwaukee tapes from $15-35 and they were all terrible. Project Farm does a great head to head and Milwaukee was particularly awful in the durability tests. Lost almost all of its paint whereas many others stood up well. People need to be careful with their blind loyalty to the red brand, the company takes advantage of that and puts out some very sub par tools. I've had some significant issues with some of my M18 and M12 tools in only a matter of months whereas I've had some DeWalt and Makita tools pushing a decade old that operate as expected and just won't quit.

[@hausplans]

I absolutely love the Stanley Fat Max tapes. It’s hard for me to use anything else

[@seansimpson1823]

Not suppose to butt composite decking as it will shrink and create a gap at the seams! Looks good now till everything shrinks...

[@tylerholthouse9359]

It will shrink but it will also swell. if you follow the manufacturer installation instructions you can absolutely do this. Lots of these type products require install at an ideal temperature out of direct sunlight, and will sometimes spec a gap size that correlates to a temperature range.

[@karldoyle5838]

When u pull ur chalk line that hi, ur line created is so far from straight.

[@jinx8624]

black and decker

[@scottavery9108]

Does miklwakee not make circular saw blades? #teamDewalt

[@hausplans]

I like to mix and match 😂

[@karlwale7162]

What about the plastic shavings getting into the environment?

[@hackcarpenter5671]

your right. You should probably go clean that up. We won't have time considering we're off to do another deck.

[@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter]

Small potatoes among other things. If you'd like to boycott environmentally unfriendly practices then I guess you're not allowed to wear clothing, shoes, purchase electronics, vehicles, or eat meat. Don't forget to walk everywhere. I guess the only logical route for you is to join a self sustaining vegetarian nudist commune. Let us know how that works out.

[@HomeGrownPyro1]

Well considering a lot of these composite products are made out of recycled plastics, I would say it cancels the those shavings out

[@tim8172]

If only you would have put flashing tape on the joists

[@hausplans]

No one does in our area, recently took a look at a deck in our area that is 35 years old and every pressure treated joist is still in perfect condition with no tape

[@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter]

It's nowhere near as necessary with scalloped decking. There's a lot of air flow and they will dry out very quickly. Hardly any trapped moisture.

[@bobwhelk2117]

I love the ledger flashing- not! Also that’s an amazing cross support between the 2 posts- not!

[@idlsjay]

Milwaukee saw with a DeWalt blade 😂😂

[@hausplans]

😂

[@michaelshifflette]

No drip edge?

[@hausplans]

It’s under a covered porch

[@alexhamon9261]

I wouldn't love cutting this stuff making millions of pieces of microplastic every single job but I guess PT or tropical hardwoods have their own downsides that are less simple to remedy with a vacuum.

[@mspashko]

No flashing?

[@hausplans]

It’s under a covered porch roof

[@hillybill6092]

Deck looks good but no L flashing up against the house. Need to step up your game with high quality details that make a big difference

[@hackcarpenter5671]

Speaking of details. Itsz flashing. And the deck is under a roof. This guy would slap you in a decking contest

[@hillybill6092]

@@hackcarpenter5671 I can already tell your a hack at best. It’s L flashing and it doesn’t matter it’s has open ends. His work is clean but it needs to be flashed

[@hillybill6092]

@@hackcarpenter5671 Look at the letters L and Z two different types of flashing. L for decks roofs etc. Z for windows trim boards etc. Have any other stupid comments or questions ?

[@hackcarpenter5671]

@@hillybill6092 actually it goes down the wall across the ledger and about a quarter inch down the ledger. Because it's a z. and there is a round house in lake Geneva Wisconsin with a beam system and trim package that would make you beg me to bless you with some of this game. and that's not the only multi million dollar home I've framed then trimmed. So next time you call sombody a hack make sure you know what you're talking about.

[@hackcarpenter5671]

@@hillybill6092 also the L flashing your referring to on a roof is actually referred to as roof to wall. And it's not a L either. It has a bend on the front side so the ice and snow doesn't rip it off. I swear you guys remodel your mom's bathroom one time and all the sudden you're experts.

[@gavhoffdrums3129]

I would have picture framed it to avoid those butt joints

[@williamshivers1995]

All that nice work, and yet no joist tape!😢

[@hausplans]

It’s under a roof

[@williamshivers1995]

@@hausplans nice