I could not even beat the funeral director with a first comment ADE? That new block of cast material cleaned up really nice. .003 you got a good build going on if we understand you right. Thank you for the share, Lance & Patrick.
@TheFuneralDirector5 жыл бұрын
I'm usually the last to be fair
@ActiveAtom5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFuneralDirector LOL thought this was funny for today, thank you.
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
Cheers guys , yes very good made me laugh , Ade.
@woodscreekworkshop99395 жыл бұрын
Coming along nicely! Impressive how resourceful you are! 💪🏼
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Yuchol. resourcefulness is a side effect of having no resources to work with . any method that works is a good method. not the best method but a method none the less. , i guess i never make it easy for myself , Cheers Ade.
@EverettsWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, I was about to do the same thing for a surface plate, but then the local import tool store had the sale they did. If it's accurate enough for your purposes, it works. It is a surface plate to your needed accuracy, and you know its limitations, so it's all good! As for the compound removal, I'm considering doing something similar to what you're doing for my lathe as well - even though it's a 12x36, it's not the most rigid and for grooving/parting it's a nightmare at times. Looking forward to part 2.
@glennfelpel97855 жыл бұрын
Very well done and a good idea too. Thank you for the video
@frogdavw96995 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it was informitive and entertaining. Please keep them coming
@markhobster81135 жыл бұрын
great project and something I need to do aswel for my old Myford MF74 restoration which has a primitive ML7 style Top slide, a few things, nab some transfer punches I think I got mine from arceurotrade, they are a god send and are perfect fits through reamed holes in 0.5mm increments, great help for when I needed to spot for drilling holes in backplates when I bought some through the front mounted chucks. also I wouldn't worry about slots for oil to run along under the slide, my MF74 has them between the carriage and bed ways, they collect microscopic particles of crud and trap them, when the carriage moves back and forth it acts like a slight lap, same goes for phosphor bronze bearings when I replaced them the channels inside the bearings which were designed to flush oil all around the spindle were full with compacted crud which the oil is supposed to flush out. leaving flat with no slots will allow the slide to glide and any crud will be forced out from the back or front :) if yoy do make some channels make sure the edges are not sharp but stoned with a slight bevel so they are a softer edge instead of a clean sharp angle ( I dont mean a burr Im meaning the transition edge between flat slide face and the wall of a slot )
@CraigsWorkshop5 жыл бұрын
Looks great Ade, I think it will be a good upgrade. You have more guts than me drilling into the slideways! :)
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
Not for the faint hearted i agree, Cheers Ade.
@dougbriggs67975 жыл бұрын
I have several 'ersatz' plates that are more than accurate enough (0.002") for everyday use. Love your projects Ade.
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
it is less than 0.001"" for most of the plate , yes fine for everyday use as you say . Cheers Ade.
@edgeeffect5 жыл бұрын
I love your "shall we call it a" surface plate... I've been thinking of doing something on very similar lines myself.
@griplove5 жыл бұрын
Looking good! I’ve been eagerly awaiting this project.
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
so have i , not finished yet but i am looking forward to trying it out , cheers .Ade.
@barrymcdowell48525 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video ADE, watching closely Barry Australia.
@MrWesty5005 жыл бұрын
nice vid Ade. Can't wait for #2
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
Part 2 just uploaded. Cheers Ade.
@shaneburns64435 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ade - great informational video, and a great project
@GeoffTV24 жыл бұрын
I believe that all lathe cross slides are setup to be almost but not quite square to the spindle axis. Specifically they are setup to produce a very slight concave cut when facing and that this is the reason your block did not come out flat after facing on the lathe. I think that this is more pronounced on cheaper lathes and hard to measure on high end lathes. This is because a slight convex cut is highly undesirable so manufacturers err towards the concave side of square.
@beachcomberbob34965 жыл бұрын
My 'surface plate' is a section of marble kitchen worktop. It's thick enough to be stable, and is plenty flat enough for general work. Not everyone can justify thousands for a real one.
@robvanbeusekom5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the video Ade 👍🏻
@tramtoby5 жыл бұрын
My surface plate is an off cut from a kitchen granite worktop supplier, it was the bit they cut out for the sink, and it was free.
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
that was a lucky find , i will have to check out my local kitchen fitters , cheers Ade.
@haroldpearson60255 жыл бұрын
12mm thick plate glass set in a wooden frame also makes a good surface plate.
@hardcase16595 жыл бұрын
@@haroldpearson6025 Unless ground, i wouldn't call a glass plate flat mainly because of the way it's "cast" on top of molten zinc which could have ripples on the surface.
@haroldpearson60255 жыл бұрын
@@hardcase1659 O dear, and I've neen using one for 20 years!
@hardcase16595 жыл бұрын
@@haroldpearson6025 Good for you i guess? I see you like to live dangerously.
@tinker53495 жыл бұрын
Hi nice video, Good for you and your inspection plate because I also use the same plate and it is accurate enough for me to :)
@pgs85975 жыл бұрын
G’day Ade. Good project, something that’s been on my mind as you are correct it is the weakest part of the setup, it’s like the machine is too big for it’s tool post. I am wondering won’t you want to change the tool angle to the job at times to say cut a chamfer or do an undercut in a corner, I know I rotate the tool at times. A query from an inexperienced hobbyist, cheers. Peter
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
I am going to make a lot more tool holders to compensate. it is more about the rigidity on production work and the repeatability when changing tools . Cheers Ade.
@kimber19584 жыл бұрын
Very nicely
@chrishouse6924 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ade, thanks for your time. Just bought a lathe and would like to follow you on this project. Just wondering, how did you determine the o/a height of block? Would the tool post sit on the riser as at the same height as if on original cross slide?
@ade63dug Жыл бұрын
yes . that is the height i went with . Cheers Ade.
@samrodian9195 жыл бұрын
A very interesting project Ade, one thought though, as far as rigidity goes, do you think that in addition to the four six mil bolts would you not think that three or four six or seven mil silver steel register pins would greatly add to the strength against twisting the block round? You could drill and ream from under the cross slide, and loctite the pins in place on the block, thus giving you full registration of the block prior to the hold down bolts. Just a thought lol. A question for you, where do you get your cast iron pieces from? I am interested to know because I may well copy your idea and do the same on my Warco 300. Look forward to the rest of the series!
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
That would certainly be worthwhile on a larger more powerful machine . My little lathe has nowhere near enough power to even think about overcoming the clamping force of the 4 M6 allen bolts. on a larger lathe i may even think about tapered dowel pins with extractor threads . Cheers Ade.
@premierd89885 жыл бұрын
Surely you should have machined a shallow boss on the bottom to fit the recess on the cross slide .. then sit it in before you drill the holes ...would have centered it up perfectly ....
@incubatork5 жыл бұрын
If you leave a square shoulder you will not be able to turn it to adjust the angle of the cutter like for say getting close into the chuck like you do at times.
@jsteifel4 жыл бұрын
when you sand a surface you will always have a problem at the corners if the sand paper is not adhered to the plate. The paper is going to wear the corners first since the paper is lifting off the plate. if you adhere the sand paper with surface tension using water or a spray adhesive you would have a better chance of a more accurate test.
@markhobster81135 жыл бұрын
careful using transfer puches on thin castings though as you use them like extended straight shank center punches, just a light tap will do
@brucewilliams62924 жыл бұрын
Hi Ade, I am building my block following your guidelines; thank you. When drilling deep holes, what is the best way to keep them from wandering? What causes a hole to wonder? Too much pressure? Thank you for your videos!
@chrishouse6924 Жыл бұрын
Top slide I should have said!
@TheFuneralDirector5 жыл бұрын
Looking good .. where did you get the cast iron block from Ade ? ... Regards Andy
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
It was from College Metals online , was £15 plus carriage , cheers Ade.
@samrodian9195 жыл бұрын
frank brown, you are lucky to have metal stockholder who deal in cast iron, locally. I wouldn't think any of our local steel stockholders have cast in stock here in the East London/Essex area, we are lucky if we find some who actually stock bright drawn mild steel let alone cast! ( if any one knows different please advise me lol)
@samrodian9195 жыл бұрын
frank brown in no way was I criticising you mate, just saying you were lucky having a place where they let you get into a skip! Where are you based?
@TheFuneralDirector5 жыл бұрын
@@ade63dug Great thanks for that I've been looking for a chunk of cast iron for a bit and they're only abort 6 miles up the road from me, although they're a web based company their site says you can collect with some notice ... Cheers Ade
@Lesfac5 жыл бұрын
Will what you are doing stop you being able to turn the tool holder? Thats something we all do to change the angle of the tool to get at different features of the workpiece?
@waynedigby80085 жыл бұрын
Great work Ade, love the videos. one question though, how do you plan to accurately square a parting tool to the work piece if the block is held in place by a recess? Look forward to part 2!
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
The toolpost is square by design and a slight amount can be set by the parting tool in it's tool holder . after initial setting up it will always be square. happy days. cheers Ade.
@christopherlease5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Ade! I've been thinking of doing this myself. Will your design restrict you from rotating the tool post? I move mine all the time to change the angles for cutting and facing. What company do you use to supply the cast iron stock?
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
Yes it will completely stop any rotation , i do plan on making many more tool holders to help with this issue allowing me to have any tool i may need set up . the cast is from college metals online. This chunk was £15 plus delivery , Cheers Ade.
@markowen71645 жыл бұрын
Get them oil groovs when you get your mill. M
@markowen71645 жыл бұрын
Hi Ade. Just wondering why you want it squer? I made mine round
@Festivejelly Жыл бұрын
Where do you get your materials from ADE? Im in the UK and know of a few suppliers but id like to be able to get some cheap offcuts as stock.
@ade63dug Жыл бұрын
I use. College metals . Aluminium Droitwitch and ebay searches mostly. Silver steel from Zoro is good also . Cheers Ade.
@Petrolhead66 Жыл бұрын
Wondering why you used cast iron as opposed to mild steel?
@ade63dug Жыл бұрын
All the other parts of the saddle are cast so I just went with it. It is really durable and stable as well although stinking stuff to machine. Cheers Ade
@watahyahknow3 жыл бұрын
how mush did you pay for the block of steel , trying to find a pricing somewhere but all the companies that sell pieces in that size online do a call for pricing thing
@markowen71645 жыл бұрын
But some time's you want to turn the tool post. To do something? M
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
i intend to increase my tool holders to compensate for the lack of versatility, i can tilt the tools a bit also , all about the rigidity and repeatability when inserting a different toolholder . Cheers Ade.
@markowen71645 жыл бұрын
@@ade63dug thanks for your reply. M
@markowen71645 жыл бұрын
Me too
@dave20thmay5 жыл бұрын
HI Ade, how will you change the angle of the tool? Not like you've got a Multifix tool post.
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
Lots more tool holders . Cheers Ade.
@dave20thmay5 жыл бұрын
@@ade63dug Looking forward to seeing how that goes. Cheers
@dave20thmay5 жыл бұрын
@@ade63dug Hi Ade, YT flagged up a video by ROBRENZ about a solid mount and now I see where you are going. His video of parting is something that I've never seen on a shop type lathe, real impressive.
@taranson30573 жыл бұрын
Where do you purchase your cast iron
@ade63dug3 жыл бұрын
College metals online normally. Cheers Ade.
@taranson30573 жыл бұрын
@@ade63dug thank you sir
@peterdams74315 жыл бұрын
Hmm nice Ade, I have a novice question. Perhaps someone would like to answer it. Why do you use cast iron? Tnx Peter
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
No correct answer to this , I guess it is wear resistant , tough, and does not warp and twist when machining as much as tough steels . Cheers Ade.
@peterdams74315 жыл бұрын
Jamie, thanks a lot for this clear explanation.
@jrgenneess7625 жыл бұрын
Can the toolpost not turn ??. Fine work
@ade63dug5 жыл бұрын
Hi jorgen , i want it to be solid and repeatable. i intend to make many more toolholders to improve the versatility , cheers Ade.
@jrgenneess7625 жыл бұрын
@@ade63dug The ekstra toolholders will improve versality ( 50 toolholders) so you do not mis the turning, cheeres Jorgen
@tramtoby5 жыл бұрын
If you cut a recess, the tool post can't turn......